Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Read more
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#422616 Feb 14, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>so you think that jesus is a liar?
yet you think that peter is right when he tells you to get baptised and you will received the holy ghost without repenting?
I know my experience is readl and I know that your lies are just that lies.
r u the person that tried to get me kicked off? after all, you are teh only newbie and the others have known me for years and this hasnt happened since 08.lol
By the way, Peter never said you could get baptized and receive the Holy Ghost without repenting. And I never would've said he said that. I've posted the Acts 2:38 over and over and over...
If you would only read the verse for yourself Peter doesn't skip over *repent*. It's all in there.

You attitude and credibility is all you have, Preston.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#422617 Feb 14, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
In Jesus Christ OWN -SPOKEN---EXPRESSED--and STATED words HE said "Upon this rock I will build "MY CHURCH"!!!!!(MATT 16:18
OK-----so it is up to YOU to prove that it is NOT---- HIS CHURCH!!!
Peter ...HIMSELF WROTE ABOUT JESUS..

IN


1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

1Pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

1Pe 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

YOU NEGATE THE SCRIPTURES WRITTEN BY THE ONE WHOM YOU CLAIM IS YOUR LEADER...

YOUR obsession and CONFUSION OF MIND IS OBVIOUS TO ALL...true believers in Jesus Christ the Son of God...
truth

Perth, Australia

#422618 Feb 14, 2013
YOU NOT HONOR ME NOT LOVE ME

evil upon evil liars upon liars

please say who is Creator..

you are man not God
truth

Perth, Australia

#422619 Feb 14, 2013
nobody going destroy church

church will be stay as aliveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee in billions people

they will be converted on last moment before be to lateeeeeeeeeeeeeee
if??????????
someone left in lifeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#422620 Feb 14, 2013
Justice wrote:
<quoted text>
what about Isaiah 22:22
"And I will place on his shoulder the key of the house of David; he shall open, and none shall shut; and he shall shut, and no ne shall open."

~~~

Compare this Scripture with the above ...

Both SCRIPTURES were/ARE in reference to JESUS.

Isa_9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and
==>the government shall be upon his shoulder:<=== and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

The book of Isaiah is a book of Messianic prophecies..

~~~~~~~~~
Peter was not/is not of the House/linage of David..

How could Isa 22:22 be referring to Him as the first pope?

Read what the verse says
"And I will place on his shoulder

-->the key of the house of David;<-- he shall open, and none shall shut; and he shall shut, and no ne shall open."

Jesus was called the son of David

Mar 12:35 And Jesus answered and said, while he taught in the temple, How say the scribes that Christ is the Son of David?

Mar 12:36 For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The LORD said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Mar 12:37 David therefore himself calleth him Lord; and whence is he then his son? And the common people heard him gladly.

PETER WAS NEVER CALLED THE SON OF DAVID...
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#422621 Feb 14, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
Peter ...HIMSELF WROTE ABOUT JESUS..

YOU NEGATE THE SCRIPTURES WRITTEN BY THE ONE WHOM YOU CLAIM IS YOUR LEADER...
YOUR obsession and CONFUSION OF MIND IS OBVIOUS TO ALL...true believers in Jesus Christ the Son of God...
AND YOU NEGATE THE SCRIPTURES "SPOKEN" BY THE ONE WHO "IS" THE MESSIAH, THE SON OF GOD, JESUS' OWN, SPOKEN, STATED AND EXPRESSED WORDS!!!!!Your bible only CONTRADICTING Protestant CONFUSION and CHAOS, IS OBVIOUS TO "ALL" true believers and followers of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who worship, proclaim, follow and adhere to HIS TRUE SPOKEN WORDS,-----("IN THE GOSPEL")---- each day, at "Daily Mass" in His One (and only TRUE) Apostolic Catholic Church, "the Bride of Christ"!!
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#422622 Feb 14, 2013
Yahchanan wrote:
<quoted text>It is not his church it is satans.the woman who sits on seven hills named after seven different gods.And has changed the ordnance's the laws the sabbath the feast days.and is the evilest church in the world.Teaches nothing but lies.Yahweh takes no part in the evil of the Vatican. But your man made god might....
What has this church done other than lie....and commit sins.
Typical Protestant "distorted reply"! It is interesting how you "conveniently" insert the word (Catholic) into the book of Revelations, where-ever and when-ever "it fits into" your anti-catholic hostile, and vengeful "bible only" heretical beliefs.
The TRUTH of Jesus Christs(biblically and historically PROVEN One True Apostolic Catholic Church has, is and will continue to be thee "way, the TRUTH, and the life" despite the Protestant lies, distortions and deceit that have (unsuccessfully attempted to undermine) the Catholic Church, for over 500 years)-----YET-----
THE CHURCH LIVES ON!! and will CONTINUE TO LIVE ON Because Jesus HIMSELF---said it would in Matt 16:13-21
7th Day Catholic Rocks

Poplar Bluff, MO

#422623 Feb 14, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Typical Protestant "distorted reply"! It is interesting how you "conveniently" insert the word (Catholic) into the book of Revelations, where-ever and when-ever "it fits into" your anti-catholic hostile, and vengeful "bible only" heretical beliefs.
The TRUTH of Jesus Christs(biblically and historically PROVEN One True Apostolic Catholic Church has, is and will continue to be thee "way, the TRUTH, and the life" despite the Protestant lies, distortions and deceit that have (unsuccessfully attempted to undermine) the Catholic Church, for over 500 years)-----YET-----
THE CHURCH LIVES ON!! and will CONTINUE TO LIVE ON Because Jesus HIMSELF---said it would in Matt 16:13-21
Percy said you left being Catholic and all.
Some more of his lies.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#422624 Feb 14, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
AND YOU NEGATE THE SCRIPTURES "SPOKEN" BY !!!Your bible only CONTRADICTING Protestant CONFUSION and CHAOS, IS OBVIOUS TO "ALL" true believers and followers of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who worship, proclaim, follow and adhere to HIS TRUE SPOKEN WORDS,-----("IN THE GOSPEL")---- each day, at "Daily Mass" in His One (and only TRUE) Apostolic Catholic Church, "the Bride of Christ"!!
~~~
YOU WROTE

THE ONE WHO "IS" THE MESSIAH, THE SON OF GOD, JESUS' OWN, SPOKEN, STATED AND EXPRESSED WORDS!!

YEP... JESUS SAID

Mat 16:23 But he turned, and said unto Peter,

--->Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. <---

QUESTION

How could such a person as Jesus described above ...be the rock on which Jesus built His Church?

WHY DO YOU READ YOUR OWN INTERPRETATION INTO MATTHEW 16:17-19..

YET YOU PAY NO MIND TO MATTHEW 16:33....

THE SAME JESUS

that SAID

Mat 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.


Mat 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

also said

--->Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. <---

Now which one was/is Peter...

the Rock OR satan...

If what you allege is true...He would have to be both...

If we take Matthew 16:17-19 literally according to your interpretation

then we have to also take Matthew 16:33 literally..

You can't take one...in what you claim to be it's context and ignore the other ....
truth

Perth, Australia

#422625 Feb 14, 2013
Why you laying Holy Spirit?

liars from beginning
evil upon evil
liars upon liars
truth

Perth, Australia

#422626 Feb 14, 2013
we not care

evil upon evil

justice are under evil power
its not justiceeeeeeeeeeeee

who are you that you can claim what is not belong to you..possessor deceiver..find yourself there.
truth

Perth, Australia

#422627 Feb 14, 2013
its open

book start spining with heart
i fi;ll Crown around my head
i listen what say

its open
who can open

byyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

liars as false justice i don't liked

evil upon evil
corruption upon corruption

wicket can't have holy ticket
byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
concerned in Eygpt

Aberdeen, UK

#422628 Feb 14, 2013
Adam wrote:
<quoted text>
Not true protestant churches have lots of teachings outside of the Bible. For example the main doctrines such as the trinity and incarnation are based on Catholic creeds.
Of course its about private interpretation. You just dont like to face the facts that you are in rebellion because of your unauthorised traditions and in rebellion with the catholic church.
The Doctrine of the Trinity is 100% biblical. It is accepted by Evangelical Protestant churches on that basis alone. If it were not biblical and only something that came about like the Papacy some 700 years later that can not be defended or justified Biblical texts it would have been rejected by Evangelical Protestants as we Reject the Papacy as it is not found in the Bible let alone the first 700 years of christendom and did not take its full from as it is today till he Great Schism of 11th century.

Those are the Facts

Again no its not about private interpretation, its about Sola Scriptoria only using scripture as the basis for doctrine not man made tradition.

God Bless
marge

Ames, IA

#422629 Feb 14, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
By the way, Peter never said you could get baptized and receive the Holy Ghost without repenting. And I never would've said he said that. I've posted the Acts 2:38 over and over and over...
If you would only read the verse for yourself Peter doesn't skip over *repent*. It's all in there.
You attitude and credibility is all you have, Preston.
Hey Saban fan, the problem is one does not receive the Holy Ghost from water baptism.

John tells us Jesus will baptize us with His Spirit and He is in Heaven, therefore that Baptism(the One that counts) does not come from water but from God only.

Your doctrine is no different than the catholics calling down Jesus to the wafer.
truth

Perth, Australia

#422630 Feb 14, 2013
we not care what you say not at all

we know they going into pit.

now

i am as i am
i never care to much what other think or say not at all..
ucen u ljubavi skucen
ucen=diploma scribe Pharisee

ljubav=love

you can't serve to many masters
how many Gods you have
don't have another God before me
even if you suffer
marge

Ames, IA

#422631 Feb 14, 2013
7th Day Catholic Rocks wrote:
<quoted text>Percy said you left being Catholic and all.
Some more of his lies.
Then your Not saved?

How can you sleep or worship with hatred for a brother in your heart?

I questioned you with the filth you posted but thought you were a new christian and when rebuked you would have repented and seen your wrong.

I pray you are a new christian.
truth

Perth, Australia

#422632 Feb 14, 2013
because he don't have nothing with real Creator
7th Day Catholic Rocks

Poplar Bluff, MO

#422633 Feb 14, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Saban fan, the problem is one does not receive the Holy Ghost from water baptism.
John tells us Jesus will baptize us with His Spirit and He is in Heaven, therefore that Baptism(the One that counts) does not come from water but from God only.
Your doctrine is no different than the catholics calling down Jesus to the wafer.
Marge if he was CALLED nd drawn but god do you really think he did not recieve the Holy Spirit as well. The Bible says those who believe repent and are baptised shall recieve the Hoy Ghost. It is also commanded to do water baptism as well.
concerned in Eygpt

Aberdeen, UK

#422634 Feb 14, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus never called himself "God" - why should so-called "Christians"?
<quoted text>
Speculation. Could be plausible to say that this was an alien abduction witness by others?
What proof outside the Bible that shows that this is possible?
<quoted text>
Self.
<quoted text>
Incorrect.
The "gospel" is Jesus stating that the Spirit lives on after we die.
The belief you stated was defined in or about 325 CE by men, not by Jesus or "God".
<quoted text>
....and according to this ancient text - "God" was a mistake.
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/apocjn-long.htm...
<quoted text>
Only in the minds of men.
Self.
<quoted text>
History has recorded many virgin births, Jesus was just one.
Do you believe Mithras was born of the virgin Isis? You should, as he was a "savior" as well.
What about Krishna, which was another virgin birth?
Are you saying that Jesus was the only legitimate one?
How do you know?
BTW - Self is where you are now in your thinking.
<quoted text>
Unfounded Christianity. Who would have thought.
Good job with pointing out the many faults in Christianity.
New Age Spiritual Leader

This forum is to debate the merits of the assertion that the RCC is the one true church.

If you wish to go to the Christianity forum and debate the above I would be glad to you would be easy pickens.

However over the years all I have seen you do here is try to stir the poo poo.

With regards to your first assertion Jesus never said he was God yes he did it is Biblical if you wish to make a proper thread for this let me know and I will be there.

For Now let me show you are a biblical dumb dumb.

Exodus 3:14 (NASB95)
14 God said to Moses,“I AM WHO I AM”; and He said,“Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel,‘I AM has sent me to you.’”

John 8:58 (NASB95)
58 Jesus said to them,“Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am.” you can not say it any clearer Jesus clearly says he is the I AM the name God gave himself in the OT.

Who did John say Jesus was

Jn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Jn 1:2 He was with God in the beginning.
Jn 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
Jn 1:4 In him was life, and that life was the light of men.
Jn 1:5 The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.
Jn 1:6 There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John.
Jn 1:7 He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe.
Jn 1:8 He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.
Jn 1:9 The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world.
Jn 1:10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him.
Jn 1:11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him.
Jn 1:12 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God—
Jn 1:13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.
Jn 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

Who did Paul say Jesus was

Colossians 2:9 (NASB95)
9 For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form,
7th Day Catholic Rocks

Poplar Bluff, MO

#422635 Feb 14, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
Then your Not saved?
How can you sleep or worship with hatred for a brother in your heart?
I questioned you with the filth you posted but thought you were a new christian and when rebuked you would have repented and seen your wrong.
I pray you are a new christian.
If you believe a hole opened up in his belly and literal water come out you are more ignorant of scripture than I thought.
Do you find anywhere in scripture that being a case of recieving the the Holy Spirit. The Living Water id the Spirit of Truth and that is what will proceed out the belly and heart/mind. His Holy Word washed away the old man and renews the mind guided by the Holy SPirit.

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