Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

[marge]

ReginaM wrote:

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It's interesting that you bring up the exclusivity of a personal relationship with God that Protestants take such pride in. I've been noticing in recent readings here and there that while this can sound wonderful to some, it really is contrary to the very nature of God and the teachings of Christ. God is, after all, relationship....Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Christ taught love of God, other, then self....service not selfishness. Love cannot survive in isolation. The Body of Christ is in a word Communion.

Hey Regina, that is what I've been trying to tell you, we are all one in the Lord, of the One same Spirit, and yes literally in Communion with each other. well not you and me but me and my brothers and sisters, hope and pray you were in there though:)

[Oxbow]

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Robert F wrote:

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Oxbow
The Blessed Mary was a devoted Jew, as exemplified by the Presentation, and attendence at the Feasts. And with all Jews they expected the Messiah.
She knew the scriptures.
She accepted by faith, she would bear the Messiah.
Isaiah 53 she knew, and accepted her son would be the Suffering Servant....therefore she knew...."7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth."
And this was done in the instant acceptance by her faith. So she knew Jesus would die in a terrible way, but was thankful and rejoiced in God her Savior, named Jesus.

Appreciate your response...but it does not change the truth...per Scripture:

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There is no Scripture that even hints of Mary "offering her son as a sacrifice".....

It does teach: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

[confrinting with the word]

Robert F wrote:

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confrinting
No one challenges the Bible. Your views added to the Bible..., we know them well.(smile), and challenge them. It always goes back to this with you.
Remember while talking with Nicodemus, Jesus said,
John 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
In other words, you don't know who, what, where, when, one is born of the Spirit....
Here is your error, You seem to think, as many Protestants that being born again has to be some very dramatic event, when it can be more quiet than a whisper.
One does not have to go screaming up and down the aisles of a church, or go to an altar call to be born again. It can be done so quietly by God that it is not noticeable. Many virtuous people may be born again is such a way....

~~~

YOU WROTE

No one challenges the Bible. Your views added to the Bible..., we know them well.(smile), and challenge them. It always goes back to this with you.

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IF YOU ARE LIVING BY THE BIBLE ..WHERE IS YOUR FRUITS...?

Jesus said

Mat_7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT IS...

Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is

love,

joy,

peace,

longsuffering,

gentleness,

goodness,

faith,

Gal 5:23

Meekness,

temperance:

against such there is no law.


Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

QUESTION ..

HOW CAN YOU LIVE BY THE SPIRIT IF YOU ARE NOT BORN AGAIN OF THE SPIRIT?

WHY NOT OBEY JESUS AND STOP YOUR CONFUSION OF FACE.

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JESUS SAID...

Joh 3:3 JESUS ANSWERED AND SAID UNTO HIM, VERILY, VERILY I SAY UNTO THEE...EXCEPT A MAN BE BORN AGAIN,HE CANNOT SEE...

... properly to see (literally or figuratively); by implication (in the perfect only) to know:- be aware, behold, X can (+ not tell), consider,(have) known (-ledge), look (on), perceive, see, be sure, tell, understand, wist, wot. Compare G3700.

THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

[truth]

every spirit is not holy
corupt spirit liked posses your soul don't you..
did you sold your soul..to whom..old cherubim..its OK if you are ..does meter..
but
God give free will as well not to do..byyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[confrinting with the word]

Oxbow wrote:

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Appreciate your response...but it does not change the truth...per Scripture:
213
There is no Scripture that even hints of Mary "offering her son as a sacrifice".....
It does teach: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

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CONSTANTINE-ISM DOES TEACH BEING BORN AGAIN OF THE SPIRIT...

IT DOES NOT TEACH THE SPIRITUAL KINGDOM OF GOD...IT TEACHES A PHYSICAL KINGDOM WITH IT PRINCE/POPE IN ROME...

Did not JESUS SPEAK OF YOUR POPE WHEN HE SAID..

Joh_14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for THE PRINCE.

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ar'-khone
Present participle of G757; a first (in rank or power):- chief (ruler), magistrate, prince, ruler.

OF THIS WORLD COMETH AND HATH NOTHING IN ME.

[confrinting with the word]

CORRECTED POST FROM ABOVE...CONSTANTINE-ISM DOES -->NOT<-- TEACH BEING BORN AGAIN OF THE SPIRIT...

IT DOES NOT TEACH THE SPIRITUAL KINGDOM OF GOD...IT TEACHES A PHYSICAL KINGDOM WITH IT PRINCE/POPE IN ROME...

Did not JESUS SPEAK OF YOUR POPE WHEN HE SAID..

Joh_14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for THE PRINCE.

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Present participle of G757; a first (in rank or power):- chief (ruler), magistrate, prince, ruler.

OF THIS WORLD COMETH AND HATH NOTHING IN ME.

[truth]

thank you very much..i love my life even when i cry..

my rights for my life

[truth]

psalm 146

[Sherlayne]

Catholic Girl wrote:

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Don you know who the grandmother would be?---- St. Ann sill, Mary's mother. St. Ann is the patron saint of seamstress's. I've asked st. ann many times to guide me in my work.
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As for St. Joseph...not much in scripture on this guy. The last thing in bible about him was when Jesus escaped from Mary & Joseph and they searched and searched for him finding him in the temple, teaching the priests. It's believed that Joseph passed away after that. But what better way to go than being close to Jesus and Mary. Keep in mind that Joseph was not his father, but that God is his father. I know, it's all a mystery. So Michael, I don't believe the church says no just to upset those like you. If there's no other info out there, they do not make it up as I believe other religious mere mortals may, they say nothing because nothing more is known. Joseph was quite old when he married Mary, he was married for 50 yrs. with children and his wife died.
Those in our church know lots more info. than I. yes, I depend on those folks for their knowledge and guidance.
Keep in mind, God loves you.

Catholic Girl, you seem to know your stuff. I learn a lot from you, thanks. One of many things that puzzle me about Mary. Jesus never once said to pray to her for special favors, plus her "Assumption"...pun intended, but that's pure "assumption", as the bible never mentions her death. She (according to Catholic teaching) "rose bodily" into heaven - how could a material thing be in a spiritual dwelling? and then they claimed she was crowned - spiritually perhaps, but a CROWN in heaven? If they can assume such things, what else can they assume? Do you see why I doubt? They even claim that because she was born sans original sin, she suffered no pain in childbirth...that's a story made up to justify why childbirth hurts - that dang old Eve did it again. Mary most likely gave birth just like any other woman - maybe even got stretch marks and that is NOT an insult.

[truth]

who wrote that..mary..no she not wrote that not at all

[truth]

people wrote what they liked..
but people wrote many things whats happened with them too..

all people not pray some too..
i see many people going talking and walking
i think something wrong when i grow up as tiny child where i am born...
no no they pray

mind never rest
even when your body going sleep

people who want play with others
many of them are corupt soul
mind as well everything within..

[atemcowboy]

Oxbow wrote:

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Appreciate your response...but it does not change the truth...per Scripture:
213
There is no Scripture that even hints of Mary "offering her son as a sacrifice".....
It does teach: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

havent you leanrned that you cant beleive anythingthat robert f says? his knowledge is limited for certain.

even the disciples didnt KNOW that he was to be crucified and rise again.

John 20:9:

Then the other disciple, who reached the tomb first, also went in, and he saw and believed; for as yet they did not understand the scripture, that he must rise from the dead.

Luke also indicated that the disciples of Jesus had not expected his resurrection, for Luke said that after Peter looked inside at the linen cloths, "he went home, wondering at that which had come to pass" (24:12). Numerous references to the apostles' skepticism of a resurrection appear elsewhere in the New Testament (Lk. 24:11,38; Jn. 20:24-25; Matt. 28:17).

mary didnt know either and robert always assumes something that isnt correct, and where he comes up with this foolishness is beyond me. it certainly doesnt come from God's Word.
for the sda satanic cultist, the link.http://www.tektonics.org/ tsr/tsr914.html

[truth]

when your rule and princes died everything died with them ..

[truth]

Why they need pure soul?

Where is real Jesus Christ tomb?

[atemcowboy]

Robert F wrote:

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Chuck new friend
I understand what you are saying. But don't you think she has a unique position? She is to Jesus the only earthly mother He had....And that he was under her care as a child....Is there anyone else on this earth given by God such a grace and such an honor and responibiliy?

LOL, mary doesnt even begin to compare with Abraham, first he left his home obeying the Lord, then most of all, he was willing to give up his son, the son that he loved so much.

key words for u, robert.[willing to give up].

while mary had no choice in the matter, Jesus was taken by force.

therefore in the eyes of God, Abraham was much more the better servant than mary could ever be
for it is written, it is better to Obey than to sacrifice(thats in the Bible for you robert and not changed by me).and since I love the OT, you can find it there.

[atemcowboy]

Sherlayne wrote:

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Catholic Girl, you seem to know your stuff. I learn a lot from you, thanks. One of many things that puzzle me about Mary. Jesus never once said to pray to her for special favors, plus her "Assumption"...pun intended, but that's pure "assumption", as the bible never mentions her death. She (according to Catholic teaching) "rose bodily" into heaven - how could a material thing be in a spiritual dwelling? and then they claimed she was crowned - spiritually perhaps, but a CROWN in heaven? If they can assume such things, what else can they assume? Do you see why I doubt? They even claim that because she was born sans original sin, she suffered no pain in childbirth...that's a story made up to justify why childbirth hurts - that dang old Eve did it again. Mary most likely gave birth just like any other woman - maybe even got stretch marks and that is NOT an insult.

[maybe even got stretch marks ]. Nah, couldnt happen to Catholic Mary. she retained a perfect figure and never even had a baby bump as Robert will attest to.

it is pathetic how catholics make her into something she would never have agreed to. in my reading of Mary, I find her to be a very humble young woman, willing to be the surrogate mom of jesus,at least until the day of His death, then like all Parents, her heart was broken.

[confrinting with the word]

ReginaM wrote:

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It's interesting that you bring up the exclusivity of a personal relationship with God that Protestants take such pride in. I've been noticing in recent readings here and there that while this can sound wonderful to some, it really is contrary to the very nature of God and the teachings of Christ. God is, after all, relationship....Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Christ taught love of God, other, then self....service not selfishness. Love cannot survive in isolation. The Body of Christ is in a word Communion.

~~~

YOU WROTE..

"Love cannot survive in isolation."

THAT IS A STATEMENT THAT IS AS FALSE AS YOUR CONSTANTINE-ISM..

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THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ONE ....MORE ISOLATED THAN JESUS... WAS ON

CALVARY'S CROSS..

HIS CRY WAS..

Psa_22:1 A Psalm of David.

My God, my God,

why hast thou forsaken me?

why art thou so far from helping me,.........

Mat_27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say,

My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Mar_15:34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted,

My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

-->YET HIS LOVE SURVIVED

WHEN <--

Isa 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and

--> THE LORD LAID UPON HIM THE INIQUITY OF US ALL.. <--

[truth]

may i remind you with my necu=no..

wicket rule as well others
i know they playing with me as well try ruin my family as they could without any shame

i am not care to much what they think not at all..

wicket forget that Jesus Christ is upon everything

evil and wicket is some trouble
they ruin and destroy many family
still they try posess everything and everyone
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooo
they will be destroy on the end
byyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[truth]

jesus say proply who they are
opkolise me lazovi lopovi krvnici i ubice
is that your justice

[hojo]

MICHAEL wrote:

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HOJO says.....
...Your anti-catholic "heretical condemning and judgemental preaching does NOT offend us either.
....but that "does not", "can no", "nor ever will" make you a Christian....
..The DEVIL!..the author of your bible only Protestant "chaos and confusion" of 42,001+ conflicting and contradicting interpretations.
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MICHAEL says.......Come on HOJO! tells us how you really feel?

You've got it!!! Word for word----and more on the way, as long as you (CONTINUE TO) "unload" your anti-catholic hostile "exaggerated garbage" and "heretical vengeance" against Jesus Christ and His One True Apostolic Catholic Church