Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Full Story

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#419039 Jan 30, 2013
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LTM wrote:
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In the Name of Jesus of course LOL
Of course!!!!!!!
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#419040 Jan 30, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
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it is a shame that catholics are offended by the Word of God.
No---we are offended by your continuous "distortion, manipulating of the TRUE interpretation of the TRUTH in the Bible, along with the heretical (trash comments) that you Protestants are "so famous for" against Jesus Christ and His (Historically and Biblically PROVEN One True Apostolic Catholic Church. But then, this comes as "no surprise" to ANY of us Catholics, since bible only Protestants are "totally and completely dependent on hostile attacks against Our True Faith and the Catholic Church. You have "proven" over and over again that your bible only beliefs "cannot" stand on its own doctrine of beliefs WITHOUT vengefully condemning and judging the True interpretation of the TRUTH in the Bible which is biblically and historically manifested (only) in Jesus Christ One True Catholic Church!! Until you come to the TRUTH of Jesus Christ and the TRUE Salvation He gives us, you will "continue" as the prodigal son did in Luke 15:11------living on the "outside of the True" always looking in---that is--until--he eventually "came to his senses"!!!!
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#419041 Jan 30, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
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A very nice presentation of the Church as an institution...
if I may I would like to add this...
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p123a9p3.htm
Yes--excellent addition! It continues to spell out the TRUTH that we as Catholics all know, believe, follow and adhere to------ AND that bible only Protestants "willfully, defiantly, rebelliously and ignorantly (reject)"!!!!
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#419042 Jan 30, 2013
LTM wrote:
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Read Romans 8, Romans 10, and Eph 1: 4-8 Anthony,
You need to read them for yourself , hey what you got to lose.
Nothing ventured nothing gained, you do have a priest on this post or will you be breaking a cardinal law; if you read the bible and understand it for yourself.
Read 'em, many times. The bible doesn't belong to you, it belongs to the Church. You may possess a copy and think it applies to you, but it doesn't. It was written, copied, translated and preversed FOR the Church and those IN the Church. Sorry to be so blunt with the truth, but you're one of the reasons protestants are so unlearned and unstable and twist the scriptures to your own destruction.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#419043 Jan 30, 2013
Chuck wrote:
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Christians/Saints..at least you get it Regina. Fact is saints are not dead there are alive and well. Thanks for jumping on board.
You can call yourselves Christian if you want, but the earliest Christians would not have.

Yes, the saints are alive and well, that's why we ask for their prayers and intercessions.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#419044 Jan 30, 2013
Chuck wrote:
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Boy you're right...I was WAYYYYY off. lol
No, you were just wrong.
Fun Facts

Freeland, MI

#419045 Jan 30, 2013
hojo wrote:
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Yes--excellent addition! It continues to spell out the TRUTH that we as Catholics all know, believe, follow and adhere to------ AND that bible only Protestants "willfully, defiantly, rebelliously and ignorantly (reject)"!!!!
You may have missed this...

"Toward unity

820 "Christ bestowed unity on his Church from the beginning. This unity, we believe, subsists in the Catholic Church as something she can never lose, and we hope that it will continue to increase until the end of time."277 Christ always gives his Church the gift of unity, but the Church must always pray and work to maintain, reinforce, and perfect the unity that Christ wills for her. This is why Jesus himself prayed at the hour of his Passion, and does not cease praying to his Father, for the unity of his disciples: "That they may all be one. As you, Father, are in me and I am in you, may they also be one in us,... so that the world may know that you have sent me."278 The desire to recover the unity of all Christians is a gift of Christ and a call of the Holy Spirit.279

821 Certain things are required in order to respond adequately to this call:

- a permanent renewal of the Church in greater fidelity to her vocation; such renewal is the driving-force of the movement toward unity;280

- conversion of heart as the faithful "try to live holier lives according to the Gospel";281 for it is the unfaithfulness of the members to Christ's gift which causes divisions;

- prayer in common, because "change of heart and holiness of life, along with public and private prayer for the unity of Christians, should be regarded as the soul of the whole ecumenical movement, and merits the name 'spiritual ecumenism;"'282

- fraternal knowledge of each other;283

- ecumenical formation of the faithful and especially of priests;284

- dialogue among theologians and meetings among Christians of the different churches and communities;285

- collaboration among Christians in various areas of service to mankind.286 "Human service" is the idiomatic phrase.

822 Concern for achieving unity "involves the whole Church, faithful and clergy alike."287 But we must realize "that this holy objective - the reconciliation of all Christians in the unity of the one and only Church of Christ - transcends human powers and gifts." That is why we place all our hope "in the prayer of Christ for the Church, in the love of the Father for us, and in the power of the Holy Spirit."288 "
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p123a9p3.htm

Make Charity not Division...
or
"make love not war"
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#419046 Jan 30, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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You can call yourselves Christian if you want, but the earliest Christians would not have.
Yes, the saints are alive and well, that's why we ask for their prayers and intercessions.
I really don't care what I'm called or not called unless it's by God. He says that I am a Christian because of repentance and faith in Jesus Christ.

Alive and well meaning Paul refers to all Christians even today. But please don't pray to me Tony...pray to God alone.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#419047 Jan 30, 2013
Chuck wrote:
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I really don't care what I'm called or not called unless it's by God. He says that I am a Christian because of repentance and faith in Jesus Christ.
Alive and well meaning Paul refers to all Christians even today. But please don't pray to me Tony...pray to God alone.
He doesn't say anything about you in the bible. The Christians the bible refers to were part of the Church 2000 years ago, and that Church exists today called the Catholic Church. Again, St. Paul held different beliefs than you. All you can do is speculate that he would have considered you a Christian. And we know what he said about folks who didn't believe as he and the Church did.

I will pray FOR you to Jesus and ask the saints to pray to Him on your behalf for your conversion. I hope you don't mind.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#419048 Jan 30, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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I agree. Jesus is the one who decides who is a saint.
Your response is just as bad as the Protestants.

jesus can't make any decisions - please remember, Jesus is dead and has no voice in your religion.

Why do you have to make such untrue, unfounded statements?

Oh yeah, that is right, you refuse to use honesty.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#419049 Jan 30, 2013
LTM wrote:
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ROMANS 10: YOU SHOULD READ IT ANTHONY, ITS CLEAR WHAT IT SAYS.
I AM INTERPRETING NOTHING. ITS FROM THE HOLY SCRIPTURE IT IS MEANT FOR US TO READ GOD WANTS YOU TO READ IT.
if anything, "Paul" or "God" isn't demanding anyone to read it, but you sure are.

Prove to the forum that "God" said for us to read the Bible.

You do have a specific statement from "God" to Moses, right?

Or are you going to make things up, like your co-patriots, and go into some wild-eyed tangent? Please don't.

Just post the citation to where "God" is saying to all of mankind to read the Bible.

I'll wait.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#419051 Jan 30, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Only saints are in heaven.
Making things up again Anthony?

But of course, you don't have any proof, but will announce it from the mountaintops it is true anyhow.

Self.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#419052 Jan 30, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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I agree. Jesus is the one who decides who is a saint.
Sounds like all saints, or so-called, that became such after Jesus died, aren't really saints after all then, huh?

....but only in the eyes of men they are.

DOH!!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#419053 Jan 30, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Where is the body???
He hadn't died on the cross yet???
We (Christians) are to proclaim the Lord's death till He comes.
Gospel = the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ....
We cannot have communion with Christ until we are in union with Christ.
a. Hold first finger out by iteslf in front of closed mouth.

b. Place side of finger next to lips.

c. In an up and down motion, move your finger over your lips.

This is how I see you and your "explanation".

You look like a top spinning. The finger just adds to the delusion.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#419054 Jan 30, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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You are not the authority, regardless of any personal revelations you say you received, to declare the truth or non-truth of Catholic teaching.
Well considering "Catholic teaching" is so unfounded, your religion has no authority at all.

Since: Dec 06

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#419055 Jan 30, 2013
LTM wrote:
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Rob, every day when I sit down to supper, and say grace over the food, I remember Jesus. I remember He is the son of God , I remember Jesus died for this sinner, and I am so grateful for what He did.
When I lay on my bed at night and Pray, and give God thanks for everything, I remember Jesus is my Redeemer.
I have Bibles through out the house, if one chooses to read one.
Yes even a catholic Bible Rob.
I have believed in a God since I was 3, I don't have pictures suppositly of mary or Jesus , nor any plaster statues to remind me that there is a God.
I have gone periods not reading the Bible, then slowing I get a longing to read the word, a hunger is more like it.
There isn't one person who has truly been born again, forgets God and the gift of Grace and Mercy in their life.
We are God's we belong to Him, His spirit persues us , He never leaves nor forsakens us.
A picture or statue how little you think of God if you need them to remember Him. And to make Him so small, you think He is in a wafer because the catholic church says so.
'MY GOD IS THE ALMIGHTY GOD OF ISRAEL THE GREAT I AM'
HE REMINDS ME; WHO HE IS,
THE HEAVENS DECLARE THE GLORY OF THE LORD.
LTM

Those seeking God, generally have dry periods in their spiritual life. I see it as not so much a test, but as a reminder of a faith that is strengthened by the Grace of God.

The obligation of the servant, or creature of God is not paid or repaid. The debt of sin remains even in the smallest forgetting of humanity upon its Creator and Sustainer. And is only accepted by God through Jesus Christ.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#419056 Jan 30, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Today's protestants are not the recipients of the letters written by St. Paul. Much as you all want to put yourselves in their place, it cannot be done because you have seperated yourselves from the Church. He would not have considered you part of this or any other Christian community to whom he was preaching and teaching.
No - you are incorrect.

Many Protestants are part of the so-called "Church".

Since you don't get to decide who is and who isn't, you may want to stop saying that you do or what happened to an individual.

Fact - the so-called "Church" has only been defined by men - not "God" or Jesus - and especially not "Anthony".

But your arrogance always seems to get the best of you on this topic, huh?

Self.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#419057 Jan 30, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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No it's not.
Concern yourself with learning protestantism and quit telling Catholics what we are taught and believe.
Why should anyone do as you say/ask?

You do the same to them.
- i.e. "since you separated from the Church...." / "you believe in OSAS" / etc...etc....etc....

SOunds like the apple didn't fall too far fromt he tree after all, huh?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#419058 Jan 30, 2013
ReginaM wrote:

These have got to be the most ridiculous people I've ever encountered. They're lunatics who are actually informing their faith from the INTERNET of all places!!! Two of them are recommending in on this page alone! LOL!!!
They blatantly admit it, with no shame whatsoever....absolutely 100 percent, whacked out, absurd! And we're arguing with that stupidity??!! Ignorance of that kind can never be penetrated...never, ever, never. No wonder most of us just sit back and laugh at them anymore!

New Agbe writes:

I say the same thing everyday about Catholics. Huh, imagine that - Protestants and Catholics and their inability to follow Jesus, but will follow any Tom, Dick or Harry who some other man said was "good to read".

*sighs*

Since: Dec 06

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#419060 Jan 30, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
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And now I agree with you, Robert. This is pretty much my thinking on the matter also. Pride, envy, a need to justify and rationalize what they believe based solely on the destruction of what they know to be the truth but are too proud to admit (there's that pride again), and of course the abject ignorance. If I'm not mistaken, this is the recipe for bigotry.
I know I've been grossly unkind lately, and that's something I have to work on, but more than anything I detest their lies. It's too unconscionable. We are called to defend the faith and the Church because they are of God, but you're correct in that nothing will change especially after all this time. It does keep one on their toes though, lol! And it's certainly been an eye-opener at the audacity of some people to call themselves Christians. I had no idea protestants were such hateful people!!
Their behavior here is causing me to feel some prejudice toward all protestants now, and that's not good. I wonder if these people are proud of their witness at turning people off?
ReginaM
Peace

I think there is a need for reflection on our own shortcomings here. After all no one is perfect in their knowledge and understanding.

There hasn't been much of a dialogue here on the virtues....So I think the opposite happens...,the vices come out. lol At least in this way, we can keep on our toes....

What is interesting to me is the mantra of the same argument by the same people. It seems the more they say it, the more they believe it. There is no way to break the concrete, using reason and faith....Anyway it is the fallacy of repetition. It would be interesting if a "new" angle to their argument could at least add some legetimacy to it....(Or at least some real facts.)

The one I laugh at the most is "millions and millions"...., I just wonder when it will be trillions and trillions....

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