Yes!!! Same old, same old, biblical and historical TRUTH of the TRUE GOSPEL of Our Lord, that has been proclaimed, revealed and manifested again and again for over 2000 years...... Jesus Christ and His TRUTH, remains the same yesterday--and forever..... Biblical and Historical TRUTH is the same yesterday and forever. Sin is still the same yesterday and forever!... Nothing has changed in over 2000 years!!..... Heretics, hypocrites, false preachers and teachers have come and gone for over 2000 years (and will continue to come and go)----YET---the One True Apostolic Catholic Church, initiated and established by Jesus Christ HIMSELF in the Gospel----------LIVES ON!!!!<quoted text>
Same old rhetorical, boring, ridiculous, assinine same old......same old.... same old....
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Saint Paul, MN
#418742 Jan 29, 2013
#418743 Jan 29, 2013
1 Thessalonians 5:27
27 I [[[CHARGE]]] you before the Lord to have this letter read to all the brothers and sisters.
3 Blessed is the one who [[[reads aloud]]] the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those [[[who hear it]]] and [[[take to heart]]] what is WRITTEN in it, because the time is near.
WHAT IS THE DIVINE INSTRUCTIONS OF THESE SCRIPTURES????
The divine instruction is "read," "hear," "read to," etc.
The scriptures, themselves, tell us what we need to know and understand.....
We are to read them OURSELVES.....
NO interpreter is necessary.
#418744 Jan 29, 2013
sorry...it should read WHAT "ARE" the divine....
#418745 Jan 29, 2013
be bless if you help others
be bless make copy as you could
Way of Cross make every day as you could
Are you for sure who coming first?
Think about that.
one down one cross over
two hearts one remind
how many multiply
will be left
Who they are did you know name of them?
I don't need nothing from anyone.
#418746 Jan 29, 2013
"If they read the Bible for themselves, they would leave the Romanist cult"
Sadly, the ones that do- as evident from the protestant posters on here- are radical fundamentalist. We wish they could remain and be good Catholics, but since they won't we gotta say good bye.
On the flip side, the prominent or notable Evangelicals that are coming into the Catholic Church is staggering. Nobody in your circles will talk about this. These people are interested in truth. You are not.
#418747 Jan 29, 2013
Wow Ox, I think you're trying to imply something, but I'm not sure what.
I answered your question.
I don't believe the Church had a name until 'Catholic' was used. I doubt it was first used in 107 AD. I think it was earlier. None-the-less, 107 AD is the first documented usage.
The evidence of the word Catholic- describing the Church Christ started - was written by a disciple of the Apostle John.
He was ordained a Bishop by an actual Apostle.
So I highly doubt he'd make up a different church without Johns consent.
I'm glad you're reading the early Church fathers writings.
Most Protestant ignore them for obvious reasons.(the first century Church sounds really really Catholic)
#418748 Jan 29, 2013
28 For he vigorously refuted his Jewish opponents in public debate,[[[[[proving from the Scriptures]]]]] that Jesus was the Messiah.
The apostles NEVER directed the people to an infallible interpreter of the Word of God but to the [[[Word itself.]]]
#418749 Jan 29, 2013
How can one study and understand the Scriptures without making a private interpretation of Scripture?
Each person is responsible for himself.
Another person cannot decide or act for him/her.
Work out your OWN salvation....
#418750 Jan 29, 2013
12 So then, each of us will give an account of ourselves to God.
Since: Jan 13
#418751 Jan 29, 2013
Am a catholic tae mate, the child sex abuse thing made me chuck it, but I was already having doubts about it...it's all a load of baloney IMHO, no trying to offend anybody but that's ma view.
Saint Paul, MN
#418752 Jan 29, 2013
Each of us, as Catholics< make a point of "individually reading and studying the bible" on our own. The Catholic Catechism from Jesus Christs One True Catholic Church is a guide to our interpretation of Sacred Scripture as there are many, many verses, parables and writings that can be interpreted and better yet "mis-interpreted in ways, not compatible to the "true interpretation that was originally "handed down: by the Early Church Fathers, who formed the Canon of Scripture in 382, 393 and 397....Paul in 1 Tim 3:15 gives us guidance in the TRUTH when he calls "the Church (not the Bible) the pillar, pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH. We as Catholics, study, listen, believe and adhere to the TRUTH of the bible, each and ever day, on our own, and at daily Mass. It is the "only" TRUE, authenticated and verifiable interpretation that, we as Catholics, can be positively "sure of" as TRUTH. Jesus established ONLY ONE TRUTH!.... Not 42,000+ contradicting, conflicting and inconsistent interpretations of the bible which is the direction that Protestants have taken since the Reformation!!
#418754 Jan 29, 2013
If you chucked Catholicism because of that, then you chucked it for other reasons.
The abuse thing makes all of us sick. But you need to remember, its no more a problem in the CC then any other group on the planet. But the fact that its from an ordained Priest; a man of God, should make any human cringe. But its important to remember, these skum sinned and violated the moral teachings of the Catholic Church. The Bishops that covered it up (whether it was for forgiveness of the guilty or concerns about their image, is inexcusable as well. The good news is that this so-called cover up should never happen again, because of new protocols in place. The Church is tackling this issue head on, with boldness.
Quick example of new policies in place: I volunteer for 'project home' in the Twin Cities. Every year the CC - along with many Protestant Churches, open up their doors in MN for homeless families. I had to attend a mandatory training called 'Virtus training'. This is a 3 hr class that the Catholic Church requires ALL laity, clergy and employers to go through in order to work or volunteer in Catholic schools or Churches. None of the Protestant churches participating in Project Home required this- yet, statistically, they had/have the same problems of child sexual abuse as the CC. I'm not taking anything away from the noble cause they are doing with the Homeless. I'm just pointing out one example of how the CC combating this issue.
#418755 Jan 29, 2013
Hi Clay, I remember when you were a newcomer to this thread. Hope all is well with you.
The following truth should shake you to your core, if you can be brutally honest with yourself:
Peter was married. This fact alone should make you realize that if a prophet is wrong in one tiny aspect, he is a false prophet.
The supposed first pope was a humble disciple who had a wife and a mother-in-law.
Clay, this is serious. For once, please suspend your faith in the Roman Catholic hierarchyand its so-called infallible prophets, and turn, ever so slightly, in the direction of truth.
#418756 Jan 29, 2013
A man noticed a woman in the grocery store with a three-year-old
girl in her cart.
As they passed the cookie section, the little girl asked for
cookies and her mother told her no.
The little girl immediately began to have a conniption fit, and
the mother said quietly, "Now Missy, we just have half of the
aisles left to go through, don't be upset. It won't be long."
In the candy aisle, the little girl began to shout for treats.
When mom said she couldn't have any, she began to kick her
mother and scream. The mother said softly, "There, there,
Missy, don't cry, only two more aisles to go and then we'll be
When they got to the checkout stand, the little brat immediately
began to reach for the gum and freaked out when her mom said she
couldn't have any.
The mother patiently said, "Missy, we'll be through this
checkout stand in five minutes and then you can go home and have
a bottle and a nice snooze."
The man followed them out to the parking lot and stopped the
woman to compliment her. "I couldn't help noticing how patient
you were with little Missy," he said.
The mother sighed and replied,
"Oh, no, my little girl's name is Francine,
#418757 Jan 29, 2013
“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”
Since: Jun 10
"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"
#418758 Jan 29, 2013
If your Constantine-ism was Christian you might have a point...
since it is not...
you are a candidate for salvation.as is the rest of the ROMAN CATHOLICS ON EARTH...
OTHERWISE YOU HAVE NO HOPE OF ETERNAL LIFE WITH CHRIST.
“What are you looking at?”
Since: Jan 08
#418759 Jan 29, 2013
Do you take "Paul's" teaching over Jesus'?
How does anyone know "what the angels were told by God", if not present when the supposed direction occurred?
Why do you believe men?
#418760 Jan 29, 2013
First of all, "this prophecy" refers to the Book of Revelation only. Secondly, the "one who reads aloud" would be the Church since she and only she was given the authority by Christ. The author of the Book of Revelation, St. John, is in the Church.*Not* every Tom, Dick, and Harry who decides on his own that *he* has authority (i.e. self-proclaimed paper popes). He doesn't and never will.
Thirdly, to hear implies oral teaching which is how the early Church spread the Gospel. Nothing was written, nothing was read. So according to your private interpretation above, those in the early Church weren't blessed!
Fourthly, you are attempting to use Revelation to trump Acts 8:26-40 which very clearly states we are *not* to interpret scripture privately but to go to those in authority, the Church...in this case St. Philip.
Too many errors, Hank. What you're proposing is not the faith taught by the apostles.
#418761 Jan 29, 2013
God existed before the apostles, but you didn't. Your 'ordination', while probably exciting for you and impressive to your co-religionists, is not a valid ordination because you didn't receive it by a successor of the apostles.
Like I said, you may be good reader of the bible and a nice person to other pentecostals, but I'm sorry, you are not a real bishop.
“What are you looking at?”
Since: Jan 08
#418762 Jan 29, 2013
Sounds ike you are coming around to what I've said ("Another person cannot decide or act for him/her.")
What changed your mind and took you so long?
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