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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 596513 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#424896 Feb 27, 2013
socci wrote:
Why are new agers often discovered to be Catholics? could it be their predisposed belief in spiritualism and other gnostic books?
Because we chose to research the religion we we indoctrinated with, and realized that the information given was incomplete.

Why don't you believe Jesus?
Free Mind

Melbourne, FL

#424897 Feb 27, 2013
Working for the Lord wrote:
<quoted text> Tell me of some of these errors instead of just saying they are, prove it.
The stars are for signs?

Usury is wrong? Slavery is OK?

Even you don't believe in Biblical cures I'll wager.

"Is any among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: and the prayer of faith shall save him that is sick.... " (James 5:14-15 ASV)

Does the earth really sit on pillars? Does it have four corners? Can you see all kingdoms from a tall mountain?

Let the spin begin.

PS - do you wash your hands before eating?

PPS -- do you know any believers who have made themselves eunuchs?

Oh my!!!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#424898 Feb 27, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
We are all "sons of God".
This is Christianity 101 - you should know this, unless you are prejudice of others? Are you?
A christian is know by HIS FRUITS...

Mat_7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Mat_7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

IT IS OUT OF THE ABUNDANCE OF YOUR HEART THAT YOU WRITE...

DESCRIBING THE THE UNREGENERATED HEART ..

Jeremiah SAID

Jer_17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

JESUS SAID

OF A REGENERATED AND UNREGENERATED HEART

Luk_6:45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

PAUL WROTE

Eph 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.

Eph 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.

Eph 5:8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:

Eph 5:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

Eph 5:10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.

Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

CHRISTIAN DISCIPLINE THEMSELVES ACCORDING TO THE LEADERSHIP OF THE HOLY SPIRIT...NOT ACCORDING TO THE FLESH

2Co 10:2 But I beseech you, that I may not be bold when I am present with that confidence, wherewith I think to be bold against some, which think of us as if we walked according to the flesh.

2Co 10:3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:

2Co 10:4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)

2Co 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

2Co 10:6 And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#424899 Feb 27, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
The stars are for signs?
Usury is wrong? Slavery is OK?
Even you don't believe in Biblical cures I'll wager.
"Is any among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: and the prayer of faith shall save him that is sick.... " (James 5:14-15 ASV)
Does the earth really sit on pillars? Does it have four corners? Can you see all kingdoms from a tall mountain?
Let the spin begin.
PS - do you wash your hands before eating?
PPS -- do you know any believers who have made themselves eunuchs?
Oh my!!!
~~~
WHAT IS THE POINTS... YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO MAKE... IN YOUR ABOVE POST?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#424900 Feb 27, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Me want questions? I'm sorry, no I don't. But am willing to answer them, after others I've directed mine too, will answer them.
You are avoiding my questions also. Why?
<quoted text>
Of course.
You will too if you accept all of what Jesus taught.
What are you afraid of
~~~

Ecc_12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

1Jn_4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#424901 Feb 27, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
Your above questions ARE just information ....(vain jingling) THEY have nothing to do with the essential, knowledge of receiving Christ as your personal savior...
1Ti 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
1Ti 1:5 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:
1Ti 1:6 From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling;
The instructions of how to receive Jesus Christ is knowledge give by the Holy Ghost...
Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Rom 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
You are incorrect. But what would I have expected from someone who takes the word of men and pushes it as "God's".

Arrogance seems to be your master.

You wrote:
"Your above questions ARE just information ....(vain jingling) THEY have nothing to do with the essential, knowledge of receiving Christ as your personal savior..."

"vain jingling"?
- Huh? Why do you add vanity to Jesus' teachings?
- To "receive Christ as your personal saviour" is a choice an individual makes, just LIKE JESUS STATED.

If this is your version of Jesus' teachings - then it is absurd.

Why don't you beleive in ALL Of what Jesus taught?

Are you afraid of something?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#424902 Feb 27, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
Why not receive Jesus and learn how to become a mature Son of God..
Considering I have with all of his teachings, and you haven't....it appears you are behind the eight-ball and are lacking those steps to "receive Jesus".

I understand, men have gotten in your way in order to do so.

One must put aside the edicts of men and begin anew - "born again".

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#424903 Feb 27, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
Dishonest/Loaded questions.
No - you just can't be honest with yourself to admit the facts they include.

Keep denying the truth will only cause more blindness.
Saban fan

Mobile, AL

#424904 Feb 27, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
YOUR VAIN JANGLING DOES NOT EDIFY GOD.
1Ti 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
1Ti 1:5 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:
==>1Ti 1:6 From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling; <==
1Ti 1:7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.
I'm jangling? Perhaps you could define that and demonstrate how it is I am vain jangling.

I think you've reached way out on a limb!

The "fable" was HIS when HE stated I find Paul more enlightened than Jesus.

I'm answering his questions and have been told by him that he will not answer mine.

I'm not aware of my highlighting endless genealogies either.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#424905 Feb 27, 2013
Still didn't answer the questions, huh?

You are definitely a work of adversion. I understand - it is your comfort zone.
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
?1. I believe the scriptures are inspired (directly from God) therefore I am not trusting man over God. This is precisely the reason I don't trust you.
But yet men wrote these "scriptures", in which you have chosen to accept.

You are contradicting yourself.

I never asked you to trust me, so stop thinking you need to.

You get to choose on what to believe, even if it was men who created the texts you accept.
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
?2. Yes, I'm afraid to follow men. Therefore, believing the Holy Scriptures are in fact preserved by the Holy Spirit, I follow God, God's way.
If so, no words by men can describe "God". Unless you think men can. Do you?

Move past the words and understand their meanings.
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't expect you to answer my questions. You are just THAT type of person.
Again, you are wrong. I just did.

Why are you still judging me?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#424906 Feb 27, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
?1. Innuendo - an indirect intimation about a person or thing, especially of a disparaging or a derogatory nature.
How is telling others that there are many more teachings by Jesus that they don't follow, and I encouraging them to utilize them in their life - disparaging or derogatory.

Please explain.

Citation please.

IMO - I think you haven't a clue on what you believe, and tag along to the so-called "Christian" ways, because it gives you that sense of "involvement", when it really isn't needed in order to beleive in Jesus.
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
?2. You have loaded a question with presumption when you claim that "I find "Paul" more enlightened than Jesus.
Because you do - based upon the acceptance of more of what "Paul" wrote, than what Jesus said.

Prove to me that you don't.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#424907 Feb 27, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
You are incorrect. But what would I have expected from someone who takes the word of men and pushes it as "God's".
Arrogance seems to be your master.
You wrote:
"Your above questions ARE just information ....(vain jingling) THEY have nothing to do with the essential, knowledge of receiving Christ as your personal savior..."
"vain jingling"?
- Huh? Why do you add vanity to Jesus' teachings?
- To "receive Christ as your personal saviour" is a choice an individual makes, just LIKE JESUS STATED.
If this is your version of Jesus' teachings - then it is absurd.
Why don't you beleive in ALL Of what Jesus taught?
Are you afraid of something?
~~~

I AM VERY CAREFUL WHERE I EAT MY PHYSICAL FOOD...

EVEN MORE CAREFUL WHERE I GEM MY SPIRITUAL FOOD...

The old adage is

"COME INTO MY PARLOR said the spider to the fly

NOT TODAY THANKS MR LONG SHANKS...i have other fish to fry."

The Bible says/requires me to..

Heb_13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

I do not know you and neither do I care to fellowship in your strange conjecture....

You are not the watchman over my soul.

~~~
Eph 4:7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.

Eph 4:8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.

Eph 4:9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?

Eph 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

Eph 4:11 And he/JESUS gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

Eph 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

Eph 4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

Eph 4:16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.

Eph 4:17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,

Eph 4:18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:

Eph 4:19 Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.

Eph 4:20 But ye have not so learned Christ;

Eph 4:21 If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:

Eph 4:22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;

Eph 4:23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;

Eph 4:24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
Saban fan

Mobile, AL

#424908 Feb 27, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
Still didn't answer the questions, huh?
You are definitely a work of adversion. I understand - it is your comfort zone.
<quoted text>
But yet men wrote these "scriptures", in which you have chosen to accept.
You are contradicting yourself.
I never asked you to trust me, so stop thinking you need to.
You get to choose on what to believe, even if it was men who created the texts you accept.
<quoted text>
If so, no words by men can describe "God". Unless you think men can. Do you?
Move past the words and understand their meanings.
<quoted text>
Again, you are wrong. I just did.
Why are you still judging me?
?1. Inspired men can. God is working through them. Why do you limit the Holy Spirit so?(oops I almost forgot you don't answer questions)

?2. That wasn't a judgement so much as something you told me you wouldn't do. Plus, your sanctimonious character is shining brightly.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#424909 Feb 27, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm jangling? Perhaps you could define that and demonstrate how it is I am vain jangling.
I think you've reached way out on a limb!
The "fable" was HIS when HE stated I find Paul more enlightened than Jesus.
I'm answering his questions and have been told by him that he will not answer mine.
I'm not aware of my highlighting endless genealogies either.
~~~
I APOLOGIZED TO YOU IN A FORMER POST
AND TOLD YOU THAT I HAD SENT MY ANSWER TO THE WRONG PERSON...
DID YOU NOT READ MY POST
DID YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
SORRY ABOUT THAT.
Saban fan

Mobile, AL

#424910 Feb 27, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
How is telling others that there are many more teachings by Jesus that they don't follow, and I encouraging them to utilize them in their life - disparaging or derogatory.
Please explain.
Citation please.
IMO - I think you haven't a clue on what you believe, and tag along to the so-called "Christian" ways, because it gives you that sense of "involvement", when it really isn't needed in order to beleive in Jesus.
<quoted text>
Because you do - based upon the acceptance of more of what "Paul" wrote, than what Jesus said.
Prove to me that you don't.
?1. That is not exactly what I was referring to in that manner. Typical twist there by you.

?2. You have yet to prove I do accept more of what Paul wrote than what Jesus said. How can I prove this presumption of yours is false when you have yet to prove your presumptuous statement of me is true? Perhaps if you proved I was not following inspired scripture and you were, we could come to some conclusion. Frankly, what seems to be going over your head at the moment is that the burden of proof is yours.
Saban fan

Mobile, AL

#424911 Feb 27, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
I APOLOGIZED TO YOU IN A FORMER POST
AND TOLD YOU THAT I HAD SENT MY ANSWER TO THE WRONG PERSON...
DID YOU NOT READ MY POST
DID YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
SORRY ABOUT THAT.
oops. Sorry. I saw it, but it was only after I had already responded. No harm, no foul.
:)

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#424912 Feb 27, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Considering I have with all of his teachings, and you haven't....it appears you are behind the eight-ball and are lacking those steps to "receive Jesus".
I understand, men have gotten in your way in order to do so.
One must put aside the edicts of men and begin anew - "born again".
YOU WROTE

"I have with all of his teachings, and you haven't.."

YOUR ARROGANCE IS BEYOND DESCRIPTION...

no man that exist has all the teachings of Jesus...

BUT THE HOLY SPIRIT CAN READILY GIVE US LEADERSHIP..

and obviously YOU AINT HIM.

JESUS SAID...

Joh 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

Joh 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

Joh 16:9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;

Joh 16:10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;

Joh 16:11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

Joh 16:12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.

NOTE
Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

Joh 16:14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

Joh 16:15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

JESUS DID NOT SPEND HIS TIME QUIBBLING ABOUT 13 APOSTLES...

HIS PURPOSE WAS/IS..

Luk_19:10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.

Isa 61:1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;

Isa 61:2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;

Isa 61:3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified.
Saban fan

Mobile, AL

#424913 Feb 27, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
I never asked you to trust me, so stop thinking you need to.
Another Example: When did I ever say that I thought I needed to trust you? I think I stated I don't trust you. You've given me NO reason to.

You may be the finest example of anyone I've seen on this thread of placing words in people's mouths that were never there.

Again, presumption.

This is killing your credibility, New Age Spiritual Leader.

Try this:
Begin formulating an idea and presenting it, without pre-conceived presumption, and prove the validity of your case on the matter.

You can do it!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#424914 Feb 27, 2013
"Dan"
Here's a list of Lutheran sects. Maybe more than 42, but who's counting?
Lutheranism
Main article: List of Lutheran denominations
Apostolic Lutheran Church of America
Association of Free Lutheran Congregations
Church of the Lutheran Brethren of America
Church of the Lutheran Confession
Concordia Lutheran Conference
Confessional Evangelical Lutheran Conference Evangelical Lutheran Church "Concord" (Russia)
Evangelical Lutheran Free Church (Germany)
Evangelical Lutheran Synod (United States)
Lutheran Church of Central Africa Malawi Conference
Lutheran Church of Central Africa Zambia Conference
Ukrainian Lutheran Church
Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod (United States)
Evangelical Catholic Church
Kosovo Protestant Evangelical Church
Evangelical Community Church-Lutheran
Evangelical Lutheran Diocese of North America
International Lutheran Council American Association of Lutheran Churches
Evangelical Lutheran Church - Synod of France and Belgium
Evangelical Lutheran Church of Brazil
Evangelical Lutheran Church of England
Gutnius Lutheran Church
Independent Evangelical-Lutheran Church
Japan Lutheran Church
Lanka Lutheran Church
Lutheran Church—Canada
Lutheran Church—Hong Kong Synod
Lutheran Church—Missouri Synod (United States)
Lutheran Church of Australia (associate member)
Laestadian Lutheran Church
Latvian Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
Lutheran Church of China (no longer in existence)
Lutheran Church-International
Lutheran Congregations in Mission for Christ (United States)
Lutheran Evangelical Protestant Church (United States)
Lutheran Ministerium and Synod - USA
Lutheran World Federation Andhra Evangelical Lutheran Church
Arcot Lutheran Church
Batak Christian Protestant Church
Church of Denmark
Evangelical Lutheran Church of Finland
Church of Iceland
Church of Norway
Church of Sweden
Church of the Faroe Islands
Estonian Evangelical Lutheran Church
Evangelical Church of the Augsburg Confession in Slovakia
Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
Evangelical Lutheran Church in Canada
Evangelical Lutheran Church of Papua New Guinea
Evangelical Lutheran Church in Southern Africa
Evangelical Lutheran Church of Finland
Evangelical Lutheran Church of Latvia
Evangelical Lutheran Church in Tanzania
Evangelical Lutheran Church in Madhya Pradesh
Evangelical Lutheran Church in the Himalayan States
Evangelical Lutheran Free Church of Norway (associate member)
Gossner Evangelical Lutheran Church in Chotanagpur and Assam
Indian Evangelical Lutheran Church
Jeypore Evangelical Lutheran Church
Lutheran Church of Australia (associate member)
Malagasy Lutheran Church
Northern Evangelical Lutheran Church
Simalungun Protestant Christian Church
South Andhra Lutheran Church
Tamil Evangelical Lutheran Church
**********
Still ONE Lutheran church. Like CC churches have a different name in every town. St. Mary's CC Church, St. John's and on and on...
KM

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#424915 Feb 27, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
A christian is know by HIS FRUITS...
Maybe in your eyes, but not in "God's".

"We are all sons of the living Father."

Denying it is only showing that you deny and don't believe what Jesus said.

(3) Jesus says:

(1) "If those who lead you say to you:‘Look, the kingdom is in the sky!’
then the birds of the sky will precede you.
(2) If they say to you:‘It is in the sea,’ then the fishes will precede you.
(3) Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and outside of you."
(4) "When you come to know yourselves, then you will be known,
and you will realize that you are the children of the living Father.
(5) But if you do not come to know yourselves, then you exist in poverty, and you are poverty."

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gth_pat_rob.htm

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