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“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#428872 Mar 20, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
I am proud to be a natural man.
You are certainly a natural man when it comes to your health and your wealth, as I have pointed out.
When your health is on the line - you go to a discerning medical doctor, not a spiritualist.
When your wealth is on the line, you somehow re-interpret all of Jesus' teachings on money.
You haven't become a eunuch, even though you are now able with modern medicine. Typical of a natural man.
I'll also bet you do not take up serpents.
We are both natural men. Only I am happy to admit it. Don't worry, no boggy man is going to punish you for using common sense.
You wrote

You are certainly a natural man when it comes to your health and your wealth, as I have pointed out.
When your health is on the line - you go to a discerning medical doctor, not a spiritualist.

___

I do not go to a spiritualist...when my health is on the line ,,,I go to God...first.

I am not against doctors ...I believe they receive their wisdom from God.

But my first recourse (when I am sick )is to go to God.

2000 years ago -->Jesus bore the stripes upon His back for my healing..

OLD TESTAMENT

Isa 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and

-->with his stripes we are healed.

NEW TESTAMENT

1Pe_2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness:-->by whose stripes ye were healed.

I do not beg God to heal me (in Jesus name) I bring myself BEFORE GOD ....
(exercising my faith in what he did (2000 YEARS AGO) for all humanity )

I command my body (bring my body under subjection and COMMAND IT AND

expect it to respond to what GOD THE FATHER has already ACCOMPLISHED

THROUGH THE PASSION AND SUFFERINGS OF HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON THAT DAY...
.WHICH CULMINATED... WHEN JESUS SAID IT IS FINISHED... AND DIED ON CALVARY'S CROSS.

I BELIEVE GOD HAS DONE ALL HE IS GOING TO DO ...AND IT IS UP TO THE
BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN TO RECEIVE WHAT HE HAS DONE...

THERE REMAINETH NO MORE SACRIFICE..

FOR

SIN,

HEALING

AND ALL THE OTHER BENEFITS THAT WAS GIVEN TO MAN AS A GIFT THROUGH

CHRIST VICARIOUS SUFFERINGS AND DEATH UPON CALVARY'S CROSS.

___

WE MUST RESPOND AND RECEIVE GOD'S SACRIFICE AND ALL OF IT'S BENEFITS.

__

Exo_15:2 The LORD is my strength and song, and he is become my

--->SALVATION:<--- he is my God, and I will prepare him an habitation; my father's God, and I will exalt him.

SALVATION IS JESUS (yeshu&#770;&#8219;a &#770;h) IN HEBREW

H3444
&#1497;&#1513;&#14 73;&#1493;&#1468;& #1506;&#1492;

yesh-oo'-aw

(yeshu&#770;&#8219;a &#770;h)

Feminine passive participle of H3467;

something saved,

that is,(abstractly) deliverance;

hence aid,

victory,

prosperity:-

deliverance,

health, help (-ing),

salvation,

save, saving

(health),

welfare.

WHEN WE RECEIVE JESUS CHRIST AS OUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR ...WE

RECEIVE ALL THE ABOVE...

THIS IS WHAT DAVID MEANT WHEE HE WROTE...

Psa_68:19 Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits, even the God of our salvation. Selah.

AND AGAIN

Psa 116:12 What shall I render unto the LORD for all his benefits toward me?

Psa 116:13 I WILL TAKE THE CUP OF SALVATION, and call upon the name of the LORD.

I TAKE THE CUP OF SALVATION (yeshu&#770;&#8219;a &#770;h) AS DAVID DID.. YOU CAN TOO ...

IT YOUR OPTION , AS WELL..
Free Mind

Spring Hill, FL

#428873 Mar 20, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Hmmm...since you put it this way, I'm not sure I can be an un-natural man.
Do un-natural men have a supply of toothpicks on standby? I've heard that ligaments get stuck between the teeth.
:o)
When un-natural men were real un-natural men........

there were more self-made eunuchs on earth.

They just don't make un-natural men like they used to!!!
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#428874 Mar 20, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
Correct.
Will you answer my question now?
why? How will it impact your life?
Free Mind

Spring Hill, FL

#428875 Mar 20, 2013
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
Calling someone a clown...you're right..brutal.
You can call me a clown sweetheart. It won't bother me.
Nice spin.

No worries, I have no reason to insult clowns :o)
Clay

United States

#428876 Mar 20, 2013
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
You know what Clay...since you're catholic and you guys know all tell me what is living water Jesus refers to:
Woman at the well:
John 4:10
10 Jesus answered her,“If you knew the gift of God, and who it is that is saying to you,‘Give me a drink,’ you would have asked him, and he would have given you living water.”
Are you using this verse to cancel out Baptism with water?
To God, water is significant. It doesn't matter if Chuck in the year 2013 thinks water is stupid. Chuck doesn't get to decide the correct form of Baptism.
Christ (God made manifest) showed the world what He wanted done when He Himself was Baptized in the river with water.
God made water. Water is the most essential thing for all life on the planet. We can't survive without water. It brings forth and sustains life and can end life as God demonstrated when He used it to flood the Earth.
As early Church Father, Iraneus taught, water for Baptism is sacred; its Holy.
Its necessary for Baptism because its important to God. Jesus and the Apostles taught Baptism using water plain and simple. You can decipher Bible verses until you're blue in the face, it doesn't matter Chuck. What you now claim about Baptism was never taught.
Free Mind

Spring Hill, FL

#428877 Mar 20, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
You wrote
You are certainly a natural man when it comes to your health and your wealth, as I have pointed out.
When your health is on the line - you go to a discerning medical doctor, not a spiritualist.
___
I do not go to a spiritualist...when my health is on the line ,,,I go to God...first.
I am not against doctors ...I believe they receive their wisdom from God.
But my first recourse (when I am sick )is to go to God.
2000 years ago -->Jesus bore the stripes upon His back for my healing..
OLD TESTAMENT
Isa 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and
-->with his stripes we are healed.
NEW TESTAMENT
1Pe_2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness:-->by whose stripes ye were healed.
I do not beg God to heal me (in Jesus name) I bring myself BEFORE GOD ....
(exercising my faith in what he did (2000 YEARS AGO) for all humanity )
I command my body (bring my body under subjection and COMMAND IT AND
expect it to respond to what GOD THE FATHER has already ACCOMPLISHED
THROUGH THE PASSION AND SUFFERINGS OF HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON THAT DAY...
.WHICH CULMINATED... WHEN JESUS SAID IT IS FINISHED... AND DIED ON CALVARY'S CROSS.
I BELIEVE GOD HAS DONE ALL HE IS GOING TO DO ...AND IT IS UP TO THE
BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN TO RECEIVE WHAT HE HAS DONE...
THERE REMAINETH NO MORE SACRIFICE..
FOR
SIN,
HEALING
AND ALL THE OTHER BENEFITS THAT WAS GIVEN TO MAN AS A GIFT THROUGH
CHRIST VICARIOUS SUFFERINGS AND DEATH UPON CALVARY'S CROSS.
___
WE MUST RESPOND AND RECEIVE GOD'S SACRIFICE AND ALL OF IT'S BENEFITS.
__
Exo_15:2 The LORD is my strength and song, and he is become my
--->SALVATION:<--- he is my God, and I will prepare him an habitation; my father's God, and I will exalt him.
SALVATION IS JESUS (yeshu&#770;&#8219;a &#770;h) IN HEBREW
H3444
&#1497;&#1513;&#14 73;&#1493;&#1468;& #1506;&#1492;
yesh-oo'-aw
(yeshu&#770;&#8219;a &#770;h)
Feminine passive participle of H3467;
something saved,
that is,(abstractly) deliverance;
hence aid,
victory,
prosperity:-
deliverance,
health, help (-ing),
salvation,
save, saving
(health),
welfare.
WHEN WE RECEIVE JESUS CHRIST AS OUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR ...WE
RECEIVE ALL THE ABOVE...
THIS IS WHAT DAVID MEANT WHEE HE WROTE...
Psa_68:19 Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits, even the God of our salvation. Selah.
AND AGAIN
Psa 116:12 What shall I render unto the LORD for all his benefits toward me?
Psa 116:13 I WILL TAKE THE CUP OF SALVATION, and call upon the name of the LORD.
I TAKE THE CUP OF SALVATION (yeshu&#770;&#8219;a &#770;h) AS DAVID DID.. YOU CAN TOO ...
IT YOUR OPTION , AS WELL..
The spiritual one writes -- "when my health is on the line ,,,I go to God...first."

Some who are truly spiritual and go to God first, last, and exclusively.

Your spin is that God created natural men like medical science doctors -- so you don't have to follow Biblical spiritual cures by God alone.

That makes no sense. You go to medical science natural men or women because your natural intellect works when God doesn't.

Interesting how the human mind works to protect cherished beliefs.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#428878 Mar 20, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
You wrote
You are certainly a natural man when it comes to your health and your wealth, as I have pointed out.
When your health is on the line - you go to a discerning medical doctor, not a spiritualist.
___
I do not go to a spiritualist...when my health is on the line ,,,I go to God...first.
I am not against doctors ...I believe they receive their wisdom from God.
But my first recourse (when I am sick )is to go to God.
2000 years ago -->Jesus bore the stripes upon His back for my healing..
OLD TESTAMENT
Isa 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and
-->with his stripes we are healed.
NEW TESTAMENT
1Pe_2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness:-->by whose stripes ye were healed.
I do not beg God to heal me (in Jesus name) I bring myself BEFORE GOD ....
(exercising my faith in what he did (2000 YEARS AGO) for all humanity )
I command my body (bring my body under subjection and COMMAND IT AND
expect it to respond to what GOD THE FATHER has already ACCOMPLISHED
THROUGH THE PASSION AND SUFFERINGS OF HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON THAT DAY...
.WHICH CULMINATED... WHEN JESUS SAID IT IS FINISHED... AND DIED ON CALVARY'S CROSS.
I BELIEVE GOD HAS DONE ALL HE IS GOING TO DO ...AND IT IS UP TO THE
BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN TO RECEIVE WHAT HE HAS DONE...
THERE REMAINETH NO MORE SACRIFICE..
FOR
SIN,
HEALING
AND ALL THE OTHER BENEFITS THAT WAS GIVEN TO MAN AS A GIFT THROUGH
CHRIST VICARIOUS SUFFERINGS AND DEATH UPON CALVARY'S CROSS.
___
WE MUST RESPOND AND RECEIVE GOD'S SACRIFICE AND ALL OF IT'S BENEFITS.
__
Exo_15:2 The LORD is my strength and song, and he is become my
--->SALVATION:<--- he is my God, and I will prepare him an habitation; my father's God, and I will exalt him.

SALVATION IS JESUS... yeshu&#770;&#8219;a &#770;h ... yesh-oo'-aw IN HEBREW

H3444
&#1497;&#1513;&#14 73;&#1493;&#1468;& #1506;&#1492;
yesh-oo'-aw
(yeshu&#770;&#8219;a &#770;h)
Feminine passive participle of H3467;
something saved,
that is,(abstractly) deliverance;
hence aid,
victory,
prosperity:-
deliverance,
health, help (-ing),
salvation,
save, saving
(health),
welfare.
WHEN WE RECEIVE JESUS CHRIST AS OUR PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR ...WE
RECEIVE ALL THE ABOVE...
THIS IS WHAT DAVID MEANT WHEE HE WROTE...
Psa_68:19 Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits, even the God of our salvation. Selah.
AND AGAIN
Psa 116:12 What shall I render unto the LORD for all his benefits toward me?
Psa 116:13 I WILL TAKE THE CUP OF SALVATION, and call upon the name of the LORD.
I TAKE THE CUP OF SALVATION (yeshu&#770;&#8219;a &#770;h) AS DAVID DID.. YOU CAN TOO ...
IT YOUR OPTION , AS WELL..
~~~

TAKE NOTE THAT...JESUS IS SALVATION...

SALVATION ..IS.. JESUS ( yeshu&#770;&#8219;a &#770;h) IN HEBREW...

H3444
&#1497;&#1513;&#14 73;&#1493;&#1468;& #1506;&#1492;
yeshu&#770;&#8219;a &#770;h
yesh-oo'-aw
Feminine passive participle of H3467; something saved, that is,(abstractly) deliverance; hence aid, victory, prosperity:- deliverance, health, help (-ing), salvation, save, saving (health),
Clay

United States

#428879 Mar 20, 2013
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
Calling someone a clown...you're right..brutal.
You can call me a clown sweetheart. It won't bother me.
Are you gay?
A guy calling another guy 'sweetheart' is kinda gay.

The next generation of Born again evangelicals will allow you to be married in the churches, if you can hang on until then.
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#428880 Mar 20, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice spin.
No worries, I have no reason to insult clowns :o)
It is nice to see Uncle Free coming to Clay's rescue. Like you care that Clay is called a clown. whatever sweety...

this :o) makes me squirm a little. What are you saying?
lol
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#428881 Mar 20, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
To God, water is significant. It doesn't matter if Chuck in the year 2013 thinks water is stupid.
This is why you are a clown Clay. Stupid posts like this. When did I say water is stupid. I thought you were leaving..you lied. Go confess to your priest
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#428882 Mar 20, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you gay?
A guy calling another guy 'sweetheart' is kinda gay.
The next generation of Born again evangelicals will allow you to be married in the churches, if you can hang on until then.
What do you call a priest attracted to boys? Priests don't have to wait...already been doing it.
Free Mind

Spring Hill, FL

#428883 Mar 20, 2013
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
why? How will it impact your life?
This is just a message board.

Your not being honest with yourself will not impact my life.

But my question got you spinning. Sorry to make you dizzy :o)

Peace
Free Mind

Spring Hill, FL

#428884 Mar 20, 2013
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
It is nice to see Uncle Free coming to Clay's rescue. Like you care that Clay is called a clown. whatever sweety...
this :o) makes me squirm a little. What are you saying?
lol
Coming to Clay's rescue???

"Sweety?"

A happy face makes you "squirm?"

Someone needs a nap.

(And thanks again for the :o)
Free Mind

Spring Hill, FL

#428885 Mar 20, 2013
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you call a priest attracted to boys? Priests don't have to wait...already been doing it.
Lashing out off-topic = a temper tantrum!

Yes, someone definitely needs a nap

:o)
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#428886 Mar 20, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you using this verse to cancel out Baptism with water?
To God, water is significant. It doesn't matter if Chuck in the year 2013 thinks water is stupid. Chuck doesn't get to decide the correct form of Baptism.
Christ (God made manifest) showed the world what He wanted done when He Himself was Baptized in the river with water.
God made water. Water is the most essential thing for all life on the planet. We can't survive without water. It brings forth and sustains life and can end life as God demonstrated when He used it to flood the Earth.
As early Church Father, Iraneus taught, water for Baptism is sacred; its Holy.
Its necessary for Baptism because its important to God. Jesus and the Apostles taught Baptism using water plain and simple. You can decipher Bible verses until you're blue in the face, it doesn't matter Chuck. What you now claim about Baptism was never taught.
A bunch of words put together with no answer to my question. Again Clay my question:

Tell me what is living water Jesus refers to:
Woman at the well:
John 4:10
10 Jesus answered her,“If you knew the gift of God, and who it is that is saying to you,‘Give me a drink,’ you would have asked him, and he would have given you living water.”
Clay

United States

#428887 Mar 20, 2013
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you call a priest attracted to boys? Priests don't have to wait...already been doing it.
A Priest attracted to boys is a sick S.O.B and is likely going to hell.
A Priest attracted to men is a Homosexual. Only God can determine the roots of their attraction. Hopefully through prayer, they do not act on their sexual attraction.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#428888 Mar 20, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
The spiritual one writes -- "when my health is on the line ,,,I go to God...first."
Some who are truly spiritual and go to God first, last, and exclusively.
Your spin is that God created natural men like medical science doctors -- so you don't have to follow Biblical spiritual cures by God alone.
That makes no sense. You go to medical science natural men or women because your natural intellect works when God doesn't.
Interesting how the human mind works to protect cherished beliefs.
IF YOU GO TO GENESIS ...

YOU WILL FIND THAT GOD PROVIDED A TREE OF LIFE..

Gen_2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life ....

~~~

BECAUSE OF SIN
Gen_3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

Pro_3:18 She is a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her: and happy is every one that retaineth her.

Pro_11:30 The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that winneth souls is wise.

~~~
you wrote
Interesting how the human mind works to protect cherished beliefs.

My answer is
It is not mind over matter...It is a gift of God to all that receive it.

it works for me...I am 78 and while others deny it... It is my confident expectations......I don't even have a family doctor...

IT WORKS FOR ME..AND I ENJOY HEALTH BY IT...

IF I THOUGHT IT WAS GOD'S WILL FOR ME TO BE SICK ...

IT WOULD BE GOING AGAINST GOD'S WILL FOR ME TO GO TO A DOCTOR, would it not..AND THAT WOULD BE A SIN RIGHT?

If I though it glorified God for me to be sick...then I should ask him to make me sicker so I could glorify him more ...RIGHT

SICKNESS IS THE PERQUISITE OF DEATH...AND DEATH CAME BECAUSE OF SIN.

THE BIBLE SAYS

3Jn_1:2 Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.
Clay

United States

#428889 Mar 20, 2013
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
This is why you are a clown Clay. Stupid posts like this. When did I say water is stupid. I thought you were leaving..you lied. Go confess to your priest
You're right, I did say I was leaving the forum for a bit....meaning a few hrs, while you fundies figure out the correct teachings.
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#428890 Mar 20, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
This is just a message board.
Your not being honest with yourself will not impact my life.
But my question got you spinning. Sorry to make you dizzy :o)
Peace
Would it impact your life if I taught you proper grammar?

"Your not being honest"

Actually it's... "You're not being honest"...you're a clown like your friend Clay.

See Uncle Free, they sound alike but have different meanings.

Catholic education too eh sweety?
Clay

United States

#428891 Mar 20, 2013
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
A bunch of words put together with no answer to my question. Again Clay my question:
Tell me what is living water Jesus refers to:
Woman at the well:
John 4:10
10 Jesus answered her,“If you knew the gift of God, and who it is that is saying to you,‘Give me a drink,’ you would have asked him, and he would have given you living water.”
Its obvious Christ is talking about something more than the water she is about to drink.

so how does this cancel out using water for Baptism? Or downplaying the importance of using water?

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