Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Feb 13, 2013
 
since earth foundation they don't liked real Creator not at all
evil upon evil liars upon liars

liar from beginning
scripture recorded that too
byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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You caught ol' Dan with his boot in mouth.
I don't think Dan understands what he said.
According to the catholic church, the Pope is suppose to be the Vicar of Christ yet does not talk to God.
I thought the Holy Spirit lead the catholic church.

I guess he is busy talking to the dead ; you know Mary etc.
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How do you know, Marge, if this person is saved or not???
Were you there to experience it with him???
it is easy to discern.

IF A PERSON HAS NO TESTIMONY AS TO WHEN GOD SAVED HIM, THEN GOD DIDNT.

IF A PERSON SAYS THAT THEY GOT SAVED WHEN THEY WERE BAPTISED WHEN THEY WERE THREE MONTHS OLD, WE KNOW THEY WERENT.

IF A PERSON SAYS THEY GOT SAVED WHEN THEY WERE BAPTISED AS AN ADULT, WE KNOW THEY ARE LYING(EVEN IF THEY DO BELEIVE IT), SINCE WATER BAPTISM ALONE DOESNT SAVE ANYONE.
AS IT IS WRITTEN, WITHOUT THE SHEDDING OF BLOOD THERE IS NO REMISSION OF SINS.SINS ARE ONLY WASHED AWAY BY HIS BLOOD NOT SOME RIVER WATER, NOR SOME CHLORINE FILLED WATER TUB.THAT CHLORINE WILL KILL LOTS OF DIFFERENT BACTERIA, BUT IT DOESNT KILL THE STENCH OF SIN.

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A minister of the Good-News Gospel of Jesus Christ should all Born-Again beleivers from Above have in them. Yes?
One should know how their Saved, Yes?
What you are saying is as close to sacrilegious as it gets...you are saying this is a lie!!!! Quote: But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

You, evidently, are comfortable with that...hang in there....

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<quoted text>wonder who would know the jews or you.
The Jewish Encyclopedia believes it was most likely a translation of the Babylonian "gushure i÷ erini" (cedar-beams), or the Assyrian "giparu" (reed).[3] The Aramaic Targum Onkelos, considered by many Jews to be an official translation of the Hebrew scripture renders this word as &#1511;&#1491;&#15 12;&#1493;&#1505; (qadros) i.e., cedar[SEE THIS}.
The Syriac Peshitta translates this word as &#1829;&#1834;&#18 33;&#1808; (‘arqa), box wood.[4]
The Christian religions know the OT was translated from the Hebrew language...

Strong's Lexicon and the English dictionary says no one knows for sure if it was cypress..

Get help before you hurt yourself!!!!
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So then i would presume your experience was what the Apostles experienced in Acts 2:2-4? The mighty rushing wind, tongues like as of fire sitting upon you and the immediate ability to speak in languages you've never learned?
I'd like to hear more about that, except if you did claim your conversion experience was like this it would make Paul to be a liar when in Eph. 4:5 be specifically says there is only "one baptism". The Apostles' experience was unique to them at that time.
Which conversions in the Bible we're similar to yours?
Me? Well, there's Lydia, the Jailer, the Eunuch, Saul, The folks at Samaria (acts 8:5-13) and so on..
i GAVE YOU MY EXPEREINCE AS TO HOW i WAS FILLED WITH THE hOLY gHOST.

SO AGAIN, READ ABOUT IT IN JOHN 7;VERSE 37-39.AND THAT OCCURRED 9 MONTHS AND 1 DAY BEFORE I WAS BAPTISED IN WATER.

and I agree there is 1 baptism from God and that is the Holy Ghost experience.

and there is 1 baptism that is given by man.

you just dont know the difference, you are like the men from ephesus.
you received johns baptism, but still dont have God's baptism.

as hank as said twice, THINK SPIRITUAL, not carnal.lol

AND YES, I have heard that rushing mighty wind.ONCE

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The Cypress tree flowers March through May. It is found all across Israel. The Cypress was brought by the Jewish National Fund at the end of the nineteen century. It was planted to break the wind around many orchards.
http://www.hebrewpodcasts.com/treesofisrael.h...
my question to ox would be this.
is the 19th century before the time of Noah?lol
Proof positive that you don't have an ounce of brain in your head..."my question to ox would be this.is the 19th century before the time of Noah?lol"
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If it was good enough for Jesus to do it, I'm convinced. Did a man baptize him?
lol, Jesus didnt need to be Baptsied, He did that so John would know that the Messiah had really come. hhe thought so but that Baptism showed him 4 sure.

that Baptism shows everyone(well except cults) that Baptism doesnt save, Jesus wasnt lost.lol

you come on here after studying false thelogy and think that you can teach people on here. I have forgot more Bible than you will ever know.

any person should have done some research before proclaiming that [gopher wood] was a cypress tree which is not native to that region of the world.lol
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Gopher wood could have been cypress wood.....
Cypress trees grow right in water in swamps....
The main thing is Noah did as he was commanded by God....
One door to the ark....
One door to the church.....
lol, when the Jewish people began to resettle the land they found ONE AREA that was swampy land, and to combat that area, they brought in eucalyptas trees, jsut as they introduced the cypress trees to keep the soil fom blowing away in trees that they had planted.

learn some knowledge of the Land before you proclaim untruths.

The Eucalyptus tree flowers April through October. It is found all over Israel. The Eucalyptus is an Australian tree. It was brought to Israel at the end of the nineteen century to dry the swamps because it grows so quickly.
Cypress brosh &#1489;&#1512;&#14 93;&#1513;
The Cypress tree flowers March through May. It is found all across Israel. The Cypress was brought by the Jewish National Fund at the end of the nineteen century. It was planted to break the wind around many orchards.and it grows primarily in dry land, not swamps
http://www.hebrewpodcasts.com/treesofisrael.h...
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and you want us to believe you follow Christ.
Let me show the folks your post on a Michelle Obama Forum and they can decide.
Fedup said: Michelle will have power and reign over the dumb azz people on this forum.
**I have many more upon requests. Like I've always said, you're a fraud Fedup.
looks like jac was fooled by fed up. it behooves us to find out who belongs to the Lord and who doesnt.
clay just said that saban is a christian because he decided to get baptised by his uncle I think he said.what clay doesnt know about this cult that saban belongs to is that they are really pushed into getting baptised, and they dont get baptised because they got saved at their church.
their cult doesnt believe in getting blessed by the lord and shouting his Praises. once along time ago, i went to [round town] to a meeting and on the other side of the tabernacle, i heard a woman hollering and shouting, and I told a friend of mine that I would be right back, that I wanted to go find my sister.since I knew it was her and it was. thousands of people there and she wasnt afraid to Praise her Savior, but if saban would do that at his church, those elders would set on him big time.lol
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Chuck wrote:
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and you want us to believe you follow Christ.
Let me show the folks your post on a Michelle Obama Forum and they can decide.
Fedup said: Michelle will have power and reign over the dumb azz people on this forum.
**I have many more upon requests. Like I've always said, you're a fraud Fedup.
Your mammy is a fraud...jackazz. What I said is true and I believe in the teachings of JESUS CHRIST. Never said I was perfect.
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No it is not. It is not even mentioned in the bible.
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What a straw man Clay show you where they say the exact words you dream up in the moment.
2 Timothy clearly says scripture is sufficient and doess so with synonymous words.
Just like the doctrine of the Trinity, So by your retarded logic above we must believe you don't believe in the Trinity as no where in the Bible does any Apostle say God is a Trinity 3 persons one God.
You are posting like a 3 year old, If you continue your retarded illogical posts I will post through and not to you anymore. I hope you smarter than this last post.
Face it. You lost. You've failed to convince me or anyone that sola scripture is what Christ and His Apostles taught. All you shown is that you're able to manipulate the verses.

Don't get mad at me because you're embarrassed by trying to be an intellectual expert on Christianity. You came across as smug, and now you look stupid.

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I answered that question already. I'm not familiar with Paul contradicting Jesus in any way. You might be able to enlighten me. I believe Paul was inspired by the Holy Spirit in his writing so I don't think there would be any contradiction between him and Christ.
What does it matter? What's your punch line?
No you didn't. You adverted the question altogether.

Again - I haven't said "Paul" contradicted Jesus, I asked, "why do you think "Paul" was more enlightened than Jesus?", considering the Bible is littered with his letters, but very few of the teachings by Jesus.

That is the question I initially asked. You are the one who diverted with implying that "Paul" and Jesus haven't any contradictions.

Please stay focussed.
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James the Less was the first bishop of Jerusalem, he died in the yr. 66. He was an apostle and cousin to Jesus. This is written in the catholic bible. so in your mind this is Jesus' 1/2 brother?
IF(and he isnt) James(not the less either)the JUST is a cousin of jesus, is he the brother of John the Baptist?and if he is a cousin, why is he always running around with mary?and with those others that the bible says are siblings of Jesus?

so tqaking all of that into account. YES I CAN SAY WITHOUT A DOUBT THAT THIS JAMES THE JUST IS THE HALF BROTHER OF JESUS.

and to help you out(free of charge of course)LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL 12 DISCIPLES AND YOU WILL FIND OUT THAT THERE ARE TWO JAMES. ONE IS THE BROTHER OF JOHN AND NOW THIS SHOULD HELP YOU OUT. THE OTHER JAMES IS [JAMES THE LESS] SINCE HE WAS NOT AS WELL KNOWN AND THE BROTHER OF JOHN.

three james.

james the brother of john

james[the less] the other , not as well known.

james the just, the brother of our lord, as Paul also confirms what the Gospel writers claim.tho of course, your catholic bible written by jerome, knows much better than those who walked with jesus and who knew the siblings of Jesus intimately.

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As respectfully as possible, I simply cannot follow where you are going. You don't make sense to me.
Then ask questions. What is it that you don't understand?

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As respectfully as possible, I simply cannot follow where you are going. You don't make sense to me.
Also - if I don't make sense to you, it is because you are probably so wrapped up in what men have given you to believe, you probably never researched Christianity before accepting what those men gave you to believe.

If you had done the research, you wouldn't be wondering what I am talking about.

You did research the religion before joining, right?

Or more aptly, you were probably indoctrinated with it through your childhood, and told to never question, huh?

You've been duped.
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The Christian religions know the OT was translated from the Hebrew language...
Strong's Lexicon and the English dictionary says no one knows for sure if it was cypress..
Get help before you hurt yourself!!!!
I will take Jewish knowledge over that of Strongs. you are welcome to believe which ever you prefer.

as for me, the jewish people would know more about their religion and their land ,than you, me or strongs.
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As I'm sure you're aware (but probably convinced yourself otherwise) that Pauls letter to Timothy was telling him that scripture is profitable for teaching...
The scripture Paul was referring to would be the Hebrew Books the Apostles considered scripture. It would not have been his letter Timothy was reading. Nor would it have been future letters or Johns Revelation - which came at a later date.
Even so, Paul did NOT say scripture is the ONLY thing. You guys said this 1600 yrs later.
In fact Paul says the exact opposite in his letter to the Thessalonians "Hold steadfast to your traditions, taught to you by word of mouth AND letter" 2Thess 2:15
Any mention of scripture in the New Testament by the Apostles is always referring to the OT.
Does 1 Cor. 15 make your last sentence false? Does this scripture stand with your or against you?

"Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. 2 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.

3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance[a]: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Cephas,[b] and then to the Twelve. 6 After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7 Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, 8 and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born.

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And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.
The enemies of Christ would be thought desirous to know their duty, when really they hoped that which soever side he took of the question, they might find occasion to accuse him. Nothing is more likely to insnare the followers of Christ, than bringing them to meddle with disputes about worldly politics. Jesus avoided the snare, by referring to the submission they had already made as a nation; and all that heard him, marvelled at the great wisdom of his answer. Many will praise the words of a sermon, who will not be commanded by the doctrines of it.
Just out of curiosity LTM - do you know what this passage means? If so, please post your explanation.

"And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him."

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