Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#419622 Feb 2, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
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Beautiful, Clay! I'll always love the Traditional Latin Mass as it's the Mass of my childhood. The chanting is gorgeous, like Heaven on Earth. The incense makes me sneeze, though (lol). The Novus Ordo can be special, too. It depends on the celebrant. Some have such a gift of being so in tune with God; they never take the Mass for granted, it never becomes routine for them. Those are the Masses I love the best. We must pray for our priests.
The truth must be told. We know how much you love the truth.

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/4b2957e...

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#419623 Feb 2, 2013
Clay wrote:
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I went to a Latin Sung Mass this morning. Very traditional. It was in a Chapel below Saint Agnes Church in St. Paul MN.
I felt like I was in a time warp. There is so much respect for sacred scriptures at the Catholic Mass in general. But especially at a Latin Sung Mass. Lots of incense and sung prayers.
Clay
Peace

Living in a rather rural area, I don't have the advantage of going to the High Mass. I have been to only one. It is something I will not forget. Very, very spiritually rich.
Former Roman Catholic

Uniontown, PA

#419624 Feb 2, 2013
I was raised a Roman Catholic and once believed the RC Church was the one true church. I was taught one must be a Roman Catholic to have salvation and all others would go to hell, including Greek Catholics. Reading the Catholic Bible is what changed me. The truth is the Roman Catholic church has many beliefs and practices which are F-A-R from the truth found in the Bible. For all those who will read this post, examine the New Testament for yourself after you sincerely and humbly ask God for mercy and turn from your sins. Commit your life to Jesus to follow and serve him.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#419625 Feb 2, 2013
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>And tell us did you find Salvation in those other religions ?
Mathew 5
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
9 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?
10 Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?
11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
7th Day

There are truths through which one can converse with another person in another religion. And some of them have a very rich understanding.

But it is God the Judge of All Things; and His Knowing Salvation's Limit, and this humanity seeks, that through God's Goodness, shall accomplish His Will. So be it to this end in Jesus Christ.
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#419626 Feb 2, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
The truth must be told. We know how much you love the truth.
http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/4b2957e...
Sounds like the new bishops appointed by the pope are doing what they're supposed to be doing by publically chastising former bishops who covered for abusive priests. And the guilty clergy are going to prison like they should be. This is a good news article Mike, thanks for linking it!
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#419627 Feb 2, 2013
Former Roman Catholic wrote:
I was raised a Roman Catholic and once believed the RC Church was the one true church. I was taught one must be a Roman Catholic to have salvation and all others would go to hell, including Greek Catholics. Reading the Catholic Bible is what changed me. The truth is the Roman Catholic church has many beliefs and practices which are F-A-R from the truth found in the Bible. For all those who will read this post, examine the New Testament for yourself after you sincerely and humbly ask God for mercy and turn from your sins. Commit your life to Jesus to follow and serve him.
You should post to HOJO and CLAY......they would love to hear from you.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#419628 Feb 2, 2013
Robert F wrote:
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7th Day
There are truths through which one can converse with another person in another religion. And some of them have a very rich understanding.
But it is God the Judge of All Things; and His Knowing Salvation's Limit, and this humanity seeks, that through God's Goodness, shall accomplish His Will. So be it to this end in Jesus Christ.
Mercy Does Abound Thank Goddness !!!
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#419629 Feb 2, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Sounds like the new bishops appointed by the pope are doing what they're supposed to be doing by publically chastising former bishops who covered for abusive priests. And the guilty clergy are going to prison like they should be. This is a good news article Mike, thanks for linking it!
To be clear Anthony. I don't care if its protestant ministers, jewish rabbis, walmart greeters, or boy scout leaders. If they have abused children or anyone and covered up to protect their empires and their own asses then they should all face the music.

Catholics have to be more vocal about their church leaders good or bad. Its long overdue.


Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#419630 Feb 2, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
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Ah, yes, the Blessed Mother bringing you straight to her Son. That is always her way, without fail. I've seen it happen time and time again. She will never lead us, her children, astray.
Auspice Maria
ReginaM

Actually, about 18 years ago, my mother was desperately worried over cancer. And I was for her too. She recovered and is still living..., to a very old age.

I think Jesus revealed to me his Mother about a year after this event, as a sign. She has been and is now so ever dear in my heart. And it was through the Rosary, I gained so much more knowledge insight into Jesus.
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#419631 Feb 2, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Sounds like the new bishops appointed by the pope are doing what they're supposed to be doing by publically chastising former bishops who covered for abusive priests. And the guilty clergy are going to prison like they should be. This is a good news article Mike, thanks for linking it!
No one has EVER seen a Cardinal chastise another Cardinal in the public forum.

If Cardinal Mahony believes he hasn't done anything wrong then he should put ALL his cards on the table.

Remember Cardinals, bishops, priests........all have paying jobs because of you and all other catholics. Many catholics today believe they should have a little more input into the structure of the clergy and how it is governed. I believe that is long overdue.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#419632 Feb 2, 2013
hojo wrote:
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You, Michael, have replaced one of the 3 stooges as the new 21st century "slap-stick--stand up comedians with these last comments.
"I can't stand it --you say!!! First of all it makes no difference to me as to whether you are a Catholic or not. Since you have already "beligerently and hostily --REJECT" the One True Catholic
Church of Jesus Christ and have this "distorted axe-to-grind" hate-filled condemnation that has "obsessed you" over and over again against the Catholic Church, it only shows "how desperate" you have become. No Catholic on this forum or ANYWHERE for that matter, believes the "exaggerate anti-catholic trash articles" that have "consummed" your mind. heart and soul! You can continue "spinning your wheels' going around in circles as you always have, not going (anywhere) with this exaggerated anti-catholic trash. My family and I (as well as the 1.168 Billion Catholics around the world, will continue to worship and follow Jesus Christ, at daily Mass and in the Eucharist (each day) in Our lords One True Catholic Church!! You can do what you want---but continue praying for your hardened heart and misguided soul!!
!!
="hojo"]<quoted text>
No Catholic on this forum or ANYWHERE for that matter, believes the "exaggerate anti-catholic trash articles" JETHRO:you are wrong considering how many catholics that are leaving the church,they are closing churches like crazy, because catholics are believing the news stories,at least ones with their eyes open.that 1.168 billion number is not accurate,1 billion or less maybe.
ReginaM

Middletown, NJ

#419633 Feb 2, 2013
It's a lovely church, quite unique, built in the 1890s, many interesting items including portrait of St Thomas More... it has a regular congregation of over a thousand every Sunday, lots of young people. But it's not particularly famous, and is in a very quiet side-road, with no passing traffic. Canon Brockie said " I often think I'd like to sit down with some of the people, especially all the 20- and 30-somethings, and just ask how they came to know about the church and why they started coming to Mass." He added that all the central London churches get large congregations. "The media just don't get it - whenever they show a church they always tend to show it empty with just a few people who have dropped in to pray. They never show a church on an ordinary Sunday."
Posted by Joanna Bogle at 12:47 am
http://joannabogle.blogspot.com/
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#419634 Feb 2, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
I will bet the people who tested the host you speak of, were adevout roman catholics.

If you want to prove to everyone that every consecrated host turns into blood and flesh then save your host and take it to a university science lab and get the results. The results will be unleavened bread with a pinch of salt. GURANTEED BUSTED!

Every year dozens of roman catholic women around the world claim to see Jesus or Mary on their bread/toast, or highway overpass. They contact the media, thousands of BELIEVING pilgrims show up holding candles. Bad news is always reported. The most interesting part is that no one has any idea what this man Jesus or Mary would have looked like if they did ever exist, but catholics have engrained in their minds that Jesus looks just like the sacred heart of Jesus picture that was "made up" centuries ago and catholics WANT Jesus to look just like that. If they saw an image of a short man with a hunch back and big nose they would never call the media or attention to themselves that this was Jesus. Mary is always a young fair maiden wearing a blue shawl.

I say BUSTED!



Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#419635 Feb 2, 2013
Former Roman Catholic wrote:
I was raised a Roman Catholic and once believed the RC Church was the one true church. I was taught one must be a Roman Catholic to have salvation and all others would go to hell, including Greek Catholics. Reading the Catholic Bible is what changed me. The truth is the Roman Catholic church has many beliefs and practices which are F-A-R from the truth found in the Bible. For all those who will read this post, examine the New Testament for yourself after you sincerely and humbly ask God for mercy and turn from your sins. Commit your life to Jesus to follow and serve him.
Funny how ex-Catholics love to talk about gettin' saved, guaranteed heaven and not going to hell by turning protestant, yet here they are live posting on a discussion board.
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#419636 Feb 2, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
It's a lovely church, quite unique, built in the 1890s, many interesting items including portrait of St Thomas More... it has a regular congregation of over a thousand every Sunday, lots of young people. But it's not particularly famous, and is in a very quiet side-road, with no passing traffic. Canon Brockie said " I often think I'd like to sit down with some of the people, especially all the 20- and 30-somethings, and just ask how they came to know about the church and why they started coming to Mass." He added that all the central London churches get large congregations. "The media just don't get it - whenever they show a church they always tend to show it empty with just a few people who have dropped in to pray. They never show a church on an ordinary Sunday."
Posted by Joanna Bogle at 12:47 am
http://joannabogle.blogspot.com/
Within a very few years there will be more Muslims and Mosques than christians and christian churches in Britain.

Read all of this of what is going on in the entire western europe.

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2761/conver...
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#419637 Feb 2, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
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To be clear Anthony. I don't care if its protestant ministers, jewish rabbis, walmart greeters, or boy scout leaders. If they have abused children or anyone and covered up to protect their empires and their own asses then they should all face the music.
Catholics have to be more vocal about their church leaders good or bad. Its long overdue.
Would you rather they be more like you and spend 24/7 on a discussion board sounding like a broken record or actually doing something, like, um, reducing the amount of abuse to an average of 7 per year or 0.00017 %.

Get a life Mike, quit spending your time obssessing over child sex.
Clay

Chicago, IL

#419638 Feb 2, 2013
Former Roman Catholic wrote:
I was raised a Roman Catholic and once believed the RC Church was the one true church. I was taught one must be a Roman Catholic to have salvation and all others would go to hell, including Greek Catholics. Reading the Catholic Bible is what changed me. The truth is the Roman Catholic church has many beliefs and practices which are F-A-R from the truth found in the Bible. For all those who will read this post, examine the New Testament for yourself after you sincerely and humbly ask God for mercy and turn from your sins. Commit your life to Jesus to follow and serve him.
Sadly, if you were indeed raised Catholic and experienced the Holy Eucharist, and now turned your back to Him, you have committed a grave sin.

Having said that, only God can see into your soul. Only He knows the true reasons why you left. Only He can ultimately judge you.

The reasons you cited above are not sufficient. For you to say, " the Roman Catholic Church has many beliefs and practices which are from the truth found in the Bible", is faulty for many reasons.
1. All the RCC beliefs are found in the Bible. You're not allowed to authoritatively dictate whether they are or not.
2. The Church came first. Then the Bible (NT).
In fact, it existed yrs before any of the Apostles wrote. Some Books were the result of the Apostles writing to the Church. See, Church was already established.
3. By attempting to dictate for yourself what the Bible is saying, you're declaring yourself an authority. Even more so of an authority than the Pope. Even our Pope has to obey what was taught by the Apostles. This ensures us that the deposit of faith given 2,000 yrs ago by word of mouth and letter is eternally safeguarded from generation to generation. Christ protects the Magistrium of the Church from error when teaching on faith and morals.
This is called real faith...real trust in Jesus Christ. These conspiracy Christians like to believe Jesus abandoned His Church in 330 AD and waited another 1500 yrs to reveal His true Ministry via the printed Bible to the 'Born Again' movement.

I understand the temptation to join one of the 42,000 sects outside of the true Church. Heck, there is a whole buffet of Christianity to choose from, to adhere to whatever lifestyle fits. That's not what Christ established.

"Peter, you are the rock upon which I will build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it"
Even If you were a true sola scripturest, you can see He started a Church. And the Devil will not prevail against her.
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#419639 Feb 2, 2013
US Catholic churches......Empty pews and empty coffers.

http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/...

1/3 of americans between 18-29 now consider themselves non religious.

... Our future generations!
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#419640 Feb 2, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
No one has EVER seen a Cardinal chastise another Cardinal in the public forum.
If Cardinal Mahony believes he hasn't done anything wrong then he should put ALL his cards on the table.
Remember Cardinals, bishops, priests........all have paying jobs because of you and all other catholics. Many catholics today believe they should have a little more input into the structure of the clergy and how it is governed. I believe that is long overdue.
My posts must really get you flustered because you always have to respond two or three times to each one.

Yes, public chastisement by a fellow bishop is very rare, they usually chew them out in private. But this is the new wave of conservative bishops assigned by the pope to root out the filth and liberals who were the cause of it all. It seems to me that every time the Churh does something positive it pisses you off, almost as though you're worried the object of your obssession is going away...

“The wicked are not smart”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#419641 Feb 2, 2013
I just finished reading the whole Gospel of Mark and I would like a Bible-only Christian to tell me how they know that this Gospel was actually written by Mark. Did I miss the chapter and verse where Mark claims authorship? If I did, can someone point the exact verse to me?
Thanks!

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