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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#419689 Feb 2, 2013
hojo wrote:
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The fact is Confrinting----you have "little or no truth" to listen to!..It is "not there" and never has been!!!....Your comments are just a "listing of a bunch of bible verses", interpreting (or better yet) misinterpreting the true meaning of these verses and then adding your distorted "personal opinion",(laced) with anti-catholic lies, condemnation and judgemental vengeance! Bible verse "quoting" doesn't make you or ANY Protestant a Christian, especially when "the only reason" you are "flipping bible verses" is to elevate your continual "hate and hostility" against Jesus Christ and His (historically and biblically proven)One True Catholic Church. I can only feel sorry for you (being a former bible only Protestant) for vengeance that you show against other Christians (especially Catholics) refusing to see "Jesus Christ" as the eucumentical Savior of the World --Catholics and Protestants alike!! May God have "pity" on you judgmental and condemning soul!!!
~~~

YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE FIRST PROTESTANT GROUP THAT EVER EXISTED.

Even now you protest the word of God. A MEMBER OF THE HYBRIDE

Constantine SECT.

YOU SPEND YOU TIME PROTESTING THE NEW TESTAMENT, AND WE THAT FOLLOW IT'S TEACHING.

~~~

Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Rom 10:18 But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.

GOD'S WORD HAS NEVER CHANGED AND WILL NOT BE EDITED NOT TO THE ENDS OF THE WORLD...
Clay

United States

#419690 Feb 2, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
QUESTION...
WHERE IS CHRIST INCLUDED IN YOUR FACADE?
YOU GLORY IN YOUR RITUALS.....YOUR IDOLS YOUR RELICS.
AND YOUR CONSTANTINE TEACHING'S, AND FOLLOW HIS PAGAN PRACTICES.
Paganism and Christianity don't have any compatibility...
Either Jesus Christ is Lord of all IN YOUR LIFE...
OR
HE IS NOT LORD AT ALL...
THERE IS NO COMPROMISE
OR MIXING HIM
WITH THE WORKS
OF THE WORLD...
THE FLESH
OR THE DEVIL.
Are you saying we should play with snakes and pretend like we're speaking in tongues?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#419691 Feb 2, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you saying we should play with snakes and pretend like we're speaking in tongues?
~~~

YOU ARE ALREADY PLAYING FOOTSY WITH THE OLE serpent THE DEVIL..

AND PRETENDING TO BE RELIGIOUS IN YOUR CONSTANTINE TIRADE AGAINST THE

TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD. USING THE SAME M.O/TACTICS... THAT WAS USED IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN...

YOU SAY .... "Yea, hath God said, THEN YOU INJECT/ADD YOUR OWN DECEITFUL ANSWER

TO DECEIVE, AND SEND AS MANY TO TORMENT AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN.

JESUS SAID
Joh 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy:

Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman,

...==>Yea, hath God said,<=== Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
Clone

Kansas City, MO

#419692 Feb 2, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
You answer me what came first the chicken or the egg, and I will answer your question.
Thanks for the input. We will take that as God is a myth. Without the chicken there would be no egg. The chicken was engineered , like all life on earth by advanced alien beings.......this earth is a floating petri dish. Ever wonder why God so powerful and mighty has never been seen, never drops by, made all humans therefore all humans no matter what they believe should see him and nobody ever has, any sane person any way.
Clay

United States

#419693 Feb 2, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Rob, I am not going to say you didn't see or you did see someone you think was Mary.
All I know is what the Bible says "quoting Jesus's words. no one comes to me except the Father draws them" .
Remember satan also is a spirit, he can change his appearance to whatever he like even a beautiful angel.
You don't understand the Bible enough to comprehend Marian doctrine.
Are you declaring that people may be led to Jesus by Satan 'appearing as Mary'?

LTM, what reason could you possibly give to not honor the Mother of Our Lord Jesus Christ as Catholics do? Btw, if you falsely accuse us of worshiping her, I'm going to give you a friendly cyber slap.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#419694 Feb 2, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't understand the Bible enough to comprehend Marian doctrine.
Are you declaring that people may be led to Jesus by Satan 'appearing as Mary'?
LTM, what reason could you possibly give to not honor the Mother of Our Lord Jesus Christ as Catholics do? Btw, if you falsely accuse us of worshiping her, I'm going to give you a friendly cyber slap.
~~~

YOU WROTE

"You don't understand the Bible enough to comprehend Marian doctrine.""

---

IT TAKES TWO OR MORE WITNESSES/SCRIPTURES FOUND IN THE BIBLE TO ESTABLISH A DOCTRINE...

THERE ARE NO SCRIPTURES IN THE BIBLE THAT ESTABLISHES THE MYTH/FABLE THAT YOU CALL THE ...MARIAN DOCTRINE...

IF THERE IS...and (I SAY [ LIKE SO MANY OF YOU FABLES] it does not exist)...

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO...

IS

GIVE BOOK

CHAPTER AND

VERSE..

WHY NOT STOP CREATING FABLES ABOUT MARY THE MOTHER OF JESUS?

Rev_21:8 But the fearful, and

unbelieving, and

the abominable, and

murderers, and

whoremongers, and

sorcerers, and

idolaters, and

===>all liars,<===

shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
ReginaM

Middletown, NJ

#419695 Feb 2, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Rob, I am not going to say you didn't see or you did see someone you think was Mary.
All I know is what the Bible says "quoting Jesus's words. no one comes to me except the Father draws them" .
Remember satan also is a spirit, he can change his appearance to whatever he like even a beautiful angel.
Good grief, he didn't say he *saw* her....he said God *revealed* her to him!

Yes, that's correct, no one comes to Jesus except the Father draws him. And He can draw him any darn way He pleases without you putting your two cents in and telling Him what to do and how to do it! We all know you're miffed because God didn't choose you to be the Blessed Mother, but stop taking it out on her. You're so jealous of her!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#419696 Feb 2, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
YOU WROTE
"You don't understand the Bible enough to comprehend Marian doctrine.""
---
IT TAKES TWO OR MORE WITNESSES/SCRIPTURES FOUND IN THE BIBLE TO ESTABLISH A DOCTRINE...
THERE ARE NO SCRIPTURES IN THE BIBLE THAT ESTABLISHES THE MYTH/FABLE THAT YOU CALL THE ...MARIAN DOCTRINE...
IF THERE IS...and (I SAY [ LIKE SO MANY OF YOU FABLES] it does not exist)...
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO...
IS
GIVE BOOK
CHAPTER AND
VERSE..
WHY NOT STOP CREATING FABLES ABOUT MARY THE MOTHER OF JESUS?
Rev_21:8 But the fearful, and
unbelieving, and
the abominable, and
murderers, and
whoremongers, and
sorcerers, and
idolaters, and
===>all liars,<===
shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
ARE YOU TO DULL OF HEART..MIND AND SPIRIT TO COMPREHEND THAT THE BIBLE IS THE BOOK THAT DEFINES AND MEASURES TRUTH FROM ERROR .

1Jn 4:5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.

1Jn 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us;

he that is not of God heareth not us.

Rev_2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

Rev_2:11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

Rev_2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

Rev_2:29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Rev_3:6 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Rev_3:13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Rev_3:22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Rev_13:9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.

Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats,

which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which

believe and know the truth.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#419697 Feb 2, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
YOU WROTE
"You don't understand the Bible enough to comprehend Marian doctrine.""
---
IT TAKES TWO OR MORE WITNESSES/SCRIPTURES FOUND IN THE BIBLE TO ESTABLISH A DOCTRINE...
THERE ARE NO SCRIPTURES IN THE BIBLE THAT ESTABLISHES THE MYTH/FABLE THAT YOU CALL THE ...MARIAN DOCTRINE...
IF THERE IS...and (I SAY [ LIKE SO MANY OF YOU FABLES] it does not exist)...
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO...
IS
GIVE BOOK
CHAPTER AND
VERSE..
WHY NOT STOP CREATING FABLES ABOUT MARY THE MOTHER OF JESUS?
Rev_21:8 But the fearful, and
unbelieving, and
the abominable, and
murderers, and
whoremongers, and
sorcerers, and
idolaters, and
===>all liars,<===
shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
I always like when you all demand "give me book chapter and verse!"

Why? So you can reject it?? Sola Scripture is easy....you just reject the other persons opinion on scriptures with another verse that appears to contradict it. Then it goes back and forth until you get tired and fall asleep.

But on a serious note Confrint, I notice you're a little angrier lately. I pray all is well with Kay. Keep your head up!
LTM

Sudbury, Canada

#419698 Feb 2, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't understand the Bible enough to comprehend Marian doctrine.
Are you declaring that people may be led to Jesus by Satan 'appearing as Mary'?
LTM, what reason could you possibly give to not honor the Mother of Our Lord Jesus Christ as Catholics do? Btw, if you falsely accuse us of worshiping her, I'm going to give you a friendly cyber slap.
Clay you can't even understand a simple post how are you going to understand scripture.
Satan would never lead a person to Jesus, but he could appear as Mary, He can even fool people into believing he is Jesus.
Clay people believe a statue can cry tears of blood.
something appeared on a ladies wall recently she believes its Mary.
people are bowing to a wall paying homage to it with flowers and prayers etc.
People pray to a piece of toast believing the design on it is Mary. Like Spock use to say not logical
marge

Ames, IA

#419699 Feb 2, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't understand the Bible enough to comprehend Marian doctrine.
Are you declaring that people may be led to Jesus by Satan 'appearing as Mary'?
LTM, what reason could you possibly give to not honor the Mother of Our Lord Jesus Christ as Catholics do? Btw, if you falsely accuse us of worshiping her, I'm going to give you a friendly cyber slap.
It might not seem like worship to you Clay but it sure does to us.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#419700 Feb 2, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Clay you can't even understand a simple post how are you going to understand scripture.
Satan would never lead a person to Jesus, but he could appear as Mary, He can even fool people into believing he is Jesus.
Clay people believe a statue can cry tears of blood.
something appeared on a ladies wall recently she believes its Mary.
people are bowing to a wall paying homage to it with flowers and prayers etc.
People pray to a piece of toast believing the design on it is Mary. Like Spock use to say not logical
Well now, lets not get caught up in these stories about Mary appearing in potato chips and such. And if people claim that she is, do not blame the Catholic Church for that.
It would be like blaming the Catholic Church for Harold Camping fooling all those people into thinking the Rapture was happening. Twice!(since the Catholic Church produced a Bible that Camping decided to interpret himself)
Its not the Church's fault that people are too dumb to understand things.
And believe me you. I am married to a Mexican lady and I see her family taking Marian devotion to a higher level than normal. If something remotely looks like her in a potato chip, they would call the entire family over to view it!
Does it offend God? Of course not! No one in that family thinks of Mary as a deity! They just really love her....and rely on her prayers for them.
marge

Ames, IA

#419701 Feb 2, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
Good grief, he didn't say he *saw* her....he said God *revealed* her to him!
Yes, that's correct, no one comes to Jesus except the Father draws him. And He can draw him any darn way He pleases without you putting your two cents in and telling Him what to do and how to do it! We all know you're miffed because God didn't choose you to be the Blessed Mother, but stop taking it out on her. You're so jealous of her!
I'm sure Mary in her day lead some to Jesus just like we today are called to lead others to Jesus, but all of us are merely servants doing our duty nothing more.

We love and honor Mary being jealous of her would take away from our worship to God alone.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#419702 Feb 2, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
It might not seem like worship to you Clay but it sure does to us.
I know Marge. I am not saying you don't have a right to question us when you see Catholics kneeling before a statue etc. Because from the outside, it looks exactly like Catholics are worshiping it. If i just landed in America and didnt know anything, i would probably think people are worshiping that huge statue of Abraham Lincoln.
Marian devotion is no different. I remember that JW fella kept insisting and insisting we were worshiping Mary because he saw Catholics carrying an image of her into the Church on the feast of the Immaculate Conception. I properly explained the situation. But he didnt care. He really really wanted to believe we worship Mary.
Obviously, he could not stop bearing false witness as a result.

You all are similar. You desperately want to believe we worship Mary and our Pope and think he is God and worship statues and changed the scriptures...you dont just want to believe this. You HAVE to believe this falsehood in order to exist as non-catholics.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#419703 Feb 2, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
Good grief, he didn't say he *saw* her....he said God *revealed* her to him!
Yes, that's correct, no one comes to Jesus except the Father draws him. And He can draw him any darn way He pleases without you putting your two cents in and telling Him what to do and how to do it! We all know you're miffed because God didn't choose you to be the Blessed Mother, but stop taking it out on her. You're so jealous of her!
~~~

You are the one that believes the fables about Mary the morher of Jesus..

Even to rob her of her Children and deny her the honor of being a wife and mother to them..

In your own selfish motive to worship her you place her in a position that violates her privilege of being a Biblical example of a wife and a mother, to all her family...

FOR SHAME

~~~

1Ti 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

1Ti 2:10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.

1Ti 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

1Ti 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

1Ti 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

1Ti 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

1Ti 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

___

1Pe 3:1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;

1Pe 3:2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.

1Pe 3:3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;

1Pe 3:4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.

1Pe 3:5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:

1Pe 3:6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.
LTM

Sudbury, Canada

#419704 Feb 2, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't understand the Bible enough to comprehend Marian doctrine.
Are you declaring that people may be led to Jesus by Satan 'appearing as Mary'?
LTM, what reason could you possibly give to not honor the Mother of Our Lord Jesus Christ as Catholics do? Btw, if you falsely accuse us of worshiping her, I'm going to give you a friendly cyber slap.
We must also heed the warnings of Scripture concerning angelic beings: there are fallen angels who work for Satan who will do anything to subvert and destroy us. Galatians 1:8 warns us to beware of any “new” gospel, even if it is delivered by an angel. Colossians 2:18 warns against the worship of angels. Every time in the Bible when men bowed down before angels, those beings firmly refused to be worshiped. Any angel who receives worship, or who does not give glory to the Lord Jesus, is an imposter. Second Corinthians 11:14-15 states that Satan and his angels disguise themselves as angels of light in order to deceive and lead astray anyone who will listen to them.
ReginaM

Middletown, NJ

#419705 Feb 2, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Rob, I am not going to say you didn't see or you did see someone you think was Mary.
All I know is what the Bible says "quoting Jesus's words. no one comes to me except the Father draws them" .
Remember satan also is a spirit, he can change his appearance to whatever he like even a beautiful angel.
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Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#419706 Feb 2, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sure Mary in her day lead some to Jesus just like we today are called to lead others to Jesus, but all of us are merely servants doing our duty nothing more.
We love and honor Mary being jealous of her would take away from our worship to God alone.
This is just my theory: But it appears that new anti Marian teachings from the Evangelicals partially spawned when she started appearing on Earth.
It seems the Born Agains scrambled in a rabid frenzy to squash any possibility that it just might be Our Lords Mother, drawing people to her Son.
The Miracle at Lourdes, France was especially troublesome for the Evangelicals. Here you had an uneducated 14 yr old girl, Bernadette Soubirous, who claimed 'a lady' appeared to her and told her where a spring of fresh water was, underneath the ground at the grotto. When the locals dug, they indeed found a spring. People were cured of blindness and all sorts of conditions as a result of this gift from God, told to us by Mary.

Obviously, for anti Catholics like yourselves, this was a major problem. People started trashing the Marian Doctrines; claiming it was really Satan blah blah.

They snubbed their noses at the Mother of Our Lord, just to distance themselves from the Catholic Church. They could not admit truth and chose to be ignorant.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Lourdes
ReginaM

Middletown, NJ

#419707 Feb 2, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
We must also heed the warnings of Scripture concerning angelic beings: there are fallen angels who work for Satan who will do anything to subvert and destroy us. Galatians 1:8 warns us to beware of any “new” gospel, even if it is delivered by an angel. Colossians 2:18 warns against the worship of angels. Every time in the Bible when men bowed down before angels, those beings firmly refused to be worshiped. Any angel who receives worship, or who does not give glory to the Lord Jesus, is an imposter. Second Corinthians 11:14-15 states that Satan and his angels disguise themselves as angels of light in order to deceive and lead astray anyone who will listen to them.
"Do whatever he tells you."

Uh, huh, yeah, that's definitely satan leading people astray.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#419708 Feb 2, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
We must also heed the warnings of Scripture concerning angelic beings: there are fallen angels who work for Satan who will do anything to subvert and destroy us. Galatians 1:8 warns us to beware of any “new” gospel, even if it is delivered by an angel. Colossians 2:18 warns against the worship of angels. Every time in the Bible when men bowed down before angels, those beings firmly refused to be worshiped. Any angel who receives worship, or who does not give glory to the Lord Jesus, is an imposter. Second Corinthians 11:14-15 states that Satan and his angels disguise themselves as angels of light in order to deceive and lead astray anyone who will listen to them.
This is the type of inexcusable ignorance that comes from the born agains mouths. I could never ever entertain the idea of being an Evangelical born again. You simply require people to be stupid. I can't do that....

Gudalupe, Mexico 1531

Juan Diego comes across a lady upon a hill. He reports it to the Bishop and said he thinks its the Mother of Christ. The Bishop told Juan to go back and ask for a sign revealing her identity. Mary gathered some Castillian roses - that weren't even native to Mexico- but mysteriously were blooming in December no less. She put them in his cloak and asked him to open it in front of the Bishop. When Juan did this, the roses fell to the floor and the famous image of Our Lady of Gudalupe was on the fabric.

What makes this story remarkable even more, is the scientific tests done to the cloak. The image is not painted on with a brush. It was done in one stroke or one step. In 1933, biochemist Richard Kuhn analyzed the fabric and found that the pigments used were of no known source - whether animal, mineral or vegetable.

Seemingly overnight, Mexico went from indigenous to Christian.

Now, even if this story is exaggerated a little (and i know there is some controversy involved)....But did Satan really just convert a million people to Jesus Christ?? This is what i mean when i say, you guys require a complete lack of logic to form your faith.
"but they are not converted to Christ, they are worshiping Mary now" ugh
Did I also mention you require people to be ignorant?

wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Guadalupe

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