Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story
ReginaM

Middletown, NJ

#419231 Jan 31, 2013
LTM wrote:
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This is too funny to comment on.
To non-Christians, yes it is funny.

Give it up, LTM. You're biblically illiterate.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#419232 Jan 31, 2013
Chuck wrote:
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This was your verse to prove the assumption of Mary:
Revelation 12:1 And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars.
and then 4 verses down you believe it's still Mary and your arguement now is you are no an authority on interpreting scripture.
**huh**
I'm giving you an interpretation of the Church.

"Revelation is apocalyptic literature unique to the 1st century. It contains varied symbolism and multiple meanings of the woman (Mary, the Church and Israel)." The Catholic Church does not base her teachings on Mary strictly from Revelation as it is a difficult book to interpret.

Here's why your so comical. You, a bible alone protestant, is deciding you can infallibly interpret something in direct contradiction to ther sola scriptura protestants. If you guys can't agree on who the woman is, why do you feel you can tell us who the woman is?
ReginaM

Middletown, NJ

#419233 Jan 31, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Mary is our spiritual Mother. We approach her the way Jesus did. We try and imitate Christ by honoring His Mother. This isn't new.
"Woman, behold your son. Then He said to the disciple, son, behold your Mother. And from that hour he took Mary into his home"
John 19: 26-27
BTW, on a side note: if Mary had all these other children .. Why would Jesus entrust someone other than His siblings to take their Mom in?
It's like something out of the DuhVinci Code. Can you imagine other children walking around with the same DNA as Jesus? These folks actually have no problem with this. Absurd! No wonder protestantism is a heresy!
marge

Ames, IA

#419234 Jan 31, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Most protestants adhere to sola scriptura. I guess you're an exception.
Why 'use' anything else? Because the gospel was preached orally for a decade or more before a single passage of the NT was written. The oral preaching of the Word of God by the same men who wrote the NT is no less valuable than the written Word of God. That's why.
Oh but it is less valuable as we see here;

3Therefore, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.

To be 'Certain' we go with what is Written.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#419235 Jan 31, 2013
marge wrote:
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hee hee
I would suggest laying off the weed for awhile since it's giving you the giggles.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#419236 Jan 31, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh but it is less valuable as we see here;
3Therefore, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.
To be 'Certain' we go with what is Written.
So you wouldn't have been certain of the oral preaching of Sts. Peter and Paul or the other apostles unless they wrote it down.

Actually, I think think the only preaching you're certain of is your own. Quit drinking the bong water marge.
ReginaM

Middletown, NJ

#419237 Jan 31, 2013
marge wrote:
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Oh but it is less valuable as we see here;
3Therefore, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.
To be 'Certain' we go with what is Written.
What is written came from what was orally taught.
The bible is the written portion of Tradition.
Sorry, Marge.
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#419238 Jan 31, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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I would suggest laying off the weed for awhile since it's giving you the giggles.
Really Tony???

You're better than that
Pad

Rockford, IL

#419239 Jan 31, 2013
Interesting NEWS from Chiapas, M e x i c o.

Both Voice of the Martyrs, and Amnesty International have reported that hundreds of Mexican evangelicals were forced out of their homes and their homes were torched.The families have gone to a barn to live,very limited space. The evangelicals have been threatened with murder,one pastor actually was killed and beheaded.Several evangelical women were raped.

The perpetrators are called traditionalist Catholics,who practice a mixed form of Catholicism and animism,Which is allowed in the RCCs in Chiapas.I wonder what the Eucharist is in light of those Mexican Catholics,who are the majority there,and are taking part in making life miserable for the evangelicals?

Sorry folks but Catholicism is ripe for mixture with pagan cultures,not evangelicals.NOT surprised at all of those events.I always ask when?

Since: Jan 08

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#419240 Jan 31, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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You said? Other sola scriptura protestants say you're wrong.
I have yet to see where one protestant on this forum disagrees with that statemnt that the woman is Israel

Since: Jan 08

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#419241 Jan 31, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
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To non-Christians, yes it is funny.
Give it up, LTM. You're biblically illiterate.
But I am not and Jesus was not inferring what you are assumming
Clay

United States

#419242 Jan 31, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
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It's like something out of the DuhVinci Code. Can you imagine other children walking around with the same DNA as Jesus? These folks actually have no problem with this. Absurd! No wonder protestantism is a heresy!
I heard someone explain it well. I think it was Madrid or Hahn. If Jesus entrusted the care of His Mother to someone other than His siblings, it would have been basically illegal under Jewish law and totally outside of all cultural norm of that period.(Heck, its even rare today) His supposed siblings would not have their Mother go with anyone but them. And Christ would not offend his brothers and sisters like that.

These folks on here are Conspiracy Christians. They are so hell bent on separating themselves from Catholicism that they threw out all logic.
Lol, the duhVinci code is right.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#419244 Jan 31, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>I have yet to see where one protestant on this forum disagrees with that statemnt that the woman is Israel
Many protestants say the woman represents the Church.

Since: Jan 08

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#419245 Jan 31, 2013
LTM wrote:
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This is too funny to comment on.
reg is being just alittle deceitful it also means [NAY, BUT RATHER]. AND THAT IS THE USAGE IN THE BIBLE.

He replied, "Blessed [rather[ are those who hear the word of God and obey it."

Since: Jan 08

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#419246 Jan 31, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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I'm giving you an interpretation of the Church.
"Revelation is apocalyptic literature unique to the 1st century. It contains varied symbolism and multiple meanings of the woman (Mary, the Church and Israel)."
iF jESUSS WAS WANTING TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT WOMAN BEING THE CHURCH, HE WOULD HAVE SAID SO.

sinc e he started out speaking to the letters to different churches.

so if the rcc believes it is mary, no wonder you people dont know anything about the bible, you allow them to tell you what you think, just like clay showed
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#419247 Jan 31, 2013
Pad wrote:
Interesting NEWS from Chiapas, M e x i c o.
Both Voice of the Martyrs, and Amnesty International have reported that hundreds of Mexican evangelicals were forced out of their homes and their homes were torched.The families have gone to a barn to live,very limited space. The evangelicals have been threatened with murder,one pastor actually was killed and beheaded.Several evangelical women were raped.
The perpetrators are called traditionalist Catholics,who practice a mixed form of Catholicism and animism,Which is allowed in the RCCs in Chiapas.I wonder what the Eucharist is in light of those Mexican Catholics,who are the majority there,and are taking part in making life miserable for the evangelicals?
Sorry folks but Catholicism is ripe for mixture with pagan cultures,not evangelicals.NOT surprised at all of those events.I always ask when?
Maybe you should link it PAD.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#419248 Jan 31, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Mary is our spiritual Mother. We approach her the way Jesus did. We try and imitate Christ by honoring His Mother. This isn't new.
"Woman, behold your son. Then He said to the disciple, son, behold your Mother. And from that hour he took Mary into his home"
John 19: 26-27
BTW, on a side note: if Mary had all these other children .. Why would Jesus entrust someone other than His siblings to take their Mom in?
I guess that you catholics dont read very well, do you?
several years ago, this was brought up and I showed everyone why this was done and in the jewish community is still being done today.

so let me give it to you again and this time take notes so you will remember it.

the widow is given into the care of a rabbi or a priest for a time of bereavement, and that is what Jesus did, He gave his mom into the care of a Priest, John. since his siblings didnt believe in Him at that time.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#419249 Jan 31, 2013
BTW< I hope that no catholic on here is stupid enough to question that fact that Now the NT is in effect and John was now a Priest in the New Dispensation as recorded in the NT

Since: Jan 08

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#419250 Jan 31, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
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What is written came from what was orally taught.
The bible is the written portion of Tradition.
Sorry, Marge.
shame on you for being that ignorant. how many times will a person read that other apostles are mentioning letters written and even given the name of scriptures?

Since: Jan 08

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#419251 Jan 31, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
I heard someone explain it well. I think it was Madrid or Hahn. If Jesus entrusted the care of His Mother to someone other than His siblings, it would have been basically illegal under Jewish law and totally outside of all cultural norm of that period.(Heck, its even rare today) His supposed siblings would not have their Mother go with anyone but them. And Christ would not offend his brothers and sisters like that.
These folks on here are Conspiracy Christians. They are so hell bent on separating themselves from Catholicism that they threw out all logic.
Lol, the duhVinci code is right.
keep reading and you will learn the truth and it didnt come from some catholic apologist like hahn.lol

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