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marge

Ames, IA

#424009 Feb 21, 2013
1 Corinthians 11:17-34

Order at the Lordís Supper

17 But in the following instructions, I cannot praise you. For it sounds as if more harm than good is done when you meet together. 18 First, I hear that there are divisions among you when you meet as a church, and to some extent I believe it. 19 But, of course, there must be divisions among you so that you who have Godís approval will be recognized!

20 When you meet together, you are not really interested in the Lordís Supper. 21 For some of you hurry to eat your own meal without sharing with others. As a result, some go hungry while others get drunk. 22 What? Donít you have your own homes for eating and drinking? Or do you really want to disgrace Godís church and shame the poor? What am I supposed to say? Do you want me to praise you? Well, I certainly will not praise you for this!

23 For I pass on to you what I received from the Lord himself. On the night when he was betrayed, the Lord Jesus took some bread 24 and gave thanks to God for it. Then he broke it in pieces and said,ďThis is my body, which is given for you.f Do this to remember me.Ē 25 In the same way, he took the cup of wine after supper, saying,ďThis cup is the new covenant between God and his peopleóan agreement confirmed with my blood. Do this to remember me as often as you drink it.Ē 26 For every time you eat this bread and drink this cup, you are announcing the Lordís death until he comes again.

27 So anyone who eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord unworthily is guilty of sinning againstg the body and blood of the Lord. 28 That is why you should examine yourself before eating the bread and drinking the cup. 29 For if you eat the bread or drink the cup without honoring the body of Christ, you are eating and drinking Godís judgment upon yourself. 30 That is why many of you are weak and sick and some have even died.

31 But if we would examine ourselves, we would not be judged by God in this way. 32 Yet when we are judged by the Lord, we are being disciplined so that we will not be condemned along with the world.

33 So, my dear brothers and sisters, when you gather for the Lordís Supper, wait for each other. 34 If you are really hungry, eat at home so you wonít bring judgment upon yourselves when you meet together. Iíll give you instructions about the other matters after I arrive.
truth

Australia

#424010 Feb 21, 2013
In matrix evil is long time ago.
preston

Waverly, OH

#424011 Feb 21, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
How are you doing Marge, we are just about popcycles up here, in the great white North of Canada. It has not stopped snowing for about a month. The storms are the worst I have seen in about 10 years or more.
How is your family ? hope all is well. God has really been blessing me with what He is doing in mine.
My son and daughter are doing great. God bless Love you sis
hey, you do gots an advantage over us down south. when you turn blue from the cold, no one can see that you might have varicose veins
Clay

United States

#424012 Feb 21, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
974
<quoted text>
"The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread, 24and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said,ďThis is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me.Ē 25In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying,ďThis cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.Ē 26For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lordís death until he comes."
When read in the literal sense...it teaches us to be cannibals...Christ never did such a thing!!!!
cannibal: A person who eats the flesh of other humans.
Don't tell me that. Tell Christ that. I already partook in the Eucharist, I'll go to my death defending it. I can't be convinced to walk away from it. I understand it completely Ox and you do not. Your minister it not in the Catholic Church, so it does no good for Him to try and have Holy Communion.
Clay

United States

#424013 Feb 21, 2013
marge wrote:
1 Corinthians 11:17-34
Order at the Lordís Supper
17 But in the following instructions, I cannot praise you. For it sounds as if more harm than good is done when you meet together. 18 First, I hear that there are divisions among you when you meet as a church, and to some extent I believe it. 19 But, of course, there must be divisions among you so that you who have Godís approval will be recognized!
20 When you meet together, you are not really interested in the Lordís Supper. 21 For some of you hurry to eat your own meal without sharing with others. As a result, some go hungry while others get drunk. 22 What? Donít you have your own homes for eating and drinking? Or do you really want to disgrace Godís church and shame the poor? What am I supposed to say? Do you want me to praise you? Well, I certainly will not praise you for this!
23 For I pass on to you what I received from the Lord himself. On the night when he was betrayed, the Lord Jesus took some bread 24 and gave thanks to God for it. Then he broke it in pieces and said,ďThis is my body, which is given for you.f Do this to remember me.Ē 25 In the same way, he took the cup of wine after supper, saying,ďThis cup is the new covenant between God and his peopleóan agreement confirmed with my blood. Do this to remember me as often as you drink it.Ē 26 For every time you eat this bread and drink this cup, you are announcing the Lordís death until he comes again.
27 So anyone who eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord unworthily is guilty of sinning againstg the body and blood of the Lord. 28 That is why you should examine yourself before eating the bread and drinking the cup. 29 For if you eat the bread or drink the cup without honoring the body of Christ, you are eating and drinking Godís judgment upon yourself. 30 That is why many of you are weak and sick and some have even died.
31 But if we would examine ourselves, we would not be judged by God in this way. 32 Yet when we are judged by the Lord, we are being disciplined so that we will not be condemned along with the world.
33 So, my dear brothers and sisters, when you gather for the Lordís Supper, wait for each other. 34 If you are really hungry, eat at home so you wonít bring judgment upon yourselves when you meet together. Iíll give you instructions about the other matters after I arrive.
Wow. And you still deny it...

Say, 1cor 11:34 "I'll give you instructions about the other matters after I arrive"

I wonder what matters Paul needed to instruct the Church at Corinth about. I guess we'll never know, because its not in the Bible. Oh well, It probably wasn't important then...
Saban fan

Duluth, GA

#424014 Feb 21, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
But you said 'Amen' because you agreed with 4gvn that the Bible is all that is necessary. Yet, you and 4gvn are poles apart on theology. Obviously, its ridiculous to agree with each other when the only thing you got in common is that you hate the Catholic Church.
I'm wondering just how different me and 4gvn are? I know I haven't read all of 4gvn's posts, but from the ones I've read I've been in agreement. Maybe you can point out the vast differences between us.
truth

Australia

#424015 Feb 21, 2013
cup or casa
a e i ou
acu ecu icu ocu ucu
''n''
necu=see hocu and necu=yes and no
http://bible.cc/matthew/5-37.htm
casa asa esa isa osa usa
i been spite many times i been pool many times as well rejected many times..

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#424016 Feb 21, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Ironman, I was very touch by your testemony. In fact it bought tears to my eyes.
cont
Thanks LTM. I had a very rough time as a young man! I now know that we must walk threw the hardship to learn and grow! A two year old child cried over his fathers grave screaming for him as he lied there under 30 years old! It was one of the hardest times in my life but it brought about change for me and a peace that runs deep within me. I still get teary eyed recalling that event but I trust God! I stand on a strong foundation and beleive God will always do and want whats best for us all. In order to become better Christians we must learn to be patient, humble, and accepting of others and thier differences. We must walk threw the hardship as we would walk threw the times of joy. Had it not been for my struggles I wouldn't be half the man I've become! I'm thankful for my experiences and thankful God choose to open my eyes. I have become a KNOWER! I know God is there guiding me! I believe in his word, I know he exsists and loves all his creations! We were created different but the same.Interestingly, when I lose someone close I'm sad but I also rejoice in the fact that God will recieve them. I believe in God! I believe he is loving,just, and will not hold us accountable for what we don't understand and thats alot!
Clay

United States

#424017 Feb 21, 2013
marge wrote:
1 Corinthians 11:17-34
Order at the Lordís Supper
17 But in the following instructions, I cannot praise you. For it sounds as if more harm than good is done when you meet together. 18 First, I hear that there are divisions among you when you meet as a church, and to some extent I believe it. 19 But, of course, there must be divisions among you so that you who have Godís approval will be recognized!
20 When you meet together, you are not really interested in the Lordís Supper. 21 For some of you hurry to eat your own meal without sharing with others. As a result, some go hungry while others get drunk. 22 What? Donít you have your own homes for eating and drinking? Or do you really want to disgrace Godís church and shame the poor? What am I supposed to say? Do you want me to praise you? Well, I certainly will not praise you for this!
23 For I pass on to you what I received from the Lord himself. On the night when he was betrayed, the Lord Jesus took some bread 24 and gave thanks to God for it. Then he broke it in pieces and said,ďThis is my body, which is given for you.f Do this to remember me.Ē 25 In the same way, he took the cup of wine after supper, saying,ďThis cup is the new covenant between God and his peopleóan agreement confirmed with my blood. Do this to remember me as often as you drink it.Ē 26 For every time you eat this bread and drink this cup, you are announcing the Lordís death until he comes again.
27 So anyone who eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord unworthily is guilty of sinning againstg the body and blood of the Lord. 28 That is why you should examine yourself before eating the bread and drinking the cup. 29 For if you eat the bread or drink the cup without honoring the body of Christ, you are eating and drinking Godís judgment upon yourself. 30 That is why many of you are weak and sick and some have even died.
31 But if we would examine ourselves, we would not be judged by God in this way. 32 Yet when we are judged by the Lord, we are being disciplined so that we will not be condemned along with the world.
33 So, my dear brothers and sisters, when you gather for the Lordís Supper, wait for each other. 34 If you are really hungry, eat at home so you wonít bring judgment upon yourselves when you meet together. Iíll give you instructions about the other matters after I arrive.
Its too bad Paul forgot to explain what he meant in his letter. The ol fellow just handed it out to everyone and then took off. They got it all messed up and actually thought the bread and wine were the real presence of Jesus Christ. Thankfully the evangelicals cleared it all up, and now teach what Paul was really saying to those Corinthians.
Saban fan

Duluth, GA

#424018 Feb 21, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
No inconsistencies on the Catholics here. In fact, I don't need to check anything they say. I know we'll be in communion with each other and in communion with someone on the other side of the world who I never met.
Can you guys say the same thing about each other?
Every 1st day of the week the church commemorates Jesus' sacrifice for us.'The church' meaning everyone worldwide "in Christ", His body, His Kingdom, until He comes again.
preston

Waverly, OH

#424019 Feb 21, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm wondering just how different me and 4gvn are? I know I haven't read all of 4gvn's posts, but from the ones I've read I've been in agreement. Maybe you can point out the vast differences between us.
trust me on this one. you are very different. and I dont even know you, but he has the filthiest mouth on this forum. I mean filthy and several have called him on it.not that he cares.
Clay

United States

#424020 Feb 21, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm wondering just how different me and 4gn are? I know I haven't read all of 4gvn's posts, but from the ones I've read I've been in agreement. Maybe you can point out the vast differences between us.
I'm going to bed.

I don't know all of the differences either. Heck, the born agains don't even agree with each other let alone you.
But I would start with Baptism. I doubt 4gvn thinks you were properly Baptized. You're not saved and going to hell as a result.
I dunno what to tell you, other than you are allies against Catholics until its just you and them
Then you beat each other over the head with your Bibles.
socci

El Dorado Springs, MO

#424021 Feb 21, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
Every 1st day of the week the church commemorates Jesus' sacrifice for us.'The church' meaning everyone worldwide "in Christ", His body, His Kingdom, until He comes again.

The baptism is the commemoration of the resurrection. Sabbath commemorates creation & Creator.
socci

El Dorado Springs, MO

#424022 Feb 21, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
If you are waiting for Christ to forgive you your sins....pack a lunch!!! It ain't gonna happen!!!!!

Mark 2:5 When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the sick of the palsy, Son, your sins be forgiven you. But there was certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts, Why does this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?

Since: Nov 08

usa

#424023 Feb 21, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Jethro,
I am so sorry that this is happening to you....
I have put you on our prayer list.....
I hope that you are feeling better now.....
Blessings!
yes i am thank you,i was given 10 bags of saline solution mixed with some other rehydration fluids for two days,i can't seriously understand what happened i did do alot of work that day clearing snow,but i drank 3 32 oz. bottles gator-ade plus water and had a rootbeer with dinner,and after that i had more water when i went to bed,granted i did get up and make a lot of trips but i didn't think it was that much to hurt me,i have no recollection of any of it,not until like i said i woke up on wedsnday,and i asked a nurse where am i and how did i get here? and being a lousy bit%&y nurse she told me nothing,the conditions in this hospital were deplorible no professionalism at all,my medications were sometimes 2 hrs late,i order breakfast at 7 a.m. if i was lucky i'd get it by 930-10:00 a.m. lunch was served at 3 and ordered at noon,dinner again was late all the time and all of it was barely edible,i wouldn't feed it to my dog,they are going to send me a questionare in the mail about my stay,i'm going to rip into them so bad there gonna regret we met,going to copy it and send it to the town paper explaining my experience and have them print my questionare in the paper i hope,from janitors to doctors,there was no professionalism what's so ever,it was like going to a hospital that uses old outdated equipment,,,cont

Since: Nov 08

usa

#424024 Feb 21, 2013
to truth:they gave me a cat scan on my head only to see if there was something wrong,mini stroke or something,they come back and told me i have an anurism i immediately jumped in said no i don't,i tried but failed,when the dr. told me that i just couldn't help but burst out laughing,i told him,doc i get 4 scans a year along with pet scan at a very well known respected organization (dana farber cancer ctr.)he knows the group and their reputation,no.1 in the northeast for cancer treatments and have a high survival rate i'm proof of that "6 yrs" and still going thanks to them and the great doctor i lucked out and got,his name is dr. rolph freter oncologist/radiologist,speaks 12 languages went to harvard,penn st,and clevland clinic which is another top rated cancer training cntr. my dr. now runs the clinic they built in my town,i give him and another dr. i have credit for saving my sorry ass (sorry). anyway i was doing the cat scan and the guy is yelling at me to stay still and look up at the machine,it was impossible because (couldn't believe this) saw dust was falling into my eyes,i took a close look at the machine it was a ct scan that was built back in the late 1960's the ones that used sawdust and rock salt inside to help rotate the camera or something i don't know,NOW dr comes back and says i apologize your right your scan came back perfectly clear,i said blurted out quickly and said i know,i was under stress and on the verge of an anxiety attack,i asked him you know anything about veins,blood vessels,capilaries? he says yes and snap back quickly no you don't,cause if you did you would of realized the viens in a body enlarge because of the fast blood flow,what you saw was an over worked vien that was probaly moving in an innormal manner,it's common,and besides there's no way in hell i'd even consider letting any doctor come near me with a pair of tweezers never mind a scapal,you are very very mistaken,i wouldn't let you guys remove a slinter from my dogs paw,im on a roll now,i'm stuck here in pain because of the stent in my kidney,and they doubted me!,i told them it hurts when it calcifies and i pee blood,and i'm stuck in bed with no medication was suppose to get it at 6 a.m. didn't show up till 8 a.m. your nursing staff either does not know her job or just doesn't care,not once in the two days in was there did i get my meds on time,one nurse bitched at me telling it was to early,i told her you gave me my first dose at 11:50 a.m my next dose is suppose to be 6 hr later 5:50 pm and she said no i was wrong i was an hour early,again i repeated the times,she left came back i'm so sorry sir,you were right,i got my meds.i couldn't believe all thiswhen i left i said i walked over the the nurses station and risking a punch in the face, i spoke right out, and said and i quote "in the past 6 yrs that i have had cancer,i've been to a few different hospitals,and i got the best care immaginable,this place here is the most unproffessional group of dr's and nurses and nurses ades that i ever came across,the conditions here are not fit to bring a sick goat in here,granted you can't update this place equipment wise but your attitude and proffesionalism does not exist,you people are a joke in the field of medicine,goodbye and may we never cross paths again unquote.for the record the hospitals name is brockton city hopspital brockton,mass.i do not recomend you go there for any reason..cont.
truth

Australia

#424025 Feb 21, 2013
Your Creator left seal on your hand.
How many Creator you have?

No you don't liked your real and first Creator.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#424026 Feb 21, 2013
Justice wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry to hear of you health and relationship troubles. Hang in there and keep the faith. There is a sunny day out there somewhere.
thank you, i have faith in me,i bounce back quick,i will rebuild my body and mind put the bad behind me and enjoy the next adventure that comes along and challenges me.i consider myself a warrior, meaning no matter what happens i go down fighting till the last drop of blood&energy i have left in my body, i will not roll over and quit.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#424027 Feb 21, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Jethro, I am glad you are ok, but sorry for you troubles.
Peoples emotions make them do strange things. I hope she comes back. The dog no doubt will miss you also this is a sad situation.
Wish I could be there for you Jethro besides on this thread.
I pray this won't send you on a downward spiral. Please don't let it ok.
don't worry LT,i'll be ok, thanks and you are here with me,you are a friend and i draw strength from knowing that.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#424028 Feb 21, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm going to bed.
I don't know all of the differences either. Heck, the born agains don't even agree with each other let alone you.
But I would start with Baptism. I doubt 4gvn thinks you were properly Baptized. You're not saved and going to hell as a result.
I dunno what to tell you, other than you are allies against Catholics until its just you and them
Then you beat each other over the head with your Bibles.
Clay to each his own. Maybe that's your opinion and thats wonderful! I never recieved anything from a Catholic church but God did change my life and heart which is nothing short of amazing Grace. You're looking at things in a distorted way. Nobody asked you to do anything and you shouldn't tell others what to do! Nor should you cast stones while standing in a glass house! Let God be the judge of whats best for his people not the Pope or you! Have a little consideration for others and know they believe in Jesus too! They just don't praise God in the same manner as you! Does that make them bad Christians or wrong? LET GOD DIRECT HIS PEOPLE TO WHERE HE WANTS THEM AND RELAX. I'm thankful God doesn't think or act like you! You can be recieve all the communions and Baptisms in the world but that doesn't mean you have salvation! You haven't a clue to what God says about other denominations nor does your Pope know what God thinks! So stop pretending and let GOD BE GOD! He loves us like a father loves his son! My child is different then me, makes mistakes, but I still love him and would never deny him! Remember we are created in Gods likeness!Stop being so self-righteous! You are not better than anyone else bc the Pope told you that Catholics are!

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