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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 653690 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#425595 Mar 3, 2013
socci wrote:
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This is what Jesus said of his church (bride / people):
Mt.19:16 "And, behold, one came and said to him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said to him, Why call you me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if you will enter into life, keep the commandments. He said to him, Which? Jesus said, You shall do no murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness, Honor your father and your mother: and, You shall love your neighbor as yourself."
Mt.5:19 Whoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Rev.22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
So if your church is "keeping God's law" then it is the right one. If not, then you are in the wrong place.
Understand we are not saved by keeping God's law rather if we are following God we will be keeping his law..!
This is actually how I chose a church after leaving the baptist, and am so glad i did.
Great!! Believe what you want!! It makes no difference to me or ANY Catholic for that matter. We'll continue to "stick with the PROVEN TRUTH" of over 2000 years of the TRUE Interpretation of the Bible and the TRUTH of TRUE Church History that has, is and will continue to be in Jesus Christ and His One (and only TRUE) Apostolic Catholic Church.
socci

Plattsburg, MO

#425596 Mar 3, 2013
hojo wrote:
Just ask your other 42,000 conflicting and contradicting (bible only) self-interpreters and they will ALL give you different opinions,---HOWEVER---we, as Catholics ALL KNOW that you "fundies" just (conveniently) insert the word Catholic, wherever and whenever it "fits" your bible only anti-catholic "twisted" (editorialized opinion)!!

• Roman Empire schema

The following interpretation is a traditional view of Jewish and Christian Historicists, Futurists, Dispensationalists, Partial Preterists, and other futuristic Jewish and Christian hybrids, as well as certain Messianic Jews, who typically believe that the kingdoms in Daniel are:

-Neo-Babylonian Empire
-Medo-Persian Empire
-Macedonian Empire of Alexander and his Diadochi (Hellenistic period)
-Roman Empire, with other implications to come later.

This was the scheme described by Jerome in his Commentary on Daniel.[7] Within this framework there are numerous variations.

•Use with Book of Revelation

Christian interpreters typically read the Book of Daniel with the New Testament's Book of Revelation. A beast in Revelation 13 was also interpreted as the empire of Rome.[8] The "city on seven hills" in Revelation is understood by the majority of modern scholarly commentators as a reference to Rome.[9][10][11][12][13][14][1 5][16][17][18][19][20][21]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_kingdoms_of...

It is no idle interpretation rather has been understood for over 2000 years.
socci

Plattsburg, MO

#425597 Mar 3, 2013
hojo wrote:
Great!! Believe what you want!! It makes no difference to me or ANY Catholic for that matter. We'll continue to "stick with the PROVEN TRUTH" of over 2000 years of the TRUE Interpretation of the Bible and the TRUTH of TRUE Church History that has, is and will continue to be in Jesus Christ and His One (and only TRUE) Apostolic Catholic Church.

This is why there are divisions in Christianity - we read the bible and reject what is written.

You say you believe in Jesus. The devils also believe:

James 2:19 "You believe that there is one God; you do well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

Then what do we do to follow Jesus?

1 John 5:3 "For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous."

1 John 2:4 "He that said, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him."


This is why Paul said:


"Know you not, that to whom you yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants you are to whom you obey; whether of sin to death, or of obedience to righteousness?" (Romans 6:16)

"For if he that comes preaches another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if you receive another spirit, which you have not received, or another gospel, which you have not accepted, you might well bear with him." (2 Cor.11:4)

"And Jesus answered and said to them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many." (Mt.24:4)

That is your 'vicar of christ'-- another jesus.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#425598 Mar 3, 2013
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hojo wrote:
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Great!! Believe what you want!! It makes no difference to me or ANY Catholic for that matter. We'll continue to "stick with the PROVEN TRUTH" of over 2000 years of the TRUE Interpretation of the Bible and the TRUTH of TRUE Church History that has, is and will continue to be in Jesus Christ and His One (and only TRUE) Apostolic Catholic Church.
Horse apples!!!!

From Scripture:
Mt 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

You first change a common noun "church" into a proper noun "Church"...so, you are guilty of changing Scripture to support your erroneous teaching.

The Greek word for church is "ekklesia" and is defined as:a calling out, i.e.(concretely) a popular meeting, especially a religious congregation (Jewish synagogue, or Christian community of members on earth or saints in heaven or both):--assembly, church.

The word "church" does not define any Christian denominations...

Quote: For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#425599 Mar 3, 2013
hojo wrote:
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Just ask your other 42,000 conflicting and contradicting (bible only) self-interpreters and they will ALL give you different opinions,---HOWEVER---we, as Catholics ALL KNOW that you "fundies" just (conveniently) insert the word Catholic, wherever and whenever it "fits" your bible only anti-catholic "twisted" (editorialized opinion)!!
There is absolutely no wisdom in the RCC. However my Christian brethren and sisters, do not be angry with those that follown the RCC for they do mean well even though they be severely misguided in following this vile religion known as Catholicism. In due season Christ will deliver them from this religion known as Catholicism. In the meantime we simply need to keep praying for them that they will see the light and come out of that harlot religion as scripture advises.


To follow Christ's example as He was dying on the cross we too ask God to forgive those members of the RCC for as the Roman soldiers were in ignorance in killing the King of Glory for they knew not what they do, neither do the members of the RCC. So father forgive them.
truth

Maylands, Australia

#425600 Mar 4, 2013
rosary is veru powerfull weapend
destroy vica versa and much more..

i just return i talk with one nice laady no no not to much pray..just talk nicly..
o well
who ever call upon my name
for moment i see she lose herself bur its go out
yep zmijica =snake go out from her..
nemoj kazat..then second doing from her..nemoj kazat

ye who ever call upon my name
two go out snake vake nake..
who ever call upon name

i listen how talk upon me svetice .......
they talk upon me yes they talking i fill them around me..
no i don't pray today not any prayers but i speak about prayers and Jesus..
how much 2.5 hours..simple ordinary talk nothing special..
by
my lovely accusers i will pray for you..
truth

Maylands, Australia

#425601 Mar 4, 2013
first go out
then second go out

Why they scare?

who call upon my name..
truth

Maylands, Australia

#425602 Mar 4, 2013
zamantala je yes.. jao

when i notice i from inat talk yes..o well but i respect this lady..very nicely..did i stop talk ..no no no
see
two zmijice=2 snake go out..o svetice svetice svetice..they call my name..
zamantala jadna sto ces..vise nego ocevidno..bit i liked that lady..she is very nice..no i don't pray rosary front of her i just walk one hour before
who ever call my name..
i see its go out..

Are you for sure its not true..
dvije zmijice go out=two snake..zamantala jadna zmijica..
Ken Barlows hair

UK

#425603 Mar 4, 2013
the catholic church has been corrupted by sexual deviants. Also why do they say they are the church of the poor when the top people live in decadent luxury in the Vatican?? its a fraud. they are just well established criminals who get away with commiting any crime they like.
truth

Maylands, Australia

#425604 Mar 4, 2013
7 billions children is not as you think..ye as you say others corrupt institution is not better..catholic is still better then anyone..

Since: Nov 08

usa

#425605 Mar 4, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
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Thank you Jethro.
It's good to know that Galileo has another friend here.
of course i'm a fan of his,he made great strides in science despite being handcuffed by the christian/pagan church,who tried desperately to retard the search for truth threw science. i for one am very greatful for science,because of modern technology in the field of scientific medicine,i'm still here 1.5 yrs and counting longer than i should be.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#425606 Mar 4, 2013
Yahchanan wrote:
We know what he did to Sodom And Gomorrah. Compare those places to this united states and the sin committed here.And no you will not be spared because you are A Christian Or A catholick.we will all suffer NO Rapture that is A fairy tail.
We have destroyed our self's by our sin.
By not keeping the laws of love and peace.
And the world will mourn for her because they all drank of the wine of her fornication.The united states Will be destroyed.But suffering is what we have brought upon our self's.By not keeping the laws.
See folks I'm Not going to white wash the truth like every preacher in this world you get the truth from me. Even if you can not accept it I did my job by telling you.
To me each and everyone of you have slapped the creator in the face By your god worship. It is A fact that Yahweh Is not A good It say's so in every dictionary every concordance but yet you read but can not comprehend. It must be unless you are called And chosen you will not understand this. The sabbath the feast day how they were done away with for pagan holidays.And the laws..
Ha Ha here is A good one How About you will cause them to forget my name and the world has.I have ask People have you ever heard of Yahweh most have not but those you have say Yahweh god.....Nope sorry.......
Yahweh is not a god.
the two cities were destroyed by a natural gas explosion caused by an earth quake,glass fragments were found around the area which were created by tremendous heat associated with an explosion of that from volcanos or gas.was not done by any god,and lots wife never turned to a pillar of salt,if she did,where is the pillar?

Since: Nov 08

usa

#425607 Mar 4, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
Reading Scripture...continued..from post 425435....
Those who mistakenly believe the Word of God is fallible will answer "Sure it makes sense!!! It proves what I have been saying...the Bible is fallible...Christ would never teach us to abandon our families and properties to inherit everlasting life!!!!"
Then there are those that know the Bible is infallible, and will insist that those were the exact words of Christ, that He was speaking in the literal sense..that He meant for us to leave...abandon.....our families and properties to inherit everlasting life.
Their reasoning is that the Bible is written in English and the English dictionary says "forsake" means to leave..to abandon....but....they have not done so....cannot do so...and know of no one whom has ever done so!!!!!!
So, they see a problem with Scripture in the infallible Sacred Word of God, but have no idea how to resolve it!!!
the bible is fallible starting with the first book to just about the last.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#425608 Mar 4, 2013
Ken Barlows hair wrote:
the catholic church has been corrupted by sexual deviants. Also why do they say they are the church of the poor when the top people live in decadent luxury in the Vatican?? its a fraud. they are just well established criminals who get away with commiting any crime they like.
not all are deviantes,there are quite a few yes,but a lot of the higherarchy are more into money,greed and power,which needs to be stopped,if they want to be considered a country within a country lets invade them and take back everything they stole over the centuries from the occupation of lands of the roman empire,they pretty much raped israel of their holy possesions,scriptures,gold,sil ver,enslaved them,and they turn around and declare themselves the true church of god. IF a true church exists,god/jesus would not put it in the hands of man,church history explains why,from child molesting,whore mongering,indulging in every vice known to man yert they are suppose to be holy men that follow the word of god,it is more decadent than the two cities of sodom and gamora,if an anti-christ lives, he lives within the walls of vatican city,waiting to be placed in power over the church,then the real fun will begin.the talk of a holy war will take place,and it will be catholic versus islam,how do i know this? islam has allready blown up catholic churches in africa,an things will slowly escalate,they will abandon their fight against the hated capitalists (U.S. and others) and turn their focus onto the church,i'm sure they remember how the catholics tried to wipe out their religion and thier beliefs centuries ago for dominance in the religious world,and these guys/girls are fanatics when it comes to their dedication to what they believe in.It's the fastest growing religion right now,so the vatican better take heed as to what they say about Islam.the day is slowly coming,the catholic church will be no more.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#425609 Mar 4, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Just ask your other 42,000 conflicting and contradicting (bible only) self-interpreters and they will ALL give you different opinions,---HOWEVER---we, as Catholics ALL KNOW that you "fundies" just (conveniently) insert the word Catholic, wherever and whenever it "fits" your bible only anti-catholic "twisted" (editorialized opinion)!!
your 42,000 is way off,you forgot to add in the 1.6 billion self interperatating catholics,and all other religious groups,all do the same thing,they pick and choose stories from the books and TELL YOU what they believe it means,when reality is they don't know themselves,no one does,because we do not know the whole truth,and we'll never know thanks to the early church morons who went along with constantines idea of burning books,the worst thing to happen to the scriptures is the catholic church.
Clay

Lawrence, MA

#425610 Mar 4, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
WHAT DO YOU ROMAN Catholics DO WITH THIS SCRIPTURE
WHEN YOU WRITE YOUR FABLES ABOUT PETER...
CLAIMING HE IS THE ROCK ON WHICH THE CHURCH WAS BUILT
WHAT???
Confrint, Peter did not claim he was the rock. Jesus did!
We Catholics didn't declare Peter as the rock either. Jesus did.

"Peter you are the rock upon which I'll build my Church"

One more time.

"Peter YOU are the ROCK upon which I'll build MY CHURCH"

Why are you trying to undo this?

What makes you think you have the authority to undo this?
Clay

Lawrence, MA

#425611 Mar 4, 2013
Tony17 wrote:
<quoted text>Question for all those that follow the Roman Catholic Church. If the above scripture isn't referring to the Catholic Church, in your opinion, who do you think this scripture from Revelation is referring to?
That scripture from Revelation is referring to the Roman Empire.
The prophecy came and gone. That is the most reasonable and logical explanation. This is what early Christianity understood. In fact, I don't believe anyone bothered to argue another scenario until the evangelicals arrived 1,800 yrs later. I could be wrong, but I don't believe anyone in Protestantism offered such a scenario until the Evangelicals did their thing.
All signs point to the pre 311 Roman Empire; the destruction they wrathed upon Christianity; slaughtering all the 12 Apostles but one; slaughtering all their followers; burning their Churches and homes.

If you have any doubt, consider that it was the ROMAN Catholic Church who made the book of Revelation part of the Bible.
Why would they do that if they suspected John was referring to them??
It was obvious they knew (being only a hundred yrs removed from the last persecution of 303-310, that the Apostle John was seeing the Pagan Roman Empire and their destruction.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#425612 Mar 4, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you "list a bunch of bible verses" from the book of Peter and
WILLFULLY IGNORE THE (EXPLICIT, SPOKEN AND STATED WORDS OF JESUS "HIMSELF" (in the Gospel) of St Matthew 16:13-21 regarding His One True Church. The one in which He appoints Peter as HIS earthly representative to "lead HIS Church"!!
1Co_10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

The answer to you question is very simple..

From genesis through revelation

God AND JESUS ARE referenced as our Rock 106 times in the Bible...

YOUR claim that the Church is built upon A CORRUPTIBLE MAN NAMED PETER...(in you wildest dreams... is ludicrous) has no validation..

There are 106 verses found, TO PROVE MY POINT

YOU HAVE NONE

OLD TESTAMENT

Exodus 3 verses found
Numbers 4 verses found
Deuteronomy 8 verses found
Judges 12 verses found
1 Samuel 3 verses found
2 Samuel 6 verses found
1 Chronicles 1 verse found
2 Chronicles 1 verse found
Nehemiah 1 verse found
Job 8 verses found
Psalms 24 verses found
Proverbs 1 verse found
Song of Solomon 1 verse found
Isaiah 9 verses found
Jeremiah 7 verses found
Ezekiel 4 verses found
Amos 1 verse found
Obadiah 1 verse found

MEW TESTAMENT

Matthew 4 verses found
Mark 1 verse found
Luke 3 verses found
Romans 1 verse found
1 Corinthians 1 verse found
1 Peter 1 verse found
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#425613 Mar 4, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
WHAT???
Confrint, Peter did not claim he was the rock. Jesus did!
We Catholics didn't declare Peter as the rock either. Jesus did.
"Peter you are the rock upon which I'll build my Church"
One more time.
"Peter YOU are the ROCK upon which I'll build MY CHURCH"
Why are you trying to undo this?
What makes you think you have the authority to undo this?
Please cite the chapter and verse and translation of that direct quote you just attributed to Jesus.
preston

Athens, OH

#425614 Mar 4, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
WHAT???
Confrint, Peter did not claim he was the rock. Jesus did!
We Catholics didn't declare Peter as the rock either. Jesus did.
"Peter you are the rock upon which I'll build my Church"
One more time.
"Peter YOU are the ROCK upon which I'll build MY CHURCH"
Why are you trying to undo this?
What makes you think you have the authority to undo this?
quit lying, clay. it doesnt behoove you toact like a juvenile.

Jesus never said those words," Peter ,you are the rock upon which I will build my church."

the "rock" that Jesus is talking about is the claim that peter made as all Christians on here will affirm, altho catholics will not since they have been told that lie so man times.

God Saves us, not a man like Peter, who like all of us gets weak sometimes.so then the ONLY ONE that He knows will not falter is that "rock" that was carved out of the mountain, that is JESUS.

no wonder that you clay are lost(and you are), you believe fairy tales from the fairys that make up your clergy

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