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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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preston

Athens, OH

#422740 Feb 15, 2013
Truth wrote:
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I have spoken with Marge several times......
Can't get her to understand all the baptisms and their meanings....
there are ONLY TWO. Baptism of the Holy Ghost is not automatic, which is something that you know nothing about.

and water Baptism which comes [after] the Christian is Saved, not before, not during Salvation but afterwards, as every Christian that is now left on this board would tell you as they have in the past but you refuse to believe and accept the TRUTH
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#422741 Feb 15, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>sorry hank, but it is YOU that know nothing about salvation. and that Salvation doesnt come by getting wet. several years ago, i asked you to find me ONE person that received the holy ghost as your church teaches and you could not.
and then you and I BOTH know how you acted after that, dont we?
you are a nice guy and very sincere, but you are wrong on this doctrine.
Hey Preston,

I hope you are feeling better.....

I haven't been on here much....working with children...and, what a wonderful blessing they are....

I guess I am wrong about this doctrine because I am following the Apostle Peter with whom God is speaking through....
preston

Athens, OH

#422742 Feb 15, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
If I'm not mistaken I think I saw where you told someone else - not me - that I tried to get you kicked off. You asked me the question but you told someone else as if it were truth. Just saying...
the word that I used was [imagine] and I used it in the context of you being a newbie and I had not had anyone try and get me kicked off since 08, so it took someone like you who has found out that I dont accept your false teachings as gospel and of course that makes you mad and you just might seek revenge, I know that Hank did on me several years ago, so you people do have a past with me.
and no one dislikes me as much as the sda cultist, but he just isnt that kind. he says what he wants to say and doesnt hide it, and if I wasnt on here, his satanic rage would be wasted.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#422743 Feb 15, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>and that Baptism was [after] he had already called them, and it came when He breathed on them. no fire, no wind, just a simple breath. you will NEVER get around it that your church is WRONG.
you can try and take verses out of context ALL day long but you cant prove the lie your church teaches is Truth
SEE and HEAR...

Acts 2:2

King James Version (KJV)

2 And suddenly there came a [sound] from heaven as of a ~~~rushing mighty wind,~~~ and it filled all the house where they were sitting.

SEE and HEAR...

Acts 2:2

American Standard Version (ASV)

2 And suddenly there came from heaven a [sound] as of the ~~~rushing of a mighty wind,~~~ and it filled all the house where they were sitting.

SEE and HEAR...

Acts 2:2

New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)

2 And suddenly from heaven there came a [sound] like the ~~~rush of a violent wind,~~~ and it filled the entire house where they were sitting.

violent wind....

Holy Spirit Baptism....no water required....
preston

Athens, OH

#422744 Feb 15, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
Correct!
kinda ironic when I used the words of John describing my Experience that stated that Jesus had not yet been killed and so the Holy Ghost had not yet been given, YOU MOCKED THE WORDS OF JESUS JUST AS THE SDA CULTIST DID. luckily you didnt blaspehme the Holy Ghost as he did, so you got a chance if you get out of your false cult, that is.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#422745 Feb 15, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
Why do so many in the denominational world expect to receive the baptism the Apostles received rather than submitting to the baptism the Apostles taught.
John's baptism pointed the way to it.
This makes three different baptisms being discussed in my post. Which "one" was Paul talking about later in Eph. 4? Is it the one the Apostles received, or would it logically be the one they taught? There are lots of examples of the one baptism the Apostles were teaching in Acts. That baptism is the "one" I submitted to.
John the Baptist baptism could not save anyone.....he was preparing the way.....

Holy Spirit Baptism...apostles and the House of Cornelius.....

Baptism into the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ....washed in the blood of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of their sins and becoming disciples of Jesus Christ.....and to receive the "gift of the Holy Spirit" aka the "indwelling of the Holy Spirit"

Not hard to understand if you study...
preston

Athens, OH

#422746 Feb 15, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
SEE and HEAR...
Acts 2:2
King James Version (KJV)
2 And suddenly there came a [sound] from heaven as of a ~~~rushing mighty wind,~~~ and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
SEE and HEAR...
Acts 2:2
American Standard Version (ASV)
2 And suddenly there came from heaven a [sound] as of the ~~~rushing of a mighty wind,~~~ and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
SEE and HEAR...
Acts 2:2
New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
2 And suddenly from heaven there came a [sound] like the ~~~rush of a violent wind,~~~ and it filled the entire house where they were sitting.
violent wind....
Holy Spirit Baptism....no water required....
lol. I heard that mighty rushing wind ONCE, back in 1984 almost 2 years after I was Saved, and I couldnt hear very well all day, until I went to church that night and a man, a lonely man, a lonely UNSAVED man was sitting in the back, and God told me to go back and speak to him these words.:God loves you", and i did and going home, my cousin,(the Pastor) asked me what I said to him and I told him. then I was able to hear again.

Hank, I like you, I really do, but you know nothing about the Spiritual things of God and you never will until you get saved.

again that sound was a sign that He had come into the room,but was not the Baptism of the Holy Ghost, because then He comes and lives INSIDE of you. that wind was outside of them until he Indwelled with them.
SEE and HEAR
you can NOT SEE THE HOLY GHOST DONT ACT STUPID NOW.you will only see the fruits of Him living inside a person.

and that word [SEE]was in neither of those translations, so why did you try and use it to prove your lie? how many times have I said that a person can not use a lie to prove the TRUTH?
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#422747 Feb 15, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>ok he says "MY CHURCH" what he doesn't say is upon this rock i'll build my "CATHOLIC CHURCH", understand? your assuming he means the catholic church with no history to support your thought/theory,if it is not written how can you prove it is fact?
Church History "says it" and (has) consistently "said it" for over 2000 years--beginning in 060 AD. The bible doesn't have to say it! Every word doesn't have to be in the bible in order for it "to be TRUE!!! Christ built, initiated, formed and authenticated "ONE TRUE CHURCH"---not 42,000+ contradicting and inconsistent "relative truths".
preston

Athens, OH

#422748 Feb 15, 2013
Hank, that man died the following week, I dotn know if he ever gave his heart to he Lord between the time that I spoke those words on he died. I just dont know. one thing that I do know is that he ahd refused the Holy Ghost speaking to him many years ago, and he never felt the drawing power of God ever again.

and it takes the drawing power of God for a person to step up and give their life to the Lord. we just cant get saved whenever we want to. and that Is Bible, you can accept it or not.all I can do is tell you the Truth. my feeling towards that man is that now, he would have had to step out without that drawing Power and asked God to forgive him, and I beleive that is what it would have taken.

Is that a contradiction? Of course not, not if You know God and His love and His grace and mercy.

it turns out that that man came to that church because of my cousin, who he knew that he was related to him, and for that reason he started to come there.and what God knew but that man and I didnt know was this. I also was related to him. Jim and my grandmother(whose last name was the same as that man) were one and the same.

I [heard] that wind that morning, but I didnt [see] it.

since I know Him, I can understand His works and His words, you cant.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#422749 Feb 15, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>lol. I heard that mighty rushing wind ONCE, back in 1984 almost 2 years after I was Saved, and I couldnt hear very well all day, until I went to church that night and a man, a lonely man, a lonely UNSAVED man was sitting in the back, and God told me to go back and speak to him these words.:God loves you", and i did and going home, my cousin,(the Pastor) asked me what I said to him and I told him. then I was able to hear again.
Hank, I like you, I really do, but you know nothing about the Spiritual things of God and you never will until you get saved.
again that sound was a sign that He had come into the room,but was not the Baptism of the Holy Ghost, because then He comes and lives INSIDE of you. that wind was outside of them until he Indwelled with them.
SEE and HEAR
you can NOT SEE THE HOLY GHOST DONT ACT STUPID NOW.you will only see the fruits of Him living inside a person.
and that word [SEE]was in neither of those translations, so why did you try and use it to prove your lie? how many times have I said that a person can not use a lie to prove the TRUTH?
Acts 2:33

33 Being therefore exalted at the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit,~~~~~he has poured out this that you both see and hear.~~~~~

Acts 2:33

King James Version (KJV)

33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost,~~~~~he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.~~~~~

I guess God is wrong....
preston

Athens, OH

#422750 Feb 15, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
John the Baptist baptism could not save anyone.....he was preparing the way.....
Holy Spirit Baptism...apostles and the House of Cornelius.....
Baptism into the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ....washed in the blood of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of their sins and becoming disciples of Jesus Christ.....and to receive the "gift of the Holy Spirit" aka the "indwelling of the Holy Spirit"
Not hard to understand if you study...
Hank, go back and read the words of John the Baptist.

John the Baptist baptism

John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.

if those people that John Baptised were not forgiven of their sins, why is mark saying that he preached and baptised this Baptism for the remission of sins.

Hank, you and saban need to find you another thread to talk about your false teachings and beleifs. because they are jsut like the catholics teach, with ONLY this exception. the catholcis do water baptism at an early age with infants,

you and your church do water baptsim with adults.

AND BOTH OF YOUR CHURCHS ARE WRONG.
is the Bible lying or is your church wrong?

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#422752 Feb 15, 2013
SHE IS SEARCHING FOR THIS FORUM TO POST ON.BTW.lol

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#422753 Feb 15, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
We read aloud Joshua, Judges, 1 Samuel and part of Samuel 2 just this month.
God so wanted a relationship with His people but they wanted and thought they needed a man to lead them and that has continued to this day.
Even with having the New Covenant for 2000 years they still don't understand the freedom one has Serving God Alone through Jesus.
Love and blessings to you and Kay Marie
Amen..

There has also been a desire in mn to worship and Idol..as the Roman Catholics do today.

In the absence of Moses (HE WAS UP ON THE MOUNTAIN WITH GOD RECEIVING THE TEN COMMANDMENTS.)

The Roman Catholics are doing the same..today...THEY HAVE TO HAVE THEIR ICONS IDOLS STATUES, AND LIKENESSES OF CORRUPTIBLE MEN AND THEIR RELICS..

THE ISRAELITES SAID

Exo_32:1 And when the people saw that Moses delayed to come down out of the mount, the people gathered themselves together unto Aaron, and said unto him,

-->Up, make us gods, which shall go before us; for as for this Moses, the man that brought us up out of the land of Egypt, we wot not what is become of him.

THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL FORCED AARON TO BUILD A GOLDEN CALF.

HAVING NO RESPECT FOR JESUS CHRIST....THE INCORRUPTIBLE SON OF GOD,

The Roman Contantantins have built their statues, pray to them

converse with them, look to them as patron saints and worship them.

THEY PROVOKE GOD TO JEALOUSY

AND

YET EXPECT HIM TO GIVE THEM HIS FAVOR...

Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

___

THESE THINGS WRITTEN ABOVE DON'T JUST HAPPEN THEY ARE CAUSE...

THEIR IDOLATRY is the reason that their priest have turned to sexual perversion, sodomy and homosexuality.
7th Day Catholic Rocks

Poplar Bluff, MO

#422754 Feb 15, 2013
Act 8:12-16 KJV 12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. 13 Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done. 14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John: 15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost: 16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)

Act 9:18 KJV And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.

Act 19:1-5 KJV And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples, 2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. 3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism. 4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. 5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

Act 22:12-16 KJV 12 And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt there, 13 Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him. 14 And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth. 15 For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard. 16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Rom 6:3-6 KJV 3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: 6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

Col 2:11-14 KJV 11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: 12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. 13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; 14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

1Pe 3:21 KJV The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

1Jo 2:12 KJV I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name’s sake.

Colossians 2:9

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
For in him dwells all the fullness of the Deity bodily.

American King James Version
For in him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.

2 Corinthians 5:19 that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting men's sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation.
Colossians 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him,
jesuschrist blows donkeys

Lake Ariel, PA

#422755 Feb 15, 2013
the vatican is the only good place in italy to take a shit, with jesus and the virgin mary coming back from the dead every night to lick the toilet seats.

amen-ra!
7th Day Catholic Rocks

Poplar Bluff, MO

#422756 Feb 15, 2013
continued

Joh 3:5 KJV Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Act 2:38 KJV Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#422757 Feb 15, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Acts 2:33
33 Being therefore exalted at the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit,~~~~~he has poured out this that you both see and hear.~~~~~
Acts 2:33
King James Version (KJV)
33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost,~~~~~he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.~~~~~
I guess God is wrong....
nope, it is just your understanding of what is written. first you used the words of the rushing wind which they couldnt see.

now you are TALKING about what has happened after they are filled and BAPTISED, and they could [see] the RESULTS, which is just what I said, about the FRUITS OF THE HOLY GHOST AS WELL AS THE GIFTS OF THE HOLY GHOST.

you cant [see] the Holy Ghost so dont act dumb, since I know that you arent. as i said that morning, I heard the Holy Ghost, but I did not see Him, and I knew what he wanted me to do(fruits) and I did it(fruits),but this was months after I was already baptised in water , and almost two years after I was Saved and Baptised by the holy Ghost.

you will never know what you are now talking about until you first get saved, and you arent now. and that is to bad. we need all of the soldiers that we can get, but as it is now, you are against us and God by believing and teaching these false doctrines of your church.

and my words now are what some people wanted me to say to you beforehand but I didnt until you bring up these false teachings.
Clay

Lawrence, MA

#422759 Feb 15, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
The Catholics have walked away because they cannot defend what is defenseless. Either they justify what they do with scripture or they have to admit they make it up as they go, therefore contradicting scripture. They try their best to have it both ways but if you shine the light bright enough the truth will show.
The admission that has been made to me twice that it is basically unscriptural to be scriptural says VOLUMES!!
They are not bad people. I think they're sincere. I think they're doing the best they can with the Catholic indoctrination. Hopefully they've walked away in frustration because their faith has been challenged by a seed that has been planted. Doubt leads to study. Did the seed fall on good ground and will it take root? I can only hope and be willing to offer them Bible answers if they ask Bible questions.
Actually, Catholics on here have walked away because we've won the debate.
Even if you guys don't concede your errors, that is ok. There is nothing more to discuss. You've chosen your path Saban. Sola Scripture is what you want to follow. You say Bible Alone is what Jesus instructed. You say its what his Apostles instructed.
At the end of the day, you still have to ignore basic logic. Embrace incredible ignorance; and design a conspiracy Christianity. Good luck.

Its the same thing over on the 911 conspiracy forum. If you show those people video and eyewitness testimony, it does no good. They are deep rooted in incredible ignorance.

Also, to Catholics, it a sin participating in this horrible bible verse warfare going on here.

Neither one of you were called by God to be an authority on sacred scripture. You guys can get in line with the other million private popes and explain it to God someday. Just open up your bible and show Him verse chapter verse.
truth

Perth, Australia

#422760 Feb 15, 2013
i told you
you need love god
you are against me
when i say love
love your god
don't have many god
Catholic Girl

United States

#422761 Feb 15, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
http://carm.org/did-mary-have-other-children
I guess what you are saying is all the bible writers/contributors are wrong?
No mike that's not what i'm saying? Just as your statement is typical of those on these sites with no formal education on subjects. You pick and choose what you want to believe in the bible and push these unsupported statements on those who would believe repunzel spun gold out of straw.

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