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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 675528 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Pad

Fishers, IN

#429440 Mar 24, 2013
hojo wrote:
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When you speak of "phony history", Protestants have a "monopoly" on "making things up" as they go along,(both with Church History and Bible Interpretation) by "contriving and inventing" WHATEVER IT TAKES, to MAKE IT FIT (conveniently) into their anti-catholic agenda......For you "fundies", the "heretical" shoe always seems to fit,---and you are "born to wear it"!
AS long as you remain in the political framework of Christian sectarianism,you will find yourself in the middle of class warfare,which is so apparent in denominationalism.I know what you are in ,as we are all in the same battle of semantics and religious paraphenalia.

However, hojo,behind the scenes of all the religious jargon and slurs,and stereotyping,there is Christ,His Will, His Spirit, and His desire to see the Travail of His soul.And He is not doing it solely in your church,but in the whole of Christian churches,wherever they may be found.Martyrs are of all Christian groups in countries hostile to Christ.The message of the Gospel is changeing lives in all groups and affiliations.
guest

United States

#429441 Mar 24, 2013
hojo wrote:
Look it up yourself!!! I'm not going to "waste my time"
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jethro8 wrote:
JETHRO:you say this all the time because you know as well as i do that it is a waste of time looking for history that does not exist,you don't realize it but you help prove my point.the only history there is about the church is the phony history they wrote themselves and there is NOTHING to support it.
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hojo wrote:
When you speak of "phony history", Protestants have a "monopoly" on "making things up" as they go along,(both with Church History and Bible Interpretation) by "contriving and inventing" WHATEVER IT TAKES, to MAKE IT FIT (conveniently) into their anti-catholic agenda......For you "fundies", the "heretical" shoe always seems to fit,---and you are "born to wear it"!
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Clay

Garden City, MI

#429442 Mar 24, 2013
LTM wrote:
What does the Bible say about fear?"
Answer: The Bible mentions two specific types of fear. The first type is beneficial and is to be encouraged. The second type is a detriment and is to be overcome. The first type of fear is fear of the Lord. This type of fear does not necessarily mean to be afraid of something. Rather, it is a reverential awe of God; a reverence for His power and glory. However, it is also a proper respect for His wrath and anger. In other words, the fear of the Lord is a total acknowledgement of all that God is, which comes through knowing Him and His attributes.
Fear of the Lord brings with it many blessings and benefits. It is the beginning of wisdom and leads to good understanding (Psalm 111:10). Only fools despise wisdom and discipline (Proverbs 1:7). Furthermore, fear of the Lord leads to life, rest, peace, and contentment (Proverbs 19:23).“There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love”(1 John 4:18). No one is perfect, and God knows this. That is why He has liberally sprinkled encouragement against fear throughout the Bible. Beginning in the book of Genesis and continuing throughout the book of Revelation, God reminds us to “Fear not.”
For example, Isaiah 41:10 encourages us,“Do not fear, for I am with you; Do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God. I will strengthen you, surely I will help you, Surely I will uphold you with My righteous right hand.” Often you are worth more than many sparrows”(Matthew 10:31). Just these few verses cover many different types of fear. God tells us not to be afraid of being alone, of being too weak, of not being heard, and of lacking
In Psalm 56:11 the psalmist writes,“In God I trust; I will not be afraid. What can man do to me?” This is an awesome testimony to the power of trusting in God. Regardless of what happens, the psalmist will trust in God because he knows and understands the power of God. The key to overcoming fear, then, is total and complete trust in God. Trusting God is a refusal to give in to fear. It is a turning to God even in the darkest times and trusting Him to make things right. This trust comes from knowing God and knowing that He is good. As Job said when he was experiencing some of the most difficult trials recorded in the Bible,“Though he slay me, yet will I trust in him”(Job 13:15 NKJV).
Once we have learned to put our trust in God, we will no longer be afraid of the things that come against us. We will be like the psalmist who said with confidence “…let all who take refuge in you be glad; let them ever sing for joy. Spread your protection over them, that those who love your name may rejoice in you”(Psalm 5:11).
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Excellent.
Today is Palm Sunday and it was FEAR that caused the people to reject Jesus 2,000 yrs ago.
Today, its this same fear that causes people to reject His Church; the only visible singular body He started. You trash, scourge and condemn this Church out of fear for you being wrong.
guest

United States

#429443 Mar 24, 2013
if

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Satan

and after THAT

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arguing SEMANTICS!
Clay

Garden City, MI

#429444 Mar 24, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>AS long as you remain in the political framework of Christian sectarianism,you will find yourself in the middle of class warfare,which is so apparent in denominationalism.I know what you are in ,as we are all in the same battle of semantics and religious paraphenalia.
However, hojo,behind the scenes of all the religious jargon and slurs,and stereotyping,there is Christ,His Will, His Spirit, and His desire to see the Travail of His soul.And He is not doing it solely in your church,but in the whole of Christian churches,wherever they may be found.Martyrs are of all Christian groups in countries hostile to Christ.The message of the Gospel is changeing lives in all groups and affiliations.
No one will deny you the grace you experience with Christ when you pray and read the Bible.
I just don't think you're getting the fullness of the graces God has for us as beings on Earth. Particularly the Holy Sacraments given by the Apostles before they wrote down anything for the NT.
Not to mention, your preacher is preaching a slightly different Gospel than what was originally preached...or in some cases, an exact opposite of what was originally preached.

Still, God in His infinite love for you and all Protestants, gives you graces every time you pray. I don't think any Catholic on Earth would deny that fact.
So we find it odd, that many of you in turn, condemn us and deny God could give any Catholic graces.

I personally find it odd that we call you guys our 'brothers and sisters' and you in turn, falsely accuse us of worshiping Mary and thus, headed to Hell for it.
Is there any dialogue we can build on?
Clay

Garden City, MI

#429445 Mar 24, 2013
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Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#429446 Mar 24, 2013
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confrinting with the word wrote:
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So you deny the continuity of the Bible and the ability to cross reference it...
BIBLE DEFINED..BY....using excerpts from Websters dictionary.
All of the Bible is unique ..LIKE NO OTHER BOOK EVER WRITTEN
ALL 66 BOOKS. ARE interdependent and can be... AND ARE.. co-related.
It has
The state of being one; ONENESS.
IT has Unity that consist of a simple substance or existing being, as the soul;
It consists in a close junction of particles or parts, constituting a BOOK.. detached from other BOOKS AS THE MORAL STANDARD OF THE UNIVERSE.
A Unity ... undivided of itself, but separated BY HOLINESS AND RIGHTEOUSNESS holiness from all other ungodly entities.
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. It has Concord; conjunction; as a unity of proofs.
. Agreement; uniformity; .... unity of doctrine; ...unity of worship
unity of faith, as in GOD THE FATHER, SON AND HOLY GHOST.
In christian theology, oneness of sentiment, affection or behavior.
How good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity! Psa 133.
IT IS ONE...As... In mathematics,--- the abstract expression for any unit whatsoever. The number 1 is unity, when it is not applied to any particular object; but a unit, when it is so applied.
As In poetry,-- the principle by which a uniform tenor of story and propriety of representation is preserved.--
IT IS drama, OF WHICH there are three unities;
the unity of action,
that of time, and
that of place.
As In the epic poem, the great and almost only unity is that of action.
As In music, such a combination of parts as to constitute a whole, or a kind of symmetry of style and character.
As In law, the properties of a joint estate..
our INHERITANCE IS derived from its unity,
which is fourfold;
unity of interest,
unity of title,
unity of time, and
unity of possession;
in other words,
joint-tenants having one and the same interest,
accruing by one and the same conveyance,
commencing at the same time, and
held by one and the same undivided possession.
As IN Unity of faith,
It is an equal belief of the same truths of God, and
possession of the grace of faith
in like form and degree,
All the above from the first Chapter of Genesis to the closing words of Revelation ...
It is personal ..to every human being yet relevant to all of God's creation...
A. None of the verses you quoted from Rev have any parallel verses in Ge

B. None of the verses in Ge 1:1-5 have any parallel verses in Rev.

C. The "light" in Ge 3 is not Jesus...it was a created thing...a day. So, to say that the light was Jesus is to say that God created Jesus in Ge 1:3!!!!!!!

Word of advice...Forget what you were taught in Hollywood 101...learn how to study the Bible....
Clay

Garden City, MI

#429447 Mar 24, 2013
hojo wrote:
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When you speak of "phony history", Protestants have a "monopoly" on "making things up" as they go along,(both with Church History and Bible Interpretation) by "contriving and inventing" WHATEVER IT TAKES, to MAKE IT FIT (conveniently) into their anti-catholic agenda......For you "fundies", the "heretical" shoe always seems to fit,---and you are "born to wear it"!
They seem to accept the authority of the Catholic Church and Pope when the Bible was compiled. Then they snatch it out of the Church's hands in a rabid frenzy.
How's it going Hojo? Did you and your wife head to Ireland yet?

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#429448 Mar 24, 2013
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Free Mind wrote:
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Agreed. Better to change the meanings to fit your view of the universe.
That way, you are always assured of having all the answers.
I'm still curious. How do you know these "true meanings," when the Jews who wrote and harbored the OT for a couple thousand years didn't have a clue as to what it really meant?
I find that amazing.
And you know all this, even with known faulty translations, while correcting others are able to read the books in the original language.
What a mental giant this poster must be! While scholars worldwide continue this debate for the ages, an anonymous guru on Topix has it down pat - a sure thing!!!
Glad to know you agree...

Have a question. Where are you getting this info? Quote: I'm still curious. How do you know these "true meanings," when the Jews who wrote and harbored the OT for a couple thousand years didn't have a clue as to what it really meant?

Doesn't sound logical..if I write something...I know what it means!!!!!

Since: Nov 08

usa

#429449 Mar 24, 2013
hojo wrote:
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This is just more of your Protestant "editorializing" of TRUE Church History and "opinionizing" BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION".....the "fictitious beliefs that you are (FOREVER) "contriving and fabricating"!!!!!..... Jethro8, I am happy to see that you finally ADMITTED IT, which is something that I and we as Catholics, have known about "you" and other bible only "fundies"
on this forum. The "back pages" of your local newspaper is anxiously "awaiting" your "distorted OPINION" of Church History!!
you just proved what i posted earlier,you are a parrot you post the same thing over and over,never nothing new,when i post something that is strictly my opinion i say so,you know i do not belong to any religious group but you keep posting quote"your Protestant "editorializing" unquote,it's things like this that do make me question your intelligence.i post history that i find that can be verified by at least 1 to 2 different sources,something you can not do,you have to rely on hearsay,which is meaningless,you have only the word of a group of corrupt perverted,money/power hungry men.who are no more holier than i am.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#429450 Mar 24, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
Jesus denies his mother and siblings....
Matthew.... 12:47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
12:48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
12:49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
interesting,straight out of HOJO'S favorite book.
Free Mind

Saint Petersburg, FL

#429451 Mar 24, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>God is the CREATOR! So who Free Mind can Know Him as He really is? We will never as His creation fully understand His glory as to what He created,and for what reason He created all things,planets,peoples and so on.
I cannot limit God,because I am a speck of dust,or even yet a microbe,which has to be seen through the lens of a microscope.BUT, rest assure that even though I am nothing,He has still touched me and made my life with purpose.
Is He the God of all? Who are we to decide or state that He only is the God of one group or another? I cannot disregard all religions,but I can say with assureness that H E is wanting a relationship with as many as will C H O O S E to have that with HIM.
Yes,I believe that God has a blueprint for what sort of relationship He chooses to have with us.He does abhor sin,but not the sinner.He calls human beings in all religions to avoid evil and do G O O D. Even in religions where He is not recognized as a Supreme Being,God inspires human beings with a conscience to respect the life cycle of all around them.There are religious practitioners of many religions who are people of G o o d WILL!
God will decide their future,not me.With what I have been shown,and experienced I know that Jesus Christ is Lord,and that He is the only Mediator between God and Man. NOW, if you define M e r c y, and compassion,and ALL-Knowing,than you can find that God is not limited to one religious expression of faith,but that He is Consuming Fire to absorb that which is O F Him in all of humanity and their particular choices of belief.
EVEN an atheist who does not believe,but does good,and seeks the whole wellness of a human being regardless of their ethnicity or faith,is seen by God and God will judge that person as He sees fit,I cannot pass judgment on any person.To lump all who do not believe the way I do into a Christ less eternity is placing me in a GOD-role,and I being the microbe of nothing have no right to assume the fate or futre of any human being.
I leave that to Him who KNOWS all,and S E E S everything,as He is OMNI-present.On the other hand in the Scriptures we do see the salvation of the LORD,and it involves His Holy Son,and the sufferings and crucifixion of that SON.We have a choice to make,either to reject what His S O N ,indeed did to lay DOWN His life,or receive Him as a Savior.
The world and religious philosophers,political peoples and so on have placed the teachings of JESUS and the Kingdom of His Father in a B O X(Christianity),when frankly the message of the Scriptures is not that we all should be members of Christianity,but rather that we confess our sins to Christ,accept His salvation for our souls,and enter into the Kingdom of His Dear Father.The Holy Spirit will witness to our spirit,that Jesus is Lord,and our Savior.
It is the Enemy of our soul who worked doubly hard to make the Gospel message a religion of a particular political slant,and we all bought into it.
When you read the Bible without the political stage,you find JESUS!
That sounds like a powerful faith.
Free Mind

Saint Petersburg, FL

#429452 Mar 24, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>you just proved what i posted earlier,you are a parrot you post the same thing over and over,never nothing new,when i post something that is strictly my opinion i say so,you know i do not belong to any religious group but you keep posting quote"your Protestant "editorializing" unquote,it's things like this that do make me question your intelligence.i post history that i find that can be verified by at least 1 to 2 different sources,something you can not do,you have to rely on hearsay,which is meaningless,you have only the word of a group of corrupt perverted,money/power hungry men.who are no more holier than i am.
If you can't trust corrupt, perverted, power hungry men, who can you trust?
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#429453 Mar 24, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>AS long as you remain in the political framework of Christian sectarianism,you will find yourself in the middle of class warfare,which is so apparent in denominationalism.I know what you are in ,as we are all in the same battle of semantics and religious paraphenalia.
However, hojo,behind the scenes of all the religious jargon and slurs,and stereotyping,there is Christ,His Will, His Spirit, and His desire to see the Travail of His soul.And He is not doing it solely in your church,but in the whole of Christian churches,wherever they may be found.Martyrs are of all Christian groups in countries hostile to Christ.The message of the Gospel is changeing lives in all groups and affiliations.
Agree!!!! I,We as Catholics, believe that we are ALL eucumentical bothers and sisters in Christ!
Unfortunately---bible only Protestants "DON'T agree"!

Since: Nov 08

usa

#429454 Mar 24, 2013
truth wrote:
if you honest you will say..about what..stolen identity..much more..
if your going to reply to someone's post, you should add the persons name to whom your posting to,understand??

Since: Nov 08

usa

#429455 Mar 24, 2013
truth wrote:
we not care what you say because others is not better..you always point finger this or that..
my life stop 92 days when i come in this country..
your law is not my law i don't respect that any more..
by
tears
what do you mean your life stopped 92 days when you come in this country??
Free Mind

Saint Petersburg, FL

#429456 Mar 24, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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Glad to know you agree...
Have a question. Where are you getting this info? Quote: I'm still curious. How do you know these "true meanings," when the Jews who wrote and harbored the OT for a couple thousand years didn't have a clue as to what it really meant?
Doesn't sound logical..if I write something...I know what it means!!!!!
Of course you know what it means.

You have deciphered a secret code book that reveals all the answers to the greatest mysteries in the universe.

Of course, if we are to believe you, we must also believe that the actual authors of your secret code book did not have a clue as to what they wrote and what it meant.

Your god-vision sounds flaky to me -- dogma and ritual is somehow more important than the morals and ethics that Jesus actually taught -- but if you say so on an anonymous message board, how can anyone be skeptical?

So how do you exist knowing you have all that truth, and virtually no one gives a rat's behind?
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#429457 Mar 24, 2013
Clay wrote:
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They seem to accept the authority of the Catholic Church and Pope when the Bible was compiled. Then they snatch it out of the Church's hands in a rabid frenzy.
How's it going Hojo? Did you and your wife head to Ireland yet?
Thanks Clay!..... We (my wife and I) were at evening Mass last night at the Cathedral!.... Thought you might also be there, as I was looking for you!....Nothing set for Ireland yet!...Will keep in touch.......Prayer is the "only" remedy of hope, in order to change of hearts, minds and souls bible only Protestant "fundies" who live in the spiritual bondage of "darkness" as well as Protestant hate, hostility and vengeance toward Jesus Christ HIMSELF and His One True Church!
Free Mind

Saint Petersburg, FL

#429458 Mar 24, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Excellent.
Today is Palm Sunday and it was FEAR that caused the people to reject Jesus 2,000 yrs ago.
Today, its this same fear that causes people to reject His Church; the only visible singular body He started. You trash, scourge and condemn this Church out of fear for you being wrong.
No Clay, not fear. Reason, logic, and the Information Age.
LTM

Marathon, Canada

#429459 Mar 24, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Excellent.
Today is Palm Sunday and it was FEAR that caused the people to reject Jesus 2,000 yrs ago.
Today, its this same fear that causes people to reject His Church; the only visible singular body He started. You trash, scourge and condemn this Church out of fear for you being wrong.
I do not fear your church clay.

Fear is believing the devils lies.
I do not condemn the people, but the doctrine of the catholic church.
Christ's Church are people who love the Lord with all their heart soul, and minds , and has no other god (or goddess) before them.
God cares less what denomination a person belongs to.
God cares only about the heart and soul of man.
Jesus didn't die for a denomination He died for people.

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