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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 681916 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#427267 Mar 13, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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NO MATTER WHAT THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS CLAIMED.. ABOUT PETER BEING
the first pope.
THEY DO NOT/CANNOT control the grace of GOD...
nor
THE GIFTS OF GOD..
WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE..more is said than done..
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What they CLAIM CANNOT be PROVEN/VALIDATED by the BIBLE...
Their own DYNASTY IN ROME ITALY ..PROVES NOTHING
BUT
THAT they are A CARNAL ...POWER HUNGRY.. EXCLUSIVE RELIGIOUS
ORGANIZATION THAT SELFISHLY CONSPIRES TO CONTROL THE GRACE OF GOD.
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THEIR CLAIM THAT that they are the only the ONE TRUE APOSTOLIC CHURCH..

with the ability to BAR ALL OTHERS FROM HEAVEN...

only proves that THEY are attempting at PLAYING GOD

Their doing so

MEANS

THAT THEY claim THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT to decide TO WHOM GOD'S

GRACE IS EXTENDED.. and whom GOD HAS REJECTED...

WHICH PRACTICE IS LUDICROUSNESS..

When the Bible says

Joh 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

They condemn and count all others as substandard .

They claim ...teach

that

All that do not subscribe to their conjecture are beneath their

exclusive arrogant feet.
Clay

Union, NJ

#427268 Mar 13, 2013
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Brilliant post, 4GVN!
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*IF* indeed the *evil popes* were spiritually elected - then the one *evil spirit* must have been involved.
JESUS SAID: "you know them by their fruit
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*IF* indeed the *evil popes* were prayerfully elected - SOMEBODY was PRAYING to the WRONG DUDE!
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*IF* indeed the *evil popes* were supernaturally elected - then the supernatural entity involved HAD TO BE evil.
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*IF* indeed the *evil popes* were ecclesiastically elected - the ecclesiastic members must have been evil, too.
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.... indeed the *evil popes* were were NOT and anomaly.
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INDEED! THE EVIL POPES DID NOT DEVIATE FROM WHAT IS STANDARD IN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC HIERARCHY.
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If indeed we had an evil pope, how come they didn't bring down the Church or change Church teachings?
You see, history might show a bad pope or two, and I wouldn't argue at it. Although for some reason their sins are enormously blown up by Ideologue such as yourself.
None of these men could ever alter Church dogma or doctrine to go against anything the Apostles taught.
Now, if there was an evil Pope- guided by the Devil, how come He didn't change the Eucharist or remove some books from the Bible?

Answer: the gates of Hell can not prevail against the Church.
So what could Satan do? Nothing. He had to settle for a disgruntled Priest named Luther. By doing that, Satan changed the Eucharist and removed Books from the Bible, among other deceptive theology that went against the Church.
Now look what happened. You guys are so far removed from the Apostolic Church, you don't realize it. There is virtually nothing you guys haven't changed about what the Apostles taught.
See, its started with one man and a couple lies. Now its blossomed into 45,000 with even more lies.
Each on of ya teach different then the next.

You don't believe me? Watch us Catholics disappear from this forum for a couple days, and you'll see you fundies cyber stabbing each other with scripture verses!
LTM

Marathon, Canada

#427269 Mar 13, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
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If God and Jesus are one and the same,.... then try reading the OT, but replace the word "God" with the word "Jesus."
Jesus wipes out entire cities.
Jesus instructs that innocent women and children be slaughtered or enslaved.
Jesus demands the foreskins of dead enemies as tribute.
Jesus loves you.
And if you check the bible you would find out many of the place that God destroyed, sacrafice their children to strange god's.
So they were not so innocent, woman gave their virgin daughter to be
Prositutes in the temples, etc. homosexuality was widely practised in the pagan temples, child sex abuse is not a new thing.
You should read the Bible on the enemies of God before you critizes the reasons, He does things.
God hates sin.
MICHAEL

Canada

#427270 Mar 13, 2013
hojo wrote:
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Your distorted comments are just a "continuation" of the same old Protestant "bible only" anti-catholic "propaganda" that you 4GVN are "so famous for"! You, my friend, have attained a "monopoly on (what you call)--"lies, dishonesty and ignorance" when it comes to your "bible only" distortion of the TRUTH of the Bible, 2000 years of TRUE Church History, and the writings, documents and authoritative history from the Early Church Fathers and the Apologistic authors--both Catholic and Protestant..... You obviously, are "still dialed into" James McCarthy and Ron Rhodes, which are two of the more "prominent" 21st century "heretical preachers" of Jesus Christs and His One (and only TRUE) Apostolic Catholic Church!! Heretics, like these two, "have come and gone" for over 2000 years--YET---Jesus Christ One True Catholic Church, has, is and will continue to LIVE ON!!!
If by some fluke you actually make it to heaven, how are you going to explain to God all the trash talking you did about the protestants who will also be in heaven?

God wants unity, equality and fairness of all. You fit none of those virtues. Sorry!



LTM

Marathon, Canada

#427271 Mar 13, 2013
hojo wrote:
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You were once a "supposed" Catholic and so why are you asking "stupid questions" that you already know the answer to????
Well why don't you answer his question hojo, instead of giving such a stupid answer.
You don't know yourself do you.
I don't thing anyone one does except maybe they just decided it was on a need to know bases. Or to cover up their evil plots,
MICHAEL

Canada

#427272 Mar 13, 2013
LTM wrote:
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And if you check the bible you would find out many of the place that God destroyed, sacrafice their children to strange god's.
So they were not so innocent, woman gave their virgin daughter to be
Prositutes in the temples, etc. homosexuality was widely practised in the pagan temples, child sex abuse is not a new thing.
You should read the Bible on the enemies of God before you critizes the reasons, He does things.
God hates sin.
What is the point in God creating the 10 commandments if God is not going to lead by example in following his own 6th commandment. Thou shalt not kill.

I don't see widespread death today among prostitutes, gays, sex abusers, by God, do you?

Its all baloney to scare you into fear by religious leaders. No ALL loving God would ever commit such autrocities.

These stories were created to get everyone to run to the nearest church/synagogue in fear to bolster the numbers.

Life is good for me, and whatever waits at the end of the line will be shared by every other human being that lived before me.

Clay

Union, NJ

#427273 Mar 13, 2013
LTM wrote:
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[NO CHURCH CALLS US INTO FELLOWSHIP WITH JESUS CHRIST...JESUS DOES..
1Co 1:9 God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.
NO CHURCH ...CAN KEEP US FROM FALLING....OR PRESENT US FAULTLESS TO THE HEAVENLY FATHER...IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT ...ONLY JESUS IS ABLE TO..
Jud 1:24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
Jud 1:25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.]
GREAT POST CONFRINTING, AMEN AMEN. THIS IS ABSOLUTE TRUTH.
How do you know that LTM?

A bit ironic you claim "no Church calls us into fellowship with Jesus Christ. Jesus does."

Yet, it was a Church that told you that was a Bible passage to begin with!!
It was a Church who gathered, compiled and labeled those books, 400 yrs after Christ was born, just so you arrogantly can use those words against her..
Interesting.
truth

Perth, Australia

#427274 Mar 13, 2013
nothing new under heaven
MICHAEL

Canada

#427275 Mar 13, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>have to be honest here,i'm not a big fan of the R.P.C.C. as we all know,but the smart move would be to elect o'malley,problem is other cardinals know about his no nonsense approach to settling problems within the church,if elected, sweeping changes will definately take place.
Good point!

If O'Malley or Dolan gets in then during the next several years they can install more american cardinals as the old ones die off, to tip the future voting away from europe.

Its all political! nothing to do with God.

off topic:

They better hurry up and elect a pope, the environmentalists are going to be screaming with so much heavy black smoke covering all of Italy. The pollution index must be near the top...."cough! cough!
LTM

Marathon, Canada

#427276 Mar 13, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
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If by some fluke you actually make it to heaven, how are you going to explain to God all the trash talking you did about the protestants who will also be in heaven?
God wants unity, equality and fairness of all. You fit none of those virtues. Sorry!
The truth is Michael, no one deserves Heaven. We are all sinners.
The bible says mans heart is evil, and you can see on this thread the truth in that.
That is why we needed a Savior. the sad part is people follow after a religious doctrine instead of Jesus.
The bible says when Jesus comes back will He find people of faith

Luke 18:1-8

King James Version (KJV)


18 And he spake a parable unto them to this end, that men ought always to pray, and not to faint;

2 Saying, There was in a city a judge, which feared not God, neither regarded man:

3 And there was a widow in that city; and she came unto him, saying, Avenge me of mine adversary.

4 And he would not for a while: but afterward he said within himself, Though I fear not God, nor regard man;

5 Yet because this widow troubleth me, I will avenge her, lest by her continual coming she weary me.

6 And the Lord said, Hear what the unjust judge saith.

7 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them?

8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
9 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:
LTM

Marathon, Canada

#427277 Mar 13, 2013
Luke 18:10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.

11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.

12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#427278 Mar 13, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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THEIR CLAIM THAT that they are the only the ONE TRUE APOSTOLIC CHURCH..
with the ability to BAR ALL OTHERS FROM HEAVEN...
only proves that THEY are attempting at PLAYING GOD
Their doing so
MEANS
THAT THEY claim THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT to decide TO WHOM GOD'S
GRACE IS EXTENDED.. and whom GOD HAS REJECTED...
WHICH PRACTICE IS LUDICROUSNESS..
NO ONE--has "ever said" that the Catholic Church has the ability to "bar anyone" from heaven. These "ridiculous, idiotic statements can "only come" from bible only" bigots like you. It is "editorizing,(self opinionated) judgemental and condemning Protestant "fundies" such as you, 4GVN, jethro8, justachristian and other bible only (Catholic bashers)--who continue to (deny) over 2000 years of PROVEN Church History and "defiantly and rebelliously repudiate" the TRUE INTERPRETATION of the Bible from the Early Church Fathers in 382,393, and 397---who "gave you fundies" the bible that you mis-interpret to your "OWN" demise and destruction! The TRUTH of Jesus Christs and HIS (One and only one) TRUE Apostolic Catholic Church, has is and will continue to remain as the "way, the TRUTH and the life!!!

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Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#427280 Mar 13, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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You don't even know the definition of "believe".....so you really cannot be expected to know much about anything else....
Is this the best you can do?

I guess it is, since you decided to post nothing else.

*sighs*

Since: Nov 08

usa

#427281 Mar 13, 2013
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The NT is not written simply to clarify the OT. We have to realize that the OT is not only history of the Jewish people, but much more.
The OT is rich with history, poetry, lifestyles and everyday struggles of the Jewish people, and - prophecy that Jesus would come from Jewish lineage and what to be on the lookout for in order to know who actually IS the Messiah.
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There are a few OT verses which point to Christ as Messiah, but, the verses don't tell us his name. They do tell us important information, though, and some of his titles.
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The following verse tells us that Messiah will be at war with God's adversary, and it's prophecy states that Satan will deliver a blow,(strike his heel) but that Christ will deliver a more permanent blow, the death stroke (crush your head):
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Genesis 3:16
And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel."
http://bible.cc/genesis/3-15.htm
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This verse states that he will rule his people:
Isaiah 9:
6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
http://bible.cc/isaiah/9-6.htm
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This one you may especially like:
Micah 5:
2 "But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me ONE WHO WILL be RULER over Israel, WHOSE ORIGINS are from of old, FROM ANCIENT TIMES."
http://bible.cc/micah/5-2.htm
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jesus does not have to fight satan,god just has to snap his fingers,and he's gone,he's done it many times before so why not do it now and stop this so called mighty battle before it starts. and if god knows all sees all then he is well aware of what is going to happen,so instead of letting it happen,just zap him with a lightning bolt and no final battle...IF this so called battle does take place i'd like to be there,watch it,maybe join in have some fun kicking perverted priest butt who will be on the side of satan for the sins they committed over the centuries,especially the early days,they have the blood of innocent men,women and children on their hands, just because they did not want to be part of the unholy pagan/christian church.and i do believe murder is a sin that is NOT forgiven,so satan will have a sizable army on his side,and if this theory is true i wouldn't mind jumping in and giving the little jew boy a hand,hojo will on satan side also along with anthony who is a false accuser and liar,andvour new good buddy stanley will be part of satans group.i say this because they think they are in the good graces of god yet, they talk to people with the tounge of satan.oxbow included catholic or not.
LTM

Marathon, Canada

#427282 Mar 13, 2013
Clay wrote:
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How do you know that LTM?
A bit ironic you claim "no Church calls us into fellowship with Jesus Christ. Jesus does."
Yet, it was a Church that told you that was a Bible passage to begin with!!
It was a Church who gathered, compiled and labeled those books, 400 yrs after Christ was born, just so you arrogantly can use those words against her..
Interesting.
We are called by God. not man or a denomination.
1Cor:1-26
For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called

1:26-31 God did not choose philosophers, nor orators, nor statesmen, nor men of wealth, and power, and interest in the world, to publish the gospel of grace and peace. He best judges what men and what measures serve the purposes of his glory. Though not many noble are usually called by Divine grace, there have been some such in every age, who have not been ashamed of the gospel of Christ; and persons of every rank stand in need of pardoning grace. Often, a humble Christian, though poor as to this world, has more true knowledge of the gospel, than those who have made the letter of Scripture the study of their lives, but who have studied it rather as the witness of men, than as the word of God. And even young children have gained such knowledge of Divine truth as to silence infidels. The reason is, they are taught of God; the design is, that no flesh should glory in his presence. That distinction, in which alone they might glory, was not of themselves. It was by the sovereign choice and regenerating grace of God, that they were in Jesus Christ by faith. He is made of God to us wisdom, righteousness, sanctification, and redemption; all we need, or can desire. And he is made wisdom to us, that by his word and Spirit, and from his fulness and treasures of wisdom and knowledge, we may receive all that will make us wise unto salvation, and fit for every service to which we are called. We

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Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#427283 Mar 13, 2013
guest wrote:
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I rejected all that useless information so I threw it away. It's not even worth remembering, so it certainly is not worth discussing.
Throwing away the teachings of Jesus.

We'll agree to disagree.

Thanks for responding.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#427284 Mar 13, 2013
guest wrote:
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MY *self* is intact.
These four words are the only things salvageable from your post that has any meaning.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#427285 Mar 13, 2013
Clay wrote:
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How do you know that LTM?
A bit ironic you claim "no Church calls us into fellowship with Jesus Christ. Jesus does."
Yet, it was a Church that told you that was a Bible passage to begin with!!
It was a Church who gathered, compiled and labeled those books, 400 yrs after Christ was born, just so you arrogantly can use those words against her..
Interesting.
The SPIRITUAL ground is level at the foot of the cross...All must come and establish his own personal relationship with God through Jesus Christ God's only begotten Son...

Christ is the door to the Sheep Fold and faith unlocks the door...

Jesus said

Joh_10:7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.

Joh_10:9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

He also said...

Joh_14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
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Only Jesus is the door
Any one that claims to be/they are... the door is a thief and a robber

Joh_10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you,--> He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. <--

There are not BIG RAMS and little ewes in his flock of sheep..

NO CHURCH, DENOMINATION, OR RELIGIOUS GROUP... holds the franchise

monopoly or exclusive rights to the GRACE of God.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#427286 Mar 13, 2013
Stan-an-Ollie wrote:
<quoted text>Stanley seems to think (and he usually things right) that you are wrong 'that there are many people that you know who are gay'...is just a line of generalities which means a line of bullschidt.
Heterosexuals know very few Queers and avoid their cliques like the plague. If you were to ask ALL non Queers in here if they partook of Queers companies and public esstablishments, you would get a resounding NO.
Remember the words of Our Lord Jesus Christ.."if a man layeth with a man, it would be better if that man tied a millstone around his neck and cast himself into the sea".
I agree with Stanley on this one.
and what does jesus think of man laying with boys as he would a woman? samething or what? quote from you "Heterosexuals know very few Queers and avoid their cliques like the plague." you probably know more gay people than you realize,neighbors,people you work with,or met and chatted with in a bar and had no clue they were gay. you avoid their cliques like the plauge,does this mean you don't watch the ellen degeneres show? i bet gowing up you watched and thought rock hudson was a good actor,he was gay,tab hunter was gay. so your claim that hetero people know very few gays is a rediculous statement,but i would expect that coming from you. you are clueless.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#427287 Mar 13, 2013
hojo wrote:
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The only "evil" here, is on this forum, is the "same old" corrupted trash comments, that come "out of the mouths" of (bigoted --"bible only" anti-catholic heretics who spread their "editorialized "relative truth" AGAINST Jesus' One True Church,--- deceiving "themselves" as they continue, in their "failed" attempts to "deceive others.
The TRUTH of the TRUE GOSPEL of Jesus Christ and His ONE and ONLY biblcially and historicallY PROVEN One True Catholic Church, has "survived the "gates of hell" and LIVED ON===for over 2000 years (DESPITE) people like you,-and will continue to "LIVE ON"!!
hojo:"historicallY" PROVEN One True Catholic Church" JETHRO:show us the history,what book/passage doesit state that jesus considers the catholic church his church??? and why is it taking so long to pick a pope? if the church is gods true church you would think he would of told them by now who the next pope is going to be,again this proves you are wrong,the church means nothing to god other wise you wouldn't need all these men/cardinals taking a vote to elect a new president of the worlds richest conglomerate.

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