Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
ReginaM

Middletown, NJ

#419602 Feb 2, 2013
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
Clay
Peace
I was raised a Methodist, but without much indoctrination. I mainly remember all the good singing to the old hymns.
When I became an older teen, I started my search, that desire for the eternal Truth. And at that time the Eastern Religions were becoming popular. Mainly a couple of forms of Buddhism, and Hinduism, along with Western Philosophy were where my inquiries led me.
In my early 20's I read the Bible seriously, and became "born again". I followed my nose in Christianity for quite awhile, mainly in local group communities, evangelical, and went to Bible studies, but it just wasn't enough.(I was drying on the vine.) I prayed for guidance, instead of using my nose, and God set up the circumstances.
On a weekend vacation I visited Mission Santa Barbara, in CA, and took the "tour". By the end of the tour, I visited the shop, picked up my first Rosary and a booklet. I said my first Rosary, and knew my prayers were answered, and that sense of peace and protection by God through Mary. The next week I went to my local RCC....boy was I scared(with all my protestant indocrination).
I sat near the front, to see "hear" the sermon(smile), and once the Mass began, I followed the standing, sitting, and kneeling, and was shocked at how much Bible reading was going on. Then I saw the Eucharistic part and of course it was very symbolic but I was so very comfortable with it....
After Mass, someone came up to me and asked what I thought? I said," I am at home." And went to RCIA classes for 2 years and was Confirmed.
Since then, I have studied Sufism, Islam. I feel an obligation to be all things to all men. And the universal call of the Christ, one must speak to others so they can understand them. Since then my studies are mainly on the writings of the Saints and Doctors of the Church....
Ah, yes, the Blessed Mother bringing you straight to her Son. That is always her way, without fail. I've seen it happen time and time again. She will never lead us, her children, astray.

Auspice Maria
ReginaM

Middletown, NJ

#419603 Feb 2, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
I went to a Latin Sung Mass this morning. Very traditional. It was in a Chapel below Saint Agnes Church in St. Paul MN.
I felt like I was in a time warp. There is so much respect for sacred scriptures at the Catholic Mass in general. But especially at a Latin Sung Mass. Lots of incense and sung prayers.
Beautiful, Clay! I'll always love the Traditional Latin Mass as it's the Mass of my childhood. The chanting is gorgeous, like Heaven on Earth. The incense makes me sneeze, though (lol). The Novus Ordo can be special, too. It depends on the celebrant. Some have such a gift of being so in tune with God; they never take the Mass for granted, it never becomes routine for them. Those are the Masses I love the best. We must pray for our priests.
RCC Superiority So BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#419604 Feb 2, 2013
Clay wrote:
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You don't understand because you're an ignorant bigot.
Why on Earth would I dismiss 2,000 yrs of Catholicism because 1% of her Priests committed abuse?
You're beyond ignorant my friend. There is no hope for any rational conversation with such ignorance.
According to the RCC's own John Jay Report, the number in the USA was over 4% of Priests, not 1% as the denier claims.

You Catholics need to get your lies straight.

Remember too, this Report was before 29 more cases were reported in one diocese alone (Philly).

The percentage of Priests with aids was even higher.

Stop the lies. Stop the denial. Stop attacking America and most Americans. Go to Mexico City -- the largest catholic-majority city on earth and enjoy the fruits of your "superior" believe system.

Walk your talk... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA
marge

Ames, IA

#419605 Feb 2, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Amen
"If Angels could be jealous of men, it would be so for one reason: the Holy Eucharist"
Saint Maximillion Kolbe
Heb 11:1
Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.

2 Cor 5:7
For we live by faith, not by sight.

2 Cor 4:18
So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.
marge

Ames, IA

#419606 Feb 2, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
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Ah, yes, the Blessed Mother bringing you straight to her Son. That is always her way, without fail. I've seen it happen time and time again. She will never lead us, her children, astray.
Auspice Maria
John 6:44
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
RCC Superiority So BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#419607 Feb 2, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Nice story Rob. I think its good to learn and respect all religions.
Clay writes... "... respect all religions."

DUH!!!! What is the title of this thread?

How is saying that other churches are not true churches and praying for the conversion of others is -- "respecting all religions?"

Try using your God-given brain next time.
ReginaM

Middletown, NJ

#419608 Feb 2, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Amen
"If Angels could be jealous of men, it would be so for one reason: the Holy Eucharist"
Saint Maximillion Kolbe
And Amen to this!!

He was very brave and had a deep devotion to Our Lady. He was offered a choice of the red crown of martyrdom or the white crown of purity. He said, "I choose both."
ReginaM

Middletown, NJ

#419609 Feb 2, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
John 6:44
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
That's right, Marge.
ReginaM

Middletown, NJ

#419610 Feb 2, 2013
The dignity of man rests above all on the fact that he is called to communion with God. This invitation to converse with God is addressed to man as soon as he comes into being. For if man exists it is because God has created him through love, and through love continues to hold him in existence. He cannot live fully according to truth unless he freely acknowledges that love and entrusts himself to his Creator.

-- Gaudium et spes
marge

Ames, IA

#419611 Feb 2, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
That's right, Marge.
yep

Jesus said'

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

But some of you do not believe me." (For Jesus knew from the beginning which ones didn't believe, and he knew who would betray him.)

Then he said, "That is why I said that people can't come to me unless the Father gives them to me."
marge

Ames, IA

#419612 Feb 2, 2013
John 3:26-27

So John's disciples came to him and said, "Rabbi, the man you met on the other side of the Jordan River, the one you identified as the Messiah, is also baptizing people. And everybody is going to him instead of coming to us."

John replied, "No one can receive anything unless God gives it from heaven.
marge

Ames, IA

#419613 Feb 2, 2013
James 1:17

Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the >Father< of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#419614 Feb 2, 2013
RCC Superiority So BUSTED wrote:
<quoted text>
According to the RCC's own John Jay Report, the number in the USA was over 4% of Priests, not 1% as the denier claims.
You Catholics need to get your lies straight.
Remember too, this Report was before 29 more cases were reported in one diocese alone (Philly).
The percentage of Priests with aids was even higher.
Stop the lies. Stop the denial. Stop attacking America and most Americans. Go to Mexico City -- the largest catholic-majority city on earth and enjoy the fruits of your "superior" believe system.
Walk your talk... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA
And the little over 4% IS ONLY THE ONES THAT WERE CAUGHT AND THEY KNOW ABOUT.
Clay

Chicago, IL

#419615 Feb 2, 2013
RCC Superiority So BUSTED wrote:
<quoted text>
Clay writes... "... respect all religions."
DUH!!!! What is the title of this thread?
How is saying that other churches are not true churches and praying for the conversion of others is -- "respecting all religions?"
Try using your God-given brain next time.
Dear RCC Superiority SO BUSTED,

The Catholic Church respects all religions. You do not. The Evangelicals do not.
You're unholy alliance with these buffoons is laughable, because they say you will be if hell along with all Catholics. We do not say that about them.
We get to define what 'true Church' means. You do not. There can only be one Church that Christ started. This doesn't mean - in any way - that Jesus does not love you or them any different than Catholics.
What's that saying? Bigots of a feather flock together? Lol.

So, RCC Superiority SO BUSTED, wise up and lose the ideology.
marge

Ames, IA

#419616 Feb 2, 2013
No man can come to me, except it be given him of my Father; which is the same, as to be drawn by the Father; for faith in Christ is the gift of God, and coming to him, is owing to efficacious grace, and is not the produce of man's power and freewill. Gill
ReginaM

Middletown, NJ

#419617 Feb 2, 2013
For though languages differ throughout the world, the content of the Tradition is one and the same. The Churches established in Germany have no other faith or Tradition, nor do those of the Iberians, nor those of the Celts, nor those of the East, of Egypt, of Libya, nor those established at the centre of the world...

-- St. Iranaeus, Adversus haereses
ReginaM

Middletown, NJ

#419618 Feb 2, 2013
marge wrote:
No man can come to me, except it be given him of my Father; which is the same, as to be drawn by the Father; for faith in Christ is the gift of God, and coming to him, is owing to efficacious grace, and is not the produce of man's power and freewill. Gill
And that gift can be accepted or rejected. Therein lies our free will. God does not force His gift upon anyone.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#419619 Feb 2, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>and what is ironic is that now robert F, a luke warm catholic, has now become their main voice of unreason.
robert has joined probably 5 different types of religious organizations in the last 10 years or so.
and probably soon, robert f will show the world how much he loves the catholic church and its truths by participating in self immolation, which would be comparable to the devotion that old iggie showed when he wanted to be killed, even tho he was afraid of those leopards. He wanted to die but he was afraid to be killed. go figure!
preston

Phili 1:21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.

Matt 10:39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

Again Matt 16:25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

Its time for you to be born again....If you are not prepared to die right now for the sake of faith in Christ, then you must be born again....

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#419620 Feb 2, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Amen
"If Angels could be jealous of men, it would be so for one reason: the Holy Eucharist"
Saint Maximillion Kolbe
Clay
Peace

Ah..., yes.

Before I was taught about the joining of heaven and earth in the Mass, I knew the angels were hovering above the Altar during the Liturgy....
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#419621 Feb 2, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
LOS ANGELES (AP) Retired Roman Catholic Cardinal Roger Mahony defended his tattered legacy in a sharply worded letter to his successor, a day after Archbishop Jose Gomez stripped him of his administrative duties and bowed to a court order to release thousands of pages of confidential files on sexually abusive priests.
In a letter posted Friday on his personal blog, Mahony challenged Gomez for publicly shaming him and said he developed policies to safeguard children after taking over in 1985, despite being unequipped to deal with the molester priests he inherited.
Mahony had apologized two weeks ago after another release of similar files showed he and other top aides worked behind the scenes to protect the church from the growing scandal, keep offending clerics out of state and prevent public disclosure of sex crimes committed by priests.
Gomez was well aware when he took over in 2011 of the steps Mahony had taken to develop better clergy sex abuse policies and never questioned his leadership until Thursday, Mahony wrote.Gomez was well aware when he took over in 2011 of the steps Mahony had taken to develop better clergy sex abuse policies and never questioned his leadership until Thursday, Mahony wrote.
"Unfortunately, I cannot return now to the 1980s and reverse actions and decisions made then. But when I retired as the active archbishop, I handed over to you an archdiocese that was second to none in protecting children and youth," Mahony wrote.
The letter was remarkable because it revealed infighting between two highly placed church leaders when members of the Roman Catholic hierarchy rarely break ranks publicly, said the Rev. Thomas Doyle, a canon lawyer who worked for the Vatican's Washington, D.C., embassy who also has served as an expert witness for victims in clerical abuse cases.
"It is so rare because they stick together like glue," he said. "The fact that Gomez said what he said, this had to have been cleared by the Vatican, they had to have discussed this with the Vatican. Mahony took the fall."
continued.
Jethro.......

....We have been posting on here for the past 4 years that plenty of infighting is going on amongst the hirearchy in the catholic church. Scandal after scandal.

Most of it dealing with sexual abuse. The finger pointing has been going on for some time, and now for the first time its made it into public record for all to see.

There is no one to blame but mother church leaders themselves. They created this mess by lieing, deceiving and covering up the worst sins of all, while they continued telling REGINA, ANTHONY, HOJO, CLAY, to never commit such sins themselves.

The arch-diocese of Philadelphia just embarassed themselves last year when dozens of catholic priests were brought forward facing charges of sexual abuse. A monsignor went to prison for his part in covering up.

Catholics themselves have been made fools of, yet today they still sit on their hands and say........NOTHING!

Diocese after diocese will come under scruitny, as the TRUTH needs to be told, no matter how much it hurts.

Good reporting Jethro8....

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