Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 589466 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Clay

United States

#421579 Feb 11, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
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I believe the Bible to be the inspired, inerrant, infallible Word of God. Do Catholics believe God forgot a few things in it and is having to amend it?
Your perception of what the Bible should be is flawed. its an invention in the 16th century. Now you guys are all over the map in theology.

So no sir, God did not forget anything in the Bible.

And I'm glad you believe the Bible to be the inspired, inerrant, infallible word of God.
If you don't mind me asking: how do you know this? My Bible doesn't have a section on each book that declares it.
LTM

Fort Frances, Canada

#421580 Feb 11, 2013
concerned in Eygpt wrote:
The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day." (CCC, par. 841)
Now the Catholic Catechism says Muslims worship the same God as Christians.
Any one see a problem with this statement?
Why because Muslims reject Jesus as Lord and savior so clearly they don't recognize the same God as Abraham as they deny his seed Jesus the Christ
One more big Reason the RCC is not the one true church revealed in Scriptures its a sugar coated lie.
Amen, absolute truth being told . Great Post

Since: Nov 08

usa

#421581 Feb 11, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
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Amen, John. And what better day than this, the Feast of Our Lady of Lourdes, to do as the Holy Father asks and implore Blessed Mary, Ever Virgin, to assist the Cardinal Fathers in their decision.
Be of good faith! Always remember...Jesus promised us that the gates of hell would never prevail against Holy Mother Church.
Blessed be the name of the Lord.
Now and forever.
Our help is in the name of the Lord.
Who made heaven and earth.
being a criminal,he'll be looking up at god not sitting beside him...when are you going to answer my question? would you support the church like you have been doing if one of your children was molested by a priest? why are you, hojo,anthony so reluctant to answer my question? there is nothing to fear,the church does not torture and kill people any more,so it's safe to answer.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#421582 Feb 11, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
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I wouldn't feel comfortable teaching someone that they are, but I think they are too. Not that it matters... Just, interesting.
why not read the Bible and find out what it means to be "after the order of melchizedek". Jesus Christ is identified as a priest forever in the order of Melchizedek, so I doubt if they were one and the same.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#421583 Feb 11, 2013
back in the 60's i think it was,a pope was killed by poisening,to keep him quiet over the bank scadal at the time,if benny dies a sudden unexpected death,who ever has the authority should demand an autopsy just to be sure.
Clay

United States

#421584 Feb 11, 2013
concerned in Eygpt wrote:
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Just so you know you are a Roman Catholic
I am a Christian catholic small c meaning I am a Universal Christian.
I follow the teachings of Jesus and his Apostles as revealed in teh Holy scriptures.
AS your sect contradicts these teachings by bowing down to men, kissing their Ring finger in the same way Caesars of Rome demanded in their Day, as you worship graven images of dead people bow before them and pray in their name, as you adhere to the RCC Gospel that demands works be infused with grace to be saved (a different Gospel than what the Bible Reveals), as your sect believes in the heretical teaching of Purgatory, the False teaching of the Eucharist that you are literally eating human flesh no less than Jesus's flesh, the false teaching that infants can be baptized with confessing Jesus as their Lord as Savior,
The False teaching that Mary is the Mother of God and never sinned when the Paul teachs clearly in Romans all have sinned.
When the little anti Christ Pope John Paul kissed the Quran and with a so called HOLY SEE kiss the RC did not even bat an eye lash.
Yet when a wack job like the Pastor at Colarado Baptist church and he is wacko wants to burns the Quran you all go crazy.
At least he knows that the Quran comes from the pit of Hell itself
But even that self evident truth is beyond the so called Pope the Apostle in lineage of Peter. WHAT a JOKE the Papacy has become.
PETER would vomit out such an act and condemn it. Again a kiss to the ring finger of a king or RC pope is a sign of submission as was the kiss of the Quran.
You see you are so blinded by your RCC indoctrination that when YOU bow before a graven images of a woman with Blonde hair and blue eyes and call upon the name Mary to intercede for you, and then you believe you are actually worshiping Jesus.
Yet NOT ONCE in all of the NT did a disciple Apostle, the Christ Jesus ever ever pray to a dead person I.E. a person not in our world.
IN fact every example of pray in the NT is to God.
IN Fact when Jesus instructed his disciples to pray he taught them to begin with OUR FARTHER WHO ART IN HEAVEN
Not Moses who are in heaven or Joseph.
You are depraved and no I do not have the power to open your eyes to this truth only the Spirit of God if you let him as God will honor your freedom to choose.
But I will post through you to those whose hearts and souls are truly open to the truth to show them the RCC is not the ONE true Church as revealed in Scripture.
The RCC is a sugar coated Lie.
Truth Matters RC's worship Idols and graven images of Men.
Hi Concerned,
you've already proven to me that you're a liar. To me, anything that comes out of your mouth about 'what we Christians must believe' is irrelevant. Some people out there will buy into your false accusations about Catholics. I'll pray for those victims and I will also pray for you.
When I close my eyes to pray, I know who I'm worshiping and so do Catholics. You're outside of the Church and attempt to tell us what's in our hearts.
Pad

Rockford, IL

#421585 Feb 11, 2013
LTM wrote:
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Regina, why don't you pray to God like the apostles did to elect a leader of the church .
Only God in Heaven knows a persons heart.
I pray another POpe will never be elected period.
I pray to God ' this evil instituation will be torn down and every brick crush and blowed to the wind. the earth will be rid of it once and for all.
The gates of hell which starts at the vatican has not stood against God's one true spiritual church.
The catholic' wh--'s days are numbered. Praise the Lord
LTM you are really getting pretty avid against the RCC. I know that my own personal opinion about Catholicism at large is different than yours.You are holding back nothing in these posts of this year.There must have been something that has really disturbed you concerning the RCC at present.You do have relatives who are Catholic right?

Oh rest assure there will be another pope,you can pray otherwise,but the inevitable will happen,and the RCC is very much part of the END-Times,right to the finish or perhaps just before. I find it interesting that many Catholics turn their nose up at Biblical prophesies,and eschatology.

God has a PLAN,and we all are part of it.Christians are all going to be affected by whatever happens to any church in the near future.

"Look up for your Redemption draws nigh."

Did you see that video by James Abbarito'Maybe on Sunday'? It really sounds like a 7thday adventist one.He James Abbarito was killed in a plane crash.
Clay

United States

#421586 Feb 11, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
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Where would I read about the apostles successors and their qualifications? Surely not in the New Testament?
Apostolic succession and Catholic Church tradition is what gave you the Bible. Now you use those sacred books to bludgeon the very Church upon which they came. And this Church never put the false label on the books that you guys have.
Do you understand?

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#421587 Feb 11, 2013
485 418 388
Saban fan wrote:
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Sure it is! What is Jesus' Kingdom if not the church?
Hogwash!!!!

ekklesia, a calling out, i.e.(concretely) a popular meeting, especially a religious congregation (Jewish synagogue, or Christian community of members on earth or saints in heaven or both):--assembly, church.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#421588 Feb 11, 2013
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Truth wrote:
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Daniel 2:44
44 “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever.
Ephesians 3:21
21 to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, for ever and ever! Amen.
The church will last forever just like the Kingdom.
The kingdom of Old Testament prophecy is the church.
Hogwash!!!!

ekklesia, a calling out, i.e.(concretely) a popular meeting, especially a religious congregation (Jewish synagogue, or Christian community of members on earth or saints in heaven or both):--assembly, church.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#421589 Feb 11, 2013
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> http://www.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/speech...
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> Declaratio, 11 febbraio 2013
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> DECLARATION
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> Dear Brothers,
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> I have convoked you to this Consistory, not only for the three canonizations, but also to communicate to you a decision of great importance for the life of the Church. After having repeatedly examined my conscience before God, I have come to the certainty that my strengths, due to an advanced age, are no longer suited to an adequate exercise of the Petrine ministry. I am well aware that this ministry, due to its essential spiritual nature, must be carried out not only with words and deeds, but no less with prayer and suffering. However, in today’s world, subject to so many rapid changes and shaken by questions of deep relevance for the life of faith, in order to govern the bark of Saint Peter and proclaim the Gospel, both strength of mind and body are necessary, strength which in the last few months, has deteriorated in me to the extent that I have had to recognize my incapacity to adequately fulfill the ministry entrusted to me. For this reason, and well aware of the seriousness of this act, with full freedom I declare that I renounce the ministry of Bishop of Rome, Successor of Saint Peter, entrusted to me by the Cardinals on 19 April 2005, in such a way, that as from 28 February 2013, at 20:00 hours, the See of Rome, the See of Saint Peter, will be vacant and a Conclave to elect the new Supreme Pontiff will have to be convoked by those whose competence it is.
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> Dear Brothers, I thank you most sincerely for all the love and work with which you have supported me in my ministry and I ask pardon for all my defects. And now, let us entrust the Holy Church to the care of Our Supreme Pastor, Our Lord Jesus Christ, and implore his holy Mother Mary, so that she may assist the Cardinal Fathers with her maternal solicitude, in electing a new Supreme Pontiff. With regard to myself, I wish to also devotedly serve the Holy Church of God in the future through a life dedicated to prayer.
> From the Vatican, 10 February 2013
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> BENEDICTUS PP XVI
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> © Copyright 2013 - Libreria Editrice Vaticana
Saban fan

Mobile, AL

#421590 Feb 11, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Your perception of what the Bible should be is flawed. its an invention in the 16th century. Now you guys are all over the map in theology.
So no sir, God did not forget anything in the Bible.
And I'm glad you believe the Bible to be the inspired, inerrant, infallible word of God.
If you don't mind me asking: how do you know this? My Bible doesn't have a section on each book that declares it.
Proverbs 30:5-6 “Every word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him. Do not add to his words,
or he will rebuke you and prove you a liar.

We are not to tamper with the divine system originated by God and Christ

Matthew 15:13
He replied,“Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots.

The Bible teaches we must stay with God's words. We are not free to deviate or to believe or to practice whatever we choose:

2 John 1:9 - Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.

1 Corinthians 4:6 - Now, brothers and sisters, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying,“Do not go beyond what is written.” Then you will not be puffed up in being a follower of one of us over against the other

The unmitigated departure from the faith we see in denominationalism is about the best thing Satan has come up with to subvert the truth of the Bible!

Now we were discussing what God might have been left out of our Bible's that needed to be added, corrected or amended? I can't help but think of the following verse:

Galatians 1:8
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!
Saban fan

Mobile, AL

#421591 Feb 11, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Your perception of what the Bible should be is flawed. its an invention in the 16th century. Now you guys are all over the map in theology.
So no sir, God did not forget anything in the Bible.
And I'm glad you believe the Bible to be the inspired, inerrant, infallible word of God.
If you don't mind me asking: how do you know this? My Bible doesn't have a section on each book that declares it.
Help me understand where I am "all over the map with theology". I'd LIKE to answer your questions.

BIBLE QUESTIONS DESERVE BIBLE ANSWERS! I'll give you Bible answers.
7th Day Catholic Rocks

Poplar Bluff, MO

#421592 Feb 11, 2013
JOHN wrote:
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I agree with you completely, he was exactly what the Church needed when he was elected. Lets pray for a Holy Father that takes his place to be as holy and gifted.
The only HOLY FATHER is YAWEH/YAWUWAH
Saban fan

Mobile, AL

#421593 Feb 11, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>why not read the Bible and find out what it means to be "after the order of melchizedek". Jesus Christ is identified as a priest forever in the order of Melchizedek, so I doubt if they were one and the same.
You get no debate from me. They may not have been. The likenesses and roles they have played couldn't be more similar.
Clay

United States

#421594 Feb 11, 2013
concerned in Eygpt wrote:
The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day." (CCC, par. 841)
Now the Catholic Catechism says Muslims worship the same God as Christians.
Any one see a problem with this statement?
Why because Muslims reject Jesus as Lord and savior so clearly they don't recognize the same God as Abraham as they deny his seed Jesus the Christ
One more big Reason the RCC is not the one true church revealed in Scriptures its a sugar coated lie.
Muslims have always worshiped the one true God of Abraham. But like you, their perception of what that God is, is flawed. Like you, they think the their Bible (quaran) is the literal audible voice....word for word transmission from God.
Like you, they fail to see Jesus Christ established a Church not a set of books.
And just like you, they think God will only save them!!
You believe every Muslim will be in hell. Catholics say its up to God.
Who's the real Christian here??
7th Day Catholic Rocks

Poplar Bluff, MO

#421595 Feb 11, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
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This is the first time in six hundred years.
Now all you need is a three score and 6 > snicker <

How does that work with a Pope and ex pope living at the same time ?
You reckon HoJo being Catholic and all that he may be right that Pope John Paul is the 8th and of the 7 ..........lol
Saban fan

Mobile, AL

#421596 Feb 11, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Apostolic succession and Catholic Church tradition is what gave you the Bible. Now you use those sacred books to bludgeon the very Church upon which they came. And this Church never put the false label on the books that you guys have.
Do you understand?
No, I don't understand. Why didn't they give the instructions and qualifications for their office? The inspired writers provided me with instructions for the offices of Elder and Deacon. Why were the other's offices left out?
Clay

United States

#421597 Feb 11, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
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Help me understand where I am "all over the map with theology". I'd LIKE to answer your questions.
BIBLE QUESTIONS DESERVE BIBLE ANSWERS! I'll give you Bible answers.
That's great. I appreciate someone who wants real dialogue and understandings of Catholicism.
I gotta a meeting for a couple hrs. but we'll keep in touch.

Meanwhile, don't hesitate to go to

catholic.com

scripturecatholic.com .
Saban fan

Mobile, AL

#421598 Feb 11, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Apostolic succession and Catholic Church tradition is what gave you the Bible. Now you use those sacred books to bludgeon the very Church upon which they came. And this Church never put the false label on the books that you guys have.
Do you understand?
Additionally, if I can use the sacred books, God's Word, to bludgeon the Catholic Church, shouldn't that be a big HINT to the Catholics?

See if you can use the sacred books, God's Word, to bludgeon the church of Christ, the church established at Pentecost?

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