Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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#424875 Feb 27, 2013
Henry wrote:
<quoted text>
The Bible is full of fakes, lies and errors! The Bible is a fairy tales for uneducated grownups!
Tell me of some of these errors instead of just saying they are, prove it.
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#424876 Feb 27, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
The Church of Christ is "nothing more' than an extension of the Protestant Reformation, by Luther, in the 16th century. In fact, the Church of Christ "never" came into existence until the 20th century. It is just another one of the (current) 42,000+ contradicting, conflicting and inconsistent "bible only" Protestant denominational beliefs that have "absolutely no basis of biblical or historical truth to back up" anything that it teaches", and is based upon "personal interpretation" of the bible!
It is "relative truth" Protestantism (what-ever each person or denomination believes is true,(for them) is the truth.
Jesus Christs One (and only) True Apostolic Catholic Church, has, is and will continue to be the ONLY proven, authenticated and verifiable Church of Jesus Christ where personal salvation in Jesus HIMSELF is the daily relationship that is manifested in and through HIS One True Church!!
The Church of Christ (timeline history)
1906 AD Churches of Christ (under the auspices of David Lipscomb of Nashville, TN) withdrew from the disciples and other Christia
denominations in disputes about war, instrumental music and missionary societies.
Not that it matters, but we have churches of Christ here in Alabama that have existed LONG before this 1906 date you mentioned.

Plus, if you happen to find a location that may be unfriendly to Christianity yet those people have a Bible and are attempting to follow God's Word. You will find a coC not the RCC!

Although it is harder to do, since each congregation is autonomous and answers to no higher authority within the church, the church of Christ can trace itself back hundreds of years in England. More importantly, it is the church you read about in the Holy Scriptures.

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#424877 Feb 27, 2013
Truth wrote:
Can you imagine if the church (body of believers) had no door (JESUS)???
What about all the wonderful blessings of salvation available in the church (body of believers???
And think about if it was impossible for you to get inside to receive those blessings???
You need to come to know that all (SPIRITUAL) are 'in Christ Jesus!!!'
Do you have the KEY to that door (JESUS)???
Yes it's at the Church of Christ, it's the only church which worships in spirit and in truth as God commands. The Catholic church is the #1 deceiver of mankind.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#424879 Feb 27, 2013
Clay wrote

Confrint, you've failed miserably to convince me God can be jealous of such powerful artwork that does nothing but enhance His glory. To put it bluntly, those things were carved out of pure love for God. Your warped ignorance tries to manipulate the ten Commandments in a vain attempt to falsely accuse us of worshiping those things. I see it plain as day.

Confront answers,..

Jesus said..

Joh_14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Joh_15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

You have the commandments of the Heavenly Father ...

If you think that you can be in His good graces by your blatantly disobeying Him..Have at it...

But

from the trend of what God has said...Your icons statues and idols are and insult to Him.

Deu 4:7 For what nation is there so great, who hath God so nigh unto them, as the LORD our God is in all things that we call upon him for?

Deu 4:8 And what nation is there so great, that hath statutes and judgments so righteous as all this law, which I set before you this day?

Deu 4:9 Only take heed to thyself, and keep thy soul diligently, lest thou forget the things which thine eyes have seen, and lest they depart from thy heart all the days of thy life: but teach them thy sons, and thy sons' sons;

Deu 4:10 Specially the day that thou stoodest before the LORD thy God in Horeb, when the LORD said unto me, Gather me the people together, and I will make them hear my words, that they may learn to fear me all the days that they shall live upon the earth, and that they may teach their children.

Deu 4:11 And ye came near and stood under the mountain; and the mountain burned with fire unto the midst of heaven, with darkness, clouds, and thick darkness.

NOTE WHAT GOD SAYS HERE

Deu 4:12 ==> And the LORD spake unto you out of the midst of the fire: ye heard the voice of the words, but saw no similitude; only ye heard a voice.<==

Deu 4:13 And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.

Deu 4:14 And the LORD commanded me at that time to teach you statutes and judgments, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go over to possess it

HERE IS TH INSTRUCTIONS THAT MOSES GAVE CONCERNING CORRUPTING YOURSELVES WIT IDOLS...

Deu 4:15 ==> Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves; for ye saw no manner of similitude on the day that the LORD spake unto you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire:

Deu 4:16 Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female,

Deu 4:17 The likeness of any beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged fowl that flieth in the air,

Deu 4:18 The likeness of any thing that creepeth on the ground, the likeness of any fish that is in the waters beneath the earth:

Deu 4:19 And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.

Deu 4:20 But the LORD hath taken you, and brought you forth out of the iron furnace, even out of Egypt, to be unto him a people of inheritance, as ye are this day.

~~~~~~

CONTINUED

XXXXXXX
Saban fan

Mobile, AL

#424880 Feb 27, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Questions:
Why do you think "Paul" is more enlightened than Jesus?
Why do you only believe in less than six of the original 13 Apostles?
Dishonest/Loaded questions.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#424881 Feb 27, 2013
CONTINUED

XXXXXXX

GOD,... THROUGH THE BLOOD OF JESUS HAS OFFERED YOU SALVATION

Col 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:

Col 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

Col 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

-->JESUS WAS/IS THE IMAGE OF GOD....THE EXPRESSED IMAGE OF GOD'S PERSON.<--

Col 1:15 --> Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: <---

Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

Col 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;

Col 1:20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

Col 1:21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled

Col 1:22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

NOTE
Col 1:23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

GOD FORBIDS STATUES IDOLS IMAGES IDOLS OF ANY CORRUPTIBLE MAN TO BE MADE IN HIS LIKENESS OR HIS SIMILITUDE...

MADE BY CORRUPTIBLE MAN IN THE
Saban fan

Mobile, AL

#424882 Feb 27, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
No I didn't, as I am hoping that you have never did, so why bother with the bullshit.
Did you want to beat your wife? If so, please seek the right counselling.
<quoted text>
Yes, because you accept what men have dictated for what you are to believe. Why? Do you trust them over your Self and "God"? Why?
Pls note - you only believe what you do, because it is only what certain men wanted you to believe.
Your spin and double-talk will work with the Catholics, but not this guy.
<quoted text>
Imagine that - you get to make the choice on what to believe, but yet you stick with what men have told you to believe.
Why? What are you afraid of if you choose otherwise?
<quoted text>
I've chosen not to answer your questions, until you've answered mine - you know, those ones you said you have, but haven't.
?1. I believe the scriptures are inspired (directly from God) therefore I am not trusting man over God. This is precisely the reason I don't trust you.

?2. Yes, I'm afraid to follow men. Therefore, believing the Holy Scriptures are in fact preserved by the Holy Spirit, I follow God, God's way.

I don't expect you to answer my questions. You are just THAT type of person.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#424883 Feb 27, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
CONTINUED
XXXXXXX
GOD,... THROUGH THE BLOOD OF JESUS HAS OFFERED YOU SALVATION
Col 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
Col 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
Col 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
-->JESUS WAS/IS THE IMAGE OF GOD....THE EXPRESSED IMAGE OF GOD'S PERSON.<--
Col 1:15 --> Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: <---
Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
Col 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
Col 1:20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
Col 1:21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled
Col 1:22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:
NOTE
Col 1:23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;
GOD FORBIDS STATUES IDOLS IMAGES IDOLS OF ANY CORRUPTIBLE MAN TO BE MADE IN HIS LIKENESS OR HIS SIMILITUDE...
~~~

Exo 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Exo 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

Exo 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Exo 20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

Deu_32:41 If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment;

NOTE.....

I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me.
Saban fan

Mobile, AL

#424884 Feb 27, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Why? Your misleading tactic still won't work.
<quoted text>
Your opinion of the Bible is not about the question I asked.
I asked you about how you find "Paul" more enlightened than Jesus, because you and all of Christianity, place more enlightenment on his texts, over direct sayings by Jesus.
Stop trying to play it any other way. These are the facts you refuse to acknowledge, which in turn, place the importance of the decision to use those letters by "Paul" over Jesus.
Nothing loaded about it, but it does hit right to the bone of HONESTY. Something that so-called "Christians" and their religion refuse to acknowledge as accurate.....
All because they believe in the men who CHOSE what they are to believe.
THIS IS FACT. Face it or continue to lie about it. You get to choose....SELF!
No religion required.
<quoted text>
Innuendo?
I don't think so.
Tell me what I've posted is "loaded with presumption".
While you are at it, please post the comparison to those texts that you think are not "loaded with presumption".
<quoted text>
Oh I've proven them - ten-fold.
You ilk seems to still be blind to the readily statements I've made.
Or you just plainly refuse to "look at links" just because they don't fit into your little arena.
"All scriptures are inspired by God" - 2 Timothy 3:16
- even your "Paul" agrees.
- nowhere does he specify specific books - only men have done this. You know, the men you follow and believe they told you the truth. They forgot parts.
<quoted text>
*watches Seban spin around blindly in confusion*
You'll get dizzy speaking like this. Maybe you should try something simple. Let's see if you can say these....
"Men wrote the Bible."
"God inspires everyone."
?1. Innuendo - an indirect intimation about a person or thing, especially of a disparaging or a derogatory nature.

?2. You have loaded a question with presumption when you claim that "I find "Paul" more enlightened than Jesus.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#424885 Feb 27, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
?1. Innuendo - an indirect intimation about a person or thing, especially of a disparaging or a derogatory nature.
?2. You have loaded a question with presumption when you claim that "I find "Paul" more enlightened than Jesus.
~~~

YOUR VAIN JANGLING DOES NOT EDIFY GOD.

1Ti 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.

1Ti 1:5 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:

==>1Ti 1:6 From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling; <==

1Ti 1:7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#424886 Feb 27, 2013
-->Your objectionable language is inappropriate here...it is an outward revelation of an inward rottenness

New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
--> No I didn't, as I am hoping that you have never did, so why bother with the bullshit.<--

Did you want to beat your wife? If so, please seek the right counselling.

<quoted text>
Yes, because you accept what men have dictated for what you are to believe. Why? Do you trust them over your Self and "God"? Why?
Pls note - you only believe what you do, because it is only what certain men wanted you to believe.
Your spin and double-talk will work with the Catholics, but not this guy.

<quoted text>
Imagine that - you get to make the choice on what to believe, but yet you stick with what men have told you to believe.
Why? What are you afraid of if you choose otherwise?
<quoted text>
I've chosen not to answer your questions, until you've answered mine - you know, those ones you said you have, but haven't.

~~~
YOUR VAIN JANGLING DOES NOT EDIFY GOD.

1Ti 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
1Ti 1:5 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:
==>1Ti 1:6 From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling; <==
1Ti 1:7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#424887 Feb 27, 2013
My apologies to you I answered the wrong post...
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
?1. Innuendo - an indirect intimation about a person or thing, especially of a disparaging or a derogatory nature.
?2. You have loaded a question with presumption when you claim that "I find "Paul" more enlightened than Jesus.

~~~

YOUR VAIN JANGLING DOES NOT EDIFY GOD.

1Ti 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.

1Ti 1:5 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:

==>1Ti 1:6 From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling; <==

1Ti 1:7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.
Saban fan

Mobile, AL

#424888 Feb 27, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah - yes....think-skinned. I didn't know you were so sensitive. Do you need me to use more comforting words?
Sorry - you won't get that from me.
But......the truth hurts, huh? It is also the first step in acknowledging the truth.
Maybe if you weren't dishonest with me or afraid to post an answer that defines your belief, you wouldn't be so frustrated.
<quoted text>
Losing ground?*looks at his feet*
Nope - all the ground is still there. What are you talking about? Your use of metaphors is poor.
<quoted text>
Oh - here it is....I was waiting.....me making statements is just judging, but yours is "righteous judging". I see now.
What a farce. What makes you righteous, if you follow only half of what Jesus taught, while the half you do follow - came from men?
Self-righteous is aptly more poignant for you.
<quoted text>
Why don't you believe Jesus?
(76) Jesus says:
(1) "The kingdom of the Father is like a merchant who had merchandise and found a pearl.
(2) That merchant is prudent. He sold the goods (and) bought for himself the pearl alone.
(3) You too look for his treasure, which does not perish,(and) which stays where no moth can reach it to eat it, and no worm destroys it."
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gth_pat_rob.htm
Don't put so much of your worth into "Paul" and you won't be so bold to think that you are righteous.
"The meek shall inherit the Earth."
- Nothing here about self-righteous judging, like you are doing.
What is think-skinned?(oops. I almost forgot you won't answer questions)

If either of the two of us is sensitive I would suggest it was the first to complain about the "judging", which was you. I was only highlighting your sensitive hypocrisy when you told me "shame on you" by pointing out the judgements you've made on me. No complaint here. You are the only one that voiced complaint. Are my words not comforting enough for you?(oops. I almost forgot you won't answer questions)

?1. You haven't proven any works outside of the Bible were inspired. If you did, it wasn't presented to me.

?2. I do. To suggest otherwise is continued presumption on your part.

You've never heard of righteous judgement?! As Jesus told the Jews in the temple on one occasion:“Judge not according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment”(John 7:24)

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#424889 Feb 27, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
QUESTION
Are you a son of God?
Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe/ to have faith (in, upon, or with respect to, a person or thing), that is, credit; by implication to entrust (especially one’s spiritual well being to Christ):- believe (-r), commit (to trust), put in trust with.
on his name:
Joh 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
We are all "sons of God".

This is Christianity 101 - you should know this, unless you are prejudice of others? Are you?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#424890 Feb 27, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
Are you a new creature in Christ Jesus?
2Co_5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature:
old things are passed away;
behold,
all things are become new.
Hmmm....."new creature" = spiritual change

Yes. Because I believe in ALL of what Jesus taught. Looks like you and many others, still have a ways to go.
Free Mind

Melbourne, FL

#424891 Feb 27, 2013
Disciple wrote:
Luke 10:18
King James Bible
And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/light...
lol

Satan would have made a far better point -- if he made lightning hit the lightning rod when there were no storm clouds in the sky.

Satan is such a wuss. Any spirit can claim credit during a lightning storm. I had hoped for better.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#424892 Feb 27, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
You want Questions ...Here's another Question
Me want questions? I'm sorry, no I don't. But am willing to answer them, after others I've directed mine too, will answer them.

You are avoiding my questions also. Why?
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you experienced the (Spiritual) Circumcision of your heart...and Spirit
Of course.

You will too if you accept all of what Jesus taught.

What are you afraid of

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#424893 Feb 27, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Which question? Why do I believe Paul over Jesus??
You are not paying attention.

"Why do you think "Paul" was more enlightened than Jesus?"

Or..."Why do you only accept less than six of the original 13 Apostles?"

Try to stay focussed.
Free Mind

Melbourne, FL

#424894 Feb 27, 2013
Francis wrote:
Wonderful days lie ahead for the faith! After all the wishy-washy ecumenical molly coddling that has gone on for decades, leading to such a grave weakening of her witness to the world, the Catholic Church finally has leadership that is no longer afraid to tell it as it is. 30,000 versions of heresy-ridden Christianity might well jump up and down (and rant and hurl abuse) at being told they are not "churches" but that shouldn't intimidate the Church from declaring Truth, any more than Christ's enemies could stop Him from proclaiming the same. Only Truth (who is the Christ) lasts forever - all else returns to dust. Praise the Lord!
I agree. The wishy-washy ecumenical molly coddling that has gone on for too long.

Who wants to be associated with any church in Australia that is being investigated for such hideous crimes?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#424895 Feb 27, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
Was was chosen by Jesus.

Who is "Was was"?

If you are referring to "Paul", well, "Paul" never met Jesus, so you are incorrect.
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
This is what those first century witnesses said, same as they accepted the virgin birth and miracles.

Men dictating what you are to believe. I already understand that part.
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
They were there as witnesses. You were not.
Ah yes - personal experience. Such a lovely aspect of human life.

Especially, when accounts are written decades later, and the human mind begins to fail.

I understand.

Why do you believe men again? Because they said they were witnesses?
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
Paul's books agree with the rest of the bible. The Catholic's apocrypha does not.
No they don't.

Citation please.
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
• Who wrote the NT books and when?
http://carm.org/wasnt-new-testament-written-h...
www.datingthenewtestament.com
Oh - so you'll avoid my questions by answering them with non-answers or something that hasn't to do with the question, and then right away ask me a simple question like this?

Simple minds require simple answers.

"wrote the NT books and when?"
- Men decades (even centuries) after the supposed events.

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