Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
marge

Ames, IA

#419613 Feb 2, 2013
James 1:17

Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the >Father< of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#419614 Feb 2, 2013
RCC Superiority So BUSTED wrote:
<quoted text>
According to the RCC's own John Jay Report, the number in the USA was over 4% of Priests, not 1% as the denier claims.
You Catholics need to get your lies straight.
Remember too, this Report was before 29 more cases were reported in one diocese alone (Philly).
The percentage of Priests with aids was even higher.
Stop the lies. Stop the denial. Stop attacking America and most Americans. Go to Mexico City -- the largest catholic-majority city on earth and enjoy the fruits of your "superior" believe system.
Walk your talk... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA
And the little over 4% IS ONLY THE ONES THAT WERE CAUGHT AND THEY KNOW ABOUT.
Clay

Chicago, IL

#419615 Feb 2, 2013
RCC Superiority So BUSTED wrote:
<quoted text>
Clay writes... "... respect all religions."
DUH!!!! What is the title of this thread?
How is saying that other churches are not true churches and praying for the conversion of others is -- "respecting all religions?"
Try using your God-given brain next time.
Dear RCC Superiority SO BUSTED,

The Catholic Church respects all religions. You do not. The Evangelicals do not.
You're unholy alliance with these buffoons is laughable, because they say you will be if hell along with all Catholics. We do not say that about them.
We get to define what 'true Church' means. You do not. There can only be one Church that Christ started. This doesn't mean - in any way - that Jesus does not love you or them any different than Catholics.
What's that saying? Bigots of a feather flock together? Lol.

So, RCC Superiority SO BUSTED, wise up and lose the ideology.
marge

Ames, IA

#419616 Feb 2, 2013
No man can come to me, except it be given him of my Father; which is the same, as to be drawn by the Father; for faith in Christ is the gift of God, and coming to him, is owing to efficacious grace, and is not the produce of man's power and freewill. Gill
ReginaM

Middletown, NJ

#419617 Feb 2, 2013
For though languages differ throughout the world, the content of the Tradition is one and the same. The Churches established in Germany have no other faith or Tradition, nor do those of the Iberians, nor those of the Celts, nor those of the East, of Egypt, of Libya, nor those established at the centre of the world...

-- St. Iranaeus, Adversus haereses
ReginaM

Middletown, NJ

#419618 Feb 2, 2013
marge wrote:
No man can come to me, except it be given him of my Father; which is the same, as to be drawn by the Father; for faith in Christ is the gift of God, and coming to him, is owing to efficacious grace, and is not the produce of man's power and freewill. Gill
And that gift can be accepted or rejected. Therein lies our free will. God does not force His gift upon anyone.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#419619 Feb 2, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>and what is ironic is that now robert F, a luke warm catholic, has now become their main voice of unreason.
robert has joined probably 5 different types of religious organizations in the last 10 years or so.
and probably soon, robert f will show the world how much he loves the catholic church and its truths by participating in self immolation, which would be comparable to the devotion that old iggie showed when he wanted to be killed, even tho he was afraid of those leopards. He wanted to die but he was afraid to be killed. go figure!
preston

Phili 1:21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.

Matt 10:39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

Again Matt 16:25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

Its time for you to be born again....If you are not prepared to die right now for the sake of faith in Christ, then you must be born again....

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#419620 Feb 2, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Amen
"If Angels could be jealous of men, it would be so for one reason: the Holy Eucharist"
Saint Maximillion Kolbe
Clay
Peace

Ah..., yes.

Before I was taught about the joining of heaven and earth in the Mass, I knew the angels were hovering above the Altar during the Liturgy....
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#419621 Feb 2, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
LOS ANGELES (AP) Retired Roman Catholic Cardinal Roger Mahony defended his tattered legacy in a sharply worded letter to his successor, a day after Archbishop Jose Gomez stripped him of his administrative duties and bowed to a court order to release thousands of pages of confidential files on sexually abusive priests.
In a letter posted Friday on his personal blog, Mahony challenged Gomez for publicly shaming him and said he developed policies to safeguard children after taking over in 1985, despite being unequipped to deal with the molester priests he inherited.
Mahony had apologized two weeks ago after another release of similar files showed he and other top aides worked behind the scenes to protect the church from the growing scandal, keep offending clerics out of state and prevent public disclosure of sex crimes committed by priests.
Gomez was well aware when he took over in 2011 of the steps Mahony had taken to develop better clergy sex abuse policies and never questioned his leadership until Thursday, Mahony wrote.Gomez was well aware when he took over in 2011 of the steps Mahony had taken to develop better clergy sex abuse policies and never questioned his leadership until Thursday, Mahony wrote.
"Unfortunately, I cannot return now to the 1980s and reverse actions and decisions made then. But when I retired as the active archbishop, I handed over to you an archdiocese that was second to none in protecting children and youth," Mahony wrote.
The letter was remarkable because it revealed infighting between two highly placed church leaders when members of the Roman Catholic hierarchy rarely break ranks publicly, said the Rev. Thomas Doyle, a canon lawyer who worked for the Vatican's Washington, D.C., embassy who also has served as an expert witness for victims in clerical abuse cases.
"It is so rare because they stick together like glue," he said. "The fact that Gomez said what he said, this had to have been cleared by the Vatican, they had to have discussed this with the Vatican. Mahony took the fall."
continued.
Jethro.......

....We have been posting on here for the past 4 years that plenty of infighting is going on amongst the hirearchy in the catholic church. Scandal after scandal.

Most of it dealing with sexual abuse. The finger pointing has been going on for some time, and now for the first time its made it into public record for all to see.

There is no one to blame but mother church leaders themselves. They created this mess by lieing, deceiving and covering up the worst sins of all, while they continued telling REGINA, ANTHONY, HOJO, CLAY, to never commit such sins themselves.

The arch-diocese of Philadelphia just embarassed themselves last year when dozens of catholic priests were brought forward facing charges of sexual abuse. A monsignor went to prison for his part in covering up.

Catholics themselves have been made fools of, yet today they still sit on their hands and say........NOTHING!

Diocese after diocese will come under scruitny, as the TRUTH needs to be told, no matter how much it hurts.

Good reporting Jethro8....
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#419622 Feb 2, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
Beautiful, Clay! I'll always love the Traditional Latin Mass as it's the Mass of my childhood. The chanting is gorgeous, like Heaven on Earth. The incense makes me sneeze, though (lol). The Novus Ordo can be special, too. It depends on the celebrant. Some have such a gift of being so in tune with God; they never take the Mass for granted, it never becomes routine for them. Those are the Masses I love the best. We must pray for our priests.
The truth must be told. We know how much you love the truth.

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/4b2957e...

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#419623 Feb 2, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
I went to a Latin Sung Mass this morning. Very traditional. It was in a Chapel below Saint Agnes Church in St. Paul MN.
I felt like I was in a time warp. There is so much respect for sacred scriptures at the Catholic Mass in general. But especially at a Latin Sung Mass. Lots of incense and sung prayers.
Clay
Peace

Living in a rather rural area, I don't have the advantage of going to the High Mass. I have been to only one. It is something I will not forget. Very, very spiritually rich.
Former Roman Catholic

Uniontown, PA

#419624 Feb 2, 2013
I was raised a Roman Catholic and once believed the RC Church was the one true church. I was taught one must be a Roman Catholic to have salvation and all others would go to hell, including Greek Catholics. Reading the Catholic Bible is what changed me. The truth is the Roman Catholic church has many beliefs and practices which are F-A-R from the truth found in the Bible. For all those who will read this post, examine the New Testament for yourself after you sincerely and humbly ask God for mercy and turn from your sins. Commit your life to Jesus to follow and serve him.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#419625 Feb 2, 2013
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>And tell us did you find Salvation in those other religions ?
Mathew 5
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
9 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?
10 Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?
11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
7th Day

There are truths through which one can converse with another person in another religion. And some of them have a very rich understanding.

But it is God the Judge of All Things; and His Knowing Salvation's Limit, and this humanity seeks, that through God's Goodness, shall accomplish His Will. So be it to this end in Jesus Christ.
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#419626 Feb 2, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>
The truth must be told. We know how much you love the truth.
http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/4b2957e...
Sounds like the new bishops appointed by the pope are doing what they're supposed to be doing by publically chastising former bishops who covered for abusive priests. And the guilty clergy are going to prison like they should be. This is a good news article Mike, thanks for linking it!
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#419627 Feb 2, 2013
Former Roman Catholic wrote:
I was raised a Roman Catholic and once believed the RC Church was the one true church. I was taught one must be a Roman Catholic to have salvation and all others would go to hell, including Greek Catholics. Reading the Catholic Bible is what changed me. The truth is the Roman Catholic church has many beliefs and practices which are F-A-R from the truth found in the Bible. For all those who will read this post, examine the New Testament for yourself after you sincerely and humbly ask God for mercy and turn from your sins. Commit your life to Jesus to follow and serve him.
You should post to HOJO and CLAY......they would love to hear from you.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#419628 Feb 2, 2013
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
7th Day
There are truths through which one can converse with another person in another religion. And some of them have a very rich understanding.
But it is God the Judge of All Things; and His Knowing Salvation's Limit, and this humanity seeks, that through God's Goodness, shall accomplish His Will. So be it to this end in Jesus Christ.
Mercy Does Abound Thank Goddness !!!
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#419629 Feb 2, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Sounds like the new bishops appointed by the pope are doing what they're supposed to be doing by publically chastising former bishops who covered for abusive priests. And the guilty clergy are going to prison like they should be. This is a good news article Mike, thanks for linking it!
To be clear Anthony. I don't care if its protestant ministers, jewish rabbis, walmart greeters, or boy scout leaders. If they have abused children or anyone and covered up to protect their empires and their own asses then they should all face the music.

Catholics have to be more vocal about their church leaders good or bad. Its long overdue.


Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#419630 Feb 2, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, yes, the Blessed Mother bringing you straight to her Son. That is always her way, without fail. I've seen it happen time and time again. She will never lead us, her children, astray.
Auspice Maria
ReginaM

Actually, about 18 years ago, my mother was desperately worried over cancer. And I was for her too. She recovered and is still living..., to a very old age.

I think Jesus revealed to me his Mother about a year after this event, as a sign. She has been and is now so ever dear in my heart. And it was through the Rosary, I gained so much more knowledge insight into Jesus.
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#419631 Feb 2, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Sounds like the new bishops appointed by the pope are doing what they're supposed to be doing by publically chastising former bishops who covered for abusive priests. And the guilty clergy are going to prison like they should be. This is a good news article Mike, thanks for linking it!
No one has EVER seen a Cardinal chastise another Cardinal in the public forum.

If Cardinal Mahony believes he hasn't done anything wrong then he should put ALL his cards on the table.

Remember Cardinals, bishops, priests........all have paying jobs because of you and all other catholics. Many catholics today believe they should have a little more input into the structure of the clergy and how it is governed. I believe that is long overdue.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#419632 Feb 2, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
You, Michael, have replaced one of the 3 stooges as the new 21st century "slap-stick--stand up comedians with these last comments.
"I can't stand it --you say!!! First of all it makes no difference to me as to whether you are a Catholic or not. Since you have already "beligerently and hostily --REJECT" the One True Catholic
Church of Jesus Christ and have this "distorted axe-to-grind" hate-filled condemnation that has "obsessed you" over and over again against the Catholic Church, it only shows "how desperate" you have become. No Catholic on this forum or ANYWHERE for that matter, believes the "exaggerate anti-catholic trash articles" that have "consummed" your mind. heart and soul! You can continue "spinning your wheels' going around in circles as you always have, not going (anywhere) with this exaggerated anti-catholic trash. My family and I (as well as the 1.168 Billion Catholics around the world, will continue to worship and follow Jesus Christ, at daily Mass and in the Eucharist (each day) in Our lords One True Catholic Church!! You can do what you want---but continue praying for your hardened heart and misguided soul!!
!!
="hojo"]<quoted text>
No Catholic on this forum or ANYWHERE for that matter, believes the "exaggerate anti-catholic trash articles" JETHRO:you are wrong considering how many catholics that are leaving the church,they are closing churches like crazy, because catholics are believing the news stories,at least ones with their eyes open.that 1.168 billion number is not accurate,1 billion or less maybe.

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