Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

Jul 10, 2007 Read more: CBC News 583,197
The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Read more
Dan

Omaha, NE

#426497 Mar 8, 2013
Chuck wrote:
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Are you saying that salvation does not start when a catholic infant is baptized?
Baptism is salvific.

It's required to enter Heaven.

Die without it and you run the risk of not gaining Heaven. That's why Christ said it was necessary.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#426498 Mar 8, 2013
marge wrote:
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Then why did Peter say this?
68Simon Peter answered him,“Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. 69We believe and know that you are the Holy One of God.”
He didn't say it so we would blow off the rest of John 6 as you do.

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#426499 Mar 8, 2013
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Dan wrote:
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"I renewed my Baptismal vows at Confirmation and received the Grace of the Holy Spirit there as well."
Miss that?
At the age of three months, you were mature enough to declare your baptismal vows, which you later "renewed"????!!!! That is as believable as the belief that pigs fly!!!!!

Why did you need to renew them??? Were they wore out????!!!!
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#426500 Mar 8, 2013
Clay wrote:
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?? None of us were given salvation...yet.
Our parents did what Christ wanted them to do, by bringing their new child to Him in Baptism. Later on, that Catholic child will have the opportunity to put his own stamp on what his parents did when he/she receives the Sacrament of Confirmation at an age of maturity.
- I thought you were Catholic once?
- its not a good idea to tamper with Baptism or attempt to prevent new parents from bringing forth their child to Jesus. There is something evil about what you're doing. If you're worried the child will not be properly 'saved', then relax.
He'll have an opportunity to reaffirm His infant Baptism at his Confirmation like I stated above.
Clay said: its not a good idea to tamper with Baptism. There is something evil about what you're doing.

**You truly have some of the most idiotic posts on this forum.
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#426501 Mar 8, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Baptism is salvific.
It's required to enter Heaven.
Die without it and you run the risk of not gaining Heaven. That's why Christ said it was necessary.
Uncle Dan

did you start your salvation when you were baptized at 3 months old?
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#426502 Mar 8, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Baptism is salvific.
It's required to enter Heaven.
Die without it and you run the risk of not gaining Heaven. That's why Christ said it was necessary.
Was baptized Uncle Dan but it had nothing to do with my parents.

Necessary...who was ever condemned for not being baptized?

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#426503 Mar 8, 2013
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Dan wrote:
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Nonsense.
Clerical celibacy isn't addressed one way or the other in scripture. Not supported nor denounced.
Neither is clerical garb. I suppose you don't like clerical garb.
And when Jesus was come into Peter's house, he saw his wife's mother laid, and sick of a fever.

Since Peter was your supposed first pope, and was married, to teach celibacy for your clergy is nothing but absurdity....not based on Scripture....typical of Catholics...
Dan

Omaha, NE

#426504 Mar 8, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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At the age of three months, you were mature enough to declare your baptismal vows, which you later "renewed"????!!!! That is as believable as the belief that pigs fly!!!!!
Why did you need to renew them??? Were they wore out????!!!!
No, as I stated I was not required to perform an act to anyone's satisfaction prior to being baptized.

I reaffirmed the baptismal vows made by my parents and godparents at confirmation.

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#426505 Mar 8, 2013
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Dan wrote:
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""But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name"..
I received Him at Baptism. Just like the passage says.
Thanks
At three months old, you received Him????

apodechomai: to take fully, i.e. welcome (persons), approve (things):--accept, receive (gladly).

You are an imbecile!!!!!
Dan

Omaha, NE

#426506 Mar 8, 2013
Chuck wrote:
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Was baptized Uncle Dan but it had nothing to do with my parents.
Necessary...who was ever condemned for not being baptized?
Um, Christ taught the necessity of Baptism.

Jesus Christ, that is. In the Bible. Many times. He commanded the Apostles to do it.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#426507 Mar 8, 2013
Chuck wrote:
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Uncle Dan
did you start your salvation when you were baptized at 3 months old?
What does "start your salvation" mean? I don't bring about my own salvation.

Can you clarify?
Dan

Omaha, NE

#426508 Mar 8, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
477
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At three months old, you received Him????
apodechomai: to take fully, i.e. welcome (persons), approve (things):--accept, receive (gladly).
You are an imbecile!!!!!
Yes, I received Him through Baptism.

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#426509 Mar 8, 2013
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Chuck wrote:
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Ox...didn't you hear? It's because of the faith of his parents. Dan didn't have to believe.
Ah!!! He received and believed Him...by proxy!!!! Am familiar with that teaching.....and it is not based on Scripture...but to Catholics...it don't matter...da pope said it...and that seals it...

Since: Nov 08

usa

#426510 Mar 8, 2013
hojo wrote:
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Matthew 16 (regarding Jesus Christs One True Church) and John6 regarding Our Lords TRUE Body and Blood in the Eucharist "doesn't contradict ANY of the verses you listed----it only confirms, supports and compliments those verses because every thing that you have quoted, has,(for over 2000 years),is and will continue to be manifested (in and through) Jesus Christs One (and only TRUE) Apostolic Catholic Church (the Bride of Christ). It is the same message in both my Protestant bible as well as my Catholic Bible! Unfortunately, for you, the TRUTH has "escaped your anti-catholic mind and your "editorializing bible only (opinionated heresy) has "corrupted and confused your heart and soul! No surprise here coming from Protestant "fundies" who continue to live in the "same old distorted (500) year Reformation "bondage" of "relative truth" Christianity!
Jesus Christs One (and only TRUE) Apostolic Catholic Church jthro:you keep saying this and never show any proof jesus called his church catholic,wh don't you give it up,you don't have a holy leg to stand on.
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#426511 Mar 8, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Um, Christ taught the necessity of Baptism.
Jesus Christ, that is. In the Bible. Many times. He commanded the Apostles to do it.
Where does scripture say we are condemned if we aren't baptized?
Dan

Omaha, NE

#426512 Mar 8, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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Ah!!! He received and believed Him...by proxy!!!! Am familiar with that teaching.....and it is not based on Scripture...but to Catholics...it don't matter...da pope said it...and that seals it...
Christ taught clearly that Baptism was required, he commanded the Apostles to do it and He placed NO age restriction upon it whatsoever.

Da protestant says He did, and that seals it, despite the fact that the Bible says otherwise.
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#426513 Mar 8, 2013
Dan wrote:
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What does "start your salvation" mean? I don't bring about my own salvation.
Can you clarify?
Were you given salvation? I know you believe you can lose it but at baptism is that the start of it?

“let's do this thang!”

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#426514 Mar 8, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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~~~
YOU WROTE
in Matthew 16:21 regarding His One True Church (which we all (for over 2000 years) know is One Universal-Catholic.
NONE OF THE 26 TRANSLATIONS OF THE BIBLE.... THAT I HAVE ...SAY, read
ROMAN CATHOLIC OR UNIVERSAL CHURCH IN Matthew 16:21
YOURS MUST BE A PRIVATE INTERPRETATION...
Even the DRB TRANSLATION does not.
it says..
Mat 16:17 And Jesus answering said to him: Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona: because flesh and blood hath not revealed it to thee, but my Father who is in heaven.
Mat 16:18 And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Mat 16:19 And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.
Mat 16:20 Then he commanded his disciples, that they should tell no one that he was Jesus the Christ.
~~~~~~~~~~
I guess If I follow the trend of your interpretation of the former scriptures verses....
then Matthew 16:20 should read
Mat 16:20 Then he commanded his disciples, that they should tell no one that .... Peter is the pope.
If you are going to stretch the WORD OF GOD... to fit your imaginations
there is no limit ...to where you can run with it...Right?
~~~
THE FACT REMAINS THAT JESUS NEVER SAID
PETER WAS TO BE THE POPE,
NOR DID HE SAY
PETER SHOULD START THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.
IT JUST AINT IN THERE...NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU WANT IT .. TOO.
i guess if these fascist roman empire remnants don't care if their priests perv on their kids and then their popesicle covers it up, they're not gonna give a rats ass what Jesus did or didn't say:-(

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#426515 Mar 8, 2013
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Dan wrote:
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Correct.
I did not have to perform an act to anyone's satisfaction to receive Christ in baptism. My parents presented me to the Church so I could receive Christ in Baptism, as Christ taught it was required for salvation. What knaves my parents were, huh?
I renewed my baptismal vows at Confirmation.
I do not find Scripture that says: Be baptized and be saved...

I do not find Scripture that says: Be baptized and receive Christ..

I do not find scripture that says: Your parents can present you to the church so you can receive Christ.

Can you help me????

“let's do this thang!”

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#426516 Mar 8, 2013
hojo wrote:
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Why don't YOU believe all of the Gospel, especially the TRUE SPOKEN WORDS of Jesus HIMSELF in Matthew 16:21 regarding His One True Church (which we all (for over 2000 years) know is One Universal-Catholic.
What about the TRUE SPOKEN WORDS of Jesus in John 6:47-59 regarding the Eucharist "This IS my TRUE Body and TRUE Blood!
Since you "refuse to believe the SPOKEN WORDS OF Jesus in the Gospel of Matthew and John, then please tell us what other Gospel are you following and believing in? Oh-Yes--we just needed to be reminded that it is the "gospel according to Confrinting"!!
i have and could explain exactly what Jesus was saying in Jn 6 and it would blow the mind of an objective & interested person, but i'm not gonna cast my pearls before romans, unless you contact me through private message:)

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