Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Everyone on here claims to know the truth but i have yet to see one person reverence the creator....understanding only comes from the reverence of the creator.Yahweh....

In fact everyone who reads scripture interpenetrates if from their own mind.....And most are wrong.
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I will nominate this as the third most asinine statement I have seen on this forum!!! Quote: but 3 days later dumps his life long jewish faith, and starts an entirely new belief system that does not include the jews.
According to all misled Catholic, this is where He built His Catholic Church: Mt 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.{Peter: this name signifies a rock}..
This was while He still lived!!!! He had not been crucified, died, buried, and risen yet!!!????
Matthew 27:11 below.......

....Now Yeshua ("Jesus") stood before the (Roman) governor Pilate. And the governor asked Him, saying, "Are You the King of the Jews?" Yeshua (Jesus) said to him, "It is as you say."

......Joseph of Arimethea, who took custody of Yeshua's (Jesus) body, was Jewish.(Luke 23:50-52) and he laid the body in his own new tomb (Matt. 27:59-60). Therefore, Yeshua (Jesus) was buried in a Jewish cemetery. He was also buried according to Jewish custom/tradition of the time, buried before sundown.(John 19:40). Without doubt, Jesus died a Jew.


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His aunt Elizabeth was a jew, as was his uncle Zachariah. Jesus was circumcised as per jewish custom.

Matthew 2:2 (Mattityahu 2:2)

..."Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we have seen His star in the east and have come to worship Him."



Being a Jew is not only ones religious belief but its your heritage culture if born and raised in a jewish state. People born in Scotland are for ever scottish no matter what religion they change to or whatever country they move to.

Once a cultural jew always a jew.

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Jesus never spoke of denominations, only Catholics do.
Whether or not you consider yourself a Protestant, you still are, because you are not Catholic, and there isn't any other options in Christianity - only Catholicism and Protestantism.
Unless you have a word for the SBC belief. SBCism?
C'mon Oxbow, you aren't that ignorant, right?
BTW - to even call yourself "Christian" is a false label you've applied, too. One will have to beleive in all of Jesus to claim all of this title....and you don't.
I know of no one who ever enlisted in the military and listed "Protestantism" as his/her religion.

Show me a Marriage License or Certificate that shows "Protestantism" as a person's religion....

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Matthew 27:11 below.......
....Now Yeshua ("Jesus") stood before the (Roman) governor Pilate. And the governor asked Him, saying, "Are You the King of the Jews?" Yeshua (Jesus) said to him, "It is as you say."
......Joseph of Arimethea, who took custody of Yeshua's (Jesus) body, was Jewish.(Luke 23:50-52) and he laid the body in his own new tomb (Matt. 27:59-60). Therefore, Yeshua (Jesus) was buried in a Jewish cemetery. He was also buried according to Jewish custom/tradition of the time, buried before sundown.(John 19:40). Without doubt, Jesus died a Jew.
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His aunt Elizabeth was a jew, as was his uncle Zachariah. Jesus was circumcised as per jewish custom.
Matthew 2:2 (Mattityahu 2:2)
..."Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we have seen His star in the east and have come to worship Him."
Being a Jew is not only ones religious belief but its your heritage culture if born and raised in a jewish state. People born in Scotland are for ever scottish no matter what religion they change to or whatever country they move to.
Once a cultural jew always a jew.
What does that have to do with:

I will nominate this as the third most asinine statement I have seen on this forum!!! Quote: but 3 days later dumps his life long jewish faith, and starts an entirely new belief system that does not include the jews.
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I know of no one who ever enlisted in the military and listed "Protestantism" as his/her religion.
Show me a Marriage License or Certificate that shows "Protestantism" as a person's religion....
lol, guess that you ahve never worn a set of 'dog tags' since they have your religion stamped on them and the govt wouldnt know what religion that you were if you didnt tell them when youw went in.

during the ww2,and the 1st iraqi war, the jewish soldiers were asked if they would like to change theirs in case they were captured. this is a fact.

dumb ox fits you perfectly
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I will nominate this as the third most asinine statement I have seen on this forum!!! Quote: but 3 days later dumps his life long jewish faith, and starts an entirely new belief system that does not include the jews.
According to all misled Catholic, this is where He built His Catholic Church: Mt 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.{Peter: this name signifies a rock}..
This was while He still lived!!!! He had not been crucified, died, buried, and risen yet!!!????
The bible stories were created to make square pegs fit in round holes.

The crucifixion as only told in the NT. Small crowd of people were given a choice who to crucify. Jesus or Barabas. 50/50 choice. Right? How would christianity have started if the crowd screamed Barabas instead of Jesus? Would the story then have been jesus lived for our sins?

.......50/50 chance and the crowd guessed right.....UNBELIEVABLE!





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<quoted text>lol, guess that you ahve never worn a set of 'dog tags' since they have your religion stamped on them and the govt wouldnt know what religion that you were if you didnt tell them when youw went in.
during the ww2,and the 1st iraqi war, the jewish soldiers were asked if they would like to change theirs in case they were captured. this is a fact.
dumb ox fits you perfectly
You don't have to forever prove it....we already know!!!!

Give me examples of religions stamped on dog tags....

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What does that have to do with:
I will nominate this as the third most asinine statement I have seen on this forum!!! Quote: but 3 days later dumps his life long jewish faith, and starts an entirely new belief system that does not include the jews.
How do you know what really happened back then? The only stories about a miracle man jesus in the entire MEDITERANEAN during that era were told in the scriptures ONLY.

No jewish/roman writers, scribes, statesmen, or philosophers ever mention a miracle man named Jesus in all of their writings.

Can you verify with certainty that the 4 gospels were written by the names associated with them?

UNBELIEVABLE!

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The bible stories were created to make square pegs fit in round holes.
The crucifixion as only told in the NT. Small crowd of people were given a choice who to crucify. Jesus or Barabas. 50/50 choice. Right? How would christianity have started if the crowd screamed Barabas instead of Jesus? Would the story then have been jesus lived for our sins?
.......50/50 chance and the crowd guessed right.....UNBELIEVABLE!
When you stop dodging and address my words regarding my nomination that was quoted....get back to me...
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Both claim to be Christ's Church from Acts 2.
Which one still is?

What the Bible says about the Catholic Church
http://apologeticspress.org/pdfs/e-books_pdf/...

What the Bible says about the church of Christ
http://www.apologeticspress.org/pdfs/e-books_...
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When you stop dodging and address my words regarding my nomination that was quoted....get back to me...
I am not dodging anything. You were taught to believe through family INDOCTRINATION what is written in the bible as fact. Yet it is only a belief otherwise it would be stated as a fact.

The first 300 long years of christianity and it was all over the map. So much for upon this rock. There were dozens of christians sects, cults, and beliefs each group with their own seperate sets of beliefs, rules, regulations fighting with each other burning down each others places of worship and most of them ONLY believing that their leader was a spirit only and never existed as a human.

If it wasn't for Constantine and his manpower to strong arm the weakest christian groups, official catholicism would have never got off the ground, and today, if it wasn't for family hand me down INDOCTRINATION christianity would probably have died out like all the man/god beliefs that came before.

I was raised a catholic, and soon believed that much of what was written, made no common sense, and today after 2,000 long years only 17% of the world is catholic, and what 4% and 42,000 protestant beliefs.

Christianity claims the OT and the NT form the bible. Yet christians disagree with so much of the OT yet it forms their religion....UNBELIEVABLE!

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How do you know what really happened back then? The only stories about a miracle man jesus in the entire MEDITERANEAN during that era were told in the scriptures ONLY.
No jewish/roman writers, scribes, statesmen, or philosophers ever mention a miracle man named Jesus in all of their writings.
Can you verify with certainty that the 4 gospels were written by the names associated with them?
UNBELIEVABLE!
The Bible of you and your ilk...Quote: He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
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You don't have to forever prove it....we already know!!!!
Give me examples of religions stamped on dog tags....
In 1945, more than 4,000 American GIs were imprisoned at Stalag IX-B at Bad Orb, approximately 30 miles northwest of Frankfurt-on-Main. One day the commandant had prisoners assembled in a field. All Jews were ordered to take one step forward. Word ran through the ranks not to move. The non-Jews told their Jewish comrades they would stand with them. The commandant said the Jews would have until six the next morning to identify themselves. The prisoners were told, moreover, that any Jews in the barracks after 24 hours would be show, as would anyone trying to hide or protect them.

American Jewish soldiers had to decide what to do. All had gone into battle with dog tags bearing an “H” for Hebrew. Some had disposed of their IDs when they were captured, others decided to do so after the commandant’s threat. Approximately 130 Jews ultimately came forward. They were segregated and placed in a special barracks. Some 50 noncommissioned officers from the group were taken out of the camp, along with the non-Jewish NCOs.

http://nz.answers.yahoo.com/question/index...

The official Dog Tag required the following information: Name, Service Number, Date of Tetanus Inoculation, Blood Type, Person to Notify, Religion. US Army Spec No. 34-18, dated 15 February 1939 called for production of a thin metal copper-nickel alloy identification tag (i.e. Monel).http://www.med-dept.com /dog_tags.php

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Dog tags. When you get right down to it, the military's dog tag classification forced me to reclaim MY Judaism. In the fall of 1990 things were heating up in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. I'd been an Army captain and a helicopter maintenance test pilot for a decade and received notice that I'd be transferred to the First Cavalry Division which was on alert for the Persian Gulf war. Consequently, I also caught wind of the Department of Defense "dog tag dilemma" vis-á-vis Jewish personnel.

Then as now Jews were forbidden by Saudi law to enter the country. But our Secretary of Defense flat out told the King of Saudi Arabia, "We have Jews in our military. They've trained with their units and they're going. Blink and look the other way." With Kuwait occupied and the Iraqis at his border, King Faud did the practical thing. We shipped out, but there was still the issue of classification.

Normally the dog tags of Jewish servicemen are imprinted with the word "Jewish." But Defense, fearing that this would put Jewish soldiers at further risk should they be captured on Iraqi soil, substituted the classification "Protestant B" on the tags. I didn't like the whole idea of reclassifying Jews as Protestant anything and decided to leave mine alone. I figured if I were captured, it was in God's hands. Changing my tags was tantamount to denying my religion and I couldn't swallow that. In September 1990 1 went off to defend a country I was prohibited from entering. The "Jewish" on my dog tag remained as clear and unmistakable as the American star painted on the hood of every Army truck.

http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb...

IS THAT ENOUGH [EXAMPLES ] TO CONVINCE EVEN A DUMB OX LIKE YOU?

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Wasamatter Preston? Why are you not showing examples???? If you want...I can help you....if you are having difficulties fulfilling my request!!!!....

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<quoted text>lol, guess that you ahve never worn a set of 'dog tags' since they have your religion stamped on them and the govt wouldnt know what religion that you were if you didnt tell them when youw went in.
during the ww2,and the 1st iraqi war, the jewish soldiers were asked if they would like to change theirs in case they were captured. this is a fact.
dumb ox fits you perfectly
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Mah words:
You don't have to forever prove it....we already know!!!!

Give me examples of religions stamped on dog tags....
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You don't have to forever prove it....we already know!!!!
Give me examples of religions stamped on dog tags....
I can always prove my words unlike you.lol

and the person that gave you a heart is as stupid as you are.lol

ever since the civil war, soldiers have worn id markings to help id them if they are killed.

in Vietnam, it was customary to wear one around your neck and the other on a boot lace. ask any vet.and in some units, the tags were taped so they wouldnt rattle.

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Your right!!! I'm not!!! But Jesus Christs and His One and only) True Apostolic Catholic Church---IS!!---- That is the "precise) reason" why I left one of your inconsistent 42,000+ contradicting (half-truth, half-heresy) Protestant denominations!!!!
I left the RCC. Are you really that stupid to think I went Protestant?

Nevermind. You are, even after I've explained it to you multiple times.

Blow your limited rant up your arse.

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In Jesus Christ OWN -SPOKEN---EXPRESSED--and STATED words HE said "Upon this rock I will build "MY CHURCH"!!!!!(MATT 16:18
OK-----so it is up to YOU to prove that it is NOT---- HIS CHURCH!!!
I did. I'm sorry you don't believe me.

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Everyone on here claims to know the truth but i have yet to see one person reverence the creator....understanding only comes from the reverence of the creator.Yahweh....
In fact everyone who reads scripture interpenetrates if from their own mind.....And most are wrong.
You will have to prove that "He" is the creator first.

BTW - judging others, is not what "God" wants.

So why do you?

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I know of no one who ever enlisted in the military and listed "Protestantism" as his/her religion.
Show me a Marriage License or Certificate that shows "Protestantism" as a person's religion....
You didn't answer the question, so you diverted.

I understand.....you can't claim any special denomination.

You are Protestant - live with the rules.
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Oxbow wrote:
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You don't have to forever prove it....we already know!!!!
Give me examples of religions stamped on dog tags....
did this once.Last Look: Savoring a Private Zion
By Debra B. Darvick
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Dog tags. When you get right down to it, the military's dog tag classification forced me to reclaim MY Judaism. In the fall of 1990 things were heating up in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. I'd been an Army captain and a helicopter maintenance test pilot for a decade and received notice that I'd be transferred to the First Cavalry Division which was on alert for the Persian Gulf war. Consequently, I also caught wind of the Department of Defense "dog tag dilemma" vis-á-vis Jewish personnel.

Then as now Jews were forbidden by Saudi law to enter the country. But our Secretary of Defense flat out told the King of Saudi Arabia, "We have Jews in our military. They've trained with their units and they're going. Blink and look the other way." With Kuwait occupied and the Iraqis at his border, King Faud did the practical thing. We shipped out, but there was still the issue of classification.

Normally the dog tags of Jewish servicemen are imprinted with the word "Jewish." But Defense, fearing that this would put Jewish soldiers at further risk should they be captured on Iraqi soil, substituted the classification "Protestant B" on the tags. I didn't like the whole idea of reclassifying Jews as Protestant anything and decided to leave mine alone. I figured if I were captured, it was in God's hands. Changing my tags was tantamount to denying my religion and I couldn't swallow that. In September 1990 1 went off to defend a country I was prohibited from entering. The "Jewish" on my dog tag remained as clear and unmistakable as the American star painted on the hood of every Army truck.

In 1945, more than 4,000 American GIs were imprisoned at Stalag IX-B at Bad Orb, approximately 30 miles northwest of Frankfurt-on-Main. One day the commandant had prisoners assembled in a field. All Jews were ordered to take one step forward. Word ran through the ranks not to move. The non-Jews told their Jewish comrades they would stand with them. The commandant said the Jews would have until six the next morning to identify themselves. The prisoners were told, moreover, that any Jews in the barracks after 24 hours would be show, as would anyone trying to hide or protect them.

American Jewish soldiers had to decide what to do. All had gone into battle with dog tags bearing an “H” for Hebrew. Some had disposed of their IDs when they were captured, others decided to do so after the commandant’s threat. Approximately 130 Jews ultimately came forward. They were segregated and placed in a special barracks. Some 50 noncommissioned officers from the group were taken out of the camp, along with the non-Jewish NCOs.

http://nz.answers.yahoo.com/question/index...

The official Dog Tag required the following information: Name, Service Number, Date of Tetanus Inoculation, Blood Type, Person to Notify, Religion. US Army Spec No. 34-18, dated 15 February 1939 called for production of a thin metal copper-nickel alloy identification tag (i.e. Monel). http://www.med-dept.com/dog_tags.php

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