Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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Chuck

Dublin, OH

#420155 Feb 5, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Joseph is a very powerful intercessor.
Give me any type of information that can prove this..I'd love to read about it or is this just another opinion of yours?
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#420156 Feb 5, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Mark 3:21
21 When his <<<family>>> heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said,“He is out of his mind.”
Mark 3:21
21 And when his <<<kinsfolks> >> heard of it, they went out to lay hold on him: for they said that he was beside himself.
Mark 3:21
21 When his <<<family>>> heard what was happening, they came to take control of him. They were saying,“He’s out of his mind!”
Mark 3:21
21 And when <<<his kinsmen>>> had heard, they went out to hold him; for they said, That he is turned into madness.
*****
2 Corinthians 5:13
13 If we are “out of our mind,” as some say, it is for God; if we are in our right mind, it is for you.
*****
Christ was possessed of one great propelling idea—to do his Father’s will.
Jesus characterized the worldly, disobedient person as blind, as sheep without a shepherd, foolishly going down a road to self-destruction of his own soul.
Who is really mad?
I'll stay witht he King James version stating friends.

The family come out of concern Mary was noit ashamed of her son, Yes his brothers and brethern had doubt and disbelieved as stated later on ion scripture.

Do you after being told of her conception and John the Baptist also :

3He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Isaiah.

Mathew 3

John Baptizes Jesus

13Then came Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized by him.

14But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized by you, and come you to me?

15And Jesus answering said unto him, Permit it to be so now: for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness. Then he permitted him.

16And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up immediately out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

17And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

That Mary did not know of these events as well.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#420157 Feb 5, 2013
Garlic man wrote:
Hey Michael,
Wanna see who can eat the most garlic tonight?
I could out do the both of you,it's my favorite fruit :)
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#420158 Feb 5, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
Anthony says..........you should link the protestant and public school discussion boards.
Michael says......ANTHONY!! did you forget what Father Rob said to you yesterday?
.....remember!!
Father Rob says.....
...."Throwing a rock at someone else's house is not the appropriate response to a scandal of our own"
Michael agrees......
He's right. I won't be pasting stories of abuse in protestant communities anymore.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#420159 Feb 5, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Mark 3:21
21 When his <<<family>>> heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said,“He is out of his mind.”
Mark 3:21
21 And when his <<<kinsfolks> >> heard of it, they went out to lay hold on him: for they said that he was beside himself.
Mark 3:21
21 When his <<<family>>> heard what was happening, they came to take control of him. They were saying,“He’s out of his mind!”
Mark 3:21
21 And when <<<his kinsmen>>> had heard, they went out to hold him; for they said, That he is turned into madness.
*****
2 Corinthians 5:13
13 If we are “out of our mind,” as some say, it is for God; if we are in our right mind, it is for you.
*****
Christ was possessed of one great propelling idea—to do his Father’s will.
Jesus characterized the worldly, disobedient person as blind, as sheep without a shepherd, foolishly going down a road to self-destruction of his own soul.
Who is really mad?
Mark 3

And from Jerusalem, and from Idumaea, and from beyond Jordan; and they about Tyre and Sidon, a great multitude, when they had heard what great things he did, came unto him.

9 And he spake to his disciples, that a small ship should wait on him because of the multitude, lest they should throng him.

31 There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him.

32 And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee.

33 And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?

34 And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#420160 Feb 5, 2013
Robert Dye wrote:
<quoted text>
It is strange how it never seems to occur to them, or to ask what it is we have, that they lack, that MUST be attacked, MUST be destroyed.
Rob
Since I am not Protestant nor any other denomination, my two cents will probably mean very little to you.

But what you have said above, I've explained to the forum many times on why - lack of following all of Jesus' teachings, but instead have decided to follow what men have stated.

It really isn't that difficult to understand, unless one CHOOSES on their own (or by other men) to believe in the way that they do.

You are no different.

In fact, you actually chose to accept the snake oil that has been distributed.

Please don't blame others for your own personal choices.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#420161 Feb 5, 2013
Oh yeah - for Dust Storm......

Self.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#420162 Feb 5, 2013
Catlickers wrote:
<quoted text>
There is only one intercessor and that is Jesus everything else is akin to voodoo.
Citation please.
Clay

United States

#420163 Feb 5, 2013
Catlickers wrote:
<quoted text>
There is only one intercessor and that is Jesus everything else is akin to voodoo.
There is one mediator between God and man.

Do I assume you never ask friends or family to pray for you? That's called interceding.
Clay

United States

#420164 Feb 5, 2013
Chuck wrote:
<quoted text>
Give me any type of information that can prove this..I'd love to read about it or is this just another opinion of yours?
That's interesting coming from a man of faith?

Do you have any proof of your theology? OTHER than your opinion of what the Bible says?
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#420165 Feb 5, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
There will be no rude awakening for anyone who asks Mary for help.
If I was Jesus, and someone honored my Mother AND asked her to talk to me, I would not be offended one bit. In fact, I would encourage all to love my Mother. She took care of me since birth. She fed me and clothed me. When I needed assistance I went to her. When I cried she was there. If I'm Jesus Christ, you could not please me more, than if you loved and honored my Mom.
By all means, if you're going to ask your biological mom for prayers, Preston, then you surely can ask Mary for prayers.
You would think since Percy believe the soul is conscious after death that Mary and all who have passed could hear your prayers that they also pray for your soul God in Christ name.
Go Figure.

Of course I belive as per scripture we sleep til the resurrection.
truth

Perth, Australia

#420166 Feb 5, 2013
feet
how its look with you Jesus
burning
under feet..i just return from bath..burning..feet as you see totaly burning in water when you go in bath
its sticky..does meter how much water past..still is hot..
do you understood prayers
do you understood Cross
do you understood suffering
do you understood cleansing trough prayers
do you understood him Jesus Christ

hell and your meaning
you show that to me

ispod nogu stenje
pakla zmaj
ispod nogu=under feet

do you understood transfer meaning
do you understood spiritual cleansing
how i fill when i pray

for long time i fill right side of shoulder

then ear

now lags feet hands

burning when you go in water under feet in bath..
under feet=tabani=talibani
tabani=feet
as fire
how much degree
raspadno stanje=very sticky

i fill very well
i am alright
i am still alive
my heart is very inside peace
i constantly asked myself
o where are come-from my energy
or elixir fill like that..

burning feet
taliban=taban=feet

now
do you understood meaning CROSS
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#420167 Feb 5, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
That's interesting coming from a man of faith?
Do you have any proof of your theology? OTHER than your opinion of what the Bible says?
Your opinion about Joseph...just like I thought. thanks
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#420168 Feb 5, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
Anthony says..........you should link the protestant and public school discussion boards.
Michael says......ANTHONY!! did you forget what Father Rob said to you yesterday?
.....remember!!
Father Rob says.....
...."Throwing a rock at someone else's house is not the appropriate response to a scandal of our own"
Michael agrees......
For you Michael, we are just throwing "pebbles" but if you continue down this "merry-go-round" anti-catholic "hate" carnival that you are so" addicted to" we (as Catholics) will "still" avoid the "rock throwing" and resort to the use of "boulders"!!!For people like you, "tough love" (along with prayer) seems to be the only way of "getting through" your "Unbelievably "busted" mind, heart and soul!!!
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#420169 Feb 5, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
He's right. I won't be pasting stories of abuse in protestant communities anymore.
....and neither will I.

Lets talk about something else.
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#420170 Feb 5, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
For you Michael, we are just throwing "pebbles" but if you continue down this "merry-go-round" anti-catholic "hate" carnival that you are so" addicted to" we (as Catholics) will "still" avoid the "rock throwing" and resort to the use of "boulders"!!!For people like you, "tough love" (along with prayer) seems to be the only way of "getting through" your "Unbelievably "busted" mind, heart and soul!!!
What is this? Pick on Michael day.

"Not the boulders!!" please!
ReginaM

Middletown, NJ

#420171 Feb 5, 2013
St. Augustine teaches us when he says:“We should act with beneficial rigor against recalcitrant persons, because he who loses the liberty to practice evil is more easily conquered for the good. Nothing is more unfortunate than the happiness of sinners, which allows them to do wrong with impunity and confirms them in their bad will”(Ep. 138 ad Marcel, Migne, PL, 33, 531).
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#420172 Feb 5, 2013
Catlickers wrote:
<quoted text>
There is only one intercessor and that is Jesus everything else is akin to voodoo.
How can someone with the name CAT LICKER be talking about Jesus?

You know why a cat licks itself? Because it can. Mee-ow!
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#420173 Feb 5, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>I could out do the both of you,it's my favorite fruit :)
What does your BREATH-O-METER read when you are done?
RCC Superiority So BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#420174 Feb 5, 2013
Robert Dye wrote:
<quoted text>
Depends on what you mean by "actions."
I imagine Cardinal Ratsinger's primary interest would have been disciplinary actions taken under Church law. Did you take this man out of ministry? Was it done according to canon law? What do you have him doing now? What steps are you taking to avoid such cases in the future?
These are what would be the area of review for the CDF. In HINDSIGHT, it is easy to say that the CDF should ALSO have been adressing how bishops were dealing with (or in too many cases, NOT DEALING WITH) civil authorities.
I can see how they made the mistake. It would be near epic folly for an office in Rome to try to keep up on laws on this stuff in every jurisdiction around the world.(There is enough variability - or was - in just the USA for it to be pretty confusing). It would probably be thought that the civil implications and pastoral response (tending to needs of victims and their families) be left to those close to the situation.
Obviously, THAT does not work (we're seeing the same samned thing with public schools and the boy scouts just now, unfortunately). There is an almost universal instinct to try to cover your failures.
I doubt if Cardinal Ratsinger knew how Mahoney was covering things up ... how he was focused on "avoiding civil litigation" and manipulting US laws by hiding the perps in other jurisdictions.
... I may get some points wrong.) In many cases, priests set to Servants ofte Paraclete were not welcome to return home.(I ca't say how often this was the Mahoney strategy.) Pronounced "cured," they were given assignments by the local bishop, and this proved to be a major mistake and disaster.
Conventional wisdom on this is STILL evolving. We know you can never return an offender to an assignment involving chidren.
This means NO parish assignment, and NO hospital ministry.
One might assume this means defrocking them, but that may not be such a good idea.
Benedict faced harsh criticism over a case in California where hedragged his feet on defrocking a priest who had already been removed from ministry.(60 minutes did a real hatchet job of Benedict on this one.) Benedict finally caved, and defrocked the guy, which gave hom the right to marry in the Church. He did, to a woman with young children, and guess what happened?(In my opinion, Benedict bears some culpability in this case. But you can't have it both ways. If Benedict is culpable for giving this guy permission to leave the priesthood and marry, how han he ALSO be blamed when he was dragging his feet, and expressing doubts that this should be permitted. Turns out he was right, and should have stood his ground, but the outcry, the outcry ... that he was "protecting an abuser," and "failing to protect childten." The man had been removed from ministry. The civil authorities were declining to prosecute. hat more could B do?)
Out of space. Sorry ..... edited for bevity
"It would be near epic folly for an office in Rome to try to keep up on laws on this stuff in every jurisdiction around the world."

With an eye to the topic of this board... with perfect teachings on morals, why would man's law matter in such cases?

As for "conventional treatment," etc., I believe that most of what was done was for the sole purpose of protecting the Church.

If what you presume were correct, why would anyone at the Vatican NOT welcome and open and honest investigation, a la Penn State. Or perhaps, limited testimony and release of specific documents, instead of standing wholly behind diplomatic immunity?

This does not conform with the RCC's claim of perfect teachings on morals.

This does not conform with Jesus' words in the Bible.

I (along with much of the rest of the world) believe that the handling of this decades-long issue is not indicative of an "ONLY TRUE" or morally-superior institution.

Average maybe, but far from morally superior. That's the reality IMHO.

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