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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 661597 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Fishers, IN

#421249 Feb 10, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Don't confuse the early Christians with modern day Evangelicals.
The Bible (to them) was the Hebrew books. Not the various letters and memoirs of The Apostles. Those did not yet become part of The Bible.
The Apostles were convinced Christ was coming back in their lifetime. They would never have thought to compile their writings into a Bible.
The Roman Catholic Church decided to do just that in the 4th and 5th century.
Thank God the Bible was compiled,if it was not,we would still be seeing souls crawling on their knees bloodied and torn,hoping that God would forgive them of their sins.Luther was appauled when he went to Rome and saw the poor being mortified in order to gain favor with God.In Luther's time the RCC sold indulgenses that varied in payment with who could afford such and such to gain a good spot in heaven.The Bible must have been written in books or scrolls,as Luther and other priests knew the New Testament.

Why is it that after the first century so much that is not in the Bible was practised,including mortification for sin and appeasement,the belief that if you wear such and such your time in purgatory will be short.If you say the rosary often or daily,Mary will answer your prayers,"devotion to our Lady,"which basically is not Scriptural. So much we cannot even touch the surface.It goes on and on,BUT we know for a fact that only Jesus saves by His precious Blood,and that in Christ we have our being.

I tremble at the thought of what would have happened if people like Luther did not confront the heresy purpetrated by the Papacy in his day.It seems to me God in Christ decided that enough was enough,His death and Resurrrection was not in vain.

Fishers, IN

#421250 Feb 10, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
One of the greatest benefits afforded to every Christian is the privilege of answered prayers. In the Bible, Jesus made this tremendous promise,“And whatever things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive”(Matt 21:22). However, despite the Lord’s willingness to answer prayer, it is obvious that some prayers have gone unanswered.
Why is this? The following are the most common reasons why some prayers do not get results:
1. Lack of Fellowship with God and His word
2. Not seeking to Please the Lord
3. Unconfessed Sin in One’s Life
4. Improper Motives
5. Not asking in God’s will
6. Don’t know how to pray
7. Lack of Faith
8. Misunderstanding of Faith
9. Wavering faith
10. Failure to apply spiritual Authority
11. Lack of Perseverance
Powerful,truth,undeniably frank.

Perth, Australia

#421251 Feb 10, 2013
when devil know time is short..a yes you want square everything in short time..did better.
devil have short time..


Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#421252 Feb 10, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
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The apostles were baptized in a manner unlike the "one" baptism Paul speaks of in Eph. 4. It should be obvious that after the tongues as of fire came down upon them they could do things that you and I could not do after our baptism. They were the foundation and they needed to be able to work wonders to prove their message was from God so people would believe what they said. Today we have the Word which should be sufficient. Remember they "put away childish things" (i.e. miracle working).
most of the Apostles were already baptised by John, more than likely.

and where you are getting "tongues of fire" came down on them,that is not Biblical, so that means you are lying for some reason, what is it?

John chapter 20:22

And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:

you are a newbie but you better know more than lies to tell us. we been over this road many times with campbellites, you people come and you dont stay long after being exposed. guest(the sda) stays because he is filled with hatred.

Perth, Australia

#421253 Feb 10, 2013
we know who first come
is that your Creator..nooooooooooooooooo
10 years ago i need be killed and still day by day night by night some wicket satanic eyes..see

i am still alive corupt evil people don't have mercy..never will be lust sloth envy not going so easy from them nooooooooo

Perth, Australia

#421254 Feb 10, 2013
Is that your Redeemer where who is in sleep waiting resurrection?

Perth, Australia

#421255 Feb 10, 2013
you not honor me its lips not even love me

byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyy

Perth, Australia

#421256 Feb 10, 2013
devil have short time devil want everything do on short
is that your Redeemer or salvation

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooo
evil upon evil
curse upon curse
liars upon liars
liar from beginning

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#421257 Feb 10, 2013
Saban fan wrote:
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Why did Peter instruct the people at Pentecost to be baptised for the remission of sins when they asked what they should do to be saved? You make a strong statement in your second sentance but you do not give the chapter and verse. I give you Acts 2:38. What do you give me?
Does what the ible says matter to your doctorine?
lol. for some reason, you left out the [key] word which is repent.



Then David said to Nathan,“I have sinned against the Lord.”

Nathan replied,“The Lord has taken away your sin. You are not going to die.

David acknowledged that he had sinned and that sin was against God and His laws, and he repented. and nathan told him that he was forgiven. men of God seem to know things like

seems like we get these campbellites every few years or so. glad Hank quit bringing his doctrine to this forum and sticks with just the Bible on other issues.

Perth, Australia

#421258 Feb 10, 2013
ujoli satano za svojim poslom natrag

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#421259 Feb 10, 2013
LTM wrote:
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The short of it Saban we are saved by faith not of works less anyone should boost.
Nothing we do even getting baptized in water saves us.
It is a works we do, we are saved by the works of Jesus Christ, on the cross for the remission of our sins
If we could save our selfs by being baptized in water Jesus would not have had to die on the cross.
When does a person repent?? an unsaved person won't repent and an unsaved person would not get baptized.
Repent and be baptized for the remission of sin , Remission is used to translate the Greek word of the Scriptures, pronounced af-es-is, which means freedom, particularly after a pardon.
repentance and remission of sins"
The remission of sins is made possible only by and through the shed blood of Jesus Christ, the Son of God
Peter preached repentance for the remission of sins:
"Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins" (Acts 2:38 KJV)
you are wrong on this statment.

and an unsaved person would not get baptized.

every person that belongs to the campbellite churches are unsaved yet they have been baptised, that is the false doctrine that they follow. they are every much as lost as the jw's.

however you will find that in the majority they are a much better class of people
concerned in Eygpt

Aberdeen, UK

#421260 Feb 10, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>LTM,using the line that the thief on the cross did not need baptism for salvation,is a mute point,he could not have come down off of that cross to receive water baptism.He was facing execution or dying on that cross,his legs were later broken to ensure his death. Hardly a time or place for the poor man to be baptized.
Baptism is part of the process of repentance as it were.When one repents they are seeking Christ's only remedy for salvation,HIMSELF(crucified,sh ed blood,dying,and RESSURECTION). Baptism is the physical response in believing that Christ died for our sins,as we go down into the water in BURIAL.It is ludicrous that any believer who is able to be baptized that they should not follow through after repentance,or a time given for such.
The B i b l e baptism in water is truly what we need to complete as it were that command of Christ to be born of the water and the Spirit.Water-Baptism,Spirit-Re pentance,and Conversion. Just because Jesus said the water first does not mean we should be baptized as infants.The Book of ACTS always describes the believers as believing,repenting and being baptized for the remission of sins.
Infant baptism in the light of the Scriptures as stated in the Book of Acts of the Apostles is like putting the cart before the horse.
I don't believe LTM wrote that the thief did not receive a spiritual baptism with his salvation he said he did not need water baptism to be saved.

He was Baptized by and in the Holy Spirit and that is what matters.

To be obedient to the command of Jesus and have water Baptism is an outward demonstration of an inward baptism that has already occurred.

Water Baptism is declaring I HAVE BEEN Saved already.

If you die on the way to the water by a heart attack no worries its not needed the fact that you would if you could again is the conformation of the inside spiritual reality of salvation that has already taken place.

You don't have a water baptism to be or get saved you have a water baptism because you have already been saved and baptized in the Holy Spirit previous.

Let us not forget the confession of your faith that Jesus has become your LORD is also an outward sign of the new inward reality.

That's why infant water washing does not save because the infant cannot confess by their mouth of an inward spiritual change.

some thoughts

Perth, Australia

#421261 Feb 10, 2013
natrag ajde tamo gdje gartan trava raste
who first descover america if apeache ape is already there
apeache=ehcaepa=nek se cepha nek se chepa nek se tarre tara tare terror terra seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

vaspuchi colombo chine who
Barry Bali

Denpasar, Indonesia

#421262 Feb 10, 2013
The roman catholic church is a secretive and powerful cult, centrally managed by an all male
executive and has far too bloody much to say for itself. When the revolution comes, after we've killed all the lawyers we will kill all the RC priests and that will be a good start.

Perth, Australia

#421263 Feb 10, 2013
nemoj biti brezobrazan=shame of you

25 3
7 december 41=pearl harbour
7 2+5=7 12 1+2=3
25 3
nemoj biti brezobrazan

vidis li taj symbol what soldier have as sun


its only one

3x heaven 3x sun=nemoj kazat=don't tell
neko ima mapu i kodove

Perth, Australia

#421264 Feb 10, 2013
nemoj biti bezobrazan
nemoj kazat
what two deference meaning

Perth, Australia

#421265 Feb 10, 2013
a e i o u

they attacking me front of my house set up accident with car..did i need died front of my hose as well accuse falseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

did i have excess for my rights hospital justice and so on

justice is not justiceeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyy

Perth, Australia

#421266 Feb 10, 2013
pitaj u bolnici i drugim mjestima pitaj lazota koji se kunu i pisu krivo ajde pitaj tih svetaca koliko su pravedni..
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#421267 Feb 10, 2013
LTM wrote:
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You are right the man was under the law, John was baptised in his mothers womb when Mary went to see her. He was not baptised with water , but the Holy Spirit.
Baptismal regeneration is the belief that a person must be baptized in order to be saved. baptism is an important step of obedience for a Christian, but we adamantly reject baptism as being required for salvation. We strongly believe that each and every Christian should be water baptized by immersion. Baptism illustrates a believer’s identification with Christ’s death, burial, and resurrection. Romans 6:3-4 declares,“Or don't you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.” The action of being immersed in the water illustrates dying and being buried with Christ. The action of coming out of the water pictures Christ’s resurrection.
Requiring anything in addition to faith in Jesus Christ for salvation is a works-based salvation. To add anything to the gospel is to say that Jesus' death on the cross was not sufficient to purchase our salvation. To say we must be baptized in order to be saved is to say we must add our own good works and obedience to Christ's death in order to make it sufficient for salvation. Jesus' death alone paid for our sins (Romans 5:8; 2 Corinthians 5:21). Jesus' payment for our sins is appropriated to our “account” by faith alone (John 3:16; Acts 16:31; Ephesians 2:8-9). Therefore, baptism is an important step of obedience after salvation but cannot be a requirement for salvation.
I still haven't been shown where my submission to baptism was a work. Why wouldn't faith be a "work"? You have to do something to have faith (hear and believe). To learn Covey's 7 Habits I would have to read and study his work - is this not work for me?

Romans 6:3-4 does a great job of showing what happens during baptism. We die to sin and we're buried. Our old life is in the grave. Just as Christ was raised from the grave leaving our sins behind, we are raised to walk in newness of life as new creatures, members of his body, "in" him, and members of His Kingdom or church.

Was Noah saved by Grace?
Was Noah saved by faith alone?
Was Noah saved by works?

God had given the Children of Israel the victory, but they had to have obedient faith to attain it. They had to go through the water (Red Sea-which is a great symbol of Jesus blood and baptism that would come later)

We have no issue with Verses like John 3:16. They're true! If we believe we will be saved - because if we believe we will (as Noah did) do as we're instructed to do.(Acts 2:38).

We are not justified by faith alone.
Saban fan

Decatur, AL

#421268 Feb 10, 2013
LTM wrote:
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What is faith Saban Fan , to believe God .
John 14:12 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I am going to the Father.
Our faith or lack of it prevents us from doing what the apostles did in the name of Jesus.
People believe that the apostles who were with Jesus were the only ones who had these gifts that is not true.
If people believe that then they have no reason to believe that God answers prayers today either.
After the Bible was in place those "childish things" (I.e. miracles) were put away.

That's not to say miracles have ceased, but the INSTANT miracle ability of Jesus and the Apostles we read about throughout the NT does not happen now.

I had a Baptist minister and good friend explain a miracle that happened to him. After surgery to repair his shoulder he could raise his arm to a level the doctors said would never happen. Is this the type of miracle we are reading about in the NT? I don't believe so. If in the NT the surgery would've never been needed and the healing would've been from broken and disrepair to fixed in an instant.

Those miracles for confirmation were childish things that people had to see to understand what the people were preaching came straight from God. I serious student of the Bible shouldn't need those "childish things" now that we have the scriptures to guide us.

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