Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 590323 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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preston

Waverly, OH

#424458 Feb 24, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
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I should've stated under the New Covenant.
Still, there's no evidence the thief had not experienced John's baptism.
According to St. John Chrysostom, the thief dwelt in the desert and robbed or murdered anyone unlucky enough to cross his path. According to Pope Saint Gregory the Great he "was guilty of blood, even his brother's blood; (fratricide)".[3][4][5]

The thief's conversion is sometimes given as an example of the necessary steps one must take to arrive at salvation through Christ: awareness of personal sin, repentance of sin, acceptance of Christ and salvation's promise of eternal life. Further, the argument is presented that baptism is not necessary for salvation since the thief had no opportunity for it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Dismas .

and everybody ; DONT BELIEVE THE WORDS OF CLAY. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT THIS NAME IS THE NAME OF THE MALEFACTOR. THIS NAME WAS GIVEN OVER 300 YEARS AFTER THE FACT AND IT ONE OF THEIR (TRADITIONS), NOT BASED ON BIBLICAL FACTS OR TRUTHS.
jose

Cebu, Philippines

#424459 Feb 24, 2013
Elizabeth wrote:
As someone who is catholic and was raised in the faith, I find this truly offensive that the Pope would make a statement like this. It is making me seriously consider leaving the church. As long as popele believe in God and the holy trinity, why does it matter whether they believe as catholics, methodists, lutherans, etc? I think Benedict has gone too far with this statement and I do believe it is going to hurt the catholic church in the long run.
I am a Catholic. I find it rather laudable. Why? The Pope, with his intelligence, cannot anymore refuse to accept the true Church founded by Jesus Christ 2000 yrs ago. No matter how much he thinks "it is not the case", he cannot change the truth by simply thinking "it is not the case". Cartesian thinking is a deception. Descartes says, "I think, therefore I am," meaning that thinking is the basis of whether he exists or not. In the same token, we cannot fashion a Church according to the way we "think" it to be. The pope has not gone too far; he has only voiced out -- what had been voiced out for centuries ago -- what the Church is as it is objectively in itself, not according to how many people "think" it should be. Before leaving the Church, it would be good to make first an exhaustive investigation of the history of the Catholic Church, with the history of philosophy (this is a great help). But, in the long run, it is the question of our souls that matters most. Let us not allow to lose it by allowing it to be disturbed and lost amid the havoc of this apocalyptic age. God bless!
jose

Cebu, Philippines

#424460 Feb 24, 2013
I am a Catholic. I find it rather laudable. Why? The Pope, with his intelligence, cannot anymore refuse to accept the true Church founded by Jesus Christ 2000 yrs ago. No matter how much he thinks "it is not the case", he cannot change the truth by simply thinking "it is not the case". Cartesian thinking is a deception. Descartes says, "I think, therefore I am," meaning that thinking is the basis of whether he exists or not. In the same token, we cannot fashion a Church according to the way we "think" it to be. The pope has not gone too far; he has only voiced out -- what had been voiced out for centuries ago -- what the Church is as it is objectively in itself, not according to how many people "think" it should be. Before leaving the Church, if there is a plan just because of this, it would be good to make first an exhaustive investigation of the history of the Catholic Church, with the history of philosophy (this is a great help). But, in the long run, it is the question of our souls that matters most. Let us not allow to lose it by allowing it to be disturbed and lost amid the havoc of this apocalyptic age. God bless!
preston

Waverly, OH

#424461 Feb 24, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Belief/Faith is not all, Marge...
worked for the guy nailed to across beside Him, works for me also.

we are to be Baptised because it is what Jesus desires for us to do, but I was saved by His Blood over 9 months before I was baptsied by Water.

and if you beleive that water baptsim ahs Saved you, when You die, you will then KNOW the TRUTH,

BUT IT WILL BE TO LATE FOR YOU THEN.

SAD BUT THAT IS THE WAY GOD PUT INTO THE PLAN OF SALVATION.

IT IS YOUR FAULT, NOT OURS. YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD. YOU LEFT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ( i THINK THAT YOU HAVE SAID THAT IN THE PAST, IF NOT i APOLOGIZE),

BUT I DONT APOLOGIZE FOR BEING TRUTHFUL WITH YOU ABOUT YOUR FALSE CHURCH
marge

Ames, IA

#424462 Feb 24, 2013
Clay wrote:
-"For I received from the Lord what I also deliver to you"
-"Do THIS in remembrance of me"
-"THIS is my Body"
-"He who partakes in the bread and wine unworthy, will be sinning against THE BODY AND BLOOD of the Lord"
youtube.com/watch...
Did you read in 1 Cor 11 how the corinthians were sinning against the body and blood of the Lord?
preston

Waverly, OH

#424463 Feb 24, 2013
StarC wrote:
My oh my.... we leave you protestant alone and you become more protestant.#witheachother.
God Bless Pope B-16!!
www.romereports.com/palio/saying-farewell-to-...
February 24, 2013,( Romereports.com )(-ONLY VIDEO-)
“The Lord is calling me 'out to the mountain' to devote more time to prayer and meditation, but this does not mean I'm abandoning the Church. In fact, if God is asking this of me, it's precisely to continue serving the Church with the same dedication and love with which I have served so far, but in a way that's more suited for my age and strength.”
--------Pope Benedict XVI
VATICAN CITY, Feb. 24, 2013
More than 100,000 pilgrims came to St. Peter's Square today to attend Pope Benedict XVI's last Sunday prayer and blessing. The crowd interrupted the pope several times with applause, but Benedict was business as usual.
Apparently he is not big on goodbyes.
This was the last time the world will see him in the window for his Sunday noon appointment with the faithful.
nothinjg has changed for us star,we still stand against false teachings, catholic or campbellites, or sda. whatever.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#424464 Feb 24, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>show us where Peter spoke in tongues when Jesus breathed on him and he received the Holy Ghost.
that gift is for the unbelievers to show them that it is Real. it doesnt mean that all people speak in tongues.
MY EXPERIENCE IS WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE AND NOTHING WAS SAID IN JOHN 7 37-39 THAT I WOULD SPEAK IN TONGUES AND I NEVER HAVE
John 7:39

39 By this he meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were later to receive. Up to that time the Spirit had not been given, since Jesus had not yet been glorified.

cross references:

Joel 2:28

28 “And afterward,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your old men will dream dreams,
your young men will see visions.

Acts 2:17

17 “‘In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.

Acts 2:33

33 Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear.

John 20:22

22 And with that he breathed on them and said,“Receive the Holy Spirit.

John 12:23

23 Jesus replied,“The hour has come for the Son of Man to be glorified.

Holy Spirit Baptism.....not a command to all men of all time.
preston

Waverly, OH

#424465 Feb 24, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
388
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You got my interest..
Quote: and no one can say that they were unsaved until jesus told them to Receive the Holy Ghost. I just dont believe that!
Are you saying because they were baptized by John, they were saved, and when they received the Holy Ghost, they were saved again???
not my fault if you get roiled.
Saban fan

Duluth, GA

#424466 Feb 24, 2013
marge wrote:
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One does not receive Salvation through water baptism Sabanfan, it is through faith in Jesus Christ alone.
Gal 3:21
He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.
Marge, he was talking to Christians. Those people at Galatia were already part of the Lord's church.

By faith they HAD received the spirit through baptism just as the 3000 at Pentecost did.(Acts 2:38).
Saban fan

Duluth, GA

#424467 Feb 24, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>then tell us how, Hank, you campbellites think you have all the answers.
which is WHY for all the years that you have been on here, that you have named PLENTY of people that received Salvation by being baptised ,right?
3000 received remission of sins through repentance and baptism in Acts 2:38
preston

Waverly, OH

#424468 Feb 24, 2013
Clay wrote:
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You think the thief might have been Baptized by John before being crucified?
Wow. So much for Sola Scripture. You guys like to speculate too much to be considered sola scripturist!
lol, have you ever heard of augustine. he was one of the founders of the early campbellite churches, didnt you know?

Augustine of Hippo does not name the thief, but wonders if he might not have been baptized at some point.[6]

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#424469 Feb 24, 2013
421
Fun Facts wrote:
I get the feeling that there are some that are drinking the holy water instead of just dipping their fingers in it!!!

"VIII. I Will Be Saved (future event)

Mark 16:16 – Jesus says whoever believes and is baptized will be saved.

Ain't that what I said?????
Saban fan

Duluth, GA

#424470 Feb 24, 2013
Clay wrote:
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You think the thief might have been Baptized by John before being crucified?
Wow. So much for Sola Scripture. You guys like to speculate too much to be considered sola scripturist!
I'm not the one of the two of us speculating.

You said he had not been baptized.

My statement was - who really knows.

Who's speculating here?
preston

Waverly, OH

#424471 Feb 24, 2013
Truth wrote:
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What have I to divert???
All of your answers are in the Word of God...
when will you show us from that Word, ONE NAME of any person saved by Water Baptised.

your church LOVES TO BRAG that it follows the complete teachings of that Word and YOU CANT FIND ME ONE LITTLE NAME.

HOW COME?

IS IT POSSIBLE THAT YOUR CHURCH REALLY DOESNT FOLLOW JESUS AND HIS WORD?

I THINK SO.

and the answer to an earlier question is no, and that question confirms when the heat gets turned up, you tried to divert by asking about a horse.lol
Saban fan

Duluth, GA

#424472 Feb 24, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>EVERYBODY.
Salvation comes from beleiving in Jesus Christa and Accepting His Sacrifice on the Cross of Calvary, when He shed His Blood for the sins of the Whole World.
the blood my fan, the Blood.
if is was only water, then His death was in vain. but the time came when the WORD of John Baptising for the remission of sin,
ENDED!!!!!!!!
how some time ago, old campbell and stone decided that they needed to go back in time and introduce Water Baptism again as the only way to gain admission into heaven.
and I must admit, that satan has reigned supreme in your church.SINCE THEN.
So no one was baptized under the new covenant?

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#424473 Feb 24, 2013
426
Saban fan wrote:
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Was I wrong to say our sin condemns us?
If our sins do indeed condemn us...we are all going to the devil's domain!!!!

Quote: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Tiger Lily

New Zealand

#424474 Feb 24, 2013


Thank you Constantine for starting the RCC and the Dark Ages when the Bible, the light to the world, was banned.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#424475 Feb 24, 2013
432
marge wrote:
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One does not receive Salvation through water baptism Sabanfan, it is through faith in Jesus Christ alone.
Gal 3:21
He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.
All.....none were baptized and then saved!!!!!
preston

Waverly, OH

#424476 Feb 24, 2013
Truth wrote:
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When you get yelled at and called names, a long time ago, why bother???
A person's mind is already made up then there is no sense of trying.....
dont go there FRIEND.

I aint the person that went searching on other forums to try and prove how vile a person named the rev and the cowboy wa.

and what did you find? you found me speaking out against some guy that was giving Griifey Jr. a rough time. and all becuase he actually was hurt and I defended him.

and I did it even tho his church affilation was as a catholic and i knew that, and you found out that even on the Jewish forum, that I stood for the Truth, and even my enemies respected me for that.

so {why bother}?

because you ,and your church, makes claims that cant be backed up by the Word of God.and for that reason and that reason only, I withstand you, other than that, I have a lot of respect for you and you know it.
Clay

United States

#424477 Feb 24, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
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I'm not the one of the two of us speculating.
You said he had not been baptized.
My statement was - who really knows.
Who's speculating here?
True. But I'm not the sola scripture guy. You are.

I concur he COULD have. But most of you guys believe if he was, it would say so in scripture.

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