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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 673354 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Orville

Vancouver, WA

#428478 Mar 18, 2013
It is my heartfelt hope we can join our differences ( our strengths), and unite as a single body of Messiah of Christ. Our Lord, Savior And friend. Amen
Free Mind

Saint Petersburg, FL

#428479 Mar 18, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Im wondering why the weekly bulletin at the Cathedral of Saint Paul had a picture of the new Pope with the title Pope Francis I.
I have not heard anything official. But Fr Rob's statement makes the most sense.
Rob appears correct.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/03/1...
7th Day Catholic Rocks

Poplar Bluff, MO

#428480 Mar 18, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
First you mean, pretend certain things exist prior to searching the scriptures.(sola scripture)
Then, convince yourself that the Church who gave us the scriptures are the 'Whore of Babylon'.
Then pretend the early Church fathers got it 'all wrong' when the Apostles verbally explained the faith to them. THEN, pretend Jesus Christ (although He never commanded a Bible be written for Christianity) waited until the printing press was established in the 15th century to bring His real Ministry to the world!
Then voila! You're are set and can open up your own storefront church and declare yourself a minister and authority on sacred scripture!
If you new Gods word you would know that it was for his chosen people up until the time it went out to the gentiles (world). No printing presses had not been iinvented at that time however they did have scribes who recorded what the prophets and the apostles was revealed by the Hoy Spirit.
It Is Written the Gopsel would go out unto all the world then the end would come.
Everything in it's time and order as intended.
Let It Be Written, Let It Be Said.......

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#428481 Mar 18, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
425
<quoted text>
You don't believe your own pope's teaching that clearly says Christ did not build a Catholic Church!!!!
From your NABre pope approved Bible:
this word (Greek ekklsia) occurs in the gospels only here and in Mt 18:17 (twice). There are several possibilities for an Aramaic original. Jesusí church means the community that he will gather and that, like a building, will have Peter as its solid foundation. That function of Peter consists in his being witness to Jesus as the Messiah, the Son of the living God....
I added: The Catholic Church is a denomination.....No denominations are named in Scripture....nor in the definition of ekklsia...
Plus further proof, from Scripture, that Christ found not the Catholic cult: In Rev, when He referred to the seven (7) churches, not one did He refer to as "Catholic". This was years after His ascension into Heaven...
The church that Jesus built and the church that 3,000 souls were added to the church on the day of Pentecost was and is the Church of Christ.
Clay

Garden City, MI

#428482 Mar 18, 2013
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
Clay, you keep saying this. Then why does the NT say that all christians are priests. The NT has no record of an infant being baptized...none.
The NT says that all Christians are Priests and so does the Catholic Church (check the Catechism).

The NT does not say infants were NOT Baptized either.
Read the writings of Church father Iraneaus who was born around 115 AD and was a product of Christian parents and not a convert (a cradle Catholic) He studied under Polycarp - who knew the Apostle John personally.
"Jesus came to save all through Himself. All I say is all, through Him are reborn unto God. Infants and children, youth and old men. Therefore He (Jesus) passed through every age. Becoming an infant for infants; sanctifying infants; a child for children; sanctifying children of that age."
"for we are lepers in sin, made clean by the sacred water and the invocation of the Lord from our old transgressions; being spiritually regenerated as newborn babies, even as the lord hath declared 'except that a man be born through water and the spirit he shalt not enter the Kingdom of Heaven"

Also

"Baptize first the children, if they can speak for themselves, let them do so. Otherwise let their parents or relatives speak for them"

Hippolytus ( Disciple of Iraneus)
Free Mind

Saint Petersburg, FL

#428483 Mar 18, 2013
7th Day Catholic Rocks wrote:
<quoted text>If you new Gods word you would know that it was for his chosen people up until the time it went out to the gentiles (world). No printing presses had not been iinvented at that time however they did have scribes who recorded what the prophets and the apostles was revealed by the Hoy Spirit.
It Is Written the Gopsel would go out unto all the world then the end would come.
Everything in it's time and order as intended.
Let It Be Written, Let It Be Said.......
It is also written that the end would come in some of the Apostles lifetimes.

This is reported in more than one Gospel. It may have played a role in the Jewish uprising.

The Gospel has been spread worldwide. Still no end.

Using the Bible, Falwell, Robinson, and many other famous ministers throughout the ages have predicted the end of times.

Imagine an Almanac in which the sun, moon, and tide charts were all wrong. You had to adjust everything after the fact in order for it to be "true."

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#428484 Mar 18, 2013
7th Day Catholic Rocks wrote:
<quoted text>If you new Gods word you would know that it was for his chosen people up until the time it went out to the gentiles (world). No printing presses had not been iinvented at that time however they did have scribes who recorded what the prophets and the apostles was revealed by the Hoy Spirit.
It Is Written the Gopsel would go out unto all the world then the end would come.
Everything in it's time and order as intended.
Let It Be Written, Let It Be Said.......
When Paul completed his letters he would send it to the churches to start the process of the letters being read and spread to the rest of the believers throughout the area.
Clay

Garden City, MI

#428485 Mar 18, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> Wayne Jackson knows the bible inside and out. The catholic church is the biggest deceiver of man than any other false religious institution in the world.
I only know of Wayne Jackson thru the links of his essays you guys post. And from those, I see he is a false teacher.
He knows the Bible 'inside and out' just like the devil.
The man has reversed what the Apostles taught- just like the devil. Nothing in this man's theology is on par with earlier understandings of Christianity. He simply declared himself a pope and authority on sacred scripture, and directed a conspiracy scenario on the ministry of Jesus Christ, and thousands have listened to him. His pride will be the cause of his fall.
The man can't seem to preach a theological point without bearing false witness against the Catholic Church. Therefore his opinions on sacred scripture cannot stand on its own merit. In short, he has to lie to convince you guys he 'knows the Bible inside and out'.
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#428486 Mar 18, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
The NT says that all Christians are Priests and so does the Catholic Church (check the Catechism).
The NT does not say infants were NOT Baptized either.
Read the writings of Church father Iraneaus who was born around 115 AD and was a product of Christian parents and not a convert (a cradle Catholic) He studied under Polycarp - who knew the Apostle John personally.
"Jesus came to save all through Himself. All I say is all, through Him are reborn unto God. Infants and children, youth and old men. Therefore He (Jesus) passed through every age. Becoming an infant for infants; sanctifying infants; a child for children; sanctifying children of that age."
"for we are lepers in sin, made clean by the sacred water and the invocation of the Lord from our old transgressions; being spiritually regenerated as newborn babies, even as the lord hath declared 'except that a man be born through water and the spirit he shalt not enter the Kingdom of Heaven"
Also
"Baptize first the children, if they can speak for themselves, let them do so. Otherwise let their parents or relatives speak for them"
Hippolytus ( Disciple of Iraneus)
Instead of posting crap, post me a verse in the NT as to where an infant was baptized. Thanks
Clay

Garden City, MI

#428487 Mar 18, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> The church that Jesus built and the church that 3,000 souls were added to the church on the day of Pentecost was and is the Church of Christ.
Church of Christ yes. The Catholic Church.

The word 'Catholic' is not a noun. Its an adjective describing the Church. Christ started one Church. Catholic meaning 'universal' in communion with the Apostles..
Church is CHURCH. There is no other one Christ started.
Your definition and that of Mr. Jacksons is foreign to all that is known about the Church started on Pentecost. You guys simply saw the book of Acts and decided you were the original Church, without any evidence what-so -ever.
Papacy

Germany

#428488 Mar 18, 2013
Protect the marriage as a union btw a man and a woman.
7th Day Catholic Rocks

Poplar Bluff, MO

#428489 Mar 18, 2013
When the Pope wears the red brim hat called a Saturno modled after the planet Saturn he is signifying he is ruler and chief over the 7 planetary gods of this world in which the weeks are named after and head of the Vatican. This represents Satan his self in which the RCC is the repository of every false doctine and pagan religion that has ever been and is known as Babylon the Great.

The days of the week by God where called First, second etc. seventh day. Man added the names which are pagan in orgin.
Clay

Garden City, MI

#428490 Mar 18, 2013
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
Instead of posting crap, post me a verse in the NT as to where an infant was baptized. Thanks
You're claiming no infants were Baptized per scripture. You're the sola scripture guy...show me where the Apostles said "do not Baptize infants until they are old enough".
You believe that, right? It should be easy then.

Guess what, Chuck. Your new and strange teaching on Baptism is about 150 yrs old if that .

Mine is at least 1850 yrs old per the writings of the Apostolic Fathers. You embrace some guys opinion on this teaching.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#428491 Mar 18, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
Funny how those who "have so much to teach" others about their view of the Bible -- are somehow confined to an anonymous Topix message board.
It must be difficult for folks like this poster -- to have the answers to the greatest mysteries in the entire universe -- yet their only outlet for this amazing truth is to argue with and insult others anonymously.
Of course, it beats being laughed at to their face.
At least a few folks who possess the same absolute truth have the guts to stand on a street corner holding a cross to spout their wisdom publicly.
But others do so anonymously because they do not posses the backbone of a grasshoppa.
LOL
Aww now Pookie. Did I hurt your litle feelings or something? Sorry but your response was WEAKER THAN WATER.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#428492 Mar 18, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> The church that Jesus built and the church that 3,000 souls were added to the church on the day of Pentecost was and is the Church of Christ.
Church of Christ yes. The Catholic Church.

The word 'Catholic' is not a noun. Its an adjective describing the Church. Christ started one Church. Catholic meaning 'universal' in communion with the Apostles..
Church is CHURCH. There is no other one Christ started.
Your definition and that of Mr. Jacksons is foreign to all that is known about the Church started on Pentecost. You guys simply saw the book of Acts and decided you were the original Church, without any evidence what-so -ever..... JETHRO:your both wrong, Jesus did not call his church catholic or any other name,he simply said "MY CHURCH",anything other than that is a false statement amplified even more so by the fact that there is no scripture where Jesus gives his church a name, Ignatius was the first person to call the rpc church catholic not god or Jesus,and it most definitely would not be the catholic church,it's sinful and corrupt,it cares only about itself, and not the words of god/Jesus and it's followers.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#428493 Mar 18, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
You wrote
THE WAY YOU GUYS CAN BUTCHER THE SCRIPTURES. sHEESH.
The Scriptures I POSTED were not butchered...they had nothing to do with
woman wearing APPAREL
They had to do with what the homosexual and effeminate will face in Judgment...
1Co_6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Bible says.... You have one of two choices
1.get deliverance OR
2. face the consequences.
GOD OFFERS FREE SALVATION... AND IT INCLUDES DELIVERANCE..
SALVATION DEFINED IN GREEK
H3444
&#1497;&#1513;&#14 73;&#1493;&#1468;& #1506;&#1492;
yeshu&#770;&#8219;a &#770;h
yesh-oo'-aw
Feminine passive participle of H3467; something saved, that is,(abstractly) deliverance; hence aid, victory, prosperity:- deliverance, health, help (-ing), salvation, save, saving (health), welfare.
ATTACKING THE MESSENGER DOES NOT NEGATE THE MESSAGE...
I DID NOT ORIGINATE THE SCRIPTURES VERSES...I ONLY REMINDED YOU OF WHAT THEY SAID.
1Pe_2:21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:
IF YOU WON'T WALK THE WALK THEN DON'T ATTEMPT TO TALK THE TALK....
Well I guess you told me off huh,LOL? Guess my post was above your head.
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#428494 Mar 18, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
You're claiming no infants were Baptized per scripture. You're the sola scripture guy...show me where the Apostles said "do not Baptize infants until they are old enough".
You believe that, right? It should be easy then.
Guess what, Chuck. Your new and strange teaching on Baptism is about 150 yrs old if that .
Mine is at least 1850 yrs old per the writings of the Apostolic Fathers. You embrace some guys opinion on this teaching.
Clay , you have said many times the catholic church was first and then the Bible. You have said the catholic church gave us the Bible. Then why not one record of an infant being baptized in an NT Book? Not one record Clay. You keep posting about 1500 years ago this and that...post the NT Book and verse Clay of an infant being baptized. Thanks
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#428495 Mar 18, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
The NT says that all Christians are Priests and so does the Catholic Church (check the Catechism).
The NT does not say infants were NOT Baptized either.
Read the writings of Church father Iraneaus who was born around 115 AD and was a product of Christian parents and not a convert (a cradle Catholic) He studied under Polycarp - who knew the Apostle John personally.
"Jesus came to save all through Himself. All I say is all, through Him are reborn unto God. Infants and children, youth and old men. Therefore He (Jesus) passed through every age. Becoming an infant for infants; sanctifying infants; a child for children; sanctifying children of that age."
"for we are lepers in sin, made clean by the sacred water and the invocation of the Lord from our old transgressions; being spiritually regenerated as newborn babies, even as the lord hath declared 'except that a man be born through water and the spirit he shalt not enter the Kingdom of Heaven"
Also
"Baptize first the children, if they can speak for themselves, let them do so. Otherwise let their parents or relatives speak for them"
Hippolytus ( Disciple of Iraneus)
Clay, there is no longer a need for catholic priests. All christians are priests. There are no longer NT priests, so why do you have them? To listen to you confess your sins?

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#428496 Mar 18, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
314
<quoted text>
Greek is not Greek!!!!
No need....I simply use Strong's Greek Lexicon that defines the Greek words, used at the time of Christ.
Here are the five main dialects of ancient Greek that have been found on inscriptions. They are divided based on geography, with regional subdivisions. Following the ancient dialects are the other, more modern Greek languages.
1. Attic-Ionic Greek (represented in literature)
Ionic
East Ionic
Central Ionic
West Ionic
Attic (the Greek spoken in Attica, which includes Athens).
2. Achaean
Arcadian
Cyprian
Pamphylian
3. Aeolic (represented in literature)
Lesbian
Thessalian
Boeotian
4. Doric (represented in literature)
Laconian-Heraclean
Messenian
Argolic
Megarian,
Corinthian
Rhodian
Theran-Melian
Coan-Calymnian
Cretan
5. Northwest Greek
Phocian
Locrian
Elean
6. Koine Greek
4th century B.C. to A.D. 4th century, the language of the New Testament and Septuagint, which spread during the Hellenistic era throughout the empire of Alexander the Great. Koine was based on the classical Attic Greek modified by Alexander's soldiers's dialects [Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics: An Exegetical Syntax of the New Testament, by Daniel B. Wallace; 1997]. The language was simplified and made more explicit to meet the needs of a universal language.
Koine is the feminine form of the Greek adjective for 'common'(koinos) to go with either the Greek noun dialektos or glossa 'dialect' or 'language'.
7. Byzantine
5th - 15th century A.D. The Greek of this period was influenced by the East with an influx of words from other languages that we call Byzantine Greek. Byzantine Greek was used administratively by the Byzantine Empire.
8. Modern Greek
15th Century A.D. to the present.
Ohhh. I'm surprised. You are familiar with Dr.Strongs work. Many people aren't. But be sure that if you use Dr. Strongs work that it is actually his work because there are some newer versions that claim to be by Dr. Strong but they are corrupted.
LTM

Marathon, Canada

#428497 Mar 18, 2013
BOB DYLAN LYRICS

Send "Slow Train" Ringtone to your Cell
"Slow Train"

Sometimes I feel so low-down and disgusted
Can't help but wonder what's happening to my companions
Are they lost or are they found, have they counted the cost it'll take to bring down
All their earthly principles they're gonna have to abandon ?
There's slow, slow train coming up around the bend.

I had a woman down in Alabama
She was a backwoods girl, but she sure was realistic
She said, Boy, without a doubt, have to quit your mess and straighten out
You could die down here, be just another accident statistic
There's slow, slow train coming up around the bend.

All that foreign oil controlling American soil
Look around you, it's just bound to make you embarrassed
Sheiks walking around like kings, wearing fancy jewels and nose rings
Deciding America's future from Amsterdam and to Paris
And there's slow, slow train coming up around the bend.

Man's ego is inflated, his laws are outdated, they don't apply no more
You can't rely no more to be standing around waiting
In the home of the brave, Jefferson turning over in his grave
Fools glorifying themselves, trying to manipulate Satan
And there's slow, slow train coming up around the bend.

Big-time negotiators, false healers and woman haters
Masters of the bluff and masters of the proposition
But the enemy I see wears a cloak of decency
All non-believers and men stealers talking in the name of religion
And there's slow, there's slow train coming up around the bend.

People starving and thirsting, grain elevators are bursting
Oh, you know it costs more to store the food than it do to give it
They say loose your inhibitions, follow your own ambitions
They talk about a life of brotherly love, show me someone who knows how to live it
There's slow, slow train coming up around the bend.

Well, my baby went to Illinois with some bad-talking boy she could destroy
A real suicide case, but there was nothing I could do to stop it
I don't care about economy, I don't care about astronomy
But it's sure do bother me to see my loved ones turning into puppets
There's slow, slow train coming up around the bend.

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