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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 603081 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Clay

Chicago, IL

#419320 Jan 31, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
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What should I do now, call you a whitewashed tomb? Point out the fact that this particular heresy of yours is maybe 100 years old, if that (more like 40 or 50)? That no one, and I mean no one, in all of Christendom believed as you do until very recently?
That's not going to help anyone, Preston. Get over your Napoleon complex and accept the fact that you reject the Church Christ founded for one that cropped up some 1,900+ years later. Be happy with your choice! I know I am! In fact, after reading all the protestant posts here I've been making it a habit to thank God a minimum of ten times a day that I'm Catholic!! Long live the Catholic Church!!! May the gates of hell never prevail against her!!! Oh, yeah, that's right.....Christ already promised that they wouldn't! Thank you, Lord!
I kid you not, Confrint was probably alive when Evangelicals began teaching that Mary and Joseph had other children! I don't know if Preston was. But that is how new this teaching is.
No Protestant reformer taught it. Not Zwigli, Luther or Calvin.
ReginaM

Middletown, NJ

#419321 Jan 31, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
QUESTION
Superior! TO WHAT...
YEP
FIRST IN LIES
FIRST IN DECEIT
FIRST IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.... TORTURE,MURDER, IN THE NAME OF JESUS.
FIRST IN CHILD MOLESTATION AND SEXUAL PERVERSION.
FIRST IN ATTEMPTING TO MONOPOLIZE AND CLAIM A FRANCHISE UPON THE
SACRIFICE OF THE BLOOD OF JESUS THAT GIVES THE FREE GIFT OF SALVATION TO WHOSO EVER WILL BELIEVE UPON HIM AND ACCEPT JEUS AS THEIR LORD AND SAVIOR
WHEN THE BIBLE SAYS..TO EVER MAN...THAT HAS EVER LIVED ON EARTH ON EARTH
(Snipped because I couldn't stand to see scripture with the rest of your sinful post. What a blasphemer you are!)

The Protestant Error of Sensationalism of Apparent Catholic Setbacks:
When I say "apparent", I mean just that.
Practically every newsworthy item that appears to show the Catholic Church in a bad light is blown all out of proportion by "I told you so" Protestants. Cases in point:

1) The finding of an apparent Biblical ossuary which has an inscription which says "James, Son of Joseph, Brother of Jesus":
Protestants are rejoicing in the streets shouting, "We told you so that Mary had other children"! If Protestants would only read the Bible which they claim that they read, they would see that there is nothing new here as far as "the brother of Jesus" is concerned.
"But I saw none of the other apostles except James the Lord's brother." Galatians 1:19
That verse has been in Holy Scripture for well over 1900 years, so why all the hype over the ossuary if not for yet another Protestant attack with false charges against the Catholic Church?
Did you notice that the "James" mentioned in that verse is also an Apostle? There are two Apostles named James, and Holy Scripture gives us the names of the parents of both of them, and neither of the mothers is the Blessed Virgin Mary. However, there is something at odds with Scripture in that inscription, and that is the "James" mentioned on the ossuary had a father named Joseph. Too bad that Holy Scripture tells us that neither father of the two Apostles called "James" was named Joseph, but were named Zebedee and Cleophas.
Did any Protestant bother to check the facts before making yet more false charges against the Catholic Church, and then go about rejoicing over the lie that I have shown that it is?

Why didn't they first use their invented Sola Scriptura as I did, to find themselves to be without foundation in accusing the Catholic Church yet again that "Mary had other children"?
This is a prime example of how the false doctrine of Sola Scriptura can be used as a tool to the advantage of Catholics as well, and to the disadvantage of Protestants, in proving from Scripture alone, the fact that the ossuary inscription has nothing to do with Jesus Christ, the two Apostles named James, the Blessed Virgin Mary, or Saint Joseph.
Now why didn't Bible believing Protestants find it first? Is it because they did not want to find the truth but preferred to believe the lie?
http://home.inreach.com/bstanley/errprot.htm
Clay

Chicago, IL

#419322 Jan 31, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>I have been on this forum for 5 years, please enlighten me as to what I teach(and I dont) is different than what any Apostle has stated.
I certain dont beleive the First chrsitians got it wrong, but your church, with the help of the devil, have stolen [or tried to]the truth that they taught
If you had a time machine and went back to talk to Paul, and started rambling about sola scripture, he'd stare at you in confusion for about ten minutes. Then he would politely dismiss you as a heretic.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#419323 Jan 31, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
You're so old Confrint, I bet you were alive when this evangelical teaching was invented. I'm serious too.
You don't know how to read and interpret scripture. You guys look at it with a 21st century lense to dictate what 1st century Christians should understand. You're heretics. Now Scram.
Now would you just love to pull a inquisition... upon me and torture me...

as you church has done to those that declare the truth of God's word.

The terrible truth is...YOU WILL REPEAT YOUR INQUISITION, IN THE TRIBULATION...

When you pagans Constantin-ism Catholics... join up with the antichrist...you will literally drink the blood of those that you murder in the tribulation because they believe in Jesus Christ instead of the antichrist.

___

Rev 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

Rev 6:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

Rev 6:11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#419324 Jan 31, 2013
I am not the only person who is dubious about iggie and his words.lol
XIII. Ignatius
A Vindication by Edward Gibbon
I am accused of throwing out a false accusation against this Father,(62) because I had observed (63) that Ignatius, defending against the Gnostics the resurrection of Christ, employs a vague and doubtful tradition, instead of quoting the certain testimony of the Evangelists: and this observation was justified by a remarkable passage of Ignatius, in his Epistle to the Smyrnaeans, which I cited according to the volume and the page of the best edition of the Apostolical Fathers, published at Amsterdam, 1724, in two volumes in folio. The Criticism of Mr. Davis is announced by one of those solemn declarations which leave not any refuge, if they are convicted of falsehood. "I cannot find any passage that bears the least affinity to what Mr. Gibbon observes, in the whole Epistle, which I have read over more than once."

I had already marked the situation; nor is it in my power to prove the existence, of this passage, by any other means than by producing the words of the original.(LOL)


(THE WORDS OF IGGIE)"I have known, and I believe, that after his resurrection likewise he existed in the flesh: And when he came to Peter, and to the rest, he said unto them, Take, handle me, and see that I am not an incorporal daemon or spirit. And they touched him, and believed."
The faith of the Apostles confuted the impious error of the Gnostics, which attributed only the appearances of a human body to the Son of God: and it was the great object of Ignatius, in the last moments of his life, to secure the Christians of Asia from the snares of those dangerous Heretics. According to the tradition of the modern Greeks, Ignatius was the child whom Jesus received into his arms (See Tillemont Mem. Eccles. tom. ii. part ii. p. 43.); yet as he could scarcely be old enough to remember the resurrection of the Son of God, he must have derived his knowledge either from our present Evangelists, or from some Apocryphal Gospel, or from some unwritten tradition.

I. The Gospels of St. Luke and St. John would undoubtedly have supplied Ignatius with the most invincible proofs of the reality of the body of Christ, when he appeared to the Apostles after his resurrection; but neither of those Gospels contain the characteristic words of and the important circumstance that either Peter, or those who were with Peter, touched the body of Christ and believed.

Had the saint designed to quote the Evangelist on a very nice subject of controversy, he would not surely have exposed himself, by an inaccurate, or rather by a false, reference, to the just reproaches of the Gnostics. On this occasion, therefore,

Ignatius did not employ, as he might have done, against the Heretics, the certain testimony of the Evangelists.] WOW, LOOK AS IF WE HAVE ONE OF THE EARLY WRITERS CAUGTH IN A LIE.

I WILL STAND ON THE DISCERNEMENT THAT GOD HAS GIVEN ME CONCERNING THIS IDIOT, IGGIE. THAT DISCERNMENT HAS NEVER FAILED ME AT ANY TIME.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#419325 Jan 31, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
If you had a time machine and went back to talk to Paul, and started rambling about sola scripture, he'd stare at you in confusion for about ten minutes. Then he would politely dismiss you as a heretic.
i DONT THINK SO, FOR ONE SIMPLE REASON, PAUL WAS ONE OF THOSE WHO TOLD MY GRANDFATHER TO GO BACK AND TELL ME THAT GOD has A JOB FOR ME TO DO.
ReginaM

Middletown, NJ

#419326 Jan 31, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
I kid you not, Confrint was probably alive when Evangelicals began teaching that Mary and Joseph had other children! I don't know if Preston was. But that is how new this teaching is.
No Protestant reformer taught it. Not Zwigli, Luther or Calvin.
lol, I believe you're right! It really is very, very recent. All this born-again, bible only, fundie movement has only been around since what, the 60s? It's like a parody of Christianity. They should be ashamed of themselves. They treat Christ like He's one of their next door neighbor; a regular guy, a real pal! They have no respect whatsoever. There's no worship and adoration of God. He's no different than one of their bowling buddies.

The author of the article I've been quoting about the "Multiple Errors of Protestantism" hit the nail on the head when he said that "their hatred for the Catholic Church is greater than their love for GOD and for the truth, and that all they are really interested in is their own agenda." Pitiful.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#419327 Jan 31, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
I kid you not, Confrint was probably alive when Evangelicals began teaching that Mary and Joseph had other children! I don't know if Preston was. But that is how new this teaching is.
No Protestant reformer taught it. Not Zwigli, Luther or Calvin.
dont play up to me, your true colors have been shown.

and if any preacher ever taught otherwise about the children of mary, then they were liars. plain and simple,and anyone that would believe them, need to search their own soul because it is lost and going to hell.
ReginaM

Middletown, NJ

#419328 Jan 31, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
If you had a time machine and went back to talk to Paul, and started rambling about sola scripture, he'd stare at you in confusion for about ten minutes. Then he would politely dismiss you as a heretic.
lol, Brilliant!

(and very correct!)

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#419329 Jan 31, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
Now would you just love to pull a inquisition... upon me and torture me...
as you church has done to those that declare the truth of God's word.
The terrible truth is...YOU WILL REPEAT YOUR INQUISITION, IN THE TRIBULATION...
When you pagans Constantin-ism Catholics... join up with the antichrist...you will literally drink the blood of those that you murder in the tribulation because they believe in Jesus Christ instead of the antichrist.
___
Rev 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
Rev 6:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
Rev 6:11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
he is telling us that we cant read and understand Scriptures and he is the one that couldnt tell someone what they thought and had to say, what the catholic propogandra says, that is what I believe.

it is pathetic that an adult like clay cant think for himself, and probably has to be told when to come in out of the rain.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#419330 Jan 31, 2013
Christ ... was the only Son of Mary, and the Virgin Mary bore no children besides Him ... I am inclined to agree with those who declare that 'brothers' really mean 'cousins' here, for Holy Writ and the Jews always call cousins brothers.

yet other so called teachers state that Joseph had these other children, making them half brothers and sisters.

just one lie after another and disregard what those who walked with Jesus said.

beleive a lie and be dammed, that is the future of almost all catholics, hopefully some will realize that men like luther were liars.
ReginaM

Middletown, NJ

#419331 Jan 31, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>I am sorry that I shared the pic of my grandson with YOU. I am truly ashamed of the deceitfulness and YOU that you are displaying on this forum. they couldnt be the children of Joseph since the Bible doesnt record them along for the ride to Egypt nor to Bethleham, nor are they included when she left Jesus alone by Himself. thankfully God watched over him and today, she would be in jail,SINCE HE WOULDNT HAVE BEEN THE SON OF JOSEPH.
you dont see that mary had other children because you cant accept the FACT that your church is lying, just like the devil.
yet those children were with her constantly after they were born, and to lie and say they were joseph's is rediculous since then they would have been older than her since your church teaches that she was only around 13 or 14.
Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive and boy has your church really practiced a lot of deceiving.
I am really sorry that I ahve tried to portray you as a very nice person, however nice people dont mock the Truth and lie like you are doing.(and Yes, I thought about this statement before I posted it). but might as well say it as think it.
I'm not sorry...he's a beautiful baby and I love his cute little face. I'm just worried because he hasn't been baptized.

Well, Preston, if you feel you must pout and take your ball and go home, then by all means....
You see, I value the truth and am not here to play children's games. Be sure to say hello to your new best friends, Heckle and Jeckle.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#419332 Jan 31, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
If you had a time machine and went back to talk to Paul, and started rambling about sola scripture, he'd stare at you in confusion for about ten minutes. Then he would politely dismiss you as a heretic.

lol, Brilliant!

(and very correct!)

~~~

YOUU PROPAGATE LIES ABOUT THE APOSTLE PAUL

WHAT THE APOSTLE PAUL ACTUALLY WROTE/SAID WAS...

Rom 1:14 I am debtor both to the Greeks, and to the Barbarians; both to the wise, and to the unwise.

Rom 1:15 So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also.

Rom 1:16 --> For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. <--

---

1Co_9:16 For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea,

==>woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!

---

-->THE APOSTLE PAUL DID NOT PREACH...CONSTANTIN-ISM

HE PREACHED CHRIST CRUCIFIED...

___

1Co 2:1 And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.

1Co 2:2 ==> For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified. <==
socci

Cameron, MO

#419334 Jan 31, 2013
Clay wrote:
What Apostle is responsible for ordaining the Bishops of the Nazarenes? And who's Bible do they use?
I love you conspiracy Christians! So little faith in Jesus Christ..

The Nazarenes are found in the book of Acts where Paul is being accused by the pharisees of being a Nazarene. Matthew is also known to have been with them. All the Aposltes were together so they were all there. The Catholic historians then record the Nazarenes in the region of Syria all the way into the 11th century.

History's not a conspiracy but Rome has a conspiracy to deceive everyone possible. It's the way they keep the empire.
Guest

Poplar Bluff, MO

#419335 Jan 31, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>I am sorry that I shared the pic of my grandson with YOU. I am truly ashamed of the deceitfulness and YOU that you are displaying on this forum. they couldnt be the children of Joseph since the Bible doesnt record them along for the ride to Egypt nor to Bethleham, nor are they included when she left Jesus alone by Himself. thankfully God watched over him and today, she would be in jail,SINCE HE WOULDNT HAVE BEEN THE SON OF JOSEPH.
you dont see that mary had other children because you cant accept the FACT that your church is lying, just like the devil.
yet those children were with her constantly after they were born, and to lie and say they were joseph's is rediculous since then they would have been older than her since your church teaches that she was only around 13 or 14.
Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive and boy has your church really practiced a lot of deceiving.
I am really sorry that I ahve tried to portray you as a very nice person, however nice people dont mock the Truth and lie like you are doing.(and Yes, I thought about this statement before I posted it). but might as well say it as think it.
<snicker> need I say more Peanut..........rotflmbo
Guest

Poplar Bluff, MO

#419336 Jan 31, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not sorry...he's a beautiful baby and I love his cute little face. I'm just worried because he hasn't been baptized.
Well, Preston, if you feel you must pout and take your ball and go home, then by all means....
You see, I value the truth and am not here to play children's games. Be sure to say hello to your new best friends, Heckle and Jeckle.
<snicker> .......... rotflmbo

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#419337 Jan 31, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not sorry...he's a beautiful baby and I love his cute little face. I'm just worried because he hasn't been baptized.
Well, Preston, if you feel you must pout and take your ball and go home, then by all means....
You see, I value the truth and am not here to play children's games. Be sure to say hello to your new best friends, Heckle and Jeckle.
when he gets Saved, then he will be eligible to be Baptised.

it isnt pouting, I am perturbed because people like you and clay blaspheme the Word of God by calling it a lie.

so I had to leave for a couple of hours.a Preacher can only stand so much lying before he pukes.and you and clay have lied a lot tonight,

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#419338 Jan 31, 2013
Guest wrote:
<quoted text><snicker> need I say more Peanut..........rotflmbo
your cult is no different than any other cult.
truth

Perth, Australia

#419339 Jan 31, 2013
Mesopotania
is better conclusion
http://www.google.com.au/search...
truth

Perth, Australia

#419340 Jan 31, 2013
Not necessary every one is not liar depend how you translate as great manipulation..o yes all of us is great speakers..me..i am not perfect as others try to be as well express themself about others.
http://www.google.com.au/search...

Others can claim as bible declare
Palestine is been on that place as well..Are you for sure confe i am wrong?

25 000 years ago others say Israel is been there before huge amount km

Are you for sure confe if we reverse time back..what we will see..what other masters wrote how they liked about others see as they want to see yes from us as well others?

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