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RCC Superiority So BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#420003 Feb 4, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
No one is blaming mother church. Some clergy, worldwide have commited grave sins against children, BUT much of the rest of the worldwide clergy LIED, and COVERED up these most heinous sins..........from you and all others, who pay their salaries.
OK with that?
something is terribly wrong!
The RCC is no worse than the Southern Baptists.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#420004 Feb 4, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
Funny stuff! The site is run by a baptist who is apparently biased and bigoted toward her church. As we have all stated many times and as the Pope stated the evil must be purged from our midst. Obssessions from those in here who paint this is a Catholic issue in denial it even exists elsehwere or a problem is patently obvious to anyone who has bothered to read. Clearly you cannot read or chose to ignore the obsessive posts of your comrades. It is your choice. Self! lol I have stated many times that I commend the Protestant churches that have acknowledge their failures and problems and have even commended and emulated the reforms of the church. However the response is to a Southern Baptist who is painting a picture while proclaiming his house withour problem.
If you have a desire to protect children then the way to do that is to not focus on an organization. How many Protestant churches have paid for independent or Govt studies that have focused on their group? Does the media Nationally televise every disocvery in a local protestant church? How about what I pointed out in the schools. OOPS you brushed right over that. Catholics here nor I are justifying abuse nor are we trying to make it my church has less than yours. That is the childish, ignorant and bigoted approach that is coming from your side. We have acknowledged a problem. We have done much to change. However when denial that it even exists elsewhere is the common denominator that is something you need to wake up to. You cannot even begin to stop a problem or explore ways to prevent it and implement a universal system to deal with it until you do. Painting the Catholic Church as a uniquely peverted insitution is in fact finger pointing.
Now if everytime the media starts the story and they want to start off with comparing to New Agers or Baptists then there would be no bias right? Laws specifically changed or altered to go after one Institution alone is balanced and unbiased? Laws that state a person who accused whether deemed credible or not with no prosecution required to notify area residents, but ONLY for a Catholic priest. How is that not biased? It is indeed. I am told that during the Vietnam war they listed the killed on tv and radio every day to keep it present in peoples minds. Now if every time an accusation is made it was national news then the problem shines through. St Paul appealed to Ceasar. Why? Because he knew he wasnt going to get any kind of fair hearing. If you want to participate in a witch hunt by all means continue. If you have concern about children then say we can all do more.
Nothing in support of a "true church" of anything.

Again I will state, I don't belong to any so-called "church" or organization, except the one Jesus spoke of - "the Church".

Get over you lying about others, and maybe you will understand this too.

"If you want to participate in a witch hunt by all means continue."
- nah - all you Catholics seem to do just fine with finding fault in others.

- The only witch hunting is done by your own team (i.e. calling others heretics), and your support of pedaphilia through helping paying off the victims with your donations to your organization.

You may want to clean up your own house, before you start dictating what others should do.
Dust Storm

Pennock, MN

#420005 Feb 4, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
970
<quoted text>
You are comparing prunes to potatoes.....
No denying: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
However, sinning by the Catholic pedophile cadre and other abuses by priests and nuns, against defenseless children,is a way of life....you have proven that is not so in the denominations you named...thanks..
LOL...Ok continue with your denial festival, fortunately there are Baptists who acknowledge a serious problem. You can fight with them as its obvious your hatred toward Catholics is far more important than children. Thank you for proving you don't care again.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#420006 Feb 4, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
Funny stuff! The site is run by a baptist who is apparently biased and bigoted toward her church. As we have all stated many times and as the Pope stated the evil must be purged from our midst. Obssessions from those in here who paint this is a Catholic issue in denial it even exists elsehwere or a problem is patently obvious to anyone who has bothered to read. Clearly you cannot read or chose to ignore the obsessive posts of your comrades. It is your choice. Self! lol I have stated many times that I commend the Protestant churches that have acknowledge their failures and problems and have even commended and emulated the reforms of the church. However the response is to a Southern Baptist who is painting a picture while proclaiming his house withour problem.
If you have a desire to protect children then the way to do that is to not focus on an organization. How many Protestant churches have paid for independent or Govt studies that have focused on their group? Does the media Nationally televise every disocvery in a local protestant church? How about what I pointed out in the schools. OOPS you brushed right over that. Catholics here nor I are justifying abuse nor are we trying to make it my church has less than yours. That is the childish, ignorant and bigoted approach that is coming from your side. We have acknowledged a problem. We have done much to change. However when denial that it even exists elsewhere is the common denominator that is something you need to wake up to. You cannot even begin to stop a problem or explore ways to prevent it and implement a universal system to deal with it until you do. Painting the Catholic Church as a uniquely peverted insitution is in fact finger pointing.
Now if everytime the media starts the story and they want to start off with comparing to New Agers or Baptists then there would be no bias right? Laws specifically changed or altered to go after one Institution alone is balanced and unbiased? Laws that state a person who accused whether deemed credible or not with no prosecution required to notify area residents, but ONLY for a Catholic priest. How is that not biased? It is indeed. I am told that during the Vietnam war they listed the killed on tv and radio every day to keep it present in peoples minds. Now if every time an accusation is made it was national news then the problem shines through. St Paul appealed to Ceasar. Why? Because he knew he wasnt going to get any kind of fair hearing. If you want to participate in a witch hunt by all means continue. If you have concern about children then say we can all do more.
So "No you won't" post any of the Catholic priests in jail or pending probation hearings?

I know what you mean - you can't find any, just like me.

Understood - there must not be any of those types of individuals, huh?

You are just as clueless as your thinking that articles about individuals will claim the RCC is superior to others for salvation".

Far from it.
RCC Superiority So BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#420007 Feb 4, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, my goodness! It never stops with those BAPTISTS!!
1... AS THE AUSTRIAN/AMERICAN PRESS HAS FAIRLY REPORTED, the RCC is no worse than the Baptists.

2... The Baptists would surely use diplomatic immunity against sex-abuse victims too, if they could.

Question.... Does this mean Baptist teachings on morals are as perfect as those of the RCC?

:o)
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#420008 Feb 4, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
Gee Mikey do you have a crystal ball or how is it you know so much about what every Catholic does? You have obviously overlooked at the many changes and posts of what the church has done and its members. Only you Mikey the Atheist are the one who is the clear voice of children everywhere. How fortunate for children everywhere that you are here to point out that only that the Catholic church has abuse. Oops! you missed alot of them. How profound and intellectual your arguments are. You are truly amazing. I would look to studies of abuse in Canada there is so much for you to do as the spokesperson for the world and a shining example to all of what one person like you can do. How you manage to find the time when you live in here is another amazing feat. ;0
Dust Storm says.....

....Gee Michael do you have a crystal ball or how is it you know so much about what every Catholic does?

Michael says.....don't need a cyrstal ball! Just click into roman catholic church diocese websites........they tell the stories.

1) ARCHDIOCESE Los Angeles website........see RESOURCES, scan down, clergy files.(click) its all there. Read about archbishop Gomez stripping Archbishop Mahony of administrative duties. Right on the church website.

2) ARCHDIOCESE of Philadelphia website....click protecting children, click office investigations, click status of clergy.
Its all there.

3) ARCHDIOCESE of Boston website........its all there.

If you check your own DIOCESE website I am sure you will find much of the same clergy abuse information there too.

Don't blame MICKEY for what others have done wrong. I am a fighter for the defenseless. Too bad you weren't.
Dust Storm

Pennock, MN

#420009 Feb 4, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Nothing in support of a "true church" of anything.
Again I will state, I don't belong to any so-called "church" or organization, except the one Jesus spoke of - "the Church".
Get over you lying about others, and maybe you will understand this too.
"If you want to participate in a witch hunt by all means continue."
- nah - all you Catholics seem to do just fine with finding fault in others.
- The only witch hunting is done by your own team (i.e. calling others heretics), and your support of pedaphilia through helping paying off the victims with your donations to your organization.
You may want to clean up your own house, before you start dictating what others should do.
Yawn...Thanks for not caring about the children. Self
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#420010 Feb 4, 2013
Dust Storm...

http://www.la-archdiocese.org/Pages/default.a...

http://archphila.org/home.php

http://www.bostoncatholic.org/Offices-And-Ser...

Why would every diocese in america have to have "protecting children" webpages if this problem wasn't so wide spread?

4 years ago, they weren't protecting anyone but themselves.

7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#420011 Feb 4, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>try and learn your Bible and dont be so ignorant as that sda cultist is.
this person who used that oil on the feet of Jesus is NOT MARY MAGADELEN, IT IS THE SISTER OF MARTHA AND LAZARUS.and they are always portrayed as FRIENDS of Jesus, NEVER AS A SINNER, LIKE YOU ARE CALLING HER.
AS far as the other mary being portrayed as a prostitute, that name calling rests entirely on the catholic church and its pope, right?
and just to help you out as concening my being Born Again. reference John chapter 7, verses 36-39.
that Experience doesnt come to a person that is unsaved. in fact it has come to very few, since ther are few that walk in the Way of Holiness and you wouldnt undestand that since you are acatholic and depend on your rituals instead of being actually Saved and filled with the Holy Ghost Baptism.
and to help you out(you need it)for Mary to recognize that Jesus was the Messiah is ONE thing, to ACCEPT Him as Her Savior, QUITE ANOTHER. adn if she had His siblings had done that, she wouldnt have been outside lookin in. the fact that she told people to do what He said(at the wedding) didnt and doesnt mean that She had accepted Him as Her Savior.
YOU BEING A CATHOLIC LOOK AT THE CARNALITY OF MARY, I LOOK AT THE SPIRTUAL, BEING A CHRISTIAN.BIG DIFFERENCE !!!!!
Your more than ignorant and you are bold face lier when scripture plainly let's us know Mary new her son was also her savior.

Luke 1
Mary's Visit to Elizabeth
39And Mary arose in those days, and went into the hill country with haste, into a city of Judah;
40And entered into the house of Zachariah, and greeted Elizabeth.
41And it came to pass, that, when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit:
42And she spoke out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb.
43And why is this granted me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?
44For, lo, as soon as the voice of your greeting sounded in my ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.
45And blessed is she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord.
Mary's Song
46And Mary said, My soul does magnify the Lord,
47And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior.

And why not provide the scripture wrather than wait for a response in hope to provoke an argument Percy ?

John 11:2 This Mary, whose brother Lazarus now lay sick, was the same one who poured perfume on the Lord and wiped his feet with her hair.
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#420012 Feb 4, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
Yawn...Thanks for not caring about the children. Self
Its not the children today, its the thousands of adults who were children back in the day, and it has taken decades for them to get justice, at least the ones still living.

Quit being so smug and defending your church leaders.

The ones caught are just the tip of the iceburg...

Thank God we have a justice system that turns everystone over.

192 priests/bishops from LA ALONE!! 192...

7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#420013 Feb 4, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
hey robert F.
when you or any otehr catholic can or will have an Experience that agrees with this one of mine that Jesus talked about,
then come and meet me on even ground.lol
In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
and this was given to me 36 hours after I was Saved.
My first thought is that somewhere down the road you Grieved the Holy Spirit Away.
Dust Storm

Pennock, MN

#420014 Feb 4, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
Dust Storm says.....
....Gee Michael do you have a crystal ball or how is it you know so much about what every Catholic does?
Michael says.....don't need a cyrstal ball! Just click into roman catholic church diocese websites........they tell the stories.
1) ARCHDIOCESE Los Angeles website........see RESOURCES, scan down, clergy files.(click) its all there. Read about archbishop Gomez stripping Archbishop Mahony of administrative duties. Right on the church website.
2) ARCHDIOCESE of Philadelphia website....click protecting children, click office investigations, click status of clergy.
Its all there.
3) ARCHDIOCESE of Boston website........its all there.
If you check your own DIOCESE website I am sure you will find much of the same clergy abuse information there too.
Don't blame MICKEY for what others have done wrong. I am a fighter for the defenseless. Too bad you weren't.
Yeah Mikey like I said you are shining light for children everywhere. No one has done more than you and abuse has only occured in Catholic Churches and nothing was ever or has been done. Yawn..
RCC Superiority So BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#420015 Feb 4, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
Why did the scriptures waste their time telling us about all the miracles? The stories of Jesus running 4,000 pigs off a cliff ruining some poor towns economy. WHY tell us that?
According to the scriptures the miracle/pig stories had no affect what-so-ever on the outcome of this mans fate.
I wonder why those verses are not in the RCC's Mass reading cycle?

A few hundred years ago, the Bible was on the RCC's list of prohibited books (verifiable and "explainable" fact).

Maybe someone has a link to the official RCC interpretation?

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#420016 Feb 4, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>try and learn your Bible and dont be so ignorant as that sda cultist is.
this person who used that oil on the feet of Jesus is NOT MARY MAGADELEN, IT IS THE SISTER OF MARTHA AND LAZARUS.and they are always portrayed as FRIENDS of Jesus, NEVER AS A SINNER, LIKE YOU ARE CALLING HER.
AS far as the other mary being portrayed as a prostitute, that name calling rests entirely on the catholic church and its pope, right?
and just to help you out as concening my being Born Again. reference John chapter 7, verses 36-39.
that Experience doesnt come to a person that is unsaved. in fact it has come to very few, since ther are few that walk in the Way of Holiness and you wouldnt undestand that since you are acatholic and depend on your rituals instead of being actually Saved and filled with the Holy Ghost Baptism.
and to help you out(you need it)for Mary to recognize that Jesus was the Messiah is ONE thing, to ACCEPT Him as Her Savior, QUITE ANOTHER. adn if she had His siblings had done that, she wouldnt have been outside lookin in. the fact that she told people to do what He said(at the wedding) didnt and doesnt mean that She had accepted Him as Her Savior.
YOU BEING A CATHOLIC LOOK AT THE CARNALITY OF MARY, I LOOK AT THE SPIRTUAL, BEING A CHRISTIAN.BIG DIFFERENCE !!!!!
preston

You just wrote: "....for Mary to recognize that Jesus was the Messiah is ONE thing, to ACCEPT Him as Her Savior, QUITE ANOTHER. adn if she had His siblings had done that, she wouldnt have been outside lookin in. the fact that she told people to do what He said(at the wedding) didnt and doesnt mean that She had accepted Him as Her Savior.
YOU BEING A CATHOLIC LOOK AT THE CARNALITY OF MARY..."

Response: Every evening of the year, the prayer of the Church includes the Magnificat spoken by Mary in Luke 1.....

And part of this response is Luke 1: 46-47

" And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,

And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour."

From what you write of Mary's OF "NOT ACCEPTING" Jesus as her Savior,(at least outside looking in) and you call yourself learned in the Bible..., well, I just don't know anything other than for you to forget all you have learned, get on your knees, repent, and ask Jesus into your heart....

There is nothing that says the Blessed Mother and Jesus' relatives did not know and accept He was the Messiah, though they may not have fully understood until after His death and ressurrection.

Your prejudice against the humanity of Jesus through Mary is quite astounding. Please don't repeat it. It is very hurtful to Jesus. If you don't understand, just make an inquiry, don't presume you are correct, and the rest of Christianity is wrong.
RCC Superiority So BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#420017 Feb 4, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
Its not the children today, its the thousands of adults who were children back in the day, and it has taken decades for them to get justice, at least the ones still living.
Quit being so smug and defending your church leaders.
The ones caught are just the tip of the iceburg...
Thank God we have a justice system that turns everystone over.
192 priests/bishops from LA ALONE!! 192...
I would think that people of God would want answers.

We discover that most of the 29 cases in Philly, PA were not reported for the John Jay Report.

Now, how many of the 192 cases in LA, CA were not reported for the John Jay Report?

It never ends with these creeps. They attack us, they attack the media, they attack Ireland, they attack the USA, they attack Austria -- but when facts come to light that show how the Vatican has been stonewalling their victims (and the world) once again -- the creeps are silent or make excuses.

Imagine -- the RCC lying repeatedly to a major Catholic-supported University, charged with giving a fair and honest reporting to the world!!!

Of course, the creeps see nothing wrong.

That's the definition of creep.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#420018 Feb 4, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
Yawn...Thanks for not caring about the children. Self
Oh I care about the children, but please stop diverting from your own faults of supporting the abusers, okay?

I left your organization, to show solidarity to all those who have been abused.

Looks as though I have done more to help those children than you can even muster up and be honest about.

Go on diverting and deflecting from the truths DS.

People with your mentality are surely not noticing the children, but have all their eyes on the priests, bishops and even cardinals.

Please don't place your faults upon me, when they clearly show that they have nothing to do with me, and plainly show how you have helped perpetuate the abusers.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#420019 Feb 4, 2013
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah Mikey like I said you are shining light for children everywhere. No one has done more than you and abuse has only occured in Catholic Churches and nothing was ever or has been done. Yawn..
You remind me of a petualant child holding his hands over his ears and closing his eyes, all the while repeating "la-la-la-la-la!"

Stop with the insults and start reading the facts about your church.

Then stop supporting them.

It really isn't that difficult to help protect the children.

One just needs to step forward and admit the truths, instead of hiding behind the robes of your heirarchy.

Self.
marge

Ames, IA

#420020 Feb 4, 2013
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
There is nothing that says the Blessed Mother and Jesus' relatives did not know and accept He was the Messiah, though they may not have fully understood until after His death and ressurrection.
Your prejudice against the humanity of Jesus through Mary is quite astounding. Please don't repeat it. It is very hurtful to Jesus. If you don't understand, just make an inquiry, don't presume you are correct, and the rest of Christianity is wrong.
Robert, it does say His own relatives and family, and your right after His death and resurrection many understood more fully.

1Jesus left that part of the country and returned with his disciples to Nazareth, his hometown. 2The next Sabbath he began teaching in the synagogue, and many who heard him were amazed. They asked,“Where did he get all this wisdom and the power to perform such miracles?” 3Then they scoffed,“He’s just a carpenter, the son of Mary and the brother of James, Joseph, Judas, and Simon. And his sisters live right here among us.” They were deeply offended and refused to believe in him.

4Then Jesus told them,“A prophet is honored everywhere except in his own hometown and >among his relatives and his own family.” 5And because of their unbelief,< he couldn’t do any miracles among them except to place his hands on a few sick people and heal them. 6And he was amazed at their unbelief.
marge

Ames, IA

#420021 Feb 4, 2013
Robert the above was from Mark 6, and here again in Matt 13 He says the same;

And they took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, "Only in his hometown and in his own house is a prophet without honor."

And here His family says;

Mark 3:21
When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, "He is out of his mind."

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#420022 Feb 4, 2013
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>Your more than ignorant and you are bold face lier when scripture plainly let's us know Mary [k]new[k, I corrected it for your por spaling, lol] her son was also her savior.
Luke 1
Mary's Visit to Elizabeth
39And Mary arose in those days, and went into the hill country with haste, into a city of Judah;
40And entered into the house of Zachariah, and greeted Elizabeth.
41And it came to pass, that, when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit:
42And she spoke out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb.
43And why is this granted me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?
45And blessed is she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord.
Mary's Song
46And Mary said, My soul does magnify the Lord,
47And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior.
And why not provide the scripture wrather than wait for a response in hope to provoke an argument Percy ?
John 11:2 This Mary, whose brother Lazarus now lay sick, was the same one who poured perfume on the Lord and wiped his feet with her hair.
"this person who used that oil on the feet of Jesus is NOT MARY MAGADELEN, IT IS THE SISTER OF MARTHA AND LAZARUS.and they are always portrayed as FRIENDS of Jesus, NEVER AS A SINNER, LIKE YOU ARE CALLING HER."
these are the words that I used to show robert that this was not the sinner Mary, and all you are doing is showing the world that my statement was CORRECT. SO WHATS THE BEEF? LOL.

getting back to Mary, the Mother of jesus, It is my opinion that Mary never got Saved until after His death.when she then began to walk with His Disciples instead of being outside the gate,looking in.LOL. and then like many others at Pentecost, she received the Holy Spirit, and there are many denominations that would insist that would have been the time that she got Saved. knowing that jesus is the Savior and accepting Him as your personal Savior are two entirely different things. as several have posted verses that show His siblings didnt believe in Him as the messiah, you would have thought that Mary [knowing] then that he was the Messiah would have taught her children better. I know that I have taught my children that Jesus is Lord.as a senior, my son wrote for a grant that he was brought up in a religious family. he got it of course. and it paid for his tutution and books all thru college.

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