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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 599647 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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socci

El Dorado Springs, MO

#421415 Feb 10, 2013
Doctor REALITY wrote:
The False Prophet mentioned in the book of Revelation will likely come from the Roman Catholic church.


It did -- Christian-Zionism was invented by the Jesuits!


http://www.revelation-today.com/A6Ribera.htm

http://www.angelfire.com/la2/prophet1/Jesuits...

http://biblelight.net/antichrist.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futurism_%28Chri...
LTM

Fort Frances, Canada

#421416 Feb 10, 2013
Jesus did not change the laws, or teach anything New
Matthew 5:21-22, "Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill…But I say unto you…"
Matthew 5:27-28, "Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you…"
Matthew 5:31-32, "It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: But I say unto you…"
Matthew 5:33-34, "Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: But I say unto you…"
Matthew 5:38-39, "Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you…"
Matthew 5:43-44, "Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you…"
First of all, let's get one thing clear. Jesus was not quoting from the written law of the Old Testament in these verses! Let me repeat that. Jesus was not quoting from the Old Testament laws in these passages! Even the choice of words used by Christ indicates that He was addressing a confusion, or a distortion, that was commonplace. Christ used this same “Ye have heard that it hath been said,” or “it hath been said.” figure of speech to straighten out misunderstandings or falsehoods being taught by the religious leaders of the time. In other words, Jesus was dealing with hearsay statements
If Jesus was not quoting from the Old Testament, then what was he quoting from?” Yes, most of the above laws in verses 21 through 48 are found in God's Law. But even though Jesus may have been referring to God's Law, Jesus was not quoting from God's Law. Jesus was quoting from man's law! Man's laws always have scriptural truths in them; but when someone quotes these truths in man's laws, even though they have reference to God's Law in scripture, they are still being quoted from man's law itself.
In Jesus' case, the Pharisees and Sadducees took God's Law, from the Old Testament, and applied it to situations that God never intended. They had changed God's Laws. They placed their own commandments and traditions above the Word of God (Mark 7:7-9). Jesus was correcting the laws that the people have “heard” from their religious leaders, and Jesus explained these laws as God intended them to be.
For example, Jesus said:
Matthew 5:43-44, "Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.”
Was Jesus teaching something new?
God's law says,“Thou shalt love thy neighbour”(Leviticus 19:18), but God's law does not say,“hate thine enemy.” The Pharisees were taking God's Law out of context, and added to it, and changed it to mean that we are to hate our enemies, as if the one were a legitimate inference from the other. This is what the people heard from man, but it is not what they read in scripture. However, when Jesus taught we are to love our enemy, Jesus was quoting from the Old Testament (Exodus 23:4-5, Deuteronomy 23:7, Proverbs 24:17-18, Proverbs 25:21-22). He taught nothing new!
socci

El Dorado Springs, MO

#421417 Feb 10, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
"The provable factual evidence of the 40+ million the RCC has slaughtered in the Past 500 years and the Deeds of its RC Popes is unprecedented in Christian history"
The last time you were here it was 60+ million.
Concerned, your tendency to grossly exaggerate is well known by those of us who've been here a while .

Foxe's book of Martyrs puts the figure at 500 million. That was before Rome invented communist world revolution; nazi ww 1 & 2 ect. She kills still today.

video series on some of this all..

http://protocolshistory.blogspot.com/2010/09/...
Anthony MN wrote:
Why did St. James tell us to confess our sins to one another? Why are we to confess to priests? Or "elders" (if you want to change it to that)?

We can confess and ask the Lord to forgive. The priest cannot absolve sin.
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#421418 Feb 10, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
388
<quoted text>
I cannot find the word "Church" in the Bible....where are you seeing this word?
It is also interchangeable with the word Kingdom in the NT

You can find "church":
Matt. 16:18, 18:17, in Acts 20 or 30 times, Rom. 16:1 and 20 or so other times, 1 and 2 Cor. About 40 times, Gal. 1:2, 1:13, 1:22, Eph. 10 or 12 times and so on and so on.....
LTM

Fort Frances, Canada

#421419 Feb 10, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Preston says Jesus was an embryo implanted in Mary, he says she was a gossiper and a bad mother and that his own mother was holier than Mary. He also says Ananias had no idea what he was doing when he baptized St. Paul. I assume you agree with his theories, now that he's no longer railing on you calling you an ignorant biblically illiterate moron right?
Anthony you don't want to get me started on this subject.
How does a baby have its beginning?? An egg from the Mother is pentrated by the mans sperm , but this did not happen with Mary there was no sperm , unless you believe the Holy Spirit has sex with Mary and produced sperm. Logic will tell you no He didn't.
Because Heavenly body's have no gender.
So that leaves only one conclusion , Jesus was an embryo planted in the womb of Mary. Common sense

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#421420 Feb 10, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
My accountability is not bound by your interpretations of sacred Scriptures. Nor is it to the thousands of other paper Popes. Its not responsible for anyone to follow anyone but the Church- which was given authority from God. All you do is cherry pick their canon of Scripture anyway.
Confronting with if word? Nah. You're confronting with some of the word. You're not using 7 other sacred books that Christians used for 1,600 yrs before the Protestants removed them without any authority. Its their hands that has the blood. By you teaching their errors, you're participating in their sin.
"remember me and look at me, punish me not for my sins and ignorances, and the sins of my fathers, who have sinned before thee. For they obeyed not thy commandments. Wherefore thou hast delivered us for a spoil; and unto captivity and unto death. And for a proverb of reproach to all the nations among who we are dispersed"
Book of Tobit 3: 3-4
~~~

Heb 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

(NOT TO ROME...)

BUT

Heb 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

Heb 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

(WHY DO YOU REFUSE GOD'S WORD?)

Heb 12:25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:

Heb 12:26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.

Heb 12:27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.

Heb 12:28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:

Heb 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

YOUR MIXTURE OF PAGANISM TRADITION AND CONJECTURE HAS MADE A MOCKERY

OF GOD'S DIVINE

PURPOSE OF SENDING HIS SON TO DIE FOR LOST HUMANITY,,,

Created by Constantine ....

WHAT your religious society has conjured up

has no scriptural relevance....

it makes you an enemy OF GOD.
LTM

Fort Frances, Canada

#421421 Feb 10, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
In short, my point was that Noah had to do something to accept the grace he was granted. That does not mean he wasn't saved by grace.
When I'm baptized for the remission of my sins (Acts 2:38) it doesn't mean I am not saved by grace. It is only through God's grace anyone is saved. However, we are given commandments to follow and obey.
Eph 2: 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Saban, Its all God's idea to save us and give us a measure of Faith. To recieve that truth .

Nothing we do can save us nothing; what saved us is what Jesus did for us.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#421422 Feb 10, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
388
<quoted text>
I cannot find the word "Church" in the Bible....where are you seeing this word?
~~~

THE WORD CHURCH IS FOUND IN THE BIBLE...NEW TESTAMENT

IN 79 verses found,

Matthew 2 verses found
Acts 18 verses found
Romans 4 verses found
1 Corinthians 16 verses found
2 Corinthians 1 verse found
Galatians 1 verse found
Ephesians 9 verses found
Philippians 2 verses found
Colossians 4 verses found
1 Thessalonians 1 verse found
2 Thessalonians 1 verse found
1 Timothy 3 verses found
2 Timothy 1 verse found
Titus 1 verse found
Philemon 1 verse found
Hebrews 2 verses found
James 1 verse found
1 Peter 1 verse found
3 John 3 verses found
Revelation 7 verses found
Anthony MN

Andover, MN

#421423 Feb 10, 2013
socci wrote:
<quoted text>
Foxe's book of Martyrs puts the figure at 500 million. That was before Rome invented communist world revolution; nazi ww 1 & 2 ect. She kills still today.
video series on some of this all..
http://protocolshistory.blogspot.com/2010/09/...
<quoted text>
We can confess and ask the Lord to forgive. The priest cannot absolve sin.
500 million?

Citation please.

We can confess Jesus? Sure. But why does St. James tell us to confess to priests if the Church?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#421424 Feb 10, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
"and Mary's flesh is rotten in a grave."
I will pray a Hail Mary for you.
They looked for her grave. They never found it. She was assumed into heaven like Enoch and Elijah.
"[T]he Apostles took up her body on a bier and placed it in a tomb; and they guarded it, expecting the Lord to come. And behold, again the Lord stood by them; and the holy body having been received, He commanded that it be taken in a cloud into paradise: where now, rejoined to the soul,[Mary] rejoices with the Lord's chosen ones..." Gregory of Tours, Eight Books of Miracles, 1:4 (inter A.D. 575-593).
~~~

Why do you waste you time praying to the dead that Jesus said are still here in the earth,

TILL HE RETURNS FOR THEM...

DID NOT JESUS SAY...

Joh 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

Joh 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you,

-->I will come again,

and

receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

WHY DO YOU CALL JESUS A LIAR?
Anthony MN

Andover, MN

#421425 Feb 10, 2013
LTM wrote:
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Anthony you don't want to get me started on this subject.
How does a baby have its beginning?? An egg from the Mother is pentrated by the mans sperm , but this did not happen with Mary there was no sperm , unless you believe the Holy Spirit has sex with Mary and produced sperm. Logic will tell you no He didn't.
Because Heavenly body's have no gender.
So that leaves only one conclusion , Jesus was an embryo planted in the womb of Mary. Common sense
So Jesus was not a male?

Planted in her womb? So we can just ignore the "conceive in your womb" thingy because Preston, the same guy who a few weeks ago said you were a biblically illiterate moron, is feeding you common sense now.

It's obvious you're swayed by every goofy theory out there and preachers who rail on you then become nice, so instead of risking your soul listening to that buffoon, I suggest you check with some of your bible group and/ or other protestant groups and see what they say about the embryo theory.
LTM

Fort Frances, Canada

#421426 Feb 10, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
"and Mary's flesh is rotten in a grave."
I will pray a Hail Mary for you.
They looked for her grave. They never found it. She was assumed into heaven like Enoch and Elijah.
"[T]he Apostles took up her body on a bier and placed it in a tomb; and they guarded it, expecting the Lord to come. And behold, again the Lord stood by them; and the holy body having been received, He commanded that it be taken in a cloud into paradise: where now, rejoined to the soul,[Mary] rejoices with the Lord's chosen ones..." Gregory of Tours, Eight Books of Miracles, 1:4 (inter A.D. 575-593).
Show me the bibical verse that says Mary was assumed into heaven like Enoch, and Elijah,.
Does the Bible tells us that they were assumed into heaven??
Why them and not Mary??? Anthony; After all she is Queen of Heaven according to you ever virgin , Mother Of God shouldn't she be mentioned above them. That is an important position you give to Mary.

Why did God take Enoch and Elijah to heaven without them dying?"

According to the Bible, Enoch and Elijah are the only two people God took to heaven without them dying. Genesis 5:24 tells us, "Enoch walked with God; then he was no more, because God took him away." Second Kings 2:11 tells us, "Suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind." Enoch is described as a man who "walked with God for 300 years" (Genesis 5:23). Elijah was perhaps the most powerful of God's prophets in the Old Testament. There are also prophecies of Elijah's return (Malachi 4:5-6).

Why did God take Enoch and Elijah? The Bible does not specifically give us the answer. Some speculate that they were taken in preparation for a role in the end times, possibly as the two witnesses in Revelation 11:3-12. This is possible, but not explicitly taught in the Bible. It may be that God desired to save Enoch and Elijah from experiencing death due to their great faithfulness in serving and obeying Him. Whatever the case, God has His purpose, and while we don’t always understand God’s plans and purposes, we know that “His way is perfect”(Psalm 18:30).

I am sorry Anthony for you, I know your intentions are good but Mary can't answer your prayers , so if you are going to pray direct them directly to God who can hear and answer your prayers.
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#421427 Feb 10, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Eph 2: 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Saban, Its all God's idea to save us and give us a measure of Faith. To recieve that truth .
Nothing we do can save us nothing; what saved us is what Jesus did for us.
Did Noah have any reason to boast? Again, was he saved by grace, not of works?

We're the Children of Israel saved by grace or by their works?
Guest

Poplar Bluff, MO

#421428 Feb 10, 2013
socci wrote:
no, the Bible is not catholic. it was in use long before the 4th.
and just because there are baptists or sda who disagree about the day of worship does not then make the catholic right. only they like the catholic reject what is written.
the catholic and baptist both worship the same day. the catholic says their church is the authority and knows better. the baptist does not want to break with the denomination thus continues in error same as catholics.
sda have other errors but on this one they are right!
AMEN !!

I do NOT belong to the SDA Church however will use there URL's on topic I agree with the same as any other denomination that stay's true to scripture.
I try my best to stay with what is clear using three scriputres on any given subject to prove my point.
Many try to use scripture and apply it to n event or a time frame that is not in order to God's word according to times and seasons etc.
Guest

Poplar Bluff, MO

#421429 Feb 10, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
<quoted text>
Which of the three of us is being hateful? Me, you, or Truth?
I would not worry to much about atemcowboy/preston. He has put his self in place of God just like the Pope and has told everyone on here at least once they are going to hell or that they are not saved.

Since: Jan 08

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#421430 Feb 10, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
500 million?
Citation please.
We can confess Jesus? Sure. But why does St. James tell us to confess to priests if the Church?
I would like you a lot better if you quit lying.James never said to confess our [sins] before a priest.

James 5:16
King James Version (KJV)

16 Confess your faults one to another,

faults are not to be considered sins.what has happened in that the original Greek word paraptoma whihc means faults has been changed by modern translations to another word which is hamartial which does mean sins.

it is hamartial to change what james said and meant.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#421431 Feb 10, 2013
Guest wrote:
<quoted text>I would not worry to much about atemcowboy/preston. He has put his self in place of God just like the Pope and has told everyone on here at least once they are going to hell or that they are not saved.
at least I dont get caught lying all the time like you do. anyway, the campbellite is your cousin in doctrine

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#421432 Feb 10, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
So Jesus was not a male?
Planted in her womb? So we can just ignore the "conceive in your womb" thingy because Preston, the same guy who a few weeks ago said you were a biblically illiterate moron, is feeding you common sense now.
It's obvious you're swayed by every goofy theory out there and preachers who rail on you then become nice, so instead of risking your soul listening to that buffoon, I suggest you check with some of your bible group and/ or other protestant groups and see what they say about the embryo theory.
anthony, get a diction, shoot google the word [conceive]. It means to begin, and that is just what God did.

you are dumber than a rock

never mind, I did it for you.

Definition of CONCEIVE. transitive verb. 1. a: to become pregnant with (young) <conceive a child> b: to cause to begin : originate

instead of railing against my words.

WHY NOT DISPROVE THEM.LOL
LTM

Fort Frances, Canada

#421433 Feb 10, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
500 million?
Citation please.
We can confess Jesus? Sure. But why does St. James tell us to confess to priests if the Church?
Anthony you are mistaken.

The concept of confession of sin to a priest is nowhere taught in Scripture. First, the New Testament does not teach that there are to be priests in the New Covenant. Instead, the New Testament teaches that all believers are priests. First Peter 2:5-9 describes believers as a “holy priesthood” and a “royal priesthood.” Revelation 1:6 and 5:10 both describe believers as “a kingdom of priests.” In the Old Covenant, the faithful had to approach God through the priests. The priests were mediators between the people and God. The priests offered sacrifices to God on behalf of the people. That is no longer necessary. Because of Jesus’ sacrifice, we can now approach God’s throne with boldness (Hebrews 4:16). The temple veil tearing in two at Jesus’ death was symbolic of the dividing wall between God and humanity being destroyed. We can approach God directly, ourselves, without the use of a human mediator. Why? Because Jesus Christ is our great High Priest (Hebrews 4:14-15; 10:21) and the only mediator between us and God (1 Timothy 2:5). The New Testament teaches that there are to be elders (1 Timothy 3), deacons (1 Timothy 3), bishops (Titus 1:6-9), and pastors (Ephesians 4:11)– but not priests.

When it comes to confession of sin, believers are told in 1 John 1:9 to confess their sins to God. God is faithful and just to forgive our sins as we confess them to Him. James 5:16 speaks of confessing our trespasses “to one another,” but this is not the same as confessing sins to a priest as the Roman Catholic Church teaches. Priests / church leaders are nowhere mentioned in the context of James 5:16. Further, James 5:16 does not link forgiveness of sins with the confession of sins “to one another.”

The Roman Catholic Church bases their practice of confession to a priest primarily on Catholic tradition. Catholic do point to John 20:23,“If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven." From this verse, Catholics claim that God gave the apostles the authority to forgive sins, and that authority was passed on to the successors of the apostles, i.e., the bishops and priests of the Roman Catholic Church. There are several problems with this interpretation.(1) John 20:23 nowhere mentions confession of sin.(2) John 20:23 nowhere promises, or even hints, that the authority to forgive sins would be passed on to the successors of the apostles. Jesus’ promise was specifically directed to the apostles.(3) The New Testament nowhere states that the apostles would even have successors to their apostolic authority. Similarly, Catholics point to Matthew 16:19 and 18:18 (binding and loosing) as evidence for the Catholic Church’s authority to forgive sins. The same three above points apply equally to these Scriptures.
Guest

Poplar Bluff, MO

#421435 Feb 10, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
"and Mary's flesh is rotten in a grave."
I will pray a Hail Mary for you.
They looked for her grave. They never found it. She was assumed into heaven like Enoch and Elijah.
"[T]he Apostles took up her body on a bier and placed it in a tomb; and they guarded it, expecting the Lord to come. And behold, again the Lord stood by them; and the holy body having been received, He commanded that it be taken in a cloud into paradise: where now, rejoined to the soul,[Mary] rejoices with the Lord's chosen ones..." Gregory of Tours, Eight Books of Miracles, 1:4 (inter A.D. 575-593).
Gregory of Tours, Eight Books of Miracles, 1:4 (inter A.D. 575-593)

Any Idea where he got his source of info from ?

LOL

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