Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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LTM

Sudbury, Canada

#419562 Feb 2, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Right on Preston, years ago I was going to turn catholic , I read the catechism and changed my mind.
I know very little of the bible, except for the Lords prayer and a few Psalms I memorized by heart,.
The catholic church is all about the catholic church its not about God.
They have large idols of saints and Mary suppositly, They have 3 idols representing Jesus one on the cross dead, one on the stick the Pope carry's of a decomposed corpus, and one of Mary and an infant in her arms.
Jesus isn't dead, He did not rot in the grave.
And He isn't a baby He is Almighty God
They have gone to church all their lives most of the catholic's and have never met Jesus, to them He is a wafer and a glass of wine.
I meant to say ::I knew very little of the bible, except for the Lords prayer and a few Psalms I memorized by heart,.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#419563 Feb 2, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Confrinting---I see that you are now "stuck" on the Constantineean (merry-go-round), of anti-catholic heretical (word games). Recently you have become more and more"reckless" in your desperate need to "grasp and hold-onto some new "bible only distortion of the TRUTH........ So now its the Constantineean (fif-raf) of your Protestant "lies and deceit"by using a different "tactic" than what you used last week(in another one of your(continuous) failed attempts) in trying to "distort the Truth" of the TRUE GOSPEL of Jesus Christ and His One True Catholic Church....... You just keep "making up" one lie after another, in order to "justify" the condemning and judgmental (so-called) Christian Ministry that has "absolutely no basis of biblical or historical truth" to back up ANYTHING that say.......... You are only "another one" of the 42,000+ contradicting, conflicting and inconsistent (personal opinionated) half-truth, half-heresy Protestant preachers that just keep "spinning their wheels" going (NOWHERE) around in circles of more and more Protestant confusion and chaos......... God has never, nor will ever, be the author of your condemning and judgmental ministry, that is built (not on Jesus Christ) but on attacking the TRUTH of the faith of other TRUE Christians, especially Catholics. Again,........ I repeat to you---"the only true Christian in your family is your wife----however, you in your own beliegence, hostility and rebelliousness wouldn't "humble yourself" to EVER listen to her.
~~~

I have pleaded with you to listen to truth but you would rather believe a your lies..

2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

You are deceived BIG TIME...
2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
truth

Australia

#419564 Feb 2, 2013
pride is sin
i hope who is real can read..nothing hurt anyone truth is truth..i have that in my house too..if truth hurt you..no sorry no..it is as it is..liked or not..
what i say wrong
someone step over flower
someone liked burn in hell too
it is written about that
who have ear can hear
wind-yin is evil spirit not holy

as well i rimind you
log in eye is not mother mary milk

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#419565 Feb 2, 2013
JOHN wrote:
I see that the cowboy is still at spreading his lies. As a Catholic I find his answers as offensive but to argue with him is fruitless. Take car JOHN
~~~

IT IS FOOLISHNESS TO ARGUE AGAINST THE TRUTH.

IT IS THE TRUTH THAT SANCTIFIES, AND MAKES ONE HOLY
Joh_17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

THE GOSPEL IS THE TRUTH.
Col_1:5 For the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel;

WHY DO YOU NOT ACCEPT/RECEIVE THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD?
1Th_2:13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

__

IT IS THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD THAT MAKES YOU FREE.

JESUS SAID

Joh_8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

YOU ARE NOT FREE..

YOU ARE A SLAVE TO CONSTANTINE-ISM...
truth

Australia

#419566 Feb 2, 2013
NOW
Log in eye is not mother Mary milk.
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooo
truth

Australia

#419567 Feb 2, 2013
you not love me, not honor me
its lips
its ok
liars is always liars
i have planty in my life
not reason to believe in liars
dok me mamis
i secerom me hranis
a kad me primamis
i zraka mi zabranis
is that your love
nooooooooooooooooooooooo
love yourself

Are you for sure o'clock?

where is that..your cd..
sorry
i am not for sure
i don't know used computer or anything for your cd
not at all
butttttttttttttttttttttttttttt tttttttttttttttttttttt
i don't have what you have
be honest
i don't need nothing at all from anyone
i am colecting my tears from now
in tiny botlle
rest i know what i have to do
when i died
my eyes will stop on correct time
Clay

Chicago, IL

#419568 Feb 2, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
I hate no one ...I care enough to tell you the truth...
You are ASLEEP...(like those that pilgrim found sleeping,)along his journey. IN PILGRIMS PROGRESS.... by JOHN BUNION...
Hate is not what motivates a person TO ATTEMPT TO AWAKEN SOME ONE THAT IS FACING A BURNING HELL.
If I hated you... I would just ignore you, and just let you go to hell...
Love is always in order...
Sure buddy. We Catholics hear that all the time from y'all:

'oh we don't hate you guys, we just hate your stinkin Church and Pope who'll be going to hell with you if you don't leave your Church'

The issue Confrint, is its not OUR Church, its
Christ 's Church. It belongs to Him. That's why we're Catholic.
Clay

Chicago, IL

#419569 Feb 2, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
IT IS FOOLISHNESS TO ARGUE AGAINST THE TRUTH.
IT IS THE TRUTH THAT SANCTIFIES, AND MAKES ONE HOLY
Joh_17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
THE GOSPEL IS THE TRUTH.
Col_1:5 For the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel;
WHY DO YOU NOT ACCEPT/RECEIVE THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD?
1Th_2:13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.
__
IT IS THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD THAT MAKES YOU FREE.
JESUS SAID
Joh_8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
YOU ARE NOT FREE..
YOU ARE A SLAVE TO CONSTANTINE-ISM...
Maybe you could show us how Constantine (ism)
Dictated Catholicism?

Until then, save your silly lies for the victims in your compound.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#419570 Feb 2, 2013
Garlic man wrote:
<quoted text>
Try garlic. It works wonders!
love garlic,put it on everything,cook with it quite often,good anti-oxident,and if someone is pestering you,take a bite of a clove eat it then stand close to the person and breath heavily while talking :)

Since: Nov 08

usa

#419571 Feb 2, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
It amazes me how "bitter and angry" of a "condemning and hostile" life that you lead, when it comes to "persistently" attacking the Catholic Church. The fact is Michael, I don't hate (anyone), not you, confrinting, Orville, justachristian, jethro or any other person who spreads their anti-catholic exaggerated distortion, lies and deceit. We, as Catholics will "leave the hate" to "you and those Protestants, agnostics or atheists, who in their own frustration, are living lives of the "bondage" of wrath and extreme anger!! Interesting to see "how you deal" with it: and what caliber of gun do you plan to use when "nothing" seems to be going your way"!!!!
i post the history of the church that no one likes to talk about,they are very decieving people,they say one thing,then behind closed doors they do another. if you doubt a post of mine look it up yourself,other than a catholic site,and you'll find the same factual authenticated true history of the dark side of the church.AND why didn't you answer my question? if a child of yours was molested by a priest would you still defend the church like you do? instead of senseless dribble you allways post,let's try an honest answer for a change ok.
truth

Australia

#419572 Feb 2, 2013
have bath in vinegar
don't drink to much
Clay

Chicago, IL

#419573 Feb 2, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Once again I tell you it isn't the catholic church, The Catholic Church is a worldly church.
Gods Church is a Spiritual Church Lead by the Holy Spirit.
God reigns from Heaven on Earth, He did not leave control of His Holy Church in the hands of a human,
God's church are Spirit filled born again believers; people who follow the Lord Jesus Christ.
That's just a fantasy you guys have, LTM.

Where were you 'born again' people for 1800 yrs?

The problem is, you born agains get down in the dumps.. Hooked on drugs or something. Then throw your hands into the sky and God in His infinite love zaps you with the Holy Spirit. Then, you submit to unrelenting ignorance and assume you're authorities on sacred scripture.
Christ is calling everyone on Earth into the Catholic Church. There are many variables as to why people can't or won't. Christ still loves you and knows the reasons why you won't come into his Church.

I just feel terrible for all the career ministers who know the truth in Catholicism, but ignore it so they won't face the humiliation from their friends and family. Whoa to them. They are rejecting Jesus Christ by rejecting His Church.
Clay

Chicago, IL

#419574 Feb 2, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>i post the history of the church that no one likes to talk about,they are very decieving people,they say one thing,then behind closed doors they do another. if you doubt a post of mine look it up yourself,other than a catholic site,and you'll find the same factual authenticated true history of the dark side of the church.AND why didn't you answer my question? if a child of yours was molested by a priest would you still defend the church like you do? instead of senseless dribble you allways post,let's try an honest answer for a change ok.
"if a child of yours was molested by a Priest, would you still defend the Catholic Church"

No, this Priest would make me dismiss all of Catholicism from top to bottom; from 33 AD - 2013 AD.

Man oh man Jethro.

Who can seriously respond to such ignorance spewing from your mouth?
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#419575 Feb 2, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
I have pleaded with you to listen to truth but you would rather believe a your lies..
The fact is Confrinting----you have "little or no truth" to listen to!..It is "not there" and never has been!!!....Your comments are just a "listing of a bunch of bible verses", interpreting (or better yet) misinterpreting the true meaning of these verses and then adding your distorted "personal opinion",(laced) with anti-catholic lies, condemnation and judgemental vengeance! Bible verse "quoting" doesn't make you or ANY Protestant a Christian, especially when "the only reason" you are "flipping bible verses" is to elevate your continual "hate and hostility" against Jesus Christ and His (historically and biblically proven)One True Catholic Church. I can only feel sorry for you (being a former bible only Protestant) for vengeance that you show against other Christians (especially Catholics) refusing to see "Jesus Christ" as the eucumentical Savior of the World --Catholics and Protestants alike!! May God have "pity" on you judgmental and condemning soul!!!
truth

Australia

#419576 Feb 2, 2013
he already except me on his CROSS
there its very nice
so beautiful
love there is complete

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#419577 Feb 2, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
How this
John was born in Bethsaida on the Sea of Galilee.the son of Zebedee (Matthew 4:21) and Salome, who was apparently the sister of Mary, Jesus' mother. Compare the following two verses:
Mark 15:40 - There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome;
John 19:25 - Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene.
If Mary and Salome were sisters, John the Apostle and Jesus were first cousins. This would make him related to John the Baptist whose mother was Mary's cousin Elisabeth, see the story in Luke 1.
John was also the brother of James the Greater. Together they were often called after their father "the sons of Zebedee" and received from Christ the honorable title of Boanerges, i.e. "sons of thunder" (Mark 3:17).
LTM

Hmmm....Respectfully. Just look at where this thinking starts:

As the writer "assumes"....

"Salome, who was apparently the sister of Mary, Jesus' mother...."

Apparently...,apparently, apparently....(The writer meant assumed and used the word apparently)

What is happening here is a sort of desperation to come up with some kind of clever geneology of Jesus, John the Apostle, and John the Bapist....It is a necessary ingredient in so many of the divisions in Christianity to come up with some unique identity to hold together its adherents, rather than becoming part of the the One Mystical Body of Christ.

I have went along this way for a time. I think most Christians do seek to find some "secret" within the Bible that seems to satisfy for a time. But in the end is merely another idea, which the brain connects, and misses the main point which is the Love of God in Christ....

Of course I am not saying to not investigate or study the Bible, but this is a vain geneology.(Titus 3:9 "and foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about law, stand away from -- for they are unprofitable and vain.")
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#419578 Feb 2, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>i post the history of the church that no one likes to talk about,they are very decieving people,they
Jethro8--you post --"zero"---true church history. It is just more of the same old (anti-catholic) "bogus and heretical" history that you "dug up" in some (obscure and remote website) written by either an ex-catholic, an agnostic or an atheists, who has an "axe to grind" with Jesus Christ and His One True Catholic Church. Deception??? Yes!!!----In your attempt to "deceive yourself" as you attempt to "deceive others"!!

Since: Nov 08

usa

#419579 Feb 2, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
"if a child of yours was molested by a Priest, would you still defend the Catholic Church"
No, this Priest would make me dismiss all of Catholicism from top to bottom; from 33 AD - 2013 AD.
Man oh man Jethro.
Who can seriously respond to such ignorance spewing from your mouth?
jjust asking a simple question,you would dismiss catholocism,but since none of your children have been harmed,yet thousands of others have,that doesn't bother you? it must not since your still with the church,don't undrstand how anyone could do that.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#419580 Feb 2, 2013
LOS ANGELES (AP) Retired Roman Catholic Cardinal Roger Mahony defended his tattered legacy in a sharply worded letter to his successor, a day after Archbishop Jose Gomez stripped him of his administrative duties and bowed to a court order to release thousands of pages of confidential files on sexually abusive priests.

In a letter posted Friday on his personal blog, Mahony challenged Gomez for publicly shaming him and said he developed policies to safeguard children after taking over in 1985, despite being unequipped to deal with the molester priests he inherited.

Mahony had apologized two weeks ago after another release of similar files showed he and other top aides worked behind the scenes to protect the church from the growing scandal, keep offending clerics out of state and prevent public disclosure of sex crimes committed by priests.

Gomez was well aware when he took over in 2011 of the steps Mahony had taken to develop better clergy sex abuse policies and never questioned his leadership until Thursday, Mahony wrote.Gomez was well aware when he took over in 2011 of the steps Mahony had taken to develop better clergy sex abuse policies and never questioned his leadership until Thursday, Mahony wrote.

"Unfortunately, I cannot return now to the 1980s and reverse actions and decisions made then. But when I retired as the active archbishop, I handed over to you an archdiocese that was second to none in protecting children and youth," Mahony wrote.

The letter was remarkable because it revealed infighting between two highly placed church leaders when members of the Roman Catholic hierarchy rarely break ranks publicly, said the Rev. Thomas Doyle, a canon lawyer who worked for the Vatican's Washington, D.C., embassy who also has served as an expert witness for victims in clerical abuse cases.

"It is so rare because they stick together like glue," he said. "The fact that Gomez said what he said, this had to have been cleared by the Vatican, they had to have discussed this with the Vatican. Mahony took the fall."

continued.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#419581 Feb 2, 2013
Gomez declined an interview request from The Associated Press.

The exchange also indicates the stress Mahony is under following several weeks of damaging disclosures of priest personnel files that reveal he and a top aide, Thomas Curry, who is now a bishop, maneuvered to shield priests from prosecution, kept parishioners in the dark and failed to call police about sex crimes against minors.

Gomez's public rebuke of Mahony, 76, for failing to take swift action against abusive priests adds tarnish to a career already overshadowed by the church sex abuse scandal, but it does little to change his role in the larger church.

The archbishop also accepted a resignation request from Curry, who most recently served as auxiliary bishop in charge of the archdiocese's Santa Barbara region.

The fallout will get worse as parishioners themselves begin to read the thousands of pages of documents that are now posted on the archdiocese website.

The files were to be released as part of a record-breaking $660 million settlement with more than 500 victims of sex abuse, but lawyers for the archdiocese and individual priests waged a five-year battle to keep them sealed. On Thursday, a judge ordered them released without significant redactions after attorneys for The Associated Press and Los Angeles Times intervened.

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