Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.
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Clay---just curious!! How often do you go to the Cathedral of St. Paul! I often go there from the West Minneapolis area for prayer intentions, Mass, prayer and confession!.... A number of years back, 3 of my children went to and graduated from St Agnes School, before Providence Academy was built. Always enjoy your comments. You have more patience than I do with these bible only editorializing "fundies"! Would like to meet up sometime! Thanks and Gods Blessing to you and your family during this season of Lent!!
Thanks HoJo
We're not dealing with normal Christians on here. Most people who've been presented with the evidence we Catholics have provided - uncovering the deception preached by them - would cease doing what their doing. I guess that's why I have more patience (but not always). I know that nothing will ever change them. They really really want to believe things about Catholics. In fact, they need to believe certain things to exist. When they are proven in error, it becomes more nasty. They'll scratch and claw for any Bible verse that will 'justify' what they think. example: " John, 6:63, flesh profits nothing. Our hands are washed"

Anyway, I attend the Cathedral every week for sure. I like the Sat morning 8 am daily mass. You can usually find me on the right side wearing a blue or black hooded sweat shirt looking kinda construction worker type.(Im almost always headed to a job on Saturday mornings, I have a side business remodeling commercial offices).
Plus, I'll occasionally attend an evening mass during the week. The Cathedral became my home parish for about 10 yrs now. Fr Joseph Johnson used to be the rector and I couldn't get enough of his preaching. So I became a member. He's gone now but i stayed there.
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Roman Church changed times & laws removing the second commandment about making no graven images.
Catholic Ten Commandments
www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catech...
Did you know the link you provided, proved your first statement wrong. Unbelievable.
You guys can't even be smart bigots.
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heaven upon us can be open..someone open
byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyy
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Where you liked hide yourself?
no place
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"If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me."

But 99.9999% want to take the easy way.

USA Catholics embrace the wealth, freedoms and rights of Protestant America, forsaking Jesus and the poor to the south.

So much for walking to so-called talk.

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Kill Priests of Other Religions.....

"Then Jehoiada made a covenant between the LORD and the king and the people that they would be the LORD's people. He also made a covenant between the king and the people. And all the people of the land went over to the temple of Baal and tore it down. They demolished the altars and smashed the idols to pieces, and they killed Mattan the priest of Baal in front of the altars. Jehoiada the priest stationed guards at the Temple of the LORD. Then the commanders, the Carite mercenaries, the guards, and all the people of the land escorted the king from the Temple of the LORD. They went through the gate of the guards and into the palace, and the king took his seat on the royal throne."

(2 Kings 11:17-19)

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Still afraid to answer the questions honestly, huh?

Can stand up to your Self?

So you continue to divert......
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So somewhere along the way man was able to get in the way of the inspired message God intended us to have?
Citation please.

Man doesn't have the capacity to understand "God". The RCC and Christianity, and every religion created does the same thing - they think they can define "God".

Arrogance is more adored in many ways - putting honesty aside.

I understand.
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Also, you seem to believe our infinite creator couldn't deliver us a message we could understand. How can you limit Him so?
I don't limit "God" - religions do.

I guess I just don't understand how you can believe certain texts, and only because of men, whereas, you refute still others.

Why does "God" need men to deliver a message int he first place?
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Your getting awfully close to exceeding Preston on the meter he's had a comfortable lead on for a while.
And what meter is that?

Are you judging me?
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BTW,It looked like you sent me to a link full of other links - after checking it more closely - you did.
....and they all have teachings by Jesus that you don't use.

Instead of just looking at the list, and actually reading them, they may give you the answers to why you believe "Paul" is more enlightened than Jesus......or maybe not.

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I answered you with an honest answer. You want me to lie?
Who's dishonest? The one that answers a question or the one that will not listen to and accept an answer and keeps asking the same question?
I must've missed it. Please supply me the link to your post that answers this:
"Why do you think "Paul" is more enlightened than Jesus?"
Yes - I am looking for honesty.

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Sounds like you want me to believe what YOU'VE decided. You a man?
No, I am asking you to believe in Jesus.

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You wrote:
What evidence is there that the book is inspired?
NONE....he has been told so MANY times....
Limiting "God" again "Truth"?

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If you own a Thesaurus you will notice there are several meanings of the word, dumb dumb! descended also can mean to arrive suddenly.
intransitive verb to become more evident or established, suddenly or by degrees i.e. An atmosphere of gloom descended on the assembled crowd. You're not as smart as you think! Remember the original bible wasn't in English. Most Bible readers assume the English translation of the Bible is an equivalent and exact representation of the original text. Because of the vast difference between the Ancient Hebrews' language and our own, as well as the differences in the two cultures, an exact translation is impossible.The difficult job of the translator is to bridge the gap between the languages and cultures. Since one can translate the Hebrew text many different ways, the translator's personal beliefs will often dictate how the text is translated. A translation of the Biblical text is a translator's interpretation of the original text based on his own theology and doctrine. This forces the reader to use the translator's understanding of the text.
Nice try...but no cigar.

Typical of Catholics.....look in an English dictionary to find the definition of a Greek word!!!!!

Descended: yarad, yaw-rad' to descend (literally, to go downwards; or conventionally to a lower region, as the shore, a boundary, the enemy, etc.; or figuratively, to fall); causatively, to bring down (in all the above applications); -X abundantly, bring down, carry down, cast down,(cause to) come(-ing) down, fall (down), get down, go(-ing) down(-ward), hang down, X indeed, let down, light (down), put down (off),(cause to, let) run down, sink, subdue, take down.
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I must've missed it. Please supply me the link to your post that answers this:
"Why do you think "Paul" is more enlightened than Jesus?"
Yes - I am looking for honesty.
That's a dumb statement. Everything quoted on Jesus in the Bible wasn't written by Him anyway. It was written by men, 30 -50 yrs after He died. To say we think Paul is more 'enlightened' is funny. It all flows together. Matthew and Marks memories of what Our Lord said, does not contradict Pauls writings.
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Thanks HoJo
We're not dealing with normal Christians on here. Most people who've been presented with the evidence we Catholics have provided - uncovering the deception preached by them - would cease doing what their doing. I guess that's why I have more patience (but not always). I know that nothing will ever change them. They really really want to believe things about Catholics. In fact, they need to believe certain things to exist. When they are proven in error, it becomes more nasty. They'll scratch and claw for any Bible verse that will 'justify' what they think. example: " John, 6:63, flesh profits nothing. Our hands are washed"
Anyway, I attend the Cathedral every week for sure. I like the Sat morning 8 am daily mass. You can usually find me on the right side wearing a blue or black hooded sweat shirt looking kinda construction worker type.(Im almost always headed to a job on Saturday mornings, I have a side business remodeling commercial offices).
Plus, I'll occasionally attend an evening mass during the week. The Cathedral became my home parish for about 10 yrs now. Fr Joseph Johnson used to be the rector and I couldn't get enough of his preaching. So I became a member. He's gone now but i stayed there.
Thanks Clay! I'll look for you on one of these Saturday mornings. You will find me wearing tennis attire--sweat pants-shirt, etc. as my full time occupation is, as a tennis pro and coach for Lifetime Fitness, in Minneapolis and will be heading to work after Mass. Look forward to meeting you and sharing more of our "rich and full" Catholic Faith, in Jesus Christ,------ being a former Protestant!!
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New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
Still afraid to answer the questions honestly, huh?
Can stand up to your Self?
So you continue to divert......
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Citation please.
Man doesn't have the capacity to understand "God". The RCC and Christianity, and every religion created does the same thing - they think they can define "God".
Arrogance is more adored in many ways - putting honesty aside.
I understand.
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I don't limit "God" - religions do.
I guess I just don't understand how you can believe certain texts, and only because of men, whereas, you refute still others.
Why does "God" need men to deliver a message int he first place?
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And what meter is that?
Are you judging me?
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....and they all have teachings by Jesus that you don't use.
Instead of just looking at the list, and actually reading them, they may give you the answers to why you believe "Paul" is more enlightened than Jesus......or maybe not.
NASL writes -- "Man doesn't have the capacity to understand "God". The RCC and Christianity, and every religion created does the same thing - they think they can define "God""

Most, but not every.

Otherwise, good point. Thomas Jefferson wrote similarly.

On board topic....

Oh how the Vatican hated him. I wonder if they freed him from "eternal despair" yet, since they changed their Catechism to allow for such?

Will the waffling RCC finally tell us the fate of 99% of America's founders?
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"Lent" another man made religious event.
Since your entire "bible only" self-interpreted beliefs are "ALL MAN MADE" --never believed by ANYONE until the 17th century---you Protestant originally "invented and created" the term (man-made) that describes "exactly what you have believed" for over 400 years!
The fact is, that "your "loss" as a bible only (half-truth) Protestant" is our "gain" as Catholics, IN THE SEASON OF LENT,(before Easter) as well as the SEASON ON ADVENT (before Christmas), because the "fullness" of the faith and the "fullness" of the truth,(for over 2000 years) has ALWAYS BEEN and WILL CONTINUE TO BE originated, formed and manifested, in Jesus Christ (ONLY) in and through His One True Catholic Church.
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Thanks Clay! I'll look for you on one of these Saturday mornings. You will find me wearing tennis attire--sweat pants-shirt, etc. as my full time occupation is, as a tennis pro and coach for Lifetime Fitness, in Minneapolis and will be heading to work after Mass. Look forward to meeting you and sharing more of our "rich and full" Catholic Faith, in Jesus Christ,------ being a former Protestant!!
A tennis pro? Wow. That's a sport that requires being in shape. Lol
I went to Saint Agnes a few times. That Parish is excellent. They do a Saturday morning traditional Latin Mass that I have gone to. I'll have to let you know the day before I'm going to Sat morning daily Mass at the Cathedral. Right now, this weekend looks iffy.

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Cathy the Catholic says:

we the remnant of Roman Empire own salvation through our sacraments because we used to rule the world with a rod of iron; now, do as we say and not as we do....or else!!!
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I must've missed it. Please supply me the link to your post that answers this:
"Why do you think "Paul" is more enlightened than Jesus?"
Yes - I am looking for honesty.
I have given you this answer several times yet you remain faithful to your strawman. Perhaps you can show me where I've stated Paul was more enlightened than Jesus, otherwise this is your strawman and highlights your intellectual dishonesty.
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hojo wrote:
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Since your entire "bible only" self-interpreted beliefs are "ALL MAN MADE" --never believed by ANYONE until the 17th century---you Protestant originally "invented and created" the term (man-made) that describes "exactly what you have believed" for over 400 years!
The fact is, that "your "loss" as a bible only (half-truth) Protestant" is our "gain" as Catholics, IN THE SEASON OF LENT,(before Easter) as well as the SEASON ON ADVENT (before Christmas), because the "fullness" of the faith and the "fullness" of the truth,(for over 2000 years) has ALWAYS BEEN and WILL CONTINUE TO BE originated, formed and manifested, in Jesus Christ (ONLY) in and through His One True Catholic Church.
What is important to me is the beliefs and worship practices I follow were practiced in the first century, something your leadership does not and cannot mirror.

This precisely captures my point about "Lent". A "religious" event started by men and nowhere highlighted in the Holy and inspired Word of God.

Oh, and now we will have to decide what to call this retiring pope. As usual we will make it up as we go since we have no biblical authority for the office in the first place.
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