Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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Hit And Run

Oklahoma City, OK

#419644 Feb 2, 2013
Shabbot shalom People enjoy your sabbath.....

P.S. Yahweh is not A god.
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#419645 Feb 2, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Would you rather they be more like you and spend 24/7 on a discussion board sounding like a broken record or actually doing something, like, um, reducing the amount of abuse to an average of 7 per year or 0.00017 %.
Get a life Mike, quit spending your time obssessing over child sex.
You are back to defending them again!

You are a phony Anthony.......you haven't changed.

You tell us you own and operate two businesses yet you post throughout every week day/evening while you are suppose to be productive. If your employees were doing what you are doing they would be fired.

No wonder our best businesses have moved to china and lately vietnam, where business owners work a solid 8-12 hours a day, and none of them posting on religious sites.

You are why america is failing. Poor management, low production.

UNBELIEVABLE!

LTM

Sudbury, Canada

#419646 Feb 2, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Sadly, if you were indeed raised Catholic and experienced the Holy Eucharist, and now turned your back to Him, you have committed a grave sin.
Having said that, only God can see into your soul. Only He knows the true reasons why you left. Only He can ultimately judge you.
The reasons you cited above are not sufficient. For you to say, " the Roman Catholic Church has many beliefs and practices which are from the truth found in the Bible", is faulty for many reasons.
1. All the RCC beliefs are found in the Bible. You're not allowed to authoritatively dictate whether they are or not.
2. The Church came first. Then the Bible (NT).
In fact, it existed yrs before any of the Apostles wrote. Some Books were the result of the Apostles writing to the Church. See, Church was already established.
3. By attempting to dictate for yourself what the Bible is saying, you're declaring yourself an authority. Even more so of an authority than the Pope. Even our Pope has to obey what was taught by the Apostles. This ensures us that the deposit of faith given 2,000 yrs ago by word of mouth and letter is eternally safeguarded from generation to generation. Christ protects the Magistrium of the Church from error when teaching on faith and morals.
This is called real faith...real trust in Jesus Christ. These conspiracy Christians like to believe Jesus abandoned His Church in 330 AD and waited another 1500 yrs to reveal His true Ministry via the printed Bible to the 'Born Again' movement.
I understand the temptation to join one of the 42,000 sects outside of the true Church. Heck, there is a whole buffet of Christianity to choose from, to adhere to whatever lifestyle fits. That's not what Christ established.
"Peter, you are the rock upon which I will build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it"
Even If you were a true sola scripturest, you can see He started a Church. And the Devil will not prevail against her.
You know what Clay, He didn't turn his back on Jesus .
He found Jesus, God opened his understand to the Holy Scripture.
Only The Holy Spirit can do that , not man .
F.R.C. did not join a sect, he was joined to the true vine. He became part of the body of Christ .
Clay

Chicago, IL

#419647 Feb 2, 2013
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
Clay
Peace
Living in a rather rural area, I don't have the advantage of going to the High Mass. I have been to only one. It is something I will not forget. Very, very spiritually rich.
People on here really hate Dr Scott Hahn. Unfortunately.
But when I see a Mass like the Latin Sung Mass, I can't help but think of Hahns first thoughts (as an anti Catholic Bible scholar) visiting a Catholic Mass for the first time. He immediately recognized the Book of Revelation throughout the Eucharistic Liturgy. The incense; the Priest in a Robe; the prayers of the Saints; the Lamb of God; Holy, holy holy is the Lord God Almighty' are all found in the Mass.
He realized that the Apostle John was seeing Heaven meeting Earth and that's what happens at the Holy Mass with Christ becoming present in the bread and wine.
To me, this is all the more evident in the Latin Sung Mass. Its ancient, pure and unbelievably focused on the mystery about to take place as Christ becomes present in the Bread and Wine.
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#419648 Feb 2, 2013
You fool me not wrote:
I just finished reading the whole Gospel of Mark and I would like a Bible-only Christian to tell me how they know that this Gospel was actually written by Mark. Did I miss the chapter and verse where Mark claims authorship? If I did, can someone point the exact verse to me?
Thanks!
How do you know any of the 4 gospels were written by the names attached to them? You don't. If we don't have originals there is no way to verify anything. Anyone could have written anything and attached names....Remember more gospels were burned and discarded then the ones actually kept yet they all claimed to have been inspired by God, and how could any be discared if they believed they were writing about a real man who actually lived.... BUSTED!

..The only mention of a miracle man jesus and all the other characters in his story are ONLY mentioned in the NT. No one else from the entire mediteranean from that era including Jewish/Roman SCRIBES, WRITERS, PHILOSOPHERS, STATESMEN and GOVERNMENT officials NEVER mention ANY miracle man Jesus or any of the three dozen characters in the supposed 33 year story. Thats not good!

.......something is terribly wrong fool me not.

you might be a real fool.
Clay

Chicago, IL

#419649 Feb 2, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Funny how ex-Catholics love to talk about gettin' saved, guaranteed heaven and not going to hell by turning protestant, yet here they are live posting on a discussion board.
Yeah Anthony. Who wouldn't want guaranteed Heaven promised by the born again movement!

I told a story last week about a stripper falling off a balcony during a lap dance. She died. I read in the article a quote from her parents that she had 'gone home to the Lord'
Apparently they are OSAS believers...
This is what these knuckleheads have created with their false teachings.

Btw, someone said I lied about that story. So when I get home I'll try and post a link.
LTM

Sudbury, Canada

#419650 Feb 2, 2013
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
ReginaM
Actually, about 18 years ago, my mother was desperately worried over cancer. And I was for her too. She recovered and is still living..., to a very old age.
I think Jesus revealed to me his Mother about a year after this event, as a sign. She has been and is now so ever dear in my heart. And it was through the Rosary, I gained so much more knowledge insight into Jesus.
Rob, I am very glad your mother recovered from cancer.
Mary had nothing do with her healing, nor leading you to Jesus.
That was God.
Jesus would never have revealed you to His Mother, He taught all good things come from the Heavenly Father.
You said you read the Bible , Show me where Jesus ever told us to pray to His Mother , or to go to her when we need help getting through to him.
LTM

Sudbury, Canada

#419651 Feb 2, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
John 6:44
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Amen Marge I was just thinking of that verse.

“The wicked are not smart”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#419652 Feb 2, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
How do you know any of the 4 gospels were written by the names attached to them? You don't. If we don't have originals there is no way to verify anything. Anyone could have written anything and attached names....Remember more gospels were burned and discarded then the ones actually kept yet they all claimed to have been inspired by God, and how could any be discared if they believed they were writing about a real man who actually lived.... BUSTED!
..The only mention of a miracle man jesus and all the other characters in his story are ONLY mentioned in the NT. No one else from the entire mediteranean from that era including Jewish/Roman SCRIBES, WRITERS, PHILOSOPHERS, STATESMEN and GOVERNMENT officials NEVER mention ANY miracle man Jesus or any of the three dozen characters in the supposed 33 year story. Thats not good!
.......something is terribly wrong fool me not.
you might be a real fool.
I asked for the answer from Sola Scriptura guys not from atheists, FOOL.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#419653 Feb 2, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
It's a lovely church, quite unique, built in the 1890s, many interesting items including portrait of St Thomas More... it has a regular congregation of over a thousand every Sunday, lots of young people. But it's not particularly famous, and is in a very quiet side-road, with no passing traffic. Canon Brockie said " I often think I'd like to sit down with some of the people, especially all the 20- and 30-somethings, and just ask how they came to know about the church and why they started coming to Mass." He added that all the central London churches get large congregations. "The media just don't get it - whenever they show a church they always tend to show it empty with just a few people who have dropped in to pray. They never show a church on an ordinary Sunday."
Posted by Joanna Bogle at 12:47 am
http://joannabogle.blogspot.com/
just wondering why you didn't answer my question? if a priest molested a child of yours would you still support the church like you do?
ReginaM

Middletown, NJ

#419654 Feb 2, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Sadly, if you were indeed raised Catholic and experienced the Holy Eucharist, and now turned your back to Him, you have committed a grave sin.
Having said that, only God can see into your soul. Only He knows the true reasons why you left. Only He can ultimately judge you.
The reasons you cited above are not sufficient. For you to say, " the Roman Catholic Church has many beliefs and practices which are from the truth found in the Bible", is faulty for many reasons.
1. All the RCC beliefs are found in the Bible. You're not allowed to authoritatively dictate whether they are or not.
2. The Church came first. Then the Bible (NT).
In fact, it existed yrs before any of the Apostles wrote. Some Books were the result of the Apostles writing to the Church. See, Church was already established.
3. By attempting to dictate for yourself what the Bible is saying, you're declaring yourself an authority. Even more so of an authority than the Pope. Even our Pope has to obey what was taught by the Apostles. This ensures us that the deposit of faith given 2,000 yrs ago by word of mouth and letter is eternally safeguarded from generation to generation. Christ protects the Magistrium of the Church from error when teaching on faith and morals.
This is called real faith...real trust in Jesus Christ. These conspiracy Christians like to believe Jesus abandoned His Church in 330 AD and waited another 1500 yrs to reveal His true Ministry via the printed Bible to the 'Born Again' movement.
I understand the temptation to join one of the 42,000 sects outside of the true Church. Heck, there is a whole buffet of Christianity to choose from, to adhere to whatever lifestyle fits. That's not what Christ established.
"Peter, you are the rock upon which I will build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it"
Even If you were a true sola scripturest, you can see He started a Church. And the Devil will not prevail against her.
He's just another fundie pretending to be a former Catholic giving false witness on a public forum. Yawn...,what else is new.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#419655 Feb 2, 2013
Hope everyone is having a Wonderful Sabbath !!!!
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#419656 Feb 2, 2013
WHAT A DAY THAT WILL BE !!!

Clay

Chicago, IL

#419657 Feb 2, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>just wondering why you didn't answer my question? if a priest molested a child of yours would you still support the church like you do?
Teachers far outnumber Catholic Priests in this area.
If one molested your child, would you stop sending them to school? Would you stop supporting education for our youngsters?
Anthony MN

United States

#419658 Feb 2, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
You are back to defending them again!
You are a phony Anthony.......you haven't changed.
You tell us you own and operate two businesses yet you post throughout every week day/evening while you are suppose to be productive. If your employees were doing what you are doing they would be fired.
No wonder our best businesses have moved to china and lately vietnam, where business owners work a solid 8-12 hours a day, and none of them posting on religious sites.
You are why america is failing. Poor management, low production.
UNBELIEVABLE!
Lol. Business is great. My employees work their tails off for me.

Pretty soon you will have run out of decades old abuse stories and with no new ones to fantasize over, and then you'll be looking for protestant ones. You should see a counselor about your obsession with child sex Mike. I'm sure your wife is concerned.
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#419659 Feb 2, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah Anthony. Who wouldn't want guaranteed Heaven promised by the born again movement!
I told a story last week about a stripper falling off a balcony during a lap dance. She died. I read in the article a quote from her parents that she had 'gone home to the Lord'
Apparently they are OSAS believers...
This is what these knuckleheads have created with their false teachings.
Btw, someone said I lied about that story. So when I get home I'll try and post a link.
So what is the big deal she is a stripper? Maybe she was giving a $20 lap dance to one of your relatives. Are they all squeeky clean? Look at the worst of sins thousands of clergy in your own church have done right up to CARDINAL Mahony from Las Angeles........

Tell us your sins? You say we are ALL SINNERS. I am sure you have committed some woppers and probably too believe you will be going home to the Lord one day. UNBELIEVABLE!

I know! God loves you more than he loves others.....

UNBELIEVABLE!

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#419660 Feb 2, 2013
635
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Funny how ex-Catholics love to talk about gettin' saved, guaranteed heaven and not going to hell by turning protestant, yet here they are live posting on a discussion board.
Your Bible does not teach?? Quote:These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#419661 Feb 2, 2013
"The Roman Catholic Church," explains Time magazine, "is a stern hierarchy that has always kept its deliberations secret, policed itself and issued orders from the top. An obedient priest moves up in power by keeping his head down, winning rewards for bureaucratic skills and strict orthodoxy... If allegations came to diocese attention, the bishop, a power unto himself who often operated as if ordination gave him a share of the Pope's infallibility, acted as prosecutor, judge, sentencer. Desperate to retain even sinful men, as the number of priests shrank alarmingly, and ever putting the image of the "Church first", bishops refined the system. Convince the family that publicity would harm the faith. Don't report to the police; don't warn the parish... And if a victim finally sued, the strategy was to admit nothing, buy silence, settle out of court and seal the deal with a confidentiality contract"
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#419662 Feb 2, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Lol. Business is great. My employees work their tails off for me.
Pretty soon you will have run out of decades old abuse stories and with no new ones to fantasize over, and then you'll be looking for protestant ones. You should see a counselor about your obsession with child sex Mike. I'm sure your wife is concerned.
My wife is as disgusted as I am, and she is not afraid like you catholics to say so. Where is your wifes voice? SILENCE!

I don't make up the stories Anthony they come along as they do. Thanks to your church leaders themselves. The arch-diocese of Los Angeles just posted the stories of hundreds of priests that have been bad. Right on the arch-diocese website. I wonder what the followers will say when they start reading how big of FOOLS THEY HAVE BEEN for all these years, yet YOU again, keep defending these guys.

Catholics themselves are the reason these stories have gone on so long. Catholics themselves are culpable for much of what has happened always looking the other way and remaining ever SILENT never demanding accounability.

You get what you get.

Very sad.

I will always defend people taken advantage of, whether men, women or children......you should try it.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#419663 Feb 2, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Teachers far outnumber Catholic Priests in this area.
If one molested your child, would you stop sending them to school? Would you stop supporting education for our youngsters?
no i would not stop my child from going to school,education is to important,what i would do is file a formal complaint with police and with the school and the school board.i have seen first hand knowledge of what molesting can do to a child,it's the most despicable thing a teacher,priest,pope,boy scout leader,anyone can do to a child,if the police or school system did nothing to this teacher,then he/she would answer to me,and "I PROMISE YOU" he/she would never touch a child again.

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