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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 590910 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#419399 Feb 1, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Doesn't matter what some protestant commentator says, nor you. Scripture never says a word about Jesus establishing Christianity, it only says He built His Church.. And an important part of His statement is the fact that He said "MY Church" not "a" church. AND He says His Church will be visible, seen by the world, not just some invisible group of people connected by their faith in the bible alone. Sorry Preston.
The holy bible......

If BROTHER means COUSIN, then maybe CHURCH means SYNAGOGUE.

NAZARETH in the NT, but not recorded anywhere else during this era.

......remember everything written in the bible is opposite of what it really means.

It was the catholic fathers way of placing secret codes into the bible, and hoping 2,000 years later that someone like me, might crack it.


..........Nazareth, The City That Never Was


.......The evidence for a 1st century town of Nazareth does not exist – not literary, not archaeologically, and not historically.

......Biblical scholars and clergy alike have always had difficulty accepting the possibility that at the time of Jesus there was no city called “Nazareth.” They have always resisted this possibility and sometimes, quite vigorously.

.......The Encyclopaedia Biblica, a work written by theologians, and perhaps the greatest biblical reference work in the English language, says: "We cannot venture to assert that there was a city of Nazareth in Jesus' time."

.......Nazareth is not mentioned in any historical records or biblical texts of the time and receives no mention by any contemporary historian. Nazareth is not mentioned in the Old Testament, the Talmud (the Jewish law code), nor in the Apocrypha and it does not appear in any early rabbinic literature.

......Nazareth was not included in the list of settlements of the tribes of Zebulon (Joshua 19:10-16) which mentions twelve towns and six villages, and Nazareth is not included among the 45 cities of Galilee that were mentioned by Josephus (37AD-100AD), a widely traveled historian who never missed anything and who voluminously describes the region. The name is also missing from the 63 towns of Galilee mentioned in the Talmud.

......The first reference to Nazareth is in the New Testament where it can be found 29 different times. However, there is still cause for speculation as to whether or not the city existed at the time of Jesus. It is mentioned only in the Gospels and Acts. These books do refer to Nazareth, but they did not originate at this time, they are later writings. The earlier writings of the NT (Paul etc) mention Jesus 221 times - BUT NEVER MENTION, Nazareth.

Whatever you read in the bible just think the OPPOSITE. You will be closer to the truth.

hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#419400 Feb 1, 2013
JUST-A-CHRISTIAN wrote:
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The very NAME of this forum invites argument.
In typical romanist arrogance, it tries to claim how superior it thinks it is.
The romanist DENOMINATION is as man-made as any other denomination.
Live with it, and get used to it. Romanism is a cult, is nothing special, and it is abominable. The thing's days ARE numbered.
Nope!! Wrong again, just-a-christian, which is "no surprise" to ANY of us Catholics who know, believe, adhere to, listen and follow the TRUTH of Jesus Christ's own "spoken words" IN the Gospel. The Catholic Church has never claimed superiority, but it does claim to "hold the FULLNESS of the TRUTH and the FULLNESS of the FAITH that has existed for over 2000 years: the SAME Truth and the SAME Faith, that has "slowly deteriorated and disintegrated" for over 500 years since the Reformation. Protestant "bible only"(personal opinionated) "pick and choose bible interpretation" has produced over 42,000+ contradicting (hodge-podge) of inconsistent (truth???) better known as "relativism"---whate ver each person believes is truth for them!!
Half-truth, half-heresy Christianity has distorted, perverted and twisted the TRUE historical and biblical TRUTH of the "spoken words of Christ IN the Gospel.....It was Jesus Christ HIMSELF, who established, initiated and formed His One (and only) True (Universal - Catholic) Church over 2000 years ago --through HIS Apostles-- who were guided, led, instructed and directed by the Holy Spirit. EVERY PROTESTANT denomination, all 42,000 of them, beginning with Luther were, rebellious and defiant,(hostile & inconsistent) "man-made" doctrines of beliefs, including "sola scriptura" which is a "self-proclaimed" man-made "opinionated myth"
The FULLNESS of the TRUTH and FAITH, has, is and will continue to be in Jesus Christ and His One True Apostolic Catholic Church. Despite your (personal) "false and condemning" anti-catholic heretical attacks---The One True Catholic Church of Jesus Christs---LIVES ON--and will continue, grow and teach the TRUTH of the Gospel of Jesus!!!

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#419401 Feb 1, 2013
LTM wrote:
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Once again you are trying to put words in my mouth .
I am asking if you can't recognize the brothers of Jesus as His really brother how can you recognize Mary as His really mother based on Catholic Logic.
Because Jesus recognized anyone who did the will of His Father in heaven as His brothers, His sisters, and His Mother.
Your saying it wasn't Jesus' really brothers, with that kind of think Mary isn't His really Mother then .
Mary and the brothers were not part of the crowd they came after, and were signaled out as 'THE MOTHER AND BROTHERS OF JESUS'.
JESUS RECOGNIZED EVERYONE BUT THEM AS HIS BROTHERS AND MOTHER.
So where did that leave Mary.
ANTHONY.
where she and his siblings were in the Beginning, on the outside looking in. and she and them remained that way until after His death. even the Prostitute sinner was smarter than Mary, as well as the woman at the well. they were sinners, and acknowledged Him as their Savior, it took Mary even longer, and His siblings even longer as they mocked Him[john 7:2-5]. thankfully,in His mercy and His Grace, they also came to the only Conclusion that a Person can make(a fool says otherwise). He is who He said that He was, He is God.the Son of the Living God.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#419402 Feb 1, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
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HOJO says..
......... not dependent upon a "small handful of pedphile priests" who have "gone against the virtues, righteousnss and laws of God AND the TRUE DOCTRINE OF TEACHINGS of Catholic Church.
MICHAEL says.....why don't you attack your church leaders who have gone against the virtues and attack the clergy that let the criminals in your church roam freely committing even more disgusting crimes for years!!?
Why would you attack me who has done nothing wrong, and you not attack those that have caused the greatest pain in your church?
Why are you AFRAID to speak out against those that committed the worst sins of all and why are you AFRAID to speak out against the BISHOPS/CARDINALS who allowed these clergy to commit the worst sins/crimes of all?
I have never owned or fired a gun in my life.
If you can't believe what your church leaders tell you today, what makes you think they were any different 2,000 years ago.
You keep on believing, your like a child with a toy.
Like I said before: You still don't get it!! OK Michael, stay hostile, stay angry, hold on to your hatred, keep firing your anti-catholic antagonistic (blanks) until you finally go out and buy that AK-47. Then you can do what the elementary school assassin did when he killed 20+ children in the same kind of rage hostility and anger. You can start "blasting" in Catholic Churches against "preists and bishops" like you "spray your blank bullets" on this forum, against Clay, Anthony, Regina and myself. "NO DIFFERENCE!!! No wonder you left the Catholic Church!!--No wonder you are not a Christian!! Is it NOW an agnostic or an atheist! Whatever it is Michael--you have some "serious anger-hatred issues!
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#419403 Feb 1, 2013
LTM wrote:
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If a catholic priest's are practising Celibacy, why do so many of them have transmited deceases. Aid is rapid among priest.
Report: Priests hit hard by hidden AIDS epidemic
January 31, 2000
KANSAS CITY, Missouri (AP)-- Roman Catholic priests in the United States are dying from AIDS-related illnesses at a rate four times higher than the general population and the cause is often concealed on their death certificates, The Kansas City Star reported in a series of stories that started Sunday.
In the first of a three-part series, the newspaper said death certificates and interviews with experts indicated several hundred priests have died of AIDS-related illnesses since the mid-1980s and hundreds more are living with HIV, the virus that causes the disease.
"I think this speaks to a failure on the part of the church," said Auxiliary Bishop Thomas Gumbleton of the Archdiocese of Detroit. "Gay priests and heterosexual priests didn't know how to handle their sexuality, their sexual drive. And so they would handle it in ways that were not healthy."
The Star received 801 responses to questionnaires that were sent last fall to 3,000 of the 46,000 priests in the United States. The margin of error of the survey was 3.5 percentage points.
Six of 10 priests responding said they knew of at least one priest who had died of an AIDS-related illness, and one-third knew a priest living with AIDS. Three-fourths said the church needed to provide more education to seminarians on sexual issues.
"How to be celibate and to be gay at the same time, and how to be celibate and heterosexual at the same time, that's what we were never really taught how to do. And that was a major failing," Gumbleton said.
Asked about their sexual orientation, 75 percent said they were heterosexual, 15 percent said they were homosexual, and 5 percent said they were bisexual.
The Rev. John Keenan, who runs Trinity House, an outpatient clinic in Chicago for priests, said he believes most priests with AIDS contracted the disease through same-sex relations. He said he treated one priest who had infected eight other priests.
The Star said precise numbers of priests who have died of AIDS or become infected with HIV is unknown, partly because many suffer in solitude. When priests tell their superiors, the cases generally are handled quietly.
The newspaper cited the case of Bishop Emerson Moore, who left the Archdiocese of New York in 1995 and went to Minnesota, where he died in a hospice of an AIDS-related illness. His death certificate attributed the death to "unknown natural causes" and listed his occupation as "laborer" in the manufacturing industry.
After an AIDS activist filed a complaint, officials changed the cause of death to "HIV-related illness," the Star said, but the occupation was not corrected.
The newspaper said the death rate among priests from AIDS appears to be at least four times that of the rate for the general U.S. population.
Some priests and behavioral experts believe the church has scared priests into silence by treating homosexual acts as an abomination and the breaking of celibacy vows as shameful, the Star said.
Catholic cardinals in the United States and high-ranking church officials in the Vatican declined requests to discuss the newspaper's findings, The Star reported. The Vatican referred questions to local bishops.
Bishop Raymond Boland of the Diocese of Kansas City-St. Joseph said the AIDS deaths show that priests are human.
So if the 20-30 percent of protestant clergy who have adulterous sexual contact with congregants get the clap, that's better than AIDS?
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#419404 Feb 1, 2013
LTM wrote:
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Once again you are trying to put words in my mouth .
I am asking if you can't recognize the brothers of Jesus as His really brother how can you recognize Mary as His really mother based on Catholic Logic.
Because Jesus recognized anyone who did the will of His Father in heaven as His brothers, His sisters, and His Mother.
Your saying it wasn't Jesus' really brothers, with that kind of think Mary isn't His really Mother then .
Mary and the brothers were not part of the crowd they came after, and were signaled out as 'THE MOTHER AND BROTHERS OF JESUS'.
JESUS RECOGNIZED EVERYONE BUT THEM AS HIS BROTHERS AND MOTHER.
So where did that leave Mary.
ANTHONY.
You keep asking where Mary is left when Jesus says certain things. I can only assume that you're trying to denigrate her role as Jesus's mother. If Jesus was as cavalier towards her as you suggest it would mean He dishonered her and would be breaking the commandment.

The bible says brothers, sisters and mothers a lot when they weren't biologically siblings or parents. The fact is the bible NEVER says Mary was the mother of ANYONE but Jesus.
LTM

Sudbury, Canada

#419405 Feb 1, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Also, if Jesus says that everyone who does the will of the Father in heaven is His brother, sister and mother why then must we assume that everyone mentioned in scripture are His biological siblings?
But your saying they weren't really Jesus brothers/ not me.

The adopted sons and daughters of God are all who follow Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.
Re-birth in the Spirit of "ALMIGHTY GOD THE MOST HIGH GOD"
YOU CAN'T IMPROVE ON GODS WORD.
WE KNOW MARY IS THE MOTHER OF JESUS BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS SO.
WE KNOW THAT JESUS HAD BROTHERS AND SISTERS BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS SO.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT JOHN THE BAPTIST WAS JESUS' COUSIN BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS SO.
WE ALSO KNOW MARY'S COUSIN WAS ELIZEBETH BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS SO.

WHEN YOU START MESSING AROUND WITH THE WORD OF THE LORD ,CHANGING IT FROM WHAT IT REALLY SAYS YOU HAVE TO TRY TO COME UP WITH ALL KIND OF SCENERIO'S TO FIT .
THAT IS WHAT YOU CATHOLIC CHURCH FATHER'S DID ANTHONY .
THE CATHOLIC DOCTRINE IS BUILT UPON ONE LIE AFTER ANOTHER.
ASSUMPTION UPON ASSUMPTIONS. DECLARATIONS THAT YOUR POPES HAVE DECLARE TO BE THE DOCTRINE AND YOUR TRADITIONAL BELIEVES TODAY.
ITS NOT BIBICAL. THE MINUTE YOU BUILD A IDOL BOW TO THEM AND PRAY YOU HAVE BECOME AN ABOMINATION TO ALMIGHTY GOD.
rider

Gwinn, MI

#419406 Feb 1, 2013
True evil does not develop in a vacuum.
Evil is arrogant. It has no conscience. It is utterly self-serving. It hides from the light and will attack, even destroy others to preserve its own demented delusions. It is an unrestrained sociopath, wallowing in the murky darkness of its own psychosis while endlessly rationalizing its terrible deeds. It infiltrates the weak-minded and subverts the weak of character.
Evil... creates a world of shadows - shadow play - shadow government. It lives by the lie.
“The Big Lie,” once thought to be the exclusive purview of the Nazis, has become canonized in our form of government. And it is growing more perverse—more insidious. Like the Nazis before the fall of the Third Reich, we are a nation wallowing in the murky darkness of our own psychosis.
I can think of no contemporary American family more twisted and evil than the Bush dynasty.
The Bush family’s rapacious greed and depravity can trace its lineage to New England’s Pierce family. Both George Herbert Walker Bush and his wife Barbara Pierce (of Merrill, Lynch, Pierce, Fenner and Smith), as was President Franklin Pierce, are descended from this same family. Originally the powerful Percy family, they changed their name to Pierce and quickly emigrated to America when Thomas Percy’s involvement in the Gun Powder Plot to assassinate King James I was revealed.[*]
Bush’s membership in the shadowy Yale secret society of Skull and Bones (S&B) has likewise not been widely reported. S&B is made up of members recruited exclusively from the ranks of the wealthy Eastern Establishment.[*] As Hoover Institute professor Antony Sutton writes in America’s Secret Establishment: An Introduction to the Order of Skull and Bones:
“Those on the inside know it as The Order. Others have known it for more than 150 years as Chapter 322 of a German secret society. More formally for legal purposes, The Order was incorporated as The Russell Trust in 1856. It was also known as the Brotherhood of Death....”[1]
Many historians claim that S&B sprung up as a direct extension of America’s oldest Greek-letter college secret society, Phi Beta Kappa. As Sutton writes:
“The Order is not just another campus Greek letter fraternal society with passwords and handgrips, common to most campuses.... Chapter 322 is a secret society whose members are sworn to silence. It only exists on the Yale campus. It has rules. It has ceremonial rites. It is not at all happy with prying probing citizens.... Above all the Order is powerful, unbelievably powerful....”[2]
S&B members occupy key positions in commerce, media, diplomacy, education, espionage, finance, law and politics—having a profound impact on world events. As Sutton adds:
“Among academic associations, the American Historical Association, the American Economic Association, the American Chemical Society and the American Psychological Association were all started by members of the Order or persons close to the Order.... These are key associations for the conditioning of society.... The phenomenon of The Order as the first on the scene is found especially among foundations.”[3]
http://www.voxfux.com/features/bush_world_cla ...
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#419407 Feb 1, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>your problem is that you have no understanding of the Bible. yet Mary did and it wasnt even written yet.lol
So I will make it simple for you so that even you and clay can understand.
Jesus was telling the World that all have sinned and Need His forgiveness, and the Comforter.
now on the Other hand, mary knew that, tha she was born with Sin nature and therefore when He was Born SHE[MARY] offerred up a sin offerring.
and the vatican cant deny this since it is written in the Bible.
and also the Bible records that she[Mary} was in the upper room when she along with the rest of those Believers Received the Holy Ghost.
and to help you undestand that, being "full of the Holy Ghost" before Jesus died is not the same Spiritual Experience that they received on that very special day when Jesus and God ,thru the Holy Ghost began to add onto the Church.AND TO LET YOU CATHOLICS KNOW, NONE OF THEM WERE SPRINKLED WHEN THOSE PEOPLE WERE JUST LITTLE BABIES.LOL
This has nothing to do with you and LTM's assertion that Mary was insignifcant in her role as the Mother of the Lord. If you all keep pointing out scripture verses in which Jesus seamingly rebukes her, you must also admit that you are accusing Jesus of dishonoring His mother.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#419408 Feb 1, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
i CANT STAND THIS WEATEHR.
Wed. is was around 70 degrees, thurs. rainy with heavy wind , today, it was around 9 degrees with about an inch of snow.
wouldnt even want to guess what it will be tomorrow
Minus 17 F when I started my truck this morning.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#419409 Feb 1, 2013
MICHAEL wrote:
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If you don't know by now after 2,000 years who all the players were in the bible and how they fit biologically with each other it makes the whole story dysfunctional.
You say brothers meant cousins but you have no information to back up your claim. Maybe James and others mentioned as brothers were really NEIGHBORS kids and not cousins or brothers at all.(lol)
2,000 years and no one has a clue who the real characters were that were written about in the bible.
Its almost like a Shakespeare play where all the characters seem to come to life, even though they never existed.
Why do you care, Jesus didn't exist as far as you're concerned.
RCC Superiority So BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#419410 Feb 1, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Like I said before: You still don't get it!! OK Michael, stay hostile, stay angry, hold on to your hatred, keep firing your anti-catholic antagonistic (blanks) until you finally go out and buy that AK-47. Then you can do what the elementary school assassin did when he killed 20+ children in the same kind of rage hostility and anger. You can start "blasting" in Catholic Churches against "preists and bishops" like you "spray your blank bullets" on this forum, against Clay, Anthony, Regina and myself. "NO DIFFERENCE!!! No wonder you left the Catholic Church!!--No wonder you are not a Christian!! Is it NOW an agnostic or an atheist! Whatever it is Michael--you have some "serious anger-hatred issues!
Hojo...

Your faith and morals are not morally superior all others.

In fact, all of what we commonly call REALITY point to anything but.

It is absurd how you stand against Reformation American ideals, yet enjoy them yourself.

It is absurd to keep defending criminal bankers and perverts like Cardinal Law and his Vatican comrades -- as morally superior, guided by Jesus, blah, blah...

Get over the persecution stuff. No one "Hates." Look at it from this prospective -- the RCC moral superiority thing is great comedy club material.

Why not be happy with a good church, and not deny others the honor of using the term? Look in the mirror!
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#419411 Feb 1, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>dont be asinine.lol.
His Church is NOT your church.
His Church is the Born Again Christian, not 3 weeks old babies.lol
Christianity (from the Ancient Greek: &#935;&#961;&#953; &#963;&#964;&#953; &#945;&#957;&#972; &#962; Christianos[1] and the Latin suffix -itas) is a monotheistic and Abrahamic religion[2] based on the life and teachings of Jesus as presented in canonical gospels and other New Testament writings.[3] It also considers the Hebrew Bible, which is known as the Old Testament, to be canonical. Adherents of the Christian faith are known as Christians.[1]
The mainstream Christian belief is that Jesus is the Son of God, fully divine and fully human and the savior of humanity. Because of this, Christians commonly refer to Jesus as Christ or Messiah.[4] Jesus' ministry, sacrificial death, and subsequent resurrection are often referred to as the Gospel, meaning "Good News" (from the Greek: &#949;&#8016;&#945 ;&#947;&#947;&#941 ;&#955;&#953;&#959 ;&#957; euangélion). In short, the Gospel is news of God the Father's eternal victory over evil,[5] and the promise of salvation and eternal life for all people, through divine grace.[6]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity
When Christianity came to a region and people became believers then a CHURCH was formed from those Believers.
but hey, anthony dont believe me, this is only common sense.
something that you robots are not allowed to pursue or possess.lol
Who cares what wiki says? And if you're really sola scriptura you'll produce the bible verse that says Jesus founded Christianity.

He founded His Church. He didn't found thousands of denominations. There existed only one Church until the East/West schism in AD 1054. All of history confirms this. Period. Amen.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#419412 Feb 1, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
But your saying they weren't really Jesus brothers/ not me.
The adopted sons and daughters of God are all who follow Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.
Re-birth in the Spirit of "ALMIGHTY GOD THE MOST HIGH GOD"
YOU CAN'T IMPROVE ON GODS WORD.
WE KNOW MARY IS THE MOTHER OF JESUS BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS SO.
WE KNOW THAT JESUS HAD BROTHERS AND SISTERS BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS SO.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT JOHN THE BAPTIST WAS JESUS' COUSIN BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS SO.
WE ALSO KNOW MARY'S COUSIN WAS ELIZEBETH BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS SO.
WHEN YOU START MESSING AROUND WITH THE WORD OF THE LORD ,CHANGING IT FROM WHAT IT REALLY SAYS YOU HAVE TO TRY TO COME UP WITH ALL KIND OF SCENERIO'S TO FIT .
THAT IS WHAT YOU CATHOLIC CHURCH FATHER'S DID ANTHONY .
THE CATHOLIC DOCTRINE IS BUILT UPON ONE LIE AFTER ANOTHER.
ASSUMPTION UPON ASSUMPTIONS. DECLARATIONS THAT YOUR POPES HAVE DECLARE TO BE THE DOCTRINE AND YOUR TRADITIONAL BELIEVES TODAY.
ITS NOT BIBICAL. THE MINUTE YOU BUILD A IDOL BOW TO THEM AND PRAY YOU HAVE BECOME AN ABOMINATION TO ALMIGHTY GOD.
The idea that Mary had other children was invented about 200 years ago. All of your protestant ancestors said she was ever-virgin and they knew the bible a lot better than you or preston, so don't try to pin it only on the Catholic and Orthodox Churches.
LTM

Sudbury, Canada

#419413 Feb 1, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>where she and his siblings were in the Beginning, on the outside looking in. and she and them remained that way until after His death. even the Prostitute sinner was smarter than Mary, as well as the woman at the well. they were sinners, and acknowledged Him as their Savior, it took Mary even longer, and His siblings even longer as they mocked Him[john 7:2-5]. thankfully,in His mercy and His Grace, they also came to the only Conclusion that a Person can make(a fool says otherwise). He is who He said that He was, He is God.the Son of the Living God.
Amen Preston, I believe that Mary and Jesus' brothers came to that place to get Him to stop preaching, He had became an embrassment to them.
RCC Superiority So BUSTED

Middletown, NJ

#419414 Feb 1, 2013
I know I'm a jackass. I can't help myself. You see, I So want to marry my boyfriend, Michael, but the RCC won't let me. That's why I'm throwing hissy fits and stamping my feet like a little baby.

I'm a punk. Forgive me.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#419415 Feb 1, 2013
RCC Superiority So BUSTED wrote:
<quoted text>
Why not be happy with a good church, and not deny others the honor of using the term? Look in the mirror!
Still got it wrong- RCC Supe--just like always. Denying others of using the term church?? What-where-who is denying anyone?? You just "keep making things up" ---do you lay awake at night "dreaming these lies uyp' or is it just in your day-to-day nature!! What you "fail to comprehend" is that all Christians are our ecumentical brothers and sisters in Christ. Jesus established, formed and inititated His One True Catholic Church over 2000 years ago in Matthew 16:13-21. it was His ONE TRUE CHURCH ---but not the "only" Church (Lutheran,Baptist, Episcopalian, Methodist, and so on), We as Catholics, respect and acknowledge there faith in Jesus Christ just like (many of them) reciprocate with us.---So tell me "where are we Catholics denying others the term church. Your vengeance, hatred and hostility for us Catholics and Jesus Christ Himself is corrupting and polluting your mind, heart and soul!!!!
LTM

Sudbury, Canada

#419416 Feb 1, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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So if the 20-30 percent of protestant clergy who have adulterous sexual contact with congregants get the clap, that's better than AIDS?
You don't get it Anthony, Catholic priest take an oath not to have sex to stay celibate.
Just because they don't have sex with woman doesn't mean they are not having sex. BREAKING THIS OATH
Protestant clergymen don't take this oath.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#419417 Feb 1, 2013
RCC Superiority So BUSTED wrote:
I know I'm a jackass. I can't help myself. You see, I So want to marry my boyfriend, Michael, but the RCC won't let me. That's why I'm throwing hissy fits and stamping my feet like a little baby.
I'm a punk. Forgive me.
Go find a "homosexual Church" in Washington DC inititated by Obama!!
The Nations Capital and the political "liberal hacks" will make it happen!!
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#419418 Feb 1, 2013
LTM wrote:
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Amen Preston, I believe that Mary and Jesus' brothers came to that place to get Him to stop preaching, He had became an embrassment to them.
I have to disagree with you and Preston.

Read Luke 1

Mary's Visit to Elizabeth

39And Mary arose in those days, and went into the hill country with haste, into a city of Judah;

40And entered into the house of Zachariah, and greeted Elizabeth.

41And it came to pass, that, when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit:

42And she spoke out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb.

43And why is this granted me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

44For, lo, as soon as the voice of your greeting sounded in my ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.

45And blessed is she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord.

Mary's Song

46And Mary said, My soul does magnify the Lord,

47And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior.

48For he has regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.

49For he that is mighty has done to me great things; and holy is his name.

50And his mercy is on them that fear him from generation to generation.

51He has showed strength with his arm; he has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.

52He has put down the mighty from their seats, and exalted them of low degree.

53He has filled the hungry with good things; and the rich he has sent empty away.

54He has helped his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy;

55As he spoke to our fathers, to Abraham, and to his descendants forever.

56And Mary abode with her about three months, and returned to her own house.

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