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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 646940 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#423589 Feb 19, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
Galatians 1:8, 2 Cor. 11:13-15, Deut. 4:2, 1 Cor. 4:6, Col. 2: 20-23 (self-made religion), 2 John 9
Heb. 11:4 (God had given His instructions, His will, to them. One did not fully obey)
Numbers 19:2 (specific instruction eliminates everything else) Gen. 6:4, Lev. 10: 1-2 (notice, which He had not commanded them), Exodus 25:12-14 (later David didn't move it in this manner (2 Sam. 6: 3-7)- wasn't good - it was sinful (2 Chron. 15:13), Neh. 7: 63-64 'silence' on the matter did not give 'consent'.
If not specified, unauthorized.
These Bible verses have "absolutely--(nothing to do) with what I asked you--(a typical bible only "ploy" of deception,and mis-interpretation of the TRUE meaning of Sacred Scripture!
I'll repeat the question again--before you continue on with another one of your Protestant "rants of anti-catholic heresy" that you "fundies" are so famous for!!

Furthermore, where does it say "in the bible" that every word, every phrase,every sentence MUST be in the bible in order for it to be true. Also, where does it say "in the bible" that God chose to transmit his inspired and infallible word, "ONLY" in the bible"?
The fact is NOWHERE!! This is an "invented, concocted, made-up myth that you bible only "buffoons" have created "on your own, in an attempt to "rewrite biblical and historical (church history) TRUTH, that has existed for over 2000 years. The fact is that "the Church came first---then the bible (more than 350 years after Jesus initiated His first Church at Antioch!!It was the Jesus Christs One True Universal Church--the Catholic Church --that gave you the bible that you mis-interpret, mis-quoted and (spin) to your own "demise and destruction".

You Saban, are just "another one" of the 42,000+ contradicting, inconsistent and conflicting (hodge-poodge) of bible interpretation (or better yet MIS-INTERPRETATION)!-One personal opinion after another that have become "experts" at distorting the TRUTH of the TRUE interpretation of bible verses, manipulating the TRUTH of TRUE Apostolic Church History and spreading anti-catholic heresy that has been "unsuccessfully" tried attempted and "miserably failed" for over 2000 years, beginning with the Arian Heresies in the 3rd century. God is not, nor ever will be the author of your (bible only) Protestant "confusion and chaos"!!
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#423590 Feb 19, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly!
I have been waiting a long time for someone to state this.....finally....
A quick study of likenesses (OT to NT) I've enjoyed:

OT Physical NT Spiritual
Physical Kingdom Spiritual Kingdom
Israel church
Bondage in world Bondage in sin
Deliverance Deliverance
through Red Sea through the Blood
Old Law given New Law given
Moses Christ
Mt. Sinai Mt. Zion
wanders in wonders in
wilderness wilderness of sin
Nourished Nourished
on Manna on The Word
40 years 1000 years
reaching reaching
Jordan 2nd coming
Promised Land Promised Land
Canaan Heaven

PHYSICAL SPIRITUAL

God's plan to redeem man. Christ fulfilled the Old Law and established the New. A method whereby mankind can be spiritually acceptable to God.
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#423591 Feb 19, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
These Bible verses have "absolutely--(nothing to do) with what I asked you--(a typical bible only "ploy" of deception,and mis-interpretation of the TRUE meaning of Sacred Scripture!
I'll repeat the question again--before you continue on with another one of your Protestant "rants of anti-catholic heresy" that you "fundies" are so famous for!!
Furthermore, where does it say "in the bible" that every word, every phrase,every sentence MUST be in the bible in order for it to be true. Also, where does it say "in the bible" that God chose to transmit his inspired and infallible word, "ONLY" in the bible"?
The fact is NOWHERE!! This is an "invented, concocted, made-up myth that you bible only "buffoons" have created "on your own, in an attempt to "rewrite biblical and historical (church history) TRUTH, that has existed for over 2000 years. The fact is that "the Church came first---then the bible (more than 350 years after Jesus initiated His first Church at Antioch!!It was the Jesus Christs One True Universal Church--the Catholic Church --that gave you the bible that you mis-interpret, mis-quoted and (spin) to your own "demise and destruction".
You Saban, are just "another one" of the 42,000+ contradicting, inconsistent and conflicting (hodge-poodge) of bible interpretation (or better yet MIS-INTERPRETATION)!-One personal opinion after another that have become "experts" at distorting the TRUTH of the TRUE interpretation of bible verses, manipulating the TRUTH of TRUE Apostolic Church History and spreading anti-catholic heresy that has been "unsuccessfully" tried attempted and "miserably failed" for over 2000 years, beginning with the Arian Heresies in the 3rd century. God is not, nor ever will be the author of your (bible only) Protestant "confusion and chaos"!!
If you are correct you should be able to easily dissect any or all of the following that suggests you are completely wrong:

Galatians 1:8, 2 Cor. 11:13-15, Deut. 4:2, 1 Cor. 4:6, Col. 2: 20-23 (self-made religion), 2 John 9
Heb. 11:4 (God had given His instructions, His will, to them. One did not fully obey)
Numbers 19:2 (specific instruction eliminates everything else) Gen. 6:4, Lev. 10: 1-2 (notice, which He had not commanded them), Exodus 25:12-14 (later David didn't move it in this manner (2 Sam. 6: 3-7)- wasn't good - it was sinful (2 Chron. 15:13), Neh. 7: 63-64 'silence' on the matter did not give 'consent'.

If not specified in God's Holy scripture, unauthorized.
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#423592 Feb 19, 2013
7th Day Catholic Rocks wrote:
<quoted text>The roman sect become just like the Israelites that wantd and earthly King over them and your Pope is Just like King Saul was an ungodly man with pagan sinful beliefs that is anti-christ.
More of your "made up, invented and concocted"(anti-catholic) distorted "personal opinion" Protestantism. You are just another bible only "what I (want) the bible or Church History to mean" Protestant heretics that "thrive on" venting your animosity, hostility and vengeance against over 2000 years of the PROVEN TRUTH of Jesus Christ and His One True Apostolic Catholic Church.
LTM

Marathon, Canada

#423593 Feb 19, 2013
Justice wrote:
<quoted text>
If you take a strict literalist view then the the brazen serpent and the golden cherubim on the Ark of the Covenant were also idolatry.
They difference here is God Commanded that the Ark of the covenant be made to His clear instructions.
The Brazen Serpent was destroyed because people were bowing to it.

There is also the 2nd commandment not to make idols and bow to them.
Did the people of Israel worship the mercy seat, which is the ark of the covanant. no

What is the Ark of the Covenant?
In Genesis, God had Noah create an ark—a sanctuary for some of those things God had placed man in charge of, namely animals. In Exodus, God gave Moses instructions for a different type of ark. An ornate box that was to hold some of the law God had given the Israelites to be in charge of: the Ten Commandments. It was also a marker for where the presence of God would rest and where God would talk to His people.

The Ark of the Covenant was a different kind of religious symbol than the Israelites were used to. It was not a statue meant to represent the physical manifestation of a god. It was not a container for God—it was to be respected but not worshiped. Instead, it was a place where God and man could meet. Both literally, as God would hover over the Ark when the priests approached it, and figuratively through the law that was kept inside. That law was the stone tablets on which the Ten Commandments were written (Deuteronomy 10:2). These commandments were key in the covenant for which the Ark was named. If Israel followed the Ten Commandments and, as they represented, the rest of the Law God gave to Moses, God would always be in their presence.

In Exodus 16:32-33, Moses told his brother Aaron to take a jar of manna and place it before the Ark as a remembrance of how God provided for the Israelites. In Numbers 17:1-11, as a way of validating the choice of Aaron for High Priest, God made Aaron's staff grow buds, flowers, and almonds. God then told Moses to put Aaron's rod "before the testimony." Hebrews 9:4 is a bit confusing. It appears to say that the manna and the rod were inside the Ark. Looking more closely, however, the passage says the manna and the rod were inside the Holy of Holies (verse 3), which 1 Kings 8:9 confirms.

The Ark of the Covenant was basically a box with an ornate top. It was made of acacia wood, overlaid with gold. Four cast gold rings were fastened to the feet. Long poles fit through the rings so the priests could carry the box—the only method of transport authorized (1 Chronicles 13:7-10).(Of course, pure gold could not have held the weight of the ark, but if refining techniques were more primitive, the gold would not have been as pure.)

The lid was called the "mercy seat." On the lid were two gold cherubim, facing each other, with wings spread upward and covering the seat. God's presence hovered above the seat, between the cherubim, when He talked to the priest. It's possible that God used the wings to protect the priest from seeing His glory (see Ezekiel 1).
Moses had the Ark of the Covenant built while the Israelites were still wandering the desert. When the priests weren't carrying it, it was held in the Holy of Holies in the Tabernacle. After Solomon built the Temple, it was moved there. Save for occasional visits to the Philistines (1 Samuel 4:3-11), the home of Obed-edom the Gittite (2 Samuel 6:1-11), and the Israelite army (2 Samuel 11:11), the Ark usually stayed in the Temple. At some point it disappeared, and by the time the Babylonians took the Jews into captivity, the record of its location was lost. The Apostle John recorded in Revelation 11:19 that he saw the Ark in the temple in heaven.
Jeremiah 3:15-18 talks about a time when the Ark will no longer be needed or missed. At that time, the Jews will freely and completely follow God. Jerusalem, itself, will be God's throne. We will no longer have to hide from God's presence behind angels' wings, real or gold.
Justice

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#423594 Feb 19, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>..
I will get to heaven while you will go to hell.
plain and simple.
That depends on the state of your soul and my soul at the moment of our respective deaths.

If you think you are just saved for mouthing a few words, you are wrong. Plain and simple.
LTM

Marathon, Canada

#423595 Feb 19, 2013
"Why is a bronze serpent used to save the Israelites in Numbers 21:8-9?"

Answer: Throughout the wilderness wanderings of the Israelites, God was constantly teaching them things about Himself and about their own sinfulness. He brought them into the wilderness, to the same mountain where He revealed Himself to Moses, so that He could instruct them in what He required of them. Shortly after the amazing events at Mt. Sinai, God brought them to the border of the Promised Land, but when the people heard the reports from the spies, their faith failed. They said that God could not overcome the giants in the land. As a result of this unbelief, God sent them into the wilderness to wander until that generation died out (Numbers 14:28-34).

In Numbers 21, the people again got discouraged, and in their unbelief they murmured against Moses for bringing them into the wilderness. They had already forgotten that it was their own sin that caused them to be there, and they tried to blame Moses for it. As a judgment against the people for their sin, God sent poisonous serpents into the camp, and people began to die. This showed the people that they were the ones in sin, and they came to Moses to confess that sin and ask for God's mercy. When Moses prayed for the people, God instructed him to make a bronze serpent and put it on a pole so the people could be healed (Numbers 21:5-7).

God was teaching the people something about faith. It is totally illogical to think that looking at a bronze image could heal anyone from snakebite, but that is exactly what God told them to do. It took an act of faith in God's plan for anyone to be healed, and the serpent on the stick was a reminder of their sin which brought about their suffering. There is no connection between this serpent and the serpent which Satan spoke through in the Garden of Eden. This serpent was symbolic of the serpents God used to chastise the people for their unbelief.

A couple of additional lessons are taught in the Bible regarding this bronze serpent. The people did get healed when they looked at the serpent, and the image was kept for many years. Many years later, when the Israelites were in the Promised Land, the serpent became an object of worship (2 Kings 18:4). This shows how easy it is for us to take the things of God and twist them into idolatry. We must never worship the tools or the people God chooses to use, but always bring the honor and glory to God alone.

The next reference we find in the Bible to this serpent is in John 3:14. Jesus indicated that this bronze serpent was a foreshadowing of Him. The serpent, a symbol of sin and judgment, was lifted up from the earth and put on a tree, which was a symbol of a curse (Galatians 3:13). The serpent lifted up and cursed symbolized Jesus, who takes away sin from everyone who would look to Him in faith, just like the Israelites had to look to the upraised symbol in the wilderness. Paul is reminding the Galatians that Jesus became a curse for us, although He was blameless and sinless—the spotless Lamb of God.“God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God”(2 Corinthians 5:21).
gotquestions.org
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#423596 Feb 19, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
If you are correct you should be able to easily dissect any or all of the following that suggests you are completely wrong:
Galatians 1:8, 2 Cor. 11:13-15, Deut. 4:2, 1 Cor. 4:6, Col. 2: 20-23 (self-made religion), 2 John 9
Heb. 11:4 (God had given His instructions, His will, to them. One did not fully obey)
Numbers 19:2 (specific instruction eliminates everything else) Gen. 6:4, Lev. 10: 1-2 (notice, which He had not commanded them), Exodus 25:12-14 (later David didn't move it in this manner (2 Sam. 6: 3-7)- wasn't good - it was sinful (2 Chron. 15:13), Neh. 7: 63-64 'silence' on the matter did not give 'consent'.
If not specified in God's Holy scripture, unauthorized.
Lets put it this way! First of all, I was raised a "bible only" Protestant and left after 35 years of the same old "contradicting, conflicting and confused" bible (supposed)-true interpretation of Sacred Scripture.(4 denominational (splits) due to inconsistent interpretations of the Bible. After 3 years of Church History research, 3 years of bible pre-theology seminary study, prayer and contemplation, seeking the TRUTH, Our lord directed me to HIS (One Truth)(not 42,000 personal opinion -half-truths). "There is ONLY ONE TRUTH"-----and that TRUTH is in the TRUE Gospel of Jesus Christ manifested in and through His historically and biblically PROVEN One True Apostolic Catholic Church. Sorry---but I am not going to "waste my time" debating or discussion (your own-"what I think" interpretation-along with 42,000 other bible only Protestant-"what I think opinions"!(It is a total waste of my time! My time is better spent in Prayer, at Daily Mass, abiding in the Gospel readings and receiving Jesus Christ each day, in the eucharist!!If you truly desire the TRUTH then read the Catholic Catechism, the Encyclicals or the Apologist historian authors and writers (both Catholic and Protestant). Again--God is not, nor ever will be, the author of your Contradicting Protestant confusion and chaotic mis-interpretation of the bible.
Free Mind

Melbourne, FL

#423597 Feb 19, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Crap isn't "Holy" Dan, this is very offensive to a born again Christian which you clearly are not.
Almighty God is the only one who should have the word Holy before His name .
It is intended to offend.

His faith is weak. He is here to validate it somehow, but it isn't working, so he attacks the messenger.

Obviously he cannot refute, so he makes personal attacks.

The RCC has obviously NOT lived up to its lofty claims. There is zero real-world, provable evidence to support the RCC claims and much to contradict. That is painful for him, so he reacts in the only way he knows how.

I don't believe he started here like that.
truth

South Perth, Australia

#423598 Feb 19, 2013
in at er
retina=sto imas u oku

https://www.google.com.au/search...

log is not mother Mary milk
please understood me
Justice

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#423599 Feb 19, 2013
LTM wrote:
quotation..gotquestions.org
gotquestions is a fundie site and presents the protestant fundamentalist worldview.
truth

South Perth, Australia

#423600 Feb 19, 2013
mum
sto imas u oku

https://www.google.com.au/search...

mum

log is not mother Mary milk
remember
Yahchanan

Piedmont, OK

#423601 Feb 19, 2013
Understanding only comes from from the reverence of The creator Yahweh. And or the great spirit. You will never gain it by worshiping A man Made god And this is A fact but yet the world will not turn from their god worship.

The words lord god Baal were added to his name because the divine reverence of his name was believed to be to holy to be spoken so man changed his name and made him A god HE IS NOT A GOD!!!!!

And you will cause them to forget my name And the world has.

The roman catholick church knows this and allows this to continue.

They changed the feast days gave them up for pagan holidays Changed the sabbath from Saturday to Sunday.

The roman catholick church Is the woman that sits on seven hills named after seven different gods.And is with out A teacher but for Satan and changes the scriptures with trial and error.

Do not add or take away from from his word And they have.....They helped do away with the wonderful laws 613 of them that most can not even keep ten.I know their are great catholicks And great Christians but very few....

Yahweh can change your life And give you all the understanding you need but you must worship him as your heavenly father Yahweh And understand he is not A god.

Scripture says understanding only comes from the reverence of the creator this means to keep the law.I hope some one will understand this .....

May Yahweh bless each And everyone of you.
Justice

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#423602 Feb 19, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
My time is better spent in Prayer, at Daily Mass, abiding in the Gospel readings and receiving Jesus Christ each day, in the eucharist!!
Good point
Justice

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#423603 Feb 19, 2013
I wonder if the anti catholics acept that the Catholic church came before the Bible and put the Bible together at the end of the 4th century.

food for thought...

"The Bible came out of the Catholic Church around the end of the 4th century. The Synods of Hippo, 393 A.D., and Carthage, 397 A.D.,and later, Carthage 419 A.D.,(along with the Traditional Bible or Latin Vulgate, 406 A.D., by Saint Jerome),gave us the canon of Sacred Scripture"
endtime

AOL

#423604 Feb 19, 2013
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----#---- NEXT POPE is ANTICHRIST



.
truth

South Perth, Australia

#423605 Feb 19, 2013
mum
sto imas u oku
https://www.google.com.au/search...
mum
two heart
only one remind
who is remind is not with you mum
its cross over

mum
do you understood what i drove
no mum
you don't understood
mum
i just remind you
''n''
ad id
an en in at un
er

be good mum
truth

South Perth, Australia

#423606 Feb 19, 2013
nevaehheaven
n evaehheave n
where is your y
not exist

don't speak with me please

sto imas u oku
draga mama sto imas u oku
two heart one remind
i remind you
mum what you have in your eye
i remind you
trun nije gospino mliko=log is not mother Mary milk

mum
two heart
only remind
mum
i personally remind you
log=chips..mum
please understood me
mum mum mum
do you understood me=razumis li
razum
https://www.google.com.au/search...
truth

South Perth, Australia

#423607 Feb 19, 2013
nevaehheaven
n evaehheave n
as you can see
no y

draga mama
sto imas u oku
dva draga srca
samo te jedno upozorava

two heart
only one remind
i personally remind you
no mum
i know you read
truth

South Perth, Australia

#423608 Feb 19, 2013
Did you dream dear mother?
Yes I am my son.
What you dream mum?
I see my son
nothing exist in this city..nowhere?!

mum
don't make me cry every night every day
mum
please
What you have in your eye?
https://www.google.com.au/search...

two heart
only one remind

I remind you mum.
I personally remind you.

Who going do that mum?
Why?
please mum do you understood meaning
oh
''n''
I personally remind you.

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