Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

[Anthony MN]

MICHAEL wrote:

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My wife is as disgusted as I am, and she is not afraid like you catholics to say so. Where is your wifes voice? SILENCE!
I don't make up the stories Anthony they come along as they do. Thanks to your church leaders themselves. The arch-diocese of Los Angeles just posted the stories of hundreds of priests that have been bad. Right on the arch-diocese website. I wonder what the followers will say when they start reading how big of FOOLS THEY HAVE BEEN for all these years, yet YOU again, keep defending these guys.
Catholics themselves are the reason these stories have gone on so long. Catholics themselves are culpable for much of what has happened always looking the other way and remaining ever SILENT never demanding accounability.
You get what you get.
Very sad.
I will always defend people taken advantage of, whether men, women or children......you should try it.

The archdiocese posted if on their own website? I thought they're trying to keep it all hidden?

[Anthony MN]

MICHAEL wrote:

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My child would never be going back to that school again. Would yours?
Did you read what the Arch-diocese of LosAngeles posted on their website to all the followers so they can learn what the hell has been going on behind their backs for the last 50 years?
Below. Just posted!.....ARCH-DIOCESE of Los Angeles website.....read under RESOURCES........open up: clergy files......
Over 100 priests.......just from LA
http://www.la-archdiocese.org/Pages/default.a...
Where have all the followers been the past 50 years as these priests listed gave themselves the eucharist at every mass they said as they told the followers to never receive holy communion with such sins on their souls.
HIPOCRICY!
The roman catholic church is in big trouble as these same type of stories have infected diocese to diocese right across america.
You wonder why nearly 1,000 roman catholic priests in just one year have formed a UNION. UNPRECIDENTED!
Cardinal Gomez chastizing Cardinal Mahoney. UNPRECIDENTED!
Remember I didn't create this mess. I just report it.

You really should check out this website Mike, it covers just about everything you've been demanding. Or would you rather we just closed up shop and call it a day?

[Robert F]

ReginaM wrote:

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Oh, yes, Robert, without a doubt. I have a story in that regard too. The same thing happened....she brought me even closer to Christ. Padre Pio didn't call his rosary his "weapon" for nothing, lol! It's amazing, every time you say the rosary you can find a new meditation on the same mysteries. As you said, you gain more knowledge and insight, you go deeper and deeper, or at least the opportunity is there.
Great news about your mother, God bless her and keep her! I lost both my parents in the last seven years, it's awful without them.

ReginaM
Peace

My RCIA sponsor took a trip to Europe near the end of my course and was a very devoted to Padre Pio. She also stopped in Medjugorje and picked up a Rosary for me there, that I still use....It is of wood and string. I am amazed it has lasted all these years....

[Robert F]

Clay wrote:

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People on here really hate Dr Scott Hahn. Unfortunately.
But when I see a Mass like the Latin Sung Mass, I can't help but think of Hahns first thoughts (as an anti Catholic Bible scholar) visiting a Catholic Mass for the first time. He immediately recognized the Book of Revelation throughout the Eucharistic Liturgy. The incense; the Priest in a Robe; the prayers of the Saints; the Lamb of God; Holy, holy holy is the Lord God Almighty' are all found in the Mass.
He realized that the Apostle John was seeing Heaven meeting Earth and that's what happens at the Holy Mass with Christ becoming present in the bread and wine.
To me, this is all the more evident in the Latin Sung Mass. Its ancient, pure and unbelievably focused on the mystery about to take place as Christ becomes present in the Bread and Wine.

Clay
Peace

I read The Lamb's Supper when it first came out. Somehow I lost the copy through the years. But I think it should be mentioned that the Book of Revelation of John and the term of Lamb of God regarding the Mass as Heaven on Earth, in the book by Hahn left a lasting impression on me.

[Robert F]

LTM wrote:

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Rob, I am very glad your mother recovered from cancer.
Mary had nothing do with her healing, nor leading you to Jesus.
That was God.
Jesus would never have revealed you to His Mother, He taught all good things come from the Heavenly Father.
You said you read the Bible , Show me where Jesus ever told us to pray to His Mother , or to go to her when we need help getting through to him.

LTM

Thank you concerning my mother.

I had already been a born-again Christian, and heard Jesus' voice in the words he said to me, "Peace. Peace I give you not as the world gives, I give to you." And I accepted Jesus in my heart at that time, confessed him, and evangelized to everyone I could.

It was about 25 years after that, his Mother was revealed to me, by God. I really think it was my reverence toward God, in Jesus, in his vertical height above me, and to let me know the horizontal aspect, his more human qualities. Thus I stood at the Cross with Mary, as she watched her Son.

So for me, it was my heart accepting Jesus first, then my head, then my heart for His Mother, which pointed me to Jesus, and always points me to Him....

I know it is hard for a non-Catholic to accept such a testimony.
Just pray.

[Oxbow]

Wadda boutit Anthony???? Is there some reason why you refuse to answer my question???

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Anthony MN wrote:
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ok. Tell me where the Church was in the first 1000 years and what they called it.

From Scripture:

Christ said:

Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write
And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write;
And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write;
And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write
And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write;
And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write;
And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write

Your Bible does not teach this?????!!!!!

[confrinting with the word]

Clay wrote:

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Sure buddy. We Catholics hear that all the time from y'all:
'oh we don't hate you guys, we just hate your stinkin Church and Pope who'll be going to hell with you if you don't leave your Church'
The issue Confrint, is its not OUR Church, its
Christ 's Church. It belongs to Him. That's why we're Catholic.

QUESTION...

WHERE IS CHRIST INCLUDED IN YOUR FACADE?

YOU GLORY IN YOUR RITUALS.....YOUR IDOLS YOUR RELICS.

AND YOUR CONSTANTINE TEACHING'S, AND FOLLOW HIS PAGAN PRACTICES.

Paganism and Christianity don't have any compatibility...

Either Jesus Christ is Lord of all IN YOUR LIFE...

OR

HE IS NOT LORD AT ALL...

THERE IS NO COMPROMISE

OR MIXING HIM

WITH THE WORKS

OF THE WORLD...

THE FLESH

OR THE DEVIL.

[Clone]

LTM wrote:

http://www.bing.com/videos/sea rch?
"Open the eyes of my Heart Lord"

Who made God? Ma and Pa God? Or the primitive human animals mind?

[LTM]

Robert F wrote:

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LTM
Thank you concerning my mother.
I had already been a born-again Christian, and heard Jesus' voice in the words he said to me, "Peace. Peace I give you not as the world gives, I give to you." And I accepted Jesus in my heart at that time, confessed him, and evangelized to everyone I could.
It was about 25 years after that, his Mother was revealed to me, by God. I really think it was my reverence toward God, in Jesus, in his vertical height above me, and to let me know the horizontal aspect, his more human qualities. Thus I stood at the Cross with Mary, as she watched her Son.
So for me, it was my heart accepting Jesus first, then my head, then my heart for His Mother, which pointed me to Jesus, and always points me to Him....
I know it is hard for a non-Catholic to accept such a testimony.
Just pray.

Rob, I am not going to say you didn't see or you did see someone you think was Mary.
All I know is what the Bible says "quoting Jesus's words. no one comes to me except the Father draws them" .
Remember satan also is a spirit, he can change his appearance to whatever he like even a beautiful angel.

[LTM]

Clone wrote:

<quoted text>Who made God? Ma and Pa God? Or the primitive human animals mind?

You answer me what came first the chicken or the egg, and I will answer your question.

[confrinting with the word]

hojo wrote:

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The fact is Confrinting----you have "little or no truth" to listen to!..It is "not there" and never has been!!!....Your comments are just a "listing of a bunch of bible verses", interpreting (or better yet) misinterpreting the true meaning of these verses and then adding your distorted "personal opinion",(laced) with anti-catholic lies, condemnation and judgemental vengeance! Bible verse "quoting" doesn't make you or ANY Protestant a Christian, especially when "the only reason" you are "flipping bible verses" is to elevate your continual "hate and hostility" against Jesus Christ and His (historically and biblically proven)One True Catholic Church. I can only feel sorry for you (being a former bible only Protestant) for vengeance that you show against other Christians (especially Catholics) refusing to see "Jesus Christ" as the eucumentical Savior of the World --Catholics and Protestants alike!! May God have "pity" on you judgmental and condemning soul!!!

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YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE FIRST PROTESTANT GROUP THAT EVER EXISTED.

Even now you protest the word of God. A MEMBER OF THE HYBRIDE

Constantine SECT.

YOU SPEND YOU TIME PROTESTING THE NEW TESTAMENT, AND WE THAT FOLLOW IT'S TEACHING.

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Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Rom 10:18 But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.

GOD'S WORD HAS NEVER CHANGED AND WILL NOT BE EDITED NOT TO THE ENDS OF THE WORLD...

[Clay]

confrinting with the word wrote:

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QUESTION...
WHERE IS CHRIST INCLUDED IN YOUR FACADE?
YOU GLORY IN YOUR RITUALS.....YOUR IDOLS YOUR RELICS.
AND YOUR CONSTANTINE TEACHING'S, AND FOLLOW HIS PAGAN PRACTICES.
Paganism and Christianity don't have any compatibility...
Either Jesus Christ is Lord of all IN YOUR LIFE...
OR
HE IS NOT LORD AT ALL...
THERE IS NO COMPROMISE
OR MIXING HIM
WITH THE WORKS
OF THE WORLD...
THE FLESH
OR THE DEVIL.

Are you saying we should play with snakes and pretend like we're speaking in tongues?

[confrinting with the word]

Clay wrote:

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Are you saying we should play with snakes and pretend like we're speaking in tongues?

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YOU ARE ALREADY PLAYING FOOTSY WITH THE OLE serpent THE DEVIL..

AND PRETENDING TO BE RELIGIOUS IN YOUR CONSTANTINE TIRADE AGAINST THE

TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD. USING THE SAME M.O/TACTICS... THAT WAS USED IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN...

YOU SAY .... "Yea, hath God said, THEN YOU INJECT/ADD YOUR OWN DECEITFUL ANSWER

TO DECEIVE, AND SEND AS MANY TO TORMENT AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN.

JESUS SAID
Joh 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy:

Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman,

...==>Yea, hath God said,<=== Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

[Clone]

LTM wrote:

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You answer me what came first the chicken or the egg, and I will answer your question.

Thanks for the input. We will take that as God is a myth. Without the chicken there would be no egg. The chicken was engineered , like all life on earth by advanced alien beings.......this earth is a floating petri dish. Ever wonder why God so powerful and mighty has never been seen, never drops by, made all humans therefore all humans no matter what they believe should see him and nobody ever has, any sane person any way.

[Clay]

LTM wrote:

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Rob, I am not going to say you didn't see or you did see someone you think was Mary.
All I know is what the Bible says "quoting Jesus's words. no one comes to me except the Father draws them" .
Remember satan also is a spirit, he can change his appearance to whatever he like even a beautiful angel.

You don't understand the Bible enough to comprehend Marian doctrine.
Are you declaring that people may be led to Jesus by Satan 'appearing as Mary'?

LTM, what reason could you possibly give to not honor the Mother of Our Lord Jesus Christ as Catholics do? Btw, if you falsely accuse us of worshiping her, I'm going to give you a friendly cyber slap.

[confrinting with the word]

Clay wrote:

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You don't understand the Bible enough to comprehend Marian doctrine.
Are you declaring that people may be led to Jesus by Satan 'appearing as Mary'?
LTM, what reason could you possibly give to not honor the Mother of Our Lord Jesus Christ as Catholics do? Btw, if you falsely accuse us of worshiping her, I'm going to give you a friendly cyber slap.

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YOU WROTE

"You don't understand the Bible enough to comprehend Marian doctrine.""

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IT TAKES TWO OR MORE WITNESSES/SCRIPTURES FOUND IN THE BIBLE TO ESTABLISH A DOCTRINE...

THERE ARE NO SCRIPTURES IN THE BIBLE THAT ESTABLISHES THE MYTH/FABLE THAT YOU CALL THE ...MARIAN DOCTRINE...

IF THERE IS...and (I SAY [ LIKE SO MANY OF YOU FABLES] it does not exist)...

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO...

IS

GIVE BOOK

CHAPTER AND

VERSE..

WHY NOT STOP CREATING FABLES ABOUT MARY THE MOTHER OF JESUS?

Rev_21:8 But the fearful, and

unbelieving, and

the abominable, and

murderers, and

whoremongers, and

sorcerers, and

idolaters, and

===>all liars,<===

shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

[ReginaM]

LTM wrote:

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Rob, I am not going to say you didn't see or you did see someone you think was Mary.
All I know is what the Bible says "quoting Jesus's words. no one comes to me except the Father draws them" .
Remember satan also is a spirit, he can change his appearance to whatever he like even a beautiful angel.

Good grief, he didn't say he *saw* her....he said God *revealed* her to him!

Yes, that's correct, no one comes to Jesus except the Father draws him. And He can draw him any darn way He pleases without you putting your two cents in and telling Him what to do and how to do it! We all know you're miffed because God didn't choose you to be the Blessed Mother, but stop taking it out on her. You're so jealous of her!

[confrinting with the word]

confrinting with the word wrote:

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YOU WROTE
"You don't understand the Bible enough to comprehend Marian doctrine.""
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IT TAKES TWO OR MORE WITNESSES/SCRIPTURES FOUND IN THE BIBLE TO ESTABLISH A DOCTRINE...
THERE ARE NO SCRIPTURES IN THE BIBLE THAT ESTABLISHES THE MYTH/FABLE THAT YOU CALL THE ...MARIAN DOCTRINE...
IF THERE IS...and (I SAY [ LIKE SO MANY OF YOU FABLES] it does not exist)...
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO...
IS
GIVE BOOK
CHAPTER AND
VERSE..
WHY NOT STOP CREATING FABLES ABOUT MARY THE MOTHER OF JESUS?
Rev_21:8 But the fearful, and
unbelieving, and
the abominable, and
murderers, and
whoremongers, and
sorcerers, and
idolaters, and
===>all liars,<===
shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

ARE YOU TO DULL OF HEART..MIND AND SPIRIT TO COMPREHEND THAT THE BIBLE IS THE BOOK THAT DEFINES AND MEASURES TRUTH FROM ERROR .

1Jn 4:5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.

1Jn 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us;

he that is not of God heareth not us.

Rev_2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

Rev_2:11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

Rev_2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

Rev_2:29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Rev_3:6 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Rev_3:13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Rev_3:22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Rev_13:9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.

Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats,

which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which

believe and know the truth.

[Clay]

confrinting with the word wrote:

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~~~
YOU WROTE
"You don't understand the Bible enough to comprehend Marian doctrine.""
---
IT TAKES TWO OR MORE WITNESSES/SCRIPTURES FOUND IN THE BIBLE TO ESTABLISH A DOCTRINE...
THERE ARE NO SCRIPTURES IN THE BIBLE THAT ESTABLISHES THE MYTH/FABLE THAT YOU CALL THE ...MARIAN DOCTRINE...
IF THERE IS...and (I SAY [ LIKE SO MANY OF YOU FABLES] it does not exist)...
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO...
IS
GIVE BOOK
CHAPTER AND
VERSE..
WHY NOT STOP CREATING FABLES ABOUT MARY THE MOTHER OF JESUS?
Rev_21:8 But the fearful, and
unbelieving, and
the abominable, and
murderers, and
whoremongers, and
sorcerers, and
idolaters, and
===>all liars,<===
shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

I always like when you all demand "give me book chapter and verse!"

Why? So you can reject it?? Sola Scripture is easy....you just reject the other persons opinion on scriptures with another verse that appears to contradict it. Then it goes back and forth until you get tired and fall asleep.

But on a serious note Confrint, I notice you're a little angrier lately. I pray all is well with Kay. Keep your head up!

[LTM]

Clay wrote:

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You don't understand the Bible enough to comprehend Marian doctrine.
Are you declaring that people may be led to Jesus by Satan 'appearing as Mary'?
LTM, what reason could you possibly give to not honor the Mother of Our Lord Jesus Christ as Catholics do? Btw, if you falsely accuse us of worshiping her, I'm going to give you a friendly cyber slap.

Clay you can't even understand a simple post how are you going to understand scripture.
Satan would never lead a person to Jesus, but he could appear as Mary, He can even fool people into believing he is Jesus.
Clay people believe a statue can cry tears of blood.
something appeared on a ladies wall recently she believes its Mary.
people are bowing to a wall paying homage to it with flowers and prayers etc.
People pray to a piece of toast believing the design on it is Mary. Like Spock use to say not logical