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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 600077 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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truth

Perth, Australia

#420138 Feb 5, 2013
i am not care
what others satanic conspiracy set up

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MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#420139 Feb 5, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
BM and Mikey got their feelings hurt this afternoon and have been in a tizzy ever since. They can't stop posting, one after the other after the other after the other after the other after the other after the..........absolutely hysterical! Think I'll go get a snack. Anyone want to take bets on how many of their posts are in the fishbowl?
..We should be nominated for a PULITZER prize for our ON-LINE journalism of credable non-fiction religious news stories.

... We post the stories that the media FEARS to write.

thanks for reading our posts

MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#420140 Feb 5, 2013
Clay wrote:
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There will be no rude awakening for anyone who asks Mary for help.
If I was Jesus, and someone honored my Mother AND asked her to talk to me, I would not be offended one bit. In fact, I would encourage all to love my Mother. She took care of me since birth. She fed me and clothed me. When I needed assistance I went to her. When I cried she was there. If I'm Jesus Christ, you could not please me more, than if you loved and honored my Mom.
By all means, if you're going to ask your biological mom for prayers, Preston, then you surely can ask Mary for prayers.
We all love our grandmothers too. Why not prayers to Jesus grandmother? Because the church says no. I am sure you love your father as much as your mother for your upbringing, why no praise for step father Joseph??

Why does the church stiff arm Jesus step father Joseph? Didn't he have just as much parental guidance of the raising of Jesus as his mother Mary would have? No accolades to him?? Why? Because the church says no.

Can't you see, the church scripts everything the way they want it, and you just follow along without question.

I am sure you loved YOUR father as much as your mother, and wouldn't seperate their love for you. You do that when you don't thank Joseph Jesus step-father.

MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#420141 Feb 5, 2013
Garlic man wrote:
Hey Michael,
Wanna see who can eat the most garlic tonight?
I am sure you would win hands down over me eating garlic. 5 hours later you would also win the farting contest over me to.

Congratualtions! Garlic man. Something real important to be proud of.
truth

Perth, Australia

#420142 Feb 5, 2013
journal
juriti=run run run
atletic=run run run
at letic
at=U letic=fly
letic=letak
letak=i holy teresa will on the end time give flowers petal of roses one the end time
please pick me a rose from heavenly garden and send it to me with message of love
asked god for favour and tell him
i love him
Robert Dye

Tulsa, OK

#420143 Feb 5, 2013
RCC Superiority So BUSTED wrote:
<quoted text>
1... My apologies on Mark 5:1-20. Thank you for pointing that out. I now see it.
2... As for Mahoney, yes time will tell. I doubt if he will get the full Cardinal Law treatment. But I also doubt he will be shining anyone's shoes.
Serious question -- Do you believe that Benedict in his former capacity was unaware of Mahoney's actions?
Depends on what you mean by "actions."

I imagine Cardinal Ratsinger's primary interest would have been disciplinary actions taken under Church law. Did you take this man out of ministry? Was it done according to canon law? What do you have him doing now? What steps are you taking to avoid such cases in the future?

These are what would be the area of review for the CDF. In HINDSIGHT, it is easy to say that the CDF should ALSO have been adressing how bishops were dealing with (or in too many cases, NOT DEALING WITH) civil authorities.

I can see how they made the mistake. It would be near epic folly for an office in Rome to try to keep up on laws on this stuff in every jurisdiction around the world.(There is enough variability - or was - in just the USA for it to be pretty confusing). It would probably be thought that the civil implications and pastoral response (tending to needs of victims and their families) be left to those close to the situation.

Obviously, THAT does not work (we're seeing the same samned thing with public schools and the boy scouts just now, unfortunately). There is an almost universal instinct to try to cover your failures.

I doubt if Cardinal Ratsinger knew how Mahoney was covering things up ... how he was focused on "avoiding civil litigation" and manipulting US laws by hiding the perps in other jurisdictions.

It made sense (at one point) to send these guys for treatment (This assumes the absense of criminal charges, which was too often the case), and facilities set up for treatment are few. One in Arizona (? Servants of the Paraclete), one in Washington, DC, one in Hartford, Connecticut, and perhaps Detroit and Minnesota (Guest House, which mainly treats alcohol and drug abuse, but I *think* they may have tried treating sexual paraphilia as well). Except for dioceses where these facilities are located, a bishop would HAVE to send the man out of state for treatment.

(I wish I could look up what happened with servants of the paraclete, but can't close this window, or I lose the whole post. I may get some points wrong.) In many cases, priests set to Servants ofte Paraclete were not welcome to return home.(I ca't say how often this was the Mahoney strategy.) Pronounced "cured," they were given assignments by the local bishop, and this proved to be a major mistake and disaster.

Conventional wisdom on this is STILL evolving. We know you can never return an offender to an assignment involving chidren.

This means NO parish assignment, and NO hospital ministry.

One might assume this means defrocking them, but that may not be such a good idea.

Benedict faced harsh criticism over a case in California where hedragged his feet on defrocking a priest who had already been removed from ministry.(60 minutes did a real hatchet job of Benedict on this one.) Benedict finally caved, and defrocked the guy, which gave hom the right to marry in the Church. He did, to a woman with young children, and guess what happened?(In my opinion, Benedict bears some culpability in this case. But you can't have it both ways. If Benedict is culpable for giving this guy permission to leave the priesthood and marry, how han he ALSO be blamed when he was dragging his feet, and expressing doubts that this should be permitted. Turns out he was right, and should have stood his ground, but the outcry, the outcry ... that he was "protecting an abuser," and "failing to protect childten." The man had been removed from ministry. The civil authorities were declining to prosecute. hat more could B do?)

Out of space. Sorry
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#420144 Feb 5, 2013
Robert Dye wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah.
No comment on your claim that Mark 5:1-20 is somehownot in the lectionary, when it just so happens to be the gospel reading of the day.
Okay.
About what I expected youwould do.
As for Mahoney being summoned to Rome, I am not so sure that will be the "reward" you think it would be.
More likely, Benedict would be pleased to have him close by, for shoe-shine duty, or some other "important work."
If that doeshappen, and then criminal charges end up being filed in some surprise move, you can be assuredthat Benedict will be only TOO happy to order him back to the States, under penalty of sin, if not outright excommunication, should Mahoney fail to comply.
The guy is a disgrace, and I have a VERYhard time seeing anyone wanting to shield him from the consequences of his actions.
I know you don't believe that, but considering your secret knowledge yetundisclosed, I find it hardtoworry much about what you do or do not believe.
Rob
Father Rob says....

....As for Mahoney being summoned to Rome, I am not so sure that will be the "reward" you think it would be.

More likely, Benedict would be pleased to have him close by, for shoe-shine duty, or some other "important work."

Michael says....

........Come on! Remember Cardinal Law from Boston? The Cardinal who resigned in shame. The king of coverups. Cost the diocese $600 million dollars and covered up/destroyed hundreds of victims of abuse.

The pope summond him to Rome. Everyone thought he was going to get paddywacked running down the line between the cardinals but that didn't happen.



UPDATE!! Cardinal Law: Is now in charge of a Basilica in Rome instructing new american bishops, has a $120,000 a year salary has maids at his beckon call at his address in Rome. To top that former Cadinal Law is instrumental in the VATICAN crackdown of the 47,000 nuns in america AND THEY MOLESTED NO ONE!

http://threedogswriting.blogspot.ca/2013/01/c...

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Former-Bosto...

I am not seeing justice here Father Rob. What makes you believe Cardinal Mahony will be treated any different.

WAKE UP CATHOLICS!! Your voices need to start speaking up!!
Robert Dye

Tulsa, OK

#420145 Feb 5, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
We all love our grandmothers too. Why not prayers to Jesus grandmother? Because the church says no. I am sure you love your father as much as your mother for your upbringing, why no praise for step father Joseph??
Why does the church stiff arm Jesus step father Joseph? Didn't he have just as much parental guidance of the raising of Jesus as his mother Mary would have? No accolades to him?? Why? Because the church says no.
Are you SURE you were once a Catholic?
.
The mother of Mary is referred to as St. Anne, and her father as St. Joachim ( we don't teally know their names, but she must have had parents, and these names do as well an any. Many parishes are names in their honor.)

St. Joseph (notice the honorific? SAINT Joseph?) How can you seriously claim that the Church give him no honor?

You are looking more and more a fraud, with you very limited knowledge of Catholic faith and practice.

Rob
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#420146 Feb 5, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
Hmm, not a "name" to be found in the entire post. Why do you lie?
Not my "opinion", not anyone's "opinion". The Church banned bibles that were faulty translations. See Verbum Spes et Dei Est. Bible reading was and is indulgenced. Since she discerned the canon of scripture, what was and was not inspired, she and only she is in a position to determine if a translation is correct and thereby APPROVE (yes, APPROVE) it. Ties in with being One, True and all that.
:)
(Gotta watch those tricky links you depend upon so much...they're usually either incorrect, incomplete or taken out of context. That's what you get for relying solely on the internet for your information. Never a good idea.)
Hey ReginaM. Remember ole Cardinal Bernard Law from Boston?

The cardinal behind the coverup conspiracies that cost the diocese over HALF A BILLION dollars and left the archdiocese in shambles with hundreds of victims and their families.

Well your Bernard Law was summoned to Rome by the Pope who gave him a wink wink!, and the next thing you know former Cardinal Law is in charge of an important Basilica with maids, and a cozy residence in Rome not to forget his $10,000 a month salary.

Not to shabby if you can get work like that, for causing the biggest american catholic scandal in history, ruining lives and costing everyone who stuffed dollars into the collection baskets.

Do you have a maid? Do you make $10,000 a month? Lucky you too!
RCC Superiority So BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#420147 Feb 5, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
Father Rob says.......
....It has a SOURCE, and that source chose to make the attack against the Catholic Church, much more so than against any of their communities.
And Jesus TOLD us it was going to happen, so we ought not be suprised.
Michael says....Didn't the story of Jesus claim he went against his OWN religious leaders during his life while he remained a devout Jew? Wouldn't he have been claimed a heretic towards his own belief?
...if you read the posts from the catholics on this forum you will also see attacks, insults and name calling towards anyone not catholic. You never address those posts.
Catholics attack protestants.....Protestants attack catholics. Its a way of life. Each group believes they are superior over the other, and both claim to be superior over anyone that doesn't belong to either group using the very same God inspired doctrines to prove their own conflicting beliefs.
You wonder why educated young people today are not interested in the religions their parents practiced?
Organized religion has created more divisiveness, hatred, ignorance and fear in our world than any other entitity.
Roman Catholics whine about being attacked HERE?

How is the title of this board not an attack on Protestants?

How is reinstating prayers for the conversion of the Jews not an attack on Jews?

How is using the term "defective" for Orthodox not an attack?

Baloney. These RCC creeps make claims about perfect teachings on morals and their "vicar of Jesus" uses diplomatic immunity -- bestowed by Mussolini -- to avoid justice for sexually abused orphans.

Roman Catholics forget this and other "minor details" ... hundreds of which refute their absurd claims absolutely.

They have no retort save name-calling.

Question for Fr Rob -- beyond faith, after 1600 years -- what evidence do you have that the claims contained within the article of this board have any basis in fact?

How can we judge these claims by real-world standards?

How do we judge Islam. Maybe we can start there.
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#420148 Feb 5, 2013
Robert Dye wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you SURE you were once a Catholic?
.
The mother of Mary is referred to as St. Anne, and her father as St. Joachim ( we don't teally know their names, but she must have had parents, and these names do as well an any. Many parishes are names in their honor.)
St. Joseph (notice the honorific? SAINT Joseph?) How can you seriously claim that the Church give him no honor?
You are looking more and more a fraud, with you very limited knowledge of Catholic faith and practice.
Rob
My post was referring to what Clay stated. Everything in his statement referred only to Mary the mother. Everyone who posts on here about Jesus when referring about parents usually only refers to Mary and Joseph almost seems like he was non-important. Read many of the posts regarding this mattter.

What do you mean a fraud? I quit the church 14 years ago and like many catholics including the many on this forum who left did so for their own reasons. Don't claim superiority over anyone not like you.

If I spent 6 years in a seminary having one belief drilled into me, I am sure we would be on the same course.

MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#420149 Feb 5, 2013
..15 years ago the first roman catholic priest in america was charged with sexual abuse of a minor. Catholics were ASTONISHED and didn't want to believe it.

.. 12 years ago the first Bishop was found to be covering up for abusive clergy. Since then dozens have been implicated. 9 years ago CARDINAL LAW was defrocked and now appointed a plum job in Rome by the current Pope, Arch bishop in Philadelphia had his feet put to the fire last year, one of his monsignors sent to prison, now we have CARDINAL MAHONY going the same route as previous cardinals.

Sooner or later the scandal is going to land right on the lap of the Pope. That is when all the finger pointing will begin.

Catholics can be mad at me all they want. I didn't create this mess, your own leaders did, and they committed sins that they always told you from the pulpit to never commit.

What is the REAL agenda of the catholic church? It certainly can't be claiming to be advocates of justice and morality?
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#420150 Feb 5, 2013
Robert Dye wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you SURE you were once a Catholic?
.
The mother of Mary is referred to as St. Anne, and her father as St. Joachim ( we don't teally know their names, but she must have had parents, and these names do as well an any. Many parishes are names in their honor.)
St. Joseph (notice the honorific? SAINT Joseph?) How can you seriously claim that the Church give him no honor?
You are looking more and more a fraud, with you very limited knowledge of Catholic faith and practice.
Rob
Father Rob.....Why aren't you responding to my post regarding former Cardinal Law and Cardinal Mahony?

These are the biggest stories in memory in the catholic church.

Imagine the arrogance of former Cardinal Law who resigned his position for his lies and coverups, is now in charge of a basilica in Rome, and instrumental in investigating 47,000, 80 year old nuns in america because they won't speak out against Gays and women in authority positions in the church.

47,000 hard working women, who MOLESTED no one, under investigation by the same Pope that pardoned defrocked Cardinal Bernard Law that soon appointed him in charge of a Basilica in Rome at $120,000 a year.

What am I missing Father Rob? Where is your voice of anger?

Is there any justice in the church today?

Clay

United States

#420151 Feb 5, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
We all love our grandmothers too. Why not prayers to Jesus grandmother? Because the church says no. I am sure you love your father as much as your mother for your upbringing, why no praise for step father Joseph??
Why does the church stiff arm Jesus step father Joseph?
We do pray to Saint Ann and Saint Joseph - the Grandma and step father of Christ.
Joseph is a very powerful intercessor.(Patron Saint of the worker).

Also it should be noted, we pray WITH THEM; together to Jesus Christ Our Savior. I clarify that because, stating that we pray TO them only, has been taken out of context by Ideologues who attempt to claim we treat them as a deity.

Thanks for the inquiry about what we Catholics believe.
Now carry on with your agenda on child sexual abuse..
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#420152 Feb 5, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
If your so concerned for children, you should link the protestant and public school discussion boards you've been commenting on so we can verify your story. You are on those other boards aren't you, because the problem is much worse in those other institutions and you wouldn't want us to believe you're a phony now would you Mike?
Anthony says..........you should link the protestant and public school discussion boards.

Michael says......ANTHONY!! did you forget what Father Rob said to you yesterday?

.....remember!!

Father Rob says.....

...."Throwing a rock at someone else's house is not the appropriate response to a scandal of our own"

Michael agrees......
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#420153 Feb 5, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
We do pray to Saint Ann and Saint Joseph - the Grandma and step father of Christ.
Joseph is a very powerful intercessor.(Patron Saint of the worker).
Also it should be noted, we pray WITH THEM; together to Jesus Christ Our Savior. I clarify that because, stating that we pray TO them only, has been taken out of context by Ideologues who attempt to claim we treat them as a deity.
Thanks for the inquiry about what we Catholics believe.
Now carry on with your agenda on child sexual abuse..
I am just trying to be nice to you like I always am.

No need to sling mud at me.
Catlickers

Herne Bay, UK

#420154 Feb 5, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
We do pray to Saint Ann and Saint Joseph - the Grandma and step father of Christ.
Joseph is a very powerful intercessor.(Patron Saint of the worker).
Also it should be noted, we pray WITH THEM; together to Jesus Christ Our Savior. I clarify that because, stating that we pray TO them only, has been taken out of context by Ideologues who attempt to claim we treat them as a deity.
Thanks for the inquiry about what we Catholics believe.
Now carry on with your agenda on child sexual abuse..
There is only one intercessor and that is Jesus everything else is akin to voodoo.
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#420155 Feb 5, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Joseph is a very powerful intercessor.
Give me any type of information that can prove this..I'd love to read about it or is this just another opinion of yours?
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#420156 Feb 5, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Mark 3:21
21 When his <<<family>>> heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said,“He is out of his mind.”
Mark 3:21
21 And when his <<<kinsfolks> >> heard of it, they went out to lay hold on him: for they said that he was beside himself.
Mark 3:21
21 When his <<<family>>> heard what was happening, they came to take control of him. They were saying,“He’s out of his mind!”
Mark 3:21
21 And when <<<his kinsmen>>> had heard, they went out to hold him; for they said, That he is turned into madness.
*****
2 Corinthians 5:13
13 If we are “out of our mind,” as some say, it is for God; if we are in our right mind, it is for you.
*****
Christ was possessed of one great propelling idea—to do his Father’s will.
Jesus characterized the worldly, disobedient person as blind, as sheep without a shepherd, foolishly going down a road to self-destruction of his own soul.
Who is really mad?
I'll stay witht he King James version stating friends.

The family come out of concern Mary was noit ashamed of her son, Yes his brothers and brethern had doubt and disbelieved as stated later on ion scripture.

Do you after being told of her conception and John the Baptist also :

3He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Isaiah.

Mathew 3

John Baptizes Jesus

13Then came Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized by him.

14But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized by you, and come you to me?

15And Jesus answering said unto him, Permit it to be so now: for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness. Then he permitted him.

16And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up immediately out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

17And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

That Mary did not know of these events as well.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#420157 Feb 5, 2013
Garlic man wrote:
Hey Michael,
Wanna see who can eat the most garlic tonight?
I could out do the both of you,it's my favorite fruit :)

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