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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 646444 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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#420516 Feb 6, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRAYERS..
Kay Marie is in a nursing home at present, going through therapy..She is recovering after her 21 days in the hospital.
Blessings to you and yours...
GOD IS FAITHFUL
all the time..
what happened to kay, I knew that she hadnt been on for some time. BTW, how about a first name for u? most of us have put our names up , kinda like a big family on here by now?

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#420517 Feb 6, 2013
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>An angel means ‘a messenger’. Cherubim and seraphim are specific
creatures that we often call angels. Michael, the Archangel, is a
title for the highest messenger who is as God. That’s what that means.
When it says, the Lord Himself comes down from heaven with the voice
of the Archangel it means the Lord comes with the voice of the
greatest messenger. Directly from the Greek, that’s what it’s saying.
And if you go to Daniel 12:1 it says: At that time shall Michael stand
up, the great Prince that stands for the children of thy people.
For instance, the Bible says that Jacob wrestled with an Angel, and
then later it says he wrestled with the Lord. Well, he wrestled with
Christ. Jesus was the one. One reason I know that is that the Bible
says No man has seen the Father at any time. So if Jacob saw the Lord
he must have seen God the Son, and that would be Jesus. The Bible
tells us that Michael is the one who resurrected Moses in the Book of
Jude. So if He’s the resurrection and He’s raising the dead when He
comes down from heaven, Michael the Archangel is another title for
Christ.
only the sda thinks that Michael is Jesus. are you outing yourself.

Most Christians are amazed to learn that SDA teaches that Jesus is Michael the Archangel, but Ellen G. White said He was Michael, so if they changed this, they'd need to reject her as "the spirit of prophecy" and they'd not be the remnant church! So now they hold He's both God the Son, and Michael. In fact, Ellen G. White DENIED the deity of Jesus, who in 1903 said,“The man Christ Jesus was not the Lord God Almighty”(ms 140, SDA Commentary V, p. 1129). Yet, modern SDA claim to believe in Jesus' deity and the Godhead in their official statement of faith (SDA Believe,# 2 and 4).

It makes a great difference "who" Jesus really is, for 2nd Corinthians 11:4 warned there'd be those who'd teach another Jesus, preach a different gospel, and have another spirit. These marks identify cults, who invariably attack the Doctrine of Christ. Early SDA's denied Jesus' deity saying He was only an archangel. Their Commentary, volume 5, pg. 1129, cites Ellen White as saying...“The man Christ Jesus was not the Lord God Almighty.”

SOURCE: Ellen G. White (1903, ms 150, SDA; Commentary V, p. 1129)

John 1:1-3,14; 10:33; 1st Timothy 2:5; 3:16; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 7:4; Revelation 1:8; 15:3, 16:5-7; and 17:14--all show that Jesus is Almighty God. Ellen G. White is a LIAR! The REAL Jesus is the God-man Christ Jesus. He was never an Archangel! He's not God-angel-man. Clearly, SDA's have a different Jesus, a false Jesus. It is important to note that Jehovah's Witnesses (JW's) teach the same false doctrine, i.e., that Jesus is Michael. As with

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#420518 Feb 6, 2013
if michael is jesus, which the sda satanic follower claims, why does this verse indicate otherwise. since we know that jesus is more powerful than satan and aint afraid of him.

Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

been telling you people for 3 years that this kook is a sda and belongs to the devil and when he opens his mouth, more and more satanic sda knowledge comes from him.

now you know why the sda cultist hates me as he does.lol the devil cant stand to be mocked and exposed for what he is.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#420519 Feb 6, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>robert, i didnt expect an aanswer rom for one simple reasdon, a person cant testify of something that they dont possess. and not to tell someone is a sin, you do know that ,right?
But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
and yes, a person will remember when they gave their life to the Lord. Paul never forgot His Experience, nor will I.
as I have said oftimes.
my first birth, I cant remember,
my second birth, I cant forget.
and EVERY CHRISTIAN on this forum knows when god forgave them of their sins.
and no catholic can remember when they got sprinkled by pa water when they were a baby.
robert, you aint even as close to being saved as the sda cultist on this forum is. you are more accountable than he is, you do have a modicum of intelligence, he doesnt.
Sitting on a plane by you in Vietnam you say ? LMBO !!!

One has to hang on to every word you post concerning scripture just to catch the lies you slip in just like Satan does.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#420520 Feb 6, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Now Preston, when you say "God told you to do this", did you hear an audible voice?
Oh Don't You know It and Grandpa's to........lmbo

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#420521 Feb 6, 2013
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>An angel means ‘a messenger’. Cherubim and seraphim are specific
creatures that we often call angels. Michael, the Archangel, is a
title for the highest messenger who is as God. That’s what that means.
When it says, the Lord Himself comes down from heaven with the voice
of the Archangel it means the Lord comes with the voice of the
greatest messenger. Directly from the Greek, that’s what it’s saying.
And if you go to Daniel 12:1 it says: At that time shall Michael stand
up, the great Prince that stands for the children of thy people.
For instance, the Bible says that Jacob wrestled with an Angel, and
then later it says he wrestled with the Lord. Well, he wrestled with
Christ. Jesus was the one. One reason I know that is that the Bible
says No man has seen the Father at any time. So if Jacob saw the Lord
he must have seen God the Son, and that would be Jesus. The Bible
tells us that Michael is the one who resurrected Moses in the Book of
Jude. So if He’s the resurrection and He’s raising the dead when He
comes down from heaven, Michael the Archangel is another title for
Christ.
the Lord Himself comes down from heaven with the voice
of the Archangel it means the Lord comes with the voice of the
greatest messenger.

this verse in thess, is meaning that an archangel is[accompaning] Jesus, along with Gods trumpet. using your reasoning that Jesus is an archangel, we could assume that Jesus is also a trumpet.lol

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#420522 Feb 6, 2013
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>Sitting on a plane by you in Vietnam you say ? LMBO !!!
One has to hang on to every word you post concerning scripture just to catch the lies you slip in just like Satan does.
I came on this forum in 08, my testimony is the same now as it was back then. the truth never changes.lol

BTW, at no time have I ever said that I was on a [plane]when I saw Him as you or someone else has lied about.

planes are not used to pick up wounded and/or dead soldiers in battle, just to let you know. they[planes] were used by the AF to fly bodies as well as wounded back to the world. I myself landed at Andrews AF base and taken by ambulance to a army fort hospital
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#420523 Feb 6, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>only the sda thinks that Michael is Jesus. are you outing yourself.
Most Christians are amazed to learn that SDA teaches that Jesus is Michael the Archangel, but Ellen G. White said He was Michael, so if they changed this, they'd need to reject her as "the spirit of prophecy" and they'd not be the remnant church! So now they hold He's both God the Son, and Michael. In fact, Ellen G. White DENIED the deity of Jesus, who in 1903 said,“The man Christ Jesus was not the Lord God Almighty”(ms 140, SDA Commentary V, p. 1129). Yet, modern SDA claim to believe in Jesus' deity and the Godhead in their official statement of faith (SDA Believe,# 2 and 4).
It makes a great difference "who" Jesus really is, for 2nd Corinthians 11:4 warned there'd be those who'd teach another Jesus, preach a different gospel, and have another spirit. These marks identify cults, who invariably attack the Doctrine of Christ. Early SDA's denied Jesus' deity saying He was only an archangel. Their Commentary, volume 5, pg. 1129, cites Ellen White as saying...“The man Christ Jesus was not the Lord God Almighty.”
SOURCE: Ellen G. White (1903, ms 150, SDA; Commentary V, p. 1129)
John 1:1-3,14; 10:33; 1st Timothy 2:5; 3:16; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 7:4; Revelation 1:8; 15:3, 16:5-7; and 17:14--all show that Jesus is Almighty God. Ellen G. White is a LIAR! The REAL Jesus is the God-man Christ Jesus. He was never an Archangel! He's not God-angel-man. Clearly, SDA's have a different Jesus, a false Jesus. It is important to note that Jehovah's Witnesses (JW's) teach the same false doctrine, i.e., that Jesus is Michael. As with
Forget Ellen White and the SDA what does Scripture point to you have been provided with.
Biblically was not the Kings son the Prince always the Captian of the Armed forces it is the same order in Heaven. You believe how you want. I will look into the deeper and spiritual message God present's throug his Holy Word.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#420524 Feb 6, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
if michael is jesus, which the sda satanic follower claims, why does this verse indicate otherwise. since we know that jesus is more powerful than satan and aint afraid of him.
Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
been telling you people for 3 years that this kook is a sda and belongs to the devil and when he opens his mouth, more and more satanic sda knowledge comes from him.
now you know why the sda cultist hates me as he does.lol the devil cant stand to be mocked and exposed for what he is.
When Steven was brought before the Jewish Leaders in the Sanhedrin,

just before he was stoned; Stephen started telling the story of their

fathers. In that story, he says that Moses talked with the Angel on

Mount Sinai.

"This is that Moses who said to the children of Israel,'The LORD your

God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brethren. Him

you shall hear'.
"This is he who was in the congregation in the wilderness with the

Angel who spoke to him on Mount Sinai, and with our fathers, the one

who received the living oracles to give to us, Acts 7:37-38.
Stephen's story agrees with John 1:18 in the specific example of

Moses, saying that Moses actually talked to the Angel or Michael the

Archangel on Mount Sinai.

Early on, in the Exodus, God promised to send an Angel to go before

them.

Behold, I send an Angel before you to keep you in the way and to bring

you into the place which I have prepared.
Beware of Him and obey His voice; do not provoke Him, for He will not

pardon your transgressions; for My name is in Him. Exodus 23:20-21
So, this Angel has God's name. He has the name of Jehovah or Yahweh

(YHWH) because God's name is in Him.

Now Paul just comes out with it and tells us that this Angel is Jesus!

Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our

fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea,
all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea,
all ate the same spiritual food,
and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that

spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ. 1

Corinthians 10:1-4.
That Rock was Christ. Who is Paul talking about? Let's go to Exodus

and find specifically who it is that Paul is referring to, because I

have always thought that the angel led them. He didn't follow the camp

of Israel, did He?

And the Angel of God, who went before the camp of Israel, moved and

went behind them; and the pillar of cloud went from before them and

stood behind them.
So it came between the camp of the Egyptians and the camp of Israel.

Thus it was a cloud and darkness to the one, and it gave light by

night to the other, so that the one did not come near the other all

that night.
Then Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the LORD caused

the sea to go back by a strong east wind all that night, and made the

sea into dry land, and the waters were divided.
So the children of Israel went into the midst of the sea on the dry

ground, and the waters were a wall to them on their right hand and on

their left.
And the Egyptians pursued and went after them into the midst of the

sea, all PharaohÕs horses, his chariots, and his horsemen.
Now it came to pass, in the morning watch, that the LORD looked down

upon the army of the Egyptians through the pillar of fire and cloud,

and He troubled the army of the Egyptians. Exodus 14:19-24.

Paul in 1 Corinthians 10 is specifically speaking of the crossing of

the red sea and of that cloud where God was. So Paul identifies Him as

continued
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#420525 Feb 6, 2013
Jesus. Now in Exodus, we see that it is the Angel of God who is in the

cloud that went behind to go between the camp of Israel and the

Egyptians.

So Paul is clearly saying that the Angel of God is Jesus. When the

LORD looks down and causes trouble for the Egyptians, we now know that

it was Jesus who did these things because He has God's name in Him.

Isaiah adds to this thought by saying that the Angel of His Presence

has saved, redeemed, and carried Israel all throughout the days of

old. Isaiah says that this angel became their Savior!

I will mention the lovingkindnesses of the LORD And the praises of the

LORD, According to all that the LORD has bestowed on us, And the great

goodness toward the house of Israel, Which He has bestowed on them

according to His mercies, According to the multitude of His

lovingkindnesses.
For He said, "Surely they are My people, Children who will not lie."

So He became their Savior.
In all their affliction He was afflicted, And the Angel of His

Presence saved them; In His love and in His pity He redeemed them; And

He bore them and carried them All the days of old. Isaiah 63:7-9
So the angel that has The Father's name in Him, who is also called the

the Jews that Abraham rejoiced to see Jesus in His day. He appariently

said it in such a way that the Jews realized that Jesus was saying

that He knew Abraham personally and had talked with him. They were

incredulous: You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen

Abraham?

It should be clear that Jesus was actually identifying Himself as the

I AM, that it was He who had talked to Abraham and Moses. By saying: I

AM, He was specifically quoting the Old Testament. And He knew what

would be their reaction, because they knew what "I AM" refered to, and

they would not allow themselves to believe that all the prophecies

were being fulfilled.

All these Scripture, when put together, help us to realize that the

Angel of the LORD is really Jesus. Jesus is I AM. He said that He knew

and talked to Abraham and that Abraham knew Him!

Angel of His Presence has always been the Savior of Israel all through

the days of old. He has saved, redeemed, and carried them. It is no

wonder that Paul identifies Him as being Christ.

Perhaps the best Old Testament source for connecting the angel of the

Lord with God is the burning bush experience of Moses:

And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of

the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with

fire, and the bush was not consumed.
And Moses said, I will now turn aside, and see this great sight, why

the bush is not burnt.
And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him

out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said,

Here am I.
And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy

feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground.
Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the

God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was

afraid to look upon God.
And the LORD said, I have surely seen the affliction of my people

which are in Egypt, and have heard their cry by reason of their

taskmasters; for I know their sorrows; Exodus 3:2-7
The angel of the Lord appears before Moses in a burning bush that does

not burn up, yet as we read into the experience (above) we see that it

is God Himself. Also notice that the same thing that was told Joshua

was also told Moses. Both were instructed to take off their shoes

since they were now standing on holy ground. It is because they were

now in the presence of God! This must be none other than Jesus/Michael

the Archangel!

continued
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#420526 Feb 6, 2013
continued

Later, when asked what His name was, He identified Himself as: "I am".

Then Moses said to God, "Indeed, when I come to the children of Israel

and say to them,'The God of your fathers has sent me to you,' and

they say to me,'What is His name?' what shall I say to them?"
And God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM." And He said, "Thus you shall

say to the children of Israel,'I AM has sent me to you.'"
Moreover God said to Moses, "Thus you shall say to the children of

Israel:'The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of

Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name

forever, and this is My memorial to all generations.' Exodus 3:13-15
In verse 15 we have a very interesting statement: This is My name

forever, and this is My memorial to all generations. In Isaiah, we see

that His people will know Him by His name and when He comes, they will

know it:

"Therefore My people shall know My name; Therefore they shall know in

that day That I am He who speaks:'Behold, it is I.'" Isaiah 52:6
Who is it that is speaking here in Isaiah? When Jesus was saying:

Behold, it is I, many rejected Him, but His people knew Him!

When Jesus was on earth, He also identified Himself as "I am".

"Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was

glad."
Then the Jews said to Him, "You are not yet fifty years old, and have

You seen Abraham?"
Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was,

I AM."
Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and

went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed

by. John 8:57-59
Jesus used the same name that He used in talking to Moses. Everyone

knew Who Jesus was referring to when He said "I AM", and they acted

immediately. They picked up stones to stone Him because Jesus was

telling them that He is the "I AM", He is the God of the Old Testament

who spoke to the various patriarchs.

Another interesting point is what Jesus said in verse 56. Jesus told

Now, in Zechariah 3:1-2, we see another example where the Angel of the

Lord is identified as being God. also compare it with Jude 1:9.

The angel of the Lord came to Hagar several times. We see that Hagar

realized that it was God who talked to her:

And the angel of the LORD found her by a fountain of water in the

wilderness, by the fountain in the way to Shur.
And he said, Hagar, Sarai's maid, whence camest thou? and whither wilt

thou go? And she said, I flee from the face of my mistress Sarai.
And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Return to thy mistress, and

submit thyself under her hands.
And the angel of the LORD said unto her, I will multiply thy seed

exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for multitude.
And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child,

and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the

LORD hath heard thy affliction.
And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and

every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of

all his brethren.
And she called the name of the LORD that spake unto her, Thou God

seest me: for she said, Have I also here looked after him that seeth

me? Genesis 16: 7-13
And the water was spent in the bottle, and she cast the child under

one of the shrubs.
And she went, and sat her down over against him a good way off, as it

were a bowshot: for she said, Let me not see the death of the child.

continued
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#420527 Feb 6, 2013
continued

And she sat over against him, and lift up her voice, and wept.
And God heard the voice of the lad; and the angel of God called to

Hagar out of heaven, and said unto her, What aileth thee, Hagar? fear

not; for God hath heard the voice of the lad where he is.
Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him in thine hand; for I will make

him a great nation.
And God opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water; and she went,

and filled the bottle with water, and gave the lad drink. Genesis

21:15-19
We also see that while the angel of God was with Hagar that God opened

her eyes. Who could it be that will make a great nation of the boy.

Not an angel but God. And we see that the speaker identifies Himself

as I. "I will make him a great nation". So here we have the angel of

God saying that He will make the boy great. Who could this angel be?

It is Michael the Archangel who is now called Jesus the anointed one!

1 Thessalonians 4:16
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, <<< with

the voice of the archangel >>>, and with the trump of God: and the

dead in Christ shall rise first:

John 5:25
Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when

the dead shall hear the <<< voice of the Son of God >>>: and they that

hear shall live.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#420528 Feb 6, 2013
P.S.
Not a created angelic/messenger being but the Chief Messenger in this context.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#420529 Feb 6, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>I came on this forum in 08, my testimony is the same now as it was back then. the truth never changes.lol
BTW, at no time have I ever said that I was on a [plane]when I saw Him as you or someone else has lied about.
planes are not used to pick up wounded and/or dead soldiers in battle, just to let you know. they[planes] were used by the AF to fly bodies as well as wounded back to the world. I myself landed at Andrews AF base and taken by ambulance to a army fort hospital
Plane ot helicopter who cares that was not the point of your lies so don't evade what YOU said about seeing Christ sitting down next to you in Vietnam etc.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#420530 Feb 6, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>the Lord Himself comes down from heaven with the voice
of the Archangel it means the Lord comes with the voice of the
greatest messenger.
this verse in thess, is meaning that an archangel is[accompaning] Jesus, along with Gods trumpet. using your reasoning that Jesus is an archangel, we could assume that Jesus is also a trumpet.lol
1 Thessalonians 4:16
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, <<< with

the voice of the archangel >>>, and with the trump of God: and the

dead in Christ shall rise first:

John 5:25
Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when

the dead shall hear the <<< voice of the Son of God >>>: and they that

hear shall live.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#420531 Feb 6, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
if michael is jesus, which the sda satanic follower claims, why does this verse indicate otherwise. since we know that jesus is more powerful than satan and aint afraid of him.
Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
been telling you people for 3 years that this kook is a sda and belongs to the devil and when he opens his mouth, more and more satanic sda knowledge comes from him.
now you know why the sda cultist hates me as he does.lol the devil cant stand to be mocked and exposed for what he is.
Yes Percy why is that ?

Matthew 16:22-24

King James Version (KJV)


22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.

23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

Luke Chapter 4

The Temptation of Jesus
Luke 4:1-13

1And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,

2Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered.

3And the devil said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, command this stone that it be made bread.

4And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

5And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.

6And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.

7If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.

8And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

9And he brought him to Jerusalem, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple, and said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down from hence:

10For it is written, He shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee:

11And in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.

12And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

13And when the devil had ended all the temptation, he departed from him for a season.

Mark 4

39 And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.
Pad

Fishers, IN

#420532 Feb 6, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
I think what Fr. Dye is saying is we should take our well deserved lumps, learn from it and be confident in the fact that it's God's way of bringing about a renewal to holiness in the Church and a discarding of the filth and worldliness of the post Vatican II regime. It's happening now. Our parish has been a "training parish" for new priests out of seminary for years and I can't tell you how good it is to see these holy and orthodox men coming through the doors.
And he's right that Satan sees the Church as his enemy. He's not worried about the chaos in protestantism and he's happy to let them be fooled into believing they're safe from the scourge of abuse. I can't and won't spend my time posting protestant stories of abuse because it turns my stomach, and I also don't want to be like them. They're scared, they lack faith in their own systems and want to drag us down to their level. All they have on us is the scandal, I feel sorry for them.
All we have is the scandal? I think not AnthonyMN. We have nothing to gain from belaboring the fact that RC priests are subject to scandal presently,anymore than prot ministers would be in the same plight. Teachers in all types of schools face the same problem with the sex abuse scandals of this period in time.

Look at the traffiking in Asia and so on.It is a deeper problem of which your priests and the organization they represent,are entangled in with the allegations and constant reminder through the media of such things.We may forget,and than again another parish priest is facing charges and so on.

But I see teachers also in both the public and private schools facing huge problems with being accused of sexual improprieties.

What's sad is that recently a Bishop in Los Angeles apologized for 100 + some priests in that area alone who have been caught up in the sex scandal.

What is happening to so many of these priests?What is on their minds?Why are they involved in such desparing behavior? Well these questions could be asked of what is happening world-wide to children by many men on this planet who seek to have pleasure with them rather than to either abstain,or find a woman who will mutually agree to have intercourse with them?

I find also a disturbing pattern with Catholic priests, which has been an age old problem, when it comes to dealing with youth,and liberties are taken to enjoy the company of children sexually.This problem in other words of sexual abuse by priests has been in the RCC for centuries,not just to date.

By the way Protestants do not have a chaos problem,we read Scripture,allow the Holy Spirit to convict of sin,we learn to walk in the Spirit,and take God at His Word.

"But He gives more grace. Wherefore He says, God resists the proud,but gives grace unto the humble.
"Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." James 4:4-7.

Living a holy life is to submit to the Spirit,I do not see a Protestant who loves Christ unable to live a holy life, if he or she walks in the Spirit, Resists the devil,and is born of the Spirit of Christ.

The Holy Spirit is no respecter of persons,as men judge with discrimination,and their fallen human nature.

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#420533 Feb 6, 2013
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>Plane ot helicopter who cares that was not the point of your lies so don't evade what YOU said about seeing Christ sitting down next to you in Vietnam etc.
tell me how youcan prove that I am lying?

we would love to know that. just because you act like the devil and talk like the devil doesnt mean that I am lying when i say that Jesus was sitting besides me.

the devil is besides you constantly and it shows.lol

BTW, the Hebrew word for messenger and angel are the same, so it has to be taken in the context in which the writer is trying to tell us.

There isn’t any prevarication or syncophancy in you.lol

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#420534 Feb 6, 2013
forgot to give you that word. it is malak.look it up.

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#420535 Feb 6, 2013
and on the mount, it was Jesus in that Burning Bush since he is the [word] of God or Logos,

not an angel

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