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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 603254 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Dan

Omaha, NE

#426481 Mar 8, 2013
Chuck wrote:
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Ox...didn't you hear? It's because of the faith of his parents. Dan didn't have to believe.
Correct.

I did not have to perform an act to anyone's satisfaction to receive Christ in baptism. My parents presented me to the Church so I could receive Christ in Baptism, as Christ taught it was required for salvation. What knaves my parents were, huh?

I renewed my baptismal vows at Confirmation.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#426482 Mar 8, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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I have given you the word...Ir you don't like it that is your fort
I just don't believe that one should confine the flesh of JESUS to a man made wafer..
and His precious blood to a bit of wine, while ignoring His word and inventing your own..
1Sa_15:22 And Samuel said,
Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices,
as in obeying the voice of the LORD?
Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice,
and to hearken than the fat of rams.
Your beliefs aside, Christ told us specifically and, like, a half-dozen times that it IS His body and blood present in the bread and wine.

You'd happily confine Christ to a book, yet deny what He said about His presence in the Eucharist. You're an oddball, GIF.

Clay

United States

#426483 Mar 8, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
I have given you the word...Ir you don't like it that is your fort
I just don't believe that one should confine the flesh of JESUS to a man made wafer..
and His precious blood to a bit of wine, while ignoring His word and inventing your own..
1Sa_15:22 And Samuel said,
Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices,
as in obeying the voice of the LORD?
Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice,
and to hearken than the fat of rams.
You've given me your interpretation of the word. I can't accept it as truth because its not in line with what the first Christians understood. The Bible can be looked at many different ways, the ones who got it correct would be the ones who are most similar to the Disciples of the Apostles, Ignatius, Clement and Polycarp.... The letters in the NT were already revealed once before.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#426484 Mar 8, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
412
<quoted text>
You have a problem that is not curable!!!!
From your NABre pope approved Bible...Jesus’ church means the community that he will gather and that, like a building, will have Peter as its solid foundation.
Ain't nothin' said bout the Catlicks....
My problem "was cured", when I left my Protestant "bible only" Church after 35 years of "bible alone,(half-truth, half-heresy) Christianity in which the Church members "split and divided" on four different occasions because they couldn't agree on the TRUE interpretation of the Bible verses and the TRUE meaning of the Sacred Scriptures debating and arguing over (abortion, the eucharist, baptism, women ministers, gay marriage, homosexuality (moral or immoral) euthenasia, emboyonic stem cell research, homosexual ministers, ect. ect. Each individual and each small group of Christians "had an opinion, each claimed they had the truth, and (in fact) each person and each group --"had and was" their own Pope. You Ox, are just an extension of this "bible only" chaos, confusion, and editorializing (personal opinion) "riffraff" of Protestant contradiction, that has expanded to over 42,000+ inconsistent and conflicting denominations.....Jesus Christ intitiated, established and formed ONE (and only ONE TRUE (authoritative) Apostolic Church. It was Universal and it was, has and always will be Catholic, despite your (editorial personal opinion). Act 2 "clearly" defines Our Lords 1st Church in Antioch and those to follow (recorded in Pauls letters to the Churches in Philippi, Corinth, Thessalonica, Colossius, Ephesis, Galatia and on and on. They were ALL lead by the Apostles, who were bishops, priests, elder and deacons (again Acts 2)--Paul confirms ALL of this in I Tim 3:15 when he calls "The Church--(not the bible alone) as the Pillar, Pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH!......The fact is, that you, Ox, have NOTHING to confirm or verify ANYTHING you believe regarding (what the Church really is). except for (refusing to believe) the PROVEN HISTORICAL and BIBLICAL TRUTH of Jesus Christs (biblically and historical verifiable) One True Apostolic Catholic Church....... THEN. by your own(unbiblical and unhistorical denial), the only thing left for you is to editoricalized and "throw your" PERSONAL OPINION into the dicussion, which is ALL "laced" and "poluted" with anti-catholic distortion, and heresy. Jesus gave us the TRUTH in and through HIS ONE TRUE CATHOLIC CHURCH over 2000 years ago, and you and your other 42,000 other "bible only" editorialized (personal opinion) WILL NEVER change the TRUTH!!
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#426485 Mar 8, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
Correct.
I did not have to perform an act to anyone's satisfaction to receive Christ in baptism. My parents presented me to the Church so I could receive Christ in Baptism, as Christ taught it was required for salvation. What knaves my parents were, huh?
I renewed my baptismal vows at Confirmation.
Faith is given by God for salvation but you received salvation from the faith of your parents....interesting.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#426486 Mar 8, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
437 408
<quoted text>
I am still waiting......
.
You may be still waiting--but you still are refusing to listen or to open your eyes to the TRUTH. "Try unplugging your ears and take the "blinders off of your (bible only) eyes" and discover the TRUE biblical and historical TRUTH from over 2000 years (and today) of Salvation and TRUTH in Jesus Christ, in and through HIS One (and ONLY one) TRUE Apostolic Catholic Church--which is the FULLNESS of the FAITH and the FULLNESS of the TRUTH; Paul RE-confirms in I Tim 3:15, when he calls "The Church (not the bible alone) is the Pillar, pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH!!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#426487 Mar 8, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
Your beliefs aside, Christ told us specifically and, like, a half-dozen times that it IS His body and blood present in the bread and wine.
You'd happily confine Christ to a book, yet deny what He said about His presence in the Eucharist. You're an oddball, GIF.
~~~

So I am an odd ball,
because I believe in the word of God...
and I believe a person should obey the gospel...all of it...

Do you believe all of the Gospel?

Or do you believe another gospel?

~~~

Rom 10:16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?

Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Rom 10:18 But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.

I believe in the verbal inspiration of the Bible..

I reject the fables of the Roman Catholic Church ...THAT PAYS

ATTENTION TO PARTS OF THE GOSPEL BUT REJECTED MOST OF IT.
marge

Ames, IA

#426488 Mar 8, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
Your beliefs aside, Christ told us specifically and, like, a half-dozen times that it IS His body and blood present in the bread and wine.
You'd happily confine Christ to a book, yet deny what He said about His presence in the Eucharist. You're an oddball, GIF.
Then why did Peter say this?

68Simon Peter answered him,“Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. 69We believe and know that you are the Holy One of God.”
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#426489 Mar 8, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~

Do you believe all of the Gospel?
Or do you believe another gospel?
Why don't YOU believe all of the Gospel, especially the TRUE SPOKEN WORDS of Jesus HIMSELF in Matthew 16:21 regarding His One True Church (which we all (for over 2000 years) know is One Universal-Catholic.

What about the TRUE SPOKEN WORDS of Jesus in John 6:47-59 regarding the Eucharist "This IS my TRUE Body and TRUE Blood!

Since you "refuse to believe the SPOKEN WORDS OF Jesus in the Gospel of Matthew and John, then please tell us what other Gospel are you following and believing in? Oh-Yes--we just needed to be reminded that it is the "gospel according to Confrinting"!!
marge

Ames, IA

#426490 Mar 8, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Why don't YOU believe all of the Gospel, especially the TRUE SPOKEN WORDS of Jesus HIMSELF in Matthew 16:21 regarding His One True Church (which we all (for over 2000 years) know is One Universal-Catholic.
What about the TRUE SPOKEN WORDS of Jesus in John 6:47-59 regarding the Eucharist "This IS my TRUE Body and TRUE Blood!
Since you "refuse to believe the SPOKEN WORDS OF Jesus in the Gospel of Matthew and John, then please tell us what other Gospel are you following and believing in? Oh-Yes--we just needed to be reminded that it is the "gospel according to Confrinting"!!
The disciples didn't eat His body and blood Hojo His body was broken and His blood shed on the cross.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#426491 Mar 8, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Why don't YOU believe all of the Gospel, especially the TRUE SPOKEN WORDS of Jesus HIMSELF in Matthew 16:21 regarding His One True Church (which we all (for over 2000 years) know is One Universal-Catholic.
What about the TRUE SPOKEN WORDS of Jesus in John 6:47-59 regarding the Eucharist "This IS my TRUE Body and TRUE Blood!
Since you "refuse to believe the SPOKEN WORDS OF Jesus in the Gospel of Matthew and John, then please tell us what other Gospel are you following and believing in? Oh-Yes--we just needed to be reminded that it is the "gospel according to Confrinting"!!
~~~

YOU WROTE

in Matthew 16:21 regarding His One True Church (which we all (for over 2000 years) know is One Universal-Catholic.

NONE OF THE 26 TRANSLATIONS OF THE BIBLE.... THAT I HAVE ...SAY, read

ROMAN CATHOLIC OR UNIVERSAL CHURCH IN Matthew 16:21

YOURS MUST BE A PRIVATE INTERPRETATION...

Even the DRB TRANSLATION does not.

it says..

Mat 16:17 And Jesus answering said to him: Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona: because flesh and blood hath not revealed it to thee, but my Father who is in heaven.
Mat 16:18 And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Mat 16:19 And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.

Mat 16:20 Then he commanded his disciples, that they should tell no one that he was Jesus the Christ.

~~~~~~~~~~

I guess If I follow the trend of your interpretation of the former scriptures verses....

then Matthew 16:20 should read

Mat 16:20 Then he commanded his disciples, that they should tell no one that .... Peter is the pope.


If you are going to stretch the WORD OF GOD... to fit your imaginations

there is no limit ...to where you can run with it...Right?

~~~

THE FACT REMAINS THAT JESUS NEVER SAID

PETER WAS TO BE THE POPE,

NOR DID HE SAY

PETER SHOULD START THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.

IT JUST AINT IN THERE...NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU WANT IT .. TOO.
Clay

United States

#426492 Mar 8, 2013
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
Faith is given by God for salvation but you received salvation from the faith of your parents....interesting.
?? None of us were given salvation...yet.

Our parents did what Christ wanted them to do, by bringing their new child to Him in Baptism. Later on, that Catholic child will have the opportunity to put his own stamp on what his parents did when he/she receives the Sacrament of Confirmation at an age of maturity.

- I thought you were Catholic once?

- its not a good idea to tamper with Baptism or attempt to prevent new parents from bringing forth their child to Jesus. There is something evil about what you're doing. If you're worried the child will not be properly 'saved', then relax.
He'll have an opportunity to reaffirm His infant Baptism at his Confirmation like I stated above.
Clay

United States

#426493 Mar 8, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
Then why did Peter say this?
68Simon Peter answered him,“Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. 69We believe and know that you are the Holy One of God.”
You're using THAT verse to cancel out the Eucharist?

I've stated before, some of you are going to need to find a way to smuggle your handy Bibles to judgement day, so you can show God all your yellow highlights and explain why you undid early Apostolic teachings..
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#426494 Mar 8, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
?? None of us were given salvation...yet.
Our parents did what Christ wanted them to do, by bringing their new child to Him in Baptism. Later on, that Catholic child will have the opportunity to put his own stamp on what his parents did when he/she receives the Sacrament of Confirmation at an age of maturity.
- I thought you were Catholic once?
- its not a good idea to tamper with Baptism or attempt to prevent new parents from bringing forth their child to Jesus. There is something evil about what you're doing. If you're worried the child will not be properly 'saved', then relax.
He'll have an opportunity to reaffirm His infant Baptism at his Confirmation like I stated above.
Are you saying that salvation does not start when a catholic infant is baptized?

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#426495 Mar 8, 2013
459
Stan-an-Ollie wrote:
<quoted text>My Stanley has a serious problem in that such good people got exterminated and cremated by 'ol Hitler and his Nazi henchmen....while despicable bastards like you continue to walk around.
Stanley thinks that the noose is too good for you. He thinks that you should be tarred and feathered, drawn and quartered, and then have a noose put around your scrawny neck with the rope tossed over a tree...all at the same time that you are being shot with a ball of your own schidt.
Stanley also says that your mother sucked pigs.
Go Figure, you heathen scumBag.
cannibal: 1. A person who eats the flesh of other humans.

Catholics do this every time they do a mass...they are proud of what they do....

Plus they drink His blood...and, of all things, become alcoholics!!!!!!!!
Dan

Omaha, NE

#426496 Mar 8, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
So I am an odd ball,
because I believe in the word of God...
and I believe a person should obey the gospel...all of it...
Do you believe all of the Gospel?
Or do you believe another gospel?
~~~
Rom 10:16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Rom 10:18 But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.
I believe in the verbal inspiration of the Bible..
I reject the fables of the Roman Catholic Church ...THAT PAYS
ATTENTION TO PARTS OF THE GOSPEL BUT REJECTED MOST OF IT.
Here, you are plainly rejecting the Gospel. Plainly, respective to the Eucharist. It's plain on its face and you reject it.

Your defense?

"The RCC rejects most of it", whilst not telling us what, exactly, they reject.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#426497 Mar 8, 2013
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you saying that salvation does not start when a catholic infant is baptized?
Baptism is salvific.

It's required to enter Heaven.

Die without it and you run the risk of not gaining Heaven. That's why Christ said it was necessary.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#426498 Mar 8, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
Then why did Peter say this?
68Simon Peter answered him,“Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. 69We believe and know that you are the Holy One of God.”
He didn't say it so we would blow off the rest of John 6 as you do.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#426499 Mar 8, 2013
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Dan wrote:
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"I renewed my Baptismal vows at Confirmation and received the Grace of the Holy Spirit there as well."
Miss that?
At the age of three months, you were mature enough to declare your baptismal vows, which you later "renewed"????!!!! That is as believable as the belief that pigs fly!!!!!

Why did you need to renew them??? Were they wore out????!!!!
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#426500 Mar 8, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
?? None of us were given salvation...yet.
Our parents did what Christ wanted them to do, by bringing their new child to Him in Baptism. Later on, that Catholic child will have the opportunity to put his own stamp on what his parents did when he/she receives the Sacrament of Confirmation at an age of maturity.
- I thought you were Catholic once?
- its not a good idea to tamper with Baptism or attempt to prevent new parents from bringing forth their child to Jesus. There is something evil about what you're doing. If you're worried the child will not be properly 'saved', then relax.
He'll have an opportunity to reaffirm His infant Baptism at his Confirmation like I stated above.
Clay said: its not a good idea to tamper with Baptism. There is something evil about what you're doing.

**You truly have some of the most idiotic posts on this forum.

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