I'm not seeking your approval. I'm seeking scriptural justification for you to say so BOLDLY that baptism has no role in saving.<quoted text>
4gvn is my brother, the vast difference we have with you is that you believe water baptism had any role in saving you Sabanfan, we can't get past that and receive you as family.
Please don't use verses like John 3:16 to back up that statement. Show me why it was so unimportant for all of the people that believed a statement like John 3:16 was true, to still obey the command to be baptized. If it is of no use, why do it?
Why did Jesus do it?
Why did Paul do it?
Why did the 3000 at Pentecost do it?
Why did Lydia do it?
Why did the Eunuch do it?
Why did the jailor do it?
Why was it even mentioned if it plays no saving role?