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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 681967 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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#420442 Feb 6, 2013
Robert F wrote:
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preston
I am sorry preston. But when one accepts the Holy Spirit, one generally doesn't take down the date, and the hour. I leave that to the temporally minded.
I would rather not describe my experience on this sort of forum, not because of fear or ridicule, but rather depending upon an experience is more a belief, than it is of faith. And I accept that my beliefs change as my understanding changes.
(By the way. John7. I see nothing about a strict, or literal interpretation that the Spirit is given to ONLY those that believe on him....But of course you would. I would that you could see.)
I will keep praying for you.
robert, i didnt expect an aanswer rom for one simple reasdon, a person cant testify of something that they dont possess. and not to tell someone is a sin, you do know that ,right?

But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

and yes, a person will remember when they gave their life to the Lord. Paul never forgot His Experience, nor will I.

as I have said oftimes.

my first birth, I cant remember,

my second birth, I cant forget.

and EVERY CHRISTIAN on this forum knows when god forgave them of their sins.

and no catholic can remember when they got sprinkled by pa water when they were a baby.

robert, you aint even as close to being saved as the sda cultist on this forum is. you are more accountable than he is, you do have a modicum of intelligence, he doesnt.
LTM

Schreiber, Canada

#420443 Feb 6, 2013
Clay wrote:
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The bible is not as simple as you guys make it out to be. If fact, its just the opposite. It should be read in the form of topology; a geometric connection from the OT flowing into the NT. This is how you begin to understand Catholicism.
Christ started a Church. This Church added 27 books to the Hebrew books. It didn't replace the OT with a NT.
Who wants to know catholicism, I want to know God.
Catholic have change the contexts of the Holy Scripture, adding to and subtracting scriptures.
You not unlike the J.W. who created the Book of Mormons. catholic's is called the catechism.
You do not live by the Holy Scriptures you take credit for giving the world, and give us trouble for trying to living by the word of God.
To cover one lie catholic's have to tell another lie.
Your arguments about Mary is not logical, there is not prove Mary is Queen of Heaven, or remained a virgin.
The bible does not say Joseph had other Child by a previous marriage, but it does name children that he and Mary had.
Also the children were all younger then Jesus, so it is inpossible for them to be Josephs children.
Some catholic's say that Joseph was a virgin, and so was Mary's Mother. Not Just Mary. Remember Clay I have married into two catholic families. I have heard it all.
All catholic's don't believe the same things. I can tell you that.
ReginaM

Long Branch, NJ

#420444 Feb 6, 2013
marge wrote:
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But He answered and said, "It is written,'MAN SHALL NOT LIVE ON BREAD ALONE, BUT ON EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD.'"
Every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God....not every word that was written down.
ReginaM

Long Branch, NJ

#420445 Feb 6, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Robert does a very good job. This is evident in your frustrations. You been proven in error on your theology.
This has gotta be devastating to someone who's spent their entire lives telling everyone what scripture is saying. Now, rather than admit error, your going to call everyone idiots, including Ignatius; ordained a Bishop by the Apostles.
Hail Mary, full of Grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst woman and Blessed is the fruit of your womb Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death.
Amen.
Amen!

Oh, Mary, conceived without sin,
Pray for us who have recourse to thee.

Immaculate heart of Mary,
Pray for us.

Jesus, Mary, and Joseph,
Pray for us.

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#420446 Feb 6, 2013
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Robert F wrote:
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Oxbow
I am happy for you in your new found faith.
Stepping away and getting various viewpoints is the sign of a healthy mind.
We may believe differently, as our experiences dictate.
Your vain attempt to save face is duly noted...

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#420447 Feb 6, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
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Non refutable truth. Proof of that statement is in the fact that you did not, because you cannot. deny the truth as I expressed..
This is the most asinine statement I have seen on this forum..."Mary is the Immaculate Ark of the New Covenant" and, definitely, cannot be supported by the Word of God.
Oxbow

http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/apologia/saintbe...

This is a very readable side by side O.T. and N.T. comparison of Mary as being the Immaculate Ark of the New Covenant....Just look at the comparisons first, and then read into the article....

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#420448 Feb 6, 2013
Robert F wrote:
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preston
You are making an assumption about Joseph and Blessed Mary, about what they were thinking in Luke 2
The opposite assumption is more probable. They feared that Jesus' time had come. And that his disappearance was the doing of God taking him away as a sacrifice, and went back to the Temple after 3 days(remember Jesus was dead 3 days). And so they were sorrowful, even as his Blessed Mother was in sorrow when she looked upon Him on the Cross.
lol, I think that you are confusing me with Luke who according to you made this assumption in the 50th verse.

Luk 2:50 And they [understood not] the saying which he spake unto them.

man, you are complete stupid robert. the Bible says that they went one days march, and then his sinless mom(according to catholicism) noticed him gone, so they went back and it probably didnt take them one day as two could go faster than a whole crowd.

so where you come up with this 3 days is beyond me since that time is around 38 years or so in the future.

and I can see no sense of sorrow when they found him only relief.lol

you continue to amaze me with your nonsensical statements
ReginaM

Long Branch, NJ

#420449 Feb 6, 2013
LTM wrote:
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Who wants to know catholicism, I want to know God.
Catholic have change the contexts of the Holy Scripture, adding to and subtracting scriptures.
You not unlike the J.W. who created the Book of Mormons. catholic's is called the catechism.
You do not live by the Holy Scriptures you take credit for giving the world, and give us trouble for trying to living by the word of God.
To cover one lie catholic's have to tell another lie.
Your arguments about Mary is not logical, there is not prove Mary is Queen of Heaven, or remained a virgin.
The bible does not say Joseph had other Child by a previous marriage, but it does name children that he and Mary had.
Also the children were all younger then Jesus, so it is inpossible for them to be Josephs children.
Some catholic's say that Joseph was a virgin, and so was Mary's Mother. Not Just Mary. Remember Clay I have married into two catholic families. I have heard it all.
All catholic's don't believe the same things. I can tell you that.
Kindly give us the chapter and verse that says the Blessed Virgin Mary was the mother of anyone but Jesus. If you cannot do so, I'm afraid I'm going to have to call BS.

When you've done that you can then give us the chapter and verse that lists the ages of these so-called children of the Blessed Virgin Mary and St. Joseph.

Also, no Catholic would say that St. Anne, the mother of the Blessed Virgin Mary, was a virgin.
There is only ONE virgin birth and that is Jesus.

I don't doubt that you've heard it all...but you weren't hearing it through your ears.

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#420450 Feb 6, 2013
Clay wrote:
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True. God didn't need to create you or me or any of us too.
Funny you say "my God can do anything".
EXCEPT make Mary sinless. Bring her to Heaven body and soul. You degrade Mary and offend Jesus when you say Mary was nothing special; "if it wasn't her it would have been someone else"
Don't tell that to me Preston. Tell that to Jesus Christ.
First God cant lie. so he told jewish women to multiply and have many children. mary being jewish would have to obey this commandment, so she couldnt stay sinless if she refused to Obey Gods comandment.

"bring her to heaven body and soul" yes He could, but you cant prove it, so it remains to be seen.

"Put the real presence of Jesus Christ in the bread and wine".
Nah, God is God, he doesnt place Himself anywhere except in the Heart and soul of a person. He is the Creator(you did know that right,) not the creation(a piece of grain,etc).

as far as degradng mary, I leave that to the simian level of catholicism
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#420451 Feb 6, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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Responding with a question, when asked a question, just shows that you don't know the answer tot he original question, and you would rather divert from answering, than be truthful with supplying an answer.
I'll consider this just another non-answer from another unknowledgable and uninformed Catholic.
Your evasion shows your true Self.
Ok!! We as Catholics "do" believe and "have always believed in Jesus!!! His OWN "expressed, spoken and stated words" in the Gospels regarding His One True (Universal) Church --Matt 16:13-21 and the Eucharist--John 6:47-59 regarding His "True Body and True Blood"-------So---New Age---(the question again is :"Why don't you"????
LTM

Schreiber, Canada

#420452 Feb 6, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
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Kindly give us the chapter and verse that says the Blessed Virgin Mary was the mother of anyone but Jesus. If you cannot do so, I'm afraid I'm going to have to call BS.
When you've done that you can then give us the chapter and verse that lists the ages of these so-called children of the Blessed Virgin Mary and St. Joseph.
Also, no Catholic would say that St. Anne, the mother of the Blessed Virgin Mary, was a virgin.
There is only ONE virgin birth and that is Jesus.
I don't doubt that you've heard it all...but you weren't hearing it through your ears.
I can't help it Regina, if you do not understand the Holy Scripture.
You have been give these scripture's a dozen times or more .
you can't accept them because your church has evident lies to exalt Mary .

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#420453 Feb 6, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
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Every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God....not every word that was written down.
those that are written down are all sufficient for Christians to know how they should live their lives, do you agree?LOL.

so much so, that we dont need another testimony of Jesus nor any words and rituals from another church that He didnt start, hint, hint.

the church that Jesus started was Jewish and thankfully He allowed we gentiles to be grafted into that First church
LTM

Schreiber, Canada

#420454 Feb 6, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
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Amen!
Oh, Mary, conceived without sin,
Pray for us who have recourse to thee.
Immaculate heart of Mary,
Pray for us.
Jesus, Mary, and Joseph,
Pray for us.
The only person here that can help you is Jesus.
Mary and Joseph can't not.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#420455 Feb 6, 2013
Robert F wrote:
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NASL
lol....I leave being clueless as to what God is doing up to you....
Oh, I guess that's because you don't believe in God in the first place....
No. I am not rethinking the truth....Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life.
Why don't you believe in the truth?
Well considering I believe what Jesus taught - your questioning is unfounded and seems to be mis-directing.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#420456 Feb 6, 2013
Robert F wrote:
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NASL
lol....I leave being clueless as to what God is doing up to you....
Oh, I guess that's because you don't believe in God in the first place....
BTW - I don't know what "God" can or cannot do....as I am not "He".

Those who think they know what he does or doesn't do, are only showing others how incomprehensible that person is to the workings of religion.

Also - I don't believe in your "God". That doesn't say I don't believe in some spiritual "Supreme Being", because I do.

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#420457 Feb 6, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
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Kindly give us the chapter and verse that says the Blessed Virgin Mary was the mother of anyone but Jesus. If you cannot do so, I'm afraid I'm going to have to call BS.
back at you. how about you showing us where she never had any more children? and if you say that she never had any children and was still married, then you must admit that she was a sinner since she didnt obey the commandment of God.

you catholics got to lie, and then throw out more lies to cover the first and it never ends until God punishes your church for all of its lies and its devilish attempts at protecting people like Law, et al.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#420458 Feb 6, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>First God cant lie.
Boy, making this sort of claim now.

Why is it that only certain people kow what "God" can or cannot do, while others, seem to be left out in the cold?

How is it that you, Preston, knows the mind of "God", and why is it that you, Preston, have not written a book on what "God" knows or doesn't know".

Why is it that you have taken so long to let other's know this "truth"?

Why didn't "God" just announce it to the whole world, so the whole world understands that, "God" doesn't lie?

You are a bold one, and making up stories about "God" just to appease your own mind and comfort.

Prove it.

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#420459 Feb 6, 2013
LTM wrote:
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The only person here that can help you is Jesus.
Mary and Joseph can't not.
why elevate joseph? he didnt even have anything to do with mary according to reg.

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#420460 Feb 6, 2013
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Chuck wrote:
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So where does your church stand on this passage:
Matt 1:24 When Joseph woke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him: he took his wife, 25 but KNEW her not until she had given birth to a son. And he called his name Jesus.
He can't face the truth...so he will not reply to your question...

And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS

Knew is the past tense of know. The defintion of know: Archaic To have sexual intercourse with.

Mary, as all women, lose their virginity when they first have intercourse.....and this is the act that produces children!!!!

Knowledge that is unknown to Catholics!!!!!!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#420461 Feb 6, 2013
hojo wrote:
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Ok!! We as Catholics "do" believe and "have always believed in Jesus!!!


Stop lying, no you don't.
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>His OWN "expressed, spoken and stated words"
Since Jesus never wrote anything down, everything you think is attributed to him was written second hand and decades later.

Strike #2.
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>in the Gospels

Qualifiers for Jesus?

Oh how nice!
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>regarding His One True (Universal) Church --Matt 16:13-21 and the Eucharist--John 6:47-59 regarding His "True Body and True Blood"-------
....non-answer....
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>So---New Age---(the question again is :"Why don't you"????
You aren't paying atention.

I utilize and use all of what Jesus taught. Please stop trying to say I don't, when you already know I do. This would make your statement a lie, thus you a liar.

Why do you lie about others?

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