Roman Catholic church only true churc...

Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 701622 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Clay

Garden City, MI

#423800 Feb 20, 2013
Free Mind wrote:
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Clay, once again you take something simple and confuse it.
Duh!!!!! The word catholic means "universal."
Most Protestants defend the fact that Jesus started a UNIVERSAL church -- not the RCC.
Yes, Methodists use the term "catholic" in their creed -- but they do so with the traditional interpretation of "universal."
No Protestant believes Jesus stated the Roman Catholic church, except maybe your phony protestant friend.
THINK Clay!!! If they acknowledged the RCC as the only true church, then they wouldn't be Protestants would they!
DUH!!!!!!!!!!
Check your facts. They do.

Martin Luther: "we must concede to the Papist, that they have the word of God, we received it from them and without which, we would have no knowledge of it at all"

Pssst free, papist are the RCC.

Also my ex neighbors were Methodist (started by John Calvin) they do not deny the lineage from Pope Benedict to Saint Peter. True Protestants do not ignore basic history 101. although they deny the Papacy itself.

Your evangelical buddies invented something about 'Catholic' with a small c - separate from Roman Catholic. They like to re- write history like they do Christianity.

Learn to be a an accurate bigot Mr Free..
Clay

Garden City, MI

#423801 Feb 20, 2013
ironman77 wrote:
hey don't offer hands free garentees to heaven, Dumb Dumb! Where do you get your facts from? Continue in your self-rightousness and see how far it gets you! Hahahah, Hands free garentee that is so stupid to say! What an ass clown!!!!!
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Ok Iron Man 77 *thumb and pink extended*
Rock on dude!

Lol

You become so-called 'born again'. Right?

You get saved? Right

Once saved always saved. OSAS. Right?

You can never lose that salvation, no matter what you do. Right?

Sounds like a hands free guarantee trip to Heaven to me. Sign me up! No more boring church. No more confession. I can get a divorce or have an afair.
Free Mind

Melbourne, FL

#423802 Feb 20, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Check your facts. They do.
Martin Luther: "we must concede to the Papist, that they have the word of God, we received it from them and without which, we would have no knowledge of it at all"
Pssst free, papist are the RCC.
Also my ex neighbors were Methodist (started by John Calvin) they do not deny the lineage from Pope Benedict to Saint Peter. True Protestants do not ignore basic history 101. although they deny the Papacy itself.
Your evangelical buddies invented something about 'Catholic' with a small c - separate from Roman Catholic. They like to re- write history like they do Christianity.
Learn to be a an accurate bigot Mr Free..
Clay, you keep contradicting yourself.

Start here and work backwards -- they wouldn't be Protestants if they were talking about the RCC as any kind of "only true" church in the eyes of Jesus. They are simply acknowledging an historical reality.

As for your mythical Methodist friends, how do they deny the papacy itself, yet somehow as you claim accept "the lineage from Pope Benedict to Saint Peter?"

Take your meds.
7th Day Catholic Rocks

Poplar Bluff, MO

#423803 Feb 20, 2013
Russian Orthodox American wrote:
The priest Mikhail Shuvar was beaten severely by Catholic Thugs in Ukraine which led to an early death for him from his injuries.
http://02varvara.wordpress.com/2009/12/08/a-w...
yes sounds just like them.
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#423804 Feb 20, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>lol, I am not a campbellite like saban and hank. even saban by nw knows that my docrine is that of the Holiness Beliefs9(second definitve Work of Grace). maybe you read where I said that my wife sings by herself without any music. she likes to wait on the Lord and if he gives her the Blessing to sing , she sings, and by that I mean she stands up in the pew testifys alittle bit about how Good God is to her and then she Blesses Him by singing her Praise to her.which is something that you people never do, I guess.
as far as the Last Supper, I disregard any lies taught by your church, concerning the actual Words of Jesus. ANY IDIOT KNOWS THAT HE WAS SPEAKING SPIRITUALLY, WHICH IS WHY YOU ARE A CATHOLIC AND I, ON THE OTHER HAND AM SAVED.
Atemboy: "I disregard any lies taught by your church, concerning the actual Words of Jesus. ANY IDIOT KNOWS THAT HE WAS SPEAKING SPIRITUALLY, WHICH IS WHY YOU ARE A CATHOLIC AND I, ON THE OTHER HAND AM SAVED."

I don't know, Preston. Used to I might have thought that He was speaking spiritually too. But now after your convincing description of those holes opening up in your belly and that water flowing out on your bed from those holes keeping the bed dry, is all giving me doubts...
7th Day Catholic Rocks

Poplar Bluff, MO

#423805 Feb 20, 2013
POPE RESIGNS! Gangnam Style Prophecy Fulfilled!



http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#423806 Feb 20, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok Iron Man 77 *thumb and pink extended*
Rock on dude!
Lol
You become so-called 'born again'. Right?
You get saved? Right
Once saved always saved. OSAS. Right?
You can never lose that salvation, no matter what you do. Right?
Sounds like a hands free guarantee trip to Heaven to me. Sign me up! No more boring church. No more confession. I can get a divorce or have an afair.
THE ONLY GUARENTEE IN LIFE IS DEATH!! I DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS AND NIETHER DO YOU OR ANYONE ELSE! I DON'T PRETEND TO EITHER NOR DO I PRETEND TO BE BETTER THAN YOU! ALL I KNOW IS I HAVE TO TRY TO BE HUMBLE, LOVING,SELFLESS,OBEDIANT, AND HONEST! I DO MY BEST BUT FALL SHORT DAILY AS I HAVE EVEN TALKING TO YOU AND OTHERS ON THIS SITE. IT'S EASY TO REVERT BACK TO MY SELFISHNESS AND HARD TO ADMIT MY WRONG DOINGS BUT I DO AND I SEEK FORGIVENESS AND TRY TO CHANGE! I'M NOT PERFECT AND I DON'T BELIEVE ANYONE IS GUARANTEED A SEAT IN HEAVEN BUT I CHOSE TO LIVE RIGHT BC ITS RIGHT NOT BECAUSE I WANT ANYTHING IN RETURN!!!

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#423807 Feb 20, 2013
7th Day Catholic Rocks wrote:
<quoted text>yes sounds just like them.
It sounds like you and clay have it all figured out so why argue. Maybe your right and obviously you believe you are! IT'S not that Christians believe they are guarenteed anything its we have faith in our God and believe in his promises! We also fall short daily but we chose to dust ourselves off, ask for forgiveness, and move forward trying to do better! We are not as perfect as you apparently or your church! But thats ok I'll take them over your type of beliefs any day!

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#423808 Feb 20, 2013
There is nothing humble, selfless, or loving about the statement your pope has made! I hope someday he realizes its not the church thats important. Its how you live, act, and treat others that brings you to salvation! Walking in the footsteps of Christ is not creating tention between his children! It's not about whos better its about walking in Love no matter the situation or obsticle! Remember Jesus said the least will come first not the powerful, not the Pope, not the one with the biggest ego or church! So think what you will and good luck!

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#423809 Feb 20, 2013
I wouldn't concern yourself with my salvation1 It's not going to even be a factor in your life! I'd worry about your attitude toward others and your abvious edipus complex!
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok Iron Man 77 *thumb and pink extended*
Rock on dude!
Lol
You become so-called 'born again'. Right?
You get saved? Right
Once saved always saved. OSAS. Right?
You can never lose that salvation, no matter what you do. Right?
Sounds like a hands free guarantee trip to Heaven to me. Sign me up! No more boring church. No more confession. I can get a divorce or have an afair.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#423810 Feb 20, 2013
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Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok Iron Man 77 *thumb and pink extended*
Rock on dude!
Lol
You become so-called 'born again'. Right?
You get saved? Right
Once saved always saved. OSAS. Right?
You can never lose that salvation, no matter what you do. Right?
Sounds like a hands free guarantee trip to Heaven to me. Sign me up! No more boring church. No more confession. I can get a divorce or have an afair.
There is a new book on the market...it is called "Bible"..get one and read it!!!!

God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
socci

Cameron, MO

#423811 Feb 20, 2013
David McIntyre wrote:
Long Live the Pope, the Successor of St Peter Our Rock!

Christ alone is our mediator. Paul clearly points this out in 1 Timothy 2:3-6.

"This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony borne at the proper time."


The Roman Church claims to found itself upon ONE verse in the Bible:

Mt 16:18 "And I say also to you, That you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

Nowhere does it say there would be a Catholic Church.

Jesus is the rock the church / Christianity is founded upon.

Mk 12:10 "And have you not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner:"


Peter's remains are not in Rome since he never went to Rome. In fact his grave has been found in Jerusalem. The End.


<FIN>
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#423812 Feb 20, 2013
David McIntyre wrote:
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Dear "Guest"
You can shoot off quotes from Holy Scripture until the cows come home. But the fact is that your or my OPINIONS and PREFERENCES for the meaning of Scripture are irrelevent.
What IS important is the ACTUAL meaning of Scripture. We know this by examining the writings of the EARLY CHURCH.
They were Catholic on every point.
Most significantly, the Early Church of the New Testament times, whilst greatly loving Sriptures immensley, TOTALLY REJECTED a system of Private Interpretation. Their final authority was the teaching Church which Christ promised to guide until the end.
Private interpretation by it's very nature leads to continual division.
Every Protestant claims to have arrived at the truth through Bible reading. So which of the 60,000 (and growing) Protestant groups would you have people join??? The suggestion that Christ would abandon his promise to guide the Church in truth until the end, and then replace this with a system in which his truth comes in thousands of versions is absurd!!!
Long live the Successors of St Peter and the Apostles.
You refuse to believe that the Holy Spirit could precisely preserve God's Will for Christian's lives without the church of Catholic's approval. All while paying to maintain your memorials to men that are headstones of human history. Your mantras, rituals, ceremonies, catechisms, creeds, manuals and disciplines, none of which are biblical are simply shrines to Apostacy. What is not understood about the church being the people, the Christians, not the power? Remember the Tower of Babel designed to "make a name for ourselves" (Gen. 11:1-9)? Yet, Catholics invest their money in ungodly distractions and worldly profane idolatrous displays such as opulent, ornate cathedrals, basilicas, and shrines. Religious relics that serve as monuments and memorials to men.(Acts 17:24-25, 29) The church is not for men's glory. Your Bishops THRONE on a raised platform highlights the absurdity of the perverse display put on of one that was intended biblically to be a servant of the flock. Forcing a sprinkling or pouring baptism on innocent infants, worshipping Jesus' mother, inventing new positions of influence never biblically hinted to within the framework of the church Jesus died for, having nuns, and the expectation of them and priests both to abstain from their natural tendencies to raise their own families and from enjoying their created body to its fullest as if such would be sinful.

Honestly, I cannot think of any group claiming Bible-based Christianity that has its anchor set further from sound biblically-based theology than the church of Catholics. From what I can tell it has replaced Christ's church's true intention for the worship of itself by its members as it 'acts' the part of the Holy Spirit. The false-teaching my Bible warns me about (2 Cor. 11:13-15, Deut. 4:2, 2 John 1:9, 1 Cor. 4:6, Gal1:8, Col. 2:20-23).
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#423813 Feb 20, 2013
David McIntyre wrote:
<quoted text>
Dear "Confrinting with the World"
You state that "you follow the Sinless One", and Catholics can "sing the praises of corruptble men in Rome".
Catholics simply follow Jesus through the Church he established and promised to guide until the end. Jesus knew men are imperfect and would sometimes fail. It comes down to trust in Christ's promises. See who is following the Sinless One now??? You need to trust Christ,rather than your own interpretaions of Holy Scripture.
Your PREFERENCES for the meaning of Scripture are irrelevent. What IS important is the ACTUAL MEANING of Scripture. We know the actual meaning of Scripture by examining the writings of the EARLY CHURCH. They were undisputably Catholic on every point of belief.
The Early Church of New Testament times, greatly loved the Scriptures but TOTALLY REJECTED your system of Private Interpretation. Their final authority was the teaching Church which Christ promised to guide until the end.
Private Interpretation by it's very nature, leads to continual division. Every Protestant claims to have arrived at the truth through Bible reading. They all believed they are correct.So which of the 60,000 (and growing) Protestant groups would you have people join???
The suggestion that Christ would abandon his promise to guide the Church in truth until the end, and then replace this with your system where the truth comes in thousands of versions is absurd!!!
Your interpetations of are of no value. They have no divine guarantee. Your system of Private Interpretation is simply the invention of some men in the 1500's who were supported by rulers who wanted to rule without the Church's influence, and get the Church's money.
Hope this helps.
Long Live the Successor of St Peter. We Catholic's love Christ's Church and the Truth of The Holy Scriptures.
Dave McIntyre
I think it would be interesting to see your guarantee of divine value behind the church of Catholic's private interpretation of scripture!
socci

Cameron, MO

#423814 Feb 20, 2013

The Antichrist

The Bible doesn't say the "little horn" is a man, but rather that it would have "eyes like the eyes of a man" (Daniel 7:8). When Paul used the expression, "the man of sin," in 2 Thessalonians 2:3, he was simply referring to the "little horn" with its "eyes like the eyes of a man." Yet that same horn is called a "beast" in Revelation 13:1, and the Bible clearly tells us that a beast represents a great kingdom (Daniel 7:23).


“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#423815 Feb 20, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
All of this -----"I don't believe" malarkey of yours--- is nothing but "your own personal opinionated uncertainty!!!--It is ALL-MAN MADE by New Age, himself!!!! If you don't believe (quote) "that men have the ability to discern what God can or cannot do" ----then how can you "a self appointed- mans opinion" conclude that yours is the truth!! You, therefore, are putting yourself "above God". The Early Church Fathers,(through the prayful communion --- inspired direction of the Holy Spirit, formed the Canon of Scripture in 382, 393, and 397 AD,took over 350 years to compile, discuss, ponder,translate and prayfully discern the truth of the documents, letters, parchments, manuscripts from the Apostoles.-
Yes!!-----I/We as Catholic believe-ALL what Jesus taught---but not what you Protestants "think HE taught" by using each one of your "self-apppointed" 42,000 contradicting and inconsistent beliefs to arrive at some "hodge-podge" conflicting interpretations of the bible...... The TRUTH of the TRUE interpretation of the bible (has not changed) since 397 AD. Your 42,000 self-appointed (relative truth) popes --have not, nor will ever change the FULLNESS of the TRUTH that has existed for 100's of years in and through Jesus Christ and His One True Catholic Church!!!
Just for your notes:
- I do not place myself above "God" or any deity - known or unknown.
- you DO NOT believe in ALL of what Jesus taught, otherwise, it would be included in the Bible, and other formats that are considered "inspired truth". Stop lying about this, because it only shows your dishonesty more and more.
- I'm not a Protestant, so please stop claiming I am.

You definitely have a problem being honest.
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#423816 Feb 20, 2013
If only you Catholics could go back to the good old days when common folks couldn't read God's Word for themselves and recognize your perversions and distortions of it.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#423817 Feb 20, 2013
Russian Orthodox American wrote:
The Roman catholic church is an evil institution bent on destroying everything in it's path. It's dark history, since it broke from the REAL Church Started by Jesus and the Apostles {Orthodox}, proves this fact. Patriarch Kyril of Moscow will still not allow a Roman Pope on Russian soil until they quit their murdering of Orthodox Christians in the Ukraine and the Carpathians. Catholics still kill Orthodox in the Carpathians of Ukraine. The True story of Talerhof Catholic concentration camp at link below
http://02varvara.wordpress.com/2012/01/27/the...
Uh-Oh!! I can see you aren't in communion with the RCC.

......watch out - here comes the Catholics.
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#423818 Feb 20, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok Iron Man 77 *thumb and pink extended*
Rock on dude!
Lol
You become so-called 'born again'. Right?
You get saved? Right
Once saved always saved. OSAS. Right?
You can never lose that salvation, no matter what you do. Right?
Sounds like a hands free guarantee trip to Heaven to me. Sign me up! No more boring church. No more confession. I can get a divorce or have an afair.
Is an afair one of those kids the priests are attracted to?
socci

Cameron, MO

#423819 Feb 20, 2013

The Image of the Beast

Some seek to identify the papacy as the beast of Revelation. However, Daniel 7:24 clearly tells us "the fourth beast is the fourth kingdom". Then what was the papacy's Roman empire? The holy roman empire.

Rev 13

sea beast = holy roman empire

Then what is the 'image' of the holy roman empire?

Rev 13

Following the sea beast rose the beast from the earth.

sea beast = old world order

earth beast = new world order

Rev 17

Understand Rev 11, 13 & 17 all go together for this period of history. The earth beast is then found in chapter 17 as the '8th head'.

sea beast = 7th head

earth beast = 8th head


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