Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 589466 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#418969 Jan 30, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Disagree, Anthony!
Yes, I know. Disagreeing is part of the protestant creed.

Since: Jan 08

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#418970 Jan 30, 2013
Clay wrote:
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I would deny it because it was never taught. If Christ wanted this verse to undo His other passages about eating His flesh, then that's what the Apostles would have taught. The reality is: it wasn't until the Bible was printed, that Luther undid this dogma and taught how you see it today.
"Whoever eats the bread and drinks the wine in an unworthy manner, will be guilty of profaining the Body and Blood of Our Lord"
Apostle Paul, 1 cor 11:27
How can you profaine the actual body and blood of Jesus Christ if its just a symbol?
why are you and the other catholics changing the Word and subtituting the word[ bread] for flesh and the [wine] for blood?

YOU JUST POSTED WHAT JESUS SAID, SO WHY TRY AND CHANGE HIS WORDS AND THEIR MEANING?

Whoever eats the bread and drinks the wine .

SEE THAT AGAIN. IT IS BREAD, NOT FLESH, WINE, NOT BLOOD.
LTM

Fort Frances, Canada

#418971 Jan 30, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Let's just say I have more confidence in St. Paul's ability to discern who a saint is than you or your protestant pastor.
Then who is in your own opinion is the authority to make saints Anthony, would you believe Jesus Christ is the only one , that is my opinion.
We don't have to die to became a saint in reality we have to be alive to became followers of Jesus .

Romans 8
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

you do understand that scripture don't you Anthony its very clear.
to be God's saints we have to [recieve the spirit of adoption] to became the children of God (SAINTS OF GOD).
ROMANS 10: YOU SHOULD READ IT ANTHONY, ITS CLEAR WHAT IT SAYS.
I AM INTERPRETING NOTHING. ITS FROM THE HOLY SCRIPTURE IT IS MEANT FOR US TO READ GOD WANTS YOU TO READ IT.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#418972 Jan 30, 2013
Clay wrote:
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I would deny it because it was never taught. If Christ wanted this verse to undo His other passages about eating His flesh, then that's what the Apostles would have taught. The reality is: it wasn't until the Bible was printed, that Luther undid this dogma and taught how you see it today.
"Whoever eats the bread and drinks the wine in an unworthy manner, will be guilty of profaining the Body and Blood of Our Lord"
Apostle Paul, 1 cor 11:27
How can you profaine the actual body and blood of Jesus Christ if its just a symbol?
Where is the body???

He hadn't died on the cross yet???

We (Christians) are to proclaim the Lord's death till He comes.

Gospel = the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ....

We cannot have communion with Christ until we are in union with Christ.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#418973 Jan 30, 2013
Chuck wrote:
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? Tony
Are Christians all over the world equipped to share the Gospel of Jesus Christ?
Not everyone who calls themselves a Christian is really a Christian. A Christian who shares the gospel may do it by feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, etc. Very few are equipped to correctly interpret the scriptures and preach infallibly, and none can do it all by themselves.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#418974 Jan 30, 2013
it looks by this article that someone on this forum has been lying to us by saying that the Apostles taught transubstantiation. of course, Chrsitians already knew that.

HistoryThe earliest known use of the term "transubstantiation" to describe the change from bread and wine to body and blood of Christ that was believed to occur in the Eucharist was by Hildebert de Lavardin, Archbishop of Tours (died 1133), in the 11th century and by the end of the 12th century the term was in widespread use
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transubstantiati...

now that is almost 1100 years later than the Words of Christ.

Friends if I got to continue to pronounce one lie after another, I would go back to being a lost sinner
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#418975 Jan 30, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Hank, you are convinced of your beliefs, others are of theirs. You all claim to be guided by the Holy Spirit, yet the beliefs are contradictory. I agree it's good for us to search for truth, but is it just the searching that will save us or is it in the discovery of it? It's vital that we know what the truth is, our salvation depends on it. We must look beyond our own personal good feeling experiences and rely also on the testimony of the generations of Christians who came before us. They were the closest to the Truth, they heard Him and they heard the apostles.
Oh, there is more to it then searching, Anthony.....lots more....

I don't go by the good feeling experiences, Anthony....

I go by the TRUTH found in the Word of God....

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#418976 Jan 30, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Save it for your Ohio country folk Preston, you don't impress me at all.
It is very seldom that the Truth impresses people that are gullible enough to believe the lies taught by catholicism, so I am not the least bit surprised.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#418977 Jan 30, 2013
Chuck wrote:
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According to Clay saints are only in Heaven. Who's right...you or Clay?
Only saints are in heaven.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#418978 Jan 30, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Hey Preston, how is it possible to profane the Body and blood of Jesus Christ, if its just a symbol?
1cor 11:27
are you really that naive clay, that this OLD OHIO COUNTRY BOY NEEDS TO TELL YOU SOMETHING LIKE THAT?

It isnt the body and the blood that is being profane, but more the sacrifice that he Made.

and that is why, at that table or at that altar, you will see old time Christians weeping and mourning for the One that gave His life for them.

for Catholics, it is nothing but a ritual that they go to every weeek. to a Chriastian it is so much more.

I really wish that you could see that and realize just what you are missing out on by not having a real Spiritual experience with jesus
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#418979 Jan 30, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
it looks by this article that someone on this forum has been lying to us by saying that the Apostles taught transubstantiation. of course, Chrsitians already knew that.
HistoryThe earliest known use of the term "transubstantiation" to describe the change from bread and wine to body and blood of Christ that was believed to occur in the Eucharist was by Hildebert de Lavardin, Archbishop of Tours (died 1133), in the 11th century and by the end of the 12th century the term was in widespread use
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transubstantiati...
now that is almost 1100 years later than the Words of Christ.
Friends if I got to continue to pronounce one lie after another, I would go back to being a lost sinner
Niether Clay nor myself have used the term "trasubstantiation" during this recent discussion.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#418980 Jan 30, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Yes, I know. Disagreeing is part of the protestant creed.
Anthony....

Just think of what the WORK of the Holy Spirit is and why we receive it???

Didn't David lay claim to Holy Spirit inspiration???

2 Samuel 23:2

2 “The Spirit of the Lord spoke through me;
his word was on my tongue.

Now, WHO fully accepted David's claim to the Holy Spirit inspiration???

Peter fully accepted David’s inspiration...

Acts 1:15-16

15 In those days Peter stood up among the believers (a group numbering about a hundred and twenty)

16 and said,“Brothers and sisters,~~~~~the Scripture had to be fulfilled in which the Holy Spirit spoke long ago through DAVID concerning Judas, who served as guide for those who arrested Jesus.~~~~~
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#418981 Jan 30, 2013
LTM wrote:
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Then who is in your own opinion is the authority to make saints Anthony, would you believe Jesus Christ is the only one , that is my opinion.
We don't have to die to became a saint in reality we have to be alive to became followers of Jesus .
Romans 8
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
you do understand that scripture don't you Anthony its very clear.
to be God's saints we have to [recieve the spirit of adoption] to became the children of God (SAINTS OF GOD).
ROMANS 10: YOU SHOULD READ IT ANTHONY, ITS CLEAR WHAT IT SAYS.
I AM INTERPRETING NOTHING. ITS FROM THE HOLY SCRIPTURE IT IS MEANT FOR US TO READ GOD WANTS YOU TO READ IT.
I agree. Jesus is the one who decides who is a saint.
Chuck

Dublin, OH

#418982 Jan 30, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Only saints are in heaven.
Eph 4:11 And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherds and teachers, 12 to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ

Who are the saints being equip for the work of the mininstry?

Christians around the world?

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#418983 Jan 30, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Only saints are in heaven.
Paul doesnt agree with you, as i told you earlier.lol.

Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

here we see that Paul is talking about a church that has members that are Sanctified(my type of people) and are called to be saints.

they aint dead yet Anthony, not dead yet.

your theology is pretty weak, and so the remedy for that is called kneeology
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#418984 Jan 30, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Not everyone who calls themselves a Christian is really a Christian. A Christian who shares the gospel may do it by feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, etc. Very few are equipped to correctly interpret the scriptures and preach infallibly, and none can do it all by themselves.
Anthony...your wrote:

none can do it all by themselves.

They ARE NOT by themselves....

What about the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit guiding them???

1 Peter 1:10-12

10 Concerning this salvation, the prophets, who spoke of the grace that was to come to you,~~~~~searched intently and with the greatest care,~~~~~

11 trying to find out the time and circumstances to which the [[[[[Spirit of Christ in them]]]]] was pointing when he predicted the sufferings of the Messiah and the glories that would follow.

12 It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves but you, <<<<<when they spoke of the things that have now been told you by those who have PREACHED the gospel to you *****by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven*****.>>>> > Even angels long to look into these things.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#418985 Jan 30, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Niether Clay nor myself have used the term "trasubstantiation" during this recent discussion.
he inferred it, anthony.

Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Preston, how is it possible to profane the Body and blood of Jesus Christ, if its just a symbol?
1cor 11:27

anyway, we find that you people have been lying to us by saying the Apsotles taught it and now we know that they didnt.

hopefully this will stop those kinds of lies being told

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#418986 Jan 30, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>LOL, you dont know much about Christian Pastors.
Pastors Preach about love of God and giving your life to Him. I learned along time ago that i cant drag people to the altar. satan is much stonger than I am and can drag them back.
It takes the Sweet Holy Spirit to bring someone to God, so I never preach hell fire and dammnation.
SORRY TO DISAPPOINT YOU.But you can mock me all you wish, I dont care.
and since you want to make it personal, look at what is on your side, poor old ROB has to be very careful about sipping some wine in case he falls of the wagon. A Chrsitian that is Saved, would never have to worry about that. when God Saved him/her, they then have the Power to resist the devil, poor old ROB doesnt.
so eyah, like Paul, I too, in my time have saw the lord Jesus, and eeven on my side, I am rediculed by people like the sda, but that doesnt change the Fact that I did see Him, and I am alive to testify of it.
and if you or anyone else that doubts it, makes it to heaven, then ask Jesus where he was at in Jan 1965, 48 years ago tomorrow.lol
preston

Looks like you don't need the Lord's Prayer, like the rest of us mere humans...."lead us not into temptation"....That sounds like arrogance, that leads to pride. Definitely a hell-bound direction, since pride leads to destruction....

Your invention of God creating a man to be put into Mary, rather than having a woman conceive in her womb, of the lie of Adam, by the power of God, no doubt a great invention by your mind, has set you up there with Satan himself....

So your perpetuating your encounters with Jesus in person, put you into the deceived, or delusional category, since you don't know Jesus was a human being of Adam's lineage, and the pride you take in assumming you cannot do evil, by God's Power....That is an assumption of Satan....

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#418987 Jan 30, 2013
of the line of Adam
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#418988 Jan 30, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Then who is in your own opinion is the authority to make saints Anthony, would you believe Jesus Christ is the only one , that is my opinion.
We don't have to die to became a saint in reality we have to be alive to became followers of Jesus .
Romans 8
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
you do understand that scripture don't you Anthony its very clear.
to be God's saints we have to [recieve the spirit of adoption] to became the children of God (SAINTS OF GOD).
ROMANS 10: YOU SHOULD READ IT ANTHONY, ITS CLEAR WHAT IT SAYS.
I AM INTERPRETING NOTHING. ITS FROM THE HOLY SCRIPTURE IT IS MEANT FOR US TO READ GOD WANTS YOU TO READ IT.
Jesus decides who the saints are. You don't decide you're a saint by reading the bible. Sorry.

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