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#425779 Mar 5, 2013
#425780 Mar 5, 2013
Saban, Apostolic succession; the Papacy and Magistrium of the Catholic Church was not started because they read certain texts. Its the result of action.
It was started by what the Apostles DID. Not WROTE.
Peter was given authority. We can glimpse this in Matthew 16: 19. But we experienced it when he established Universal Churches and appointed Bishops. We know Peter appointed Bishops because those men also wrote. We know the Bishop of Rome was the leader of the universal Church from very early on. Clement (Bishop of Rome) wrote his epistles with authority while some of the original Apostles were still alive.
This is how Christ set up the Church. This is why we honor the Papacy. When you see people kissing the ring of the Pope, i'd imagine your first thought is confusion and disgust. But if you understood that its a sign of respect for the chair. Not the human sitting in it per se, but the acknowledgement of what happened 2,000 yrs ago when mere men were given authority from Heaven, to govern the Church that Jesus Christ started. To bind and loose things on Earth that the Angels in Heaven will acknowledge.
You might say 'Peter and the Apostles were given that authority, not any other Bishop or Pope!!"
That's not really true. We can see the first sign of this authority being passed on when Clement gives orders in his letter to the Corinthians- written while John (for one) was still alive. Clement was Bishop of Rome. He settled a dispute in Corinth, and they obeyed him. Fast forward 2,000 yrs and its still the same. If there is a dispute amongst the Catholic Churches in Africa, the new Bishop of Rome (Pope) will settle it just like Clement did with the Corinthians. This real authority given from above.
Now, this authority has certain limits because it can't undo what was originally established. In other words, the new Pope does not have the authority to undo the Eucharist, for example. Or Baptism. I say this because today, there are ministers who hate the Papacy, but ironically, have assumed more authority upon themselves then our Popes do.
Saint Paul, MN
#425781 Mar 5, 2013
WRONG!! The Catholic Church is not a denomination! It was a Universal "Christian/spiritual entity of the VISIBLE TRUTH of the writings, traditions, manuscripts and letters from Jesus Christ HIMSELF and the Apostoles..... It was, is and will always be, the ONLY TRUE CHURCH that was established by Jesus Christ HIMSELF!!...There was only one Church and Jesus Christ initiated it,(over 2000 years ago) with HIS 1st authoritative, heirarchical, visible, Church at Antioch---headed by the Apostles (with Bishops, elders, priests and deacons in (Acts 2)... Denominational (division) began at the Reformation with Luther, followed by Zwingli, Hus, Wycliff, Calvin, Knox, Cranmer, Hedio and on and on and on and on--(now over 42,000 conflicting and contradicting "relative truth" denominations. EVERY ONE OF THEM are "MAN-MADE" beginning with Luther and the Lutheran Church. NOT ONE OF THEM was initiated, formed, established or founded by Jesus Christ HIMSELF---(Again)----THEY ARE ALL MAN INVENTED, MAN-INITIATED and MAN MADE by "so-called reformers" who claimed to be "so-called (enlightened expert) theologians", who chose to reject over 1500 years of PROVEN and AUTHENTICATED ---TRUE Biblical and Historical TRUTH---from the Early Church Fathers, documented Lives of the Saints and the overwhelming evidence of TRUTH from the Apologistic Historian authors and writers. God is not, nor ever will be, the author of your 42,000+ "bible only" Protestant "relative truth" --MAN-MADE divisions of confusion and chaos!
#425782 Mar 5, 2013
For the forgiveness of your SINS, Marge.....
Baptized into the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ......
#425783 Mar 5, 2013
Yes, Tony, baptism is very IMPORTANT!
It is a covenant with God......and much, much more!
Saint Paul, MN
#425784 Mar 5, 2013
Sorry-Oxbow--but I don't need to get back to you about ANYTHING because I,we as Catholics,(need only) to continue to "get back to") THE TRUTH of our place of faith, hope, trust and salvation in Jesus Christ at Daily Mass, the Gospel message, the Eucharist, the other Sacraments, bible readings, and the Adoration Prayer Chapel with the Blessed Sacrament---IN AND THROUGH Our lords One (and only TRUE) Apostolic Catholic Church.
We, as Catholics, invite you to "get back to us" to discover the FULLNESS OF THE FAITH and the FULLNESS OF THE TRUTH in Jesus Christ and His One True Catholic Church (the Bride of Christ-HIMSELF), instead of "drifting around in circles" your bible only boat of confusion, contradiction, and relative "half-truth" Christianity!!!
#425785 Mar 5, 2013
Who stated that He would be giving Israel a new covenant that was not like the old one???
#425786 Mar 5, 2013
And.....always giving God the Glory in everything you do.....
#425787 Mar 5, 2013
But who do you say that I am?
you is used as plural.....
Jesus is asking all of his apostles this question...
“You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
This is the confession of all of the apostles of Jesus Christ.
Peter is just stating these words on behalf of them (apostles) all.
“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”
Since: Jun 10
"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"
#425788 Mar 5, 2013
If you really want to 'respect the Word of God', you'll cease looking at it from a word for word literal translation.
There are no direct quotes of Jesus in the Bible.. Jesus never wrote any of the Bible.
This is why its baffling that some of ya break down these verses like you do.'Jesus first calls Peter, pebble. Then reverts back to rock, which would mean him now. He's the rock because Blah Blah.'
You see how silly it is? Matthew wrote what he remembered Jesus saying. The Holy Spirit would have inspired Matthew to get the jist of the message being conveyed. The Spirit didn't whisper to Matthew a word for word account.
Peter is the Rock and Jesus gave him authority.
" There are no direct quotes of Jesus in the Bible.. Jesus never wrote any of the Bible."
So since you believe that there are
no DIRECT QUOTES of Jesus in the Bible.. why do you stake your eternal destiny upon Matthew 16: 17-19 if they were not spoken forth ...and are not... the words of Jesus...
Is it because of your atheistic believe that Jesus was never directly quoted....
that your Church ....can write into the Bible...edit in...
what ever they assume ...or want ....Jesus to say....
and build their own dynasty upon their assumptions?
Is that the reason that they have invented that fables, myths and
attempted to changed the Bible into a fiction novel?
The Bible describes you..
Jas 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
Jas 1:6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
Jas 1:7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.
Jas 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
Jas_4:8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.
#425789 Mar 5, 2013
he took me for hand
when i see i see building
216 gerge trc,,its stay in air with long dress and longer hair in midlle diveded..
photo stay front of me of that building
what say here
for you constitute him
high bless for ever
you make him feel glad
with the rejoicing at your face
''i trust in you
kakav prijatelj je Isus
on ce uzet te za ruku
kad te prijatelji prezru
another photo stay front of me
i took that on deference time
i can't remember everything what
i drove on papers
i follow what i drove that time
i don't know that time
what i will fuind
but its lead me
that i can see
yes i see
i see now perfectly
he art every heart
art what i take photo
its not my art
no definitly not
i just took photo
that time its look funny
other people have nice lunch cup of tea coffee..
is that shame go inside and took photo
i liked be honest not at all
i asked when i enter
what they say
i don't think so they say somting
they say yes but
i don't see that yes must be something influence of something what i can't see
i know its lead me
i see what stay upon now
no charleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeee
please don't do that
its pure as well clear secret
#425790 Mar 5, 2013
i give you warning for nulty line.
its stay pure and clear on photo
he art every heart
its lead me to know
when i come look streets numbers letters..
i liked talk with someone
but i can't find noone to know to understood
''kad te prijatelji prezru''
21;9 fiery furnace
photo stay front off meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
what is that on map
i speak before
not over line 63 on map
i told you its warning
don't do thattttttttttttttttttttttttt
#425791 Mar 5, 2013
i took photoo
its stay front off meeeeeeeeeeeeeee
its stay as your luster
is that revange
if you do that
its not mental
anybody can seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
i am not artist
i just took photo whats artist doooooooooooooooo
a just like that
its deference when you find imposibleeeeeee
on ordinary wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyy
i am as i am
you are notttttttttttttttttttttttttttt ttttttttt
why you going do that
what you going destroyyyyyyyyyyy
shut uppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp ppppppppppp
stop you stupidityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
you must stoppppppppppppppppppppppppppp pppppp
#425792 Mar 5, 2013
i took another 24 photo
its stay front of meeeeeeeeeeeeeee
what you will dooooooooooooooooooooooooo
what a shameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeee
di ce to past sto ces bacit
“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”
Since: Jun 10
"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"
#425793 Mar 5, 2013
The teaching of the ANTICHRIST IS PALPABLE TO THOSE THAT HAVE SAID...
"DIFFERENT RELIGIONS.... ARE JUST DIFFERENT SHIPS HEADED FOR THE SAME ISLAND"...
The above statement has been posted here in this forum by Roman Catholics...
From the trend of their posting... of course...this excludes
the evangelicals...the protestants and other Christian groups.
The Heathens infidels Gnostic and other religions cults such as the Hindu Islamist etc are accepted... as valid ships...
Joh_14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Joh 10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
Joh 10:2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
Joh 10:3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.
Joh 10:4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
Joh 10:5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.
#425794 Mar 5, 2013
sto ces unistit ovu planetu
#425795 Mar 5, 2013
what is on photo
art which i don't do
somebody else long time ago
now you are mrs or mr claudija
did youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuu
over photo is padobran like cloud
are you sure noone is not corupt
jesi ti to vidija
#425796 Mar 5, 2013
Something is wrong with "started by the Apostles" thing.
The Orthodox and Roman churches were a single church with no papal primacy for at least 600 or 700 years.
Stop ignoring the obvious. You sound foolish.
The Vatican has plenty of well-paid officials who sound foolish and they don't need your help.
Stop misinforming people about the RCC. You are doing it no favors.
#425797 Mar 5, 2013
You said, "why do you stake your eternal destiny on Matthew 16: 17-19?"
The Church doesn't base her eternal destiny on any verses of the Bible.
Again, the Catholic Church wasn't started by what people read. It was started by what people did.
Your church and all the others in Protestantism were started by individual people, based on what they read in scripture. This is why y'all are all over the theological map.
The Church came first, Confrint. And then the NT.
You guys are in error for assuming its the other way around. I guess if you realized the truth, you'd be forced to acknowledge the validity of the Catholic Church. Then, you'd be forced to admit that you believe Jesus Christ let this Church get infiltrated by the Devil.
#425798 Mar 5, 2013
yes island photo is corect
how i know on ordinary way
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