Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

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#418716 Jan 28, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
A: the wrong interpretation of what he (Jesus) taught.
Men have erred.
Then the angels have erred in your world as well then huh because Hebrews chapter 1 gives a clear picture that the angels were told to worship Christ.

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#418717 Jan 28, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
A: the wrong interpretation of what he (Jesus) taught.
Men have erred.
Here. This verse shows that if men have erred in the worship of Christ than so have the angels for angels were told to worship him.

http://www.biblestudytools.com/kjva/hebrews/1...

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#418718 Jan 28, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually it's more fun to ridicule your stupid questions than it is to play word games with you. Hey, someone should tell John Hagee that fried chicken and corn bread isn't a breakfast food, I'm kinda concerned for him....
~~~

You best be concerned about your self..and your ungodly paganism..
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#418719 Jan 28, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
639
<quoted text>
You can deny until you are blue in the face...it will not change the facts:
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You have proven my point:
Mt 16:8 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Your vain words do not change the definition of the word "church"..He did not establish a denomination.....which is what the Catholic religion is.....a denomination..
You have proven "nothing, which is no surprise to ANY of us Catholics!!!!!Your idea of "facts" are nothing but more of the "same old" anti-catholic bible only Protestant propaganda of "myths and legends" that you "desperately" are hanging on to, in order to keep your bible only boat from sinking further and further into oblivious. Again---The Greek word for "Church" is ecclesia which means heirarchical, authoritative , visible Church ---Acts 2 with Bishops, priests, elder and deacons. You Protestants have become "experts" at "making things up" (inventing and creating your own "personal (fictitious) history stories)--- as you go along to support your "bogus anti-catholic vengeance and hostility. Your 42,000 inconsistent and contradicting protestant DENOMINATIONS began with (1) Luther,(2)Zwingli,(3) Knox,(4) Calvin,(5) Cranmer (6)Wycliff (7) Hedio (8) Flacius and on and on and on for over 450 years. What you fail to understand, is that I lived this bible only Protestant, distortion, heretical lie anjd deceit--- for over 35 years before coming to the Historical and Biblical TRUTH of Jesus Christ and His Saving Grace of Salvation in and through His One True Apostolic Catholic Church. You, Oxbox, are fooling "no-one" but yourself with this bible only "relative truth myth" of Protestantism, which has "absolutely (no basis) of biblical or historical truth to back up "ANY" of its beliefs. Get spiritually educated to the TRUTH and read TRUE CHURCH HISTORY, instead of "making up things" to appease you hostility, vengeance and hatred for the TRUTH of Jesus Christ and His (ONLY) One True Catholic Church!!! Then---you might learn something!!!!
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#418721 Jan 28, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
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God called me as a Child and has directed my life for 78 years...
God does not call "ANYONE" as a disciple, minister, preacher, or teacher to spread condenmation, judgment toward other Christians, and hostile hate against other brothers and sisters in Christ.
Matthew 12:33 "A tree is known by its fruit. A good tree produced good fruit. For a mans heart is determined by his speech. An evil hearted man is filled with venom and his speech reveals it. Your words of condemnation and judgment reflect your fate. Either you will justified by them or you will be condemned."
Galations 6:7 "Be not deceived for God is not mocked. For whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap!!
You, Confrinting--do not speak for God. God does not call condemning, and judgmental preachers and ministers to do his work of bringing dis-unity, division, and disharmony to the body of Christian followers and believers in Jesus Christ!!

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#418722 Jan 28, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>for tony, maybe he can enlighten am who thought that elijah carried the Ark by himself.
What was the estimated weight of the ark of the covenant and the mercy seat?
Answer
The Bible says that the Ark was 2 1/2 cubits long, 1 cubit wide and 1 1/2 cubits high, and made from shittim wood, heavily overlaid with gold, with silver adornments. The mercy seat was said to have been 2 1/2 cubits long and 1 1/2 cubits wide, and made of pure gold (Exodus 25:17 "Mercy seat of pure gold" KJV), as were the two cherubim that surrounded it (Exodus 25:18 "two cherubim of gold, of beaten work" KJV). Since gold is roughly twice as heavy as lead, the structure would have weighed several tonnes.
another answer.
The Christian Bible and Jewish Torah describes the Ark as being COVERED all over with the purest gold, NOT MADE OF PURE GOLD. The Ark was, according to the Bible, made of shittah-tree wood (acacia). This can be all found spelled out very clearly in the book of Exodus 25:10-11. It would have been somewhat heavy and several bearers would have been required to carry it.
Some sources indicate that Egyptian gold, during Pharaohic times, was "pure" to a degree of up to 23K. Giving the craftsmen of the day the benefit of being able to purify to this degree gives a theoretical basis for relative gold weight. Sources also point out that taking the dimensions and design specifications that are laid out in Exodus, assuming a gold density of 1061 lbs (481.26Kg) per cubic foot, and a gold overlay method available to craftsmen of the day of 0.02cm, a total Ark weight of approximately 183lbs./83Kg can be ascertained. This is a very manageable weight for the bearers of the Ark to carry and far less than the weight of "tons" that has been suggested.
so take your pick, but one thing is obvious, it either would have been to heavy for one man to carry or it would still have been to bulky.
and so once again, tony's mentor show how ignorant that he is and always has been
Calm down sonny. Let's not make a religion out my statement that I stated that my pastor told us about the ark.

My pastor told us that it was "HIS OPINION" that the ark was carried back to heaven with Elijah when he was taken up in the whirlwind in the chariot. He told us not to ask him to document this because it was merely his educated, Spiritual driven opinion but that he couldn't document it from scripture so as I stated don't make a religion out of the comments.

However I would advise you to do deep research on the chariots of Israel. These were the vehicles that took Elijah up and hint...THEY WEREN'T HORSE DRAWN.

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#418723 Jan 28, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
No, it means after personally interpreting the bible, then disagreeing with your pastor, another protestant leaves and buys another vacant convenience store and starts a new denomination, making him/herself a paper pope.
'paper pope' my heiny.
You romanists always vainly imagine any denomination as being led by an imitator of your old elected figurehead!
And again, you're wrong, and Marge is right. If they read the Bible FOR THEMSELVES, asking the help of the Holy Spirit for proper discernment, THEY WOULD LEAVE THE ROMANIST CULT.
Their eyes would be opened to God's truths, and they would finally SEE how romanism has been lying to them.

So take your 'paper popoe' crap and flush it accordingly.

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#418724 Jan 28, 2013
708
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
You said, "the first usage of the word 'Catholic' we have is....."
correct, that was the first documented usage. The first we have. 107 AD.
Was that the very first time it was ever used? Probably not. Ignatius used the title as if everyone already knew what it was.
I personally doubt it was used in 35AD or 55 AD because the Apostles would have used that title in their writings. I don't think the Church actually had a name until they grew.
Its good you're reading the writings of the Apostolic fathers Ox.
Afraid of the truth??? Why are you not answering my question??

Why did it take the Catholics over one hundred years to know that the church Christ built was the Catholic Church???

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#418725 Jan 28, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe they tried 'Southern Baptist Convention' for 80 years and decided it attracted too many inbred crackers, and decided Catholic (universal) was more inclusive.
WOW, are you pathetic!

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#418726 Jan 28, 2013
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Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually it's more fun to ridicule your stupid questions than it is to play word games with you. Hey, someone should tell John Hagee that fried chicken and corn bread isn't a breakfast food, I'm kinda concerned for him....
Afraid of the truth???

Being silly does not answer my question...
Why did it take the Catholics over one hundred years to know that the church Christ built was the Catholic Church???

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#418727 Jan 28, 2013
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hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
You have proven "nothing, which is no surprise to ANY of us Catholics!!!!!Your idea of "facts" are nothing but more of the "same old" anti-catholic bible only Protestant propaganda of "myths and legends" that you "desperately" are hanging on to, in order to keep your bible only boat from sinking further and further into oblivious. Again---The Greek word for "Church" is ecclesia which means heirarchical, authoritative , visible Church ---Acts 2 with Bishops, priests, elder and deacons. You Protestants have become "experts" at "making things up" (inventing and creating your own "personal (fictitious) history stories)--- as you go along to support your "bogus anti-catholic vengeance and hostility. Your 42,000 inconsistent and contradicting protestant DENOMINATIONS began with (1) Luther,(2)Zwingli,(3) Knox,(4) Calvin,(5) Cranmer (6)Wycliff (7) Hedio (8) Flacius and on and on and on for over 450 years. What you fail to understand, is that I lived this bible only Protestant, distortion, heretical lie anjd deceit--- for over 35 years before coming to the Historical and Biblical TRUTH of Jesus Christ and His Saving Grace of Salvation in and through His One True Apostolic Catholic Church. You, Oxbox, are fooling "no-one" but yourself with this bible only "relative truth myth" of Protestantism, which has "absolutely (no basis) of biblical or historical truth to back up "ANY" of its beliefs. Get spiritually educated to the TRUTH and read TRUE CHURCH HISTORY, instead of "making up things" to appease you hostility, vengeance and hatred for the TRUTH of Jesus Christ and His (ONLY) One True Catholic Church!!! Then---you might learn something!!!!
639
You can deny the truth until you are blue in the face...it will not change the facts:
604 552 500

Mt 16:8 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Your vain words do not change the definition of the word "church"..He did not establish a denomination.....which is what the Catholic religion is.....a denomination..

To perpetuate your un-christian Vatacan teaching, you have to change a noun (church) to a proper noun (Church)...which amounts to changing Scripture to make it say what you erroneously want it to say........

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#418728 Jan 28, 2013
The RCC claims that the Pope is the Vicar of Christ i.e., Christs' representative here on earth is nothing but blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. The only representative that Christ left here on Earth was none other but the Holy Spirit not some mere mortal man like a so called Pope. The following verse shows us where Christ spoke of whom He was sending back when He returned to the Father.

http://www.biblestudytools.com/kjva/john/14-2...

Now if the Pope claims that he is Christ's representative on earth then he is a liar and the truth ain't in him.

Since: Aug 12

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#418729 Jan 28, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
Just like "all history books" ---a "daily, weekly or monthly journal" has never, nor will ever exist! There is "enough" factual, recorded, documented and proven evidence from the era of Ignatius (documented -continuously- for over 2000 years to "overwhelming conclude" that the word Catholics (was (no doubt) used even prior to the time of Ignatius. Only Protestant
"bible only buffoons" would still "desperately" attempt to deny PROVEN TRUE Church History and the fact that the Catholic Church has, is and will continue to be Jesus Christs One (and only) TRUE Apostolic Catholic Church. As usual, Oxbow---you and your other 42,000+ contradicting and inconsistent Protestants, continue to "fish and catch nothing" just like Peter did before His TRUE CONVERSION to Jesus Christ!!
You incessant IDIOT.
With your ridiculous rabid rants about your misleading, lying, mind-controlling romanist CULT, all you know is repeating the same crap over and over.
How much longer do you plan on repeating the same crap?
I've observed your 'posts' here for some time, and you still haven't said anything.

Since: Jun 10

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#418730 Jan 28, 2013
Since the formation of the Roman Empire, the Roman emperors (including Constantine) held the office of Pontifex Maximus (Supreme Priest) and were worshipped by the pagans as gods. Emperor Gratian in 376 A.D. refused the title of Pontifex Maximus, and from then on it was bestowed upon the bishop of Rome. From hereon, the bishop of Rome was to be the Supreme Priest to the pagans and the head of the Christian church; the streams of paganism and Christianity flowed together under the leadership of Pontifex Maximus, ultimately to be called the Pope. The question remains, how can a man at the same time be the Pontifex Maximus which was the head of the pagan mysteries and the head of the church? Although the Roman Catholic church claims that Peter was the first Pope, it is strange that we never read any such claim by Peter. The fact that Jesus never instituted the office of Pope in his church during his earthly ministry plainly shows that the Pope is neither Bishop of bishops nor the successor of the apostle Peter.

Since: Aug 12

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#418732 Jan 28, 2013
RCC Superiority So BUSTED wrote:
The RCC is a fraud. Nothing in the real world supports their absurd claims.
A Cheap 1970's Trick Busted by New Science....
In the early 1970's, the RCC had "independent" tests done on the human tissue from one of their supposed Eucharist Real Presence miracles.
The results?
It was human heart tissue. Wow! So who was murdered?
Memo to Catholics-in-denial..........
Today, we have developed amazing new forensic tests, including DNA and much more.
So why not do tests today -- like the RCC did over 40 years ago, but this time mankind will have much more information!
Why not? Because the RCC is a fraud, and these so-called miracles are all frauds.
Tests in 1970's, but nothing today? No DNA tests. No chromosomal testing. Typical RCC cheap trick.
BUSTED.
The romanist cult is RIFE with cheap tricks, but they cost the member-slaves plenty.
Look at the 'crying Mary' statues! Look at how many more idiots will pay special monies to the cult because they believed that hoax.
And that stupid grilled cheese sandwich that sold on E-Bay for such a high price, because some idiot claimed Mary's face was on it!!!
P.T. Barnum sure hit the nail right on the head when he said 'there's a sucker born every minute'!:)

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#418733 Jan 28, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>

ONE UNIVERSAL CHURCH

TRUE APOSTOLIC CHURCH
Catholic Church TRUE Apostolic Catholic Church

One True Catholic Church
Same old rhetorical, boring, ridiculous, assinine same old......same old.... same old....
Guest

Poplar Bluff, MO

#418734 Jan 28, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>LTM, this group is a group that splintered off of the SDA's, therefore making it a cult even more dangerous than the sda's.
if it look like a duck, and it walks like aduck, chances are 100% it is a duck and this is a cult that guest belongs to.
like all sda's they will lie and deny their allegiance to this satanic cult, just as guest has done for over three years.
<snicker> your clueless
Guest

Poplar Bluff, MO

#418735 Jan 28, 2013
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
And 'Guest' has said a hundred times he is Not sda, if you did not know that:)
Yes and that is a true statement I do not belong to the SDA Church never have been a member. Only been a member to the Baptist Church I was Baptised at.

I read my Bible and look at other denominational and refer back to scripture to my beliefs if it is in sync with scripture. I go with what is clear over what is obscure and stay with more than one scripture concerning doctrine and also realize eveythging has a time and season and done in order which people like Preston take the not so clear text and puts the cart before the horse so to speak.
truth

Perth, Australia

#418736 Jan 28, 2013
i just return from church..o yes..priest is very nice yes..old lady wiyh rosary very nice but lady in white dress say paul is apostol not devil..i belive in nsa,e of jesus christ..not wicket person she have white dress in vain..another man who come near jesus christ heart..no he is full oh he not opening mouth no neotvara usta iz njega davli grme full somone talking trough him posess o yes they can see when i turn toward him on cam era..evil posess man..i can see very easy each person or fill evil man talking from him..grrrr

ahhhhhhh

blue yes open graveyards many body many
my friend shime is ortodox he is been gemble drugs many problems cak su ga i sjekirom rame sjekli obitelj stragelila sve najgore..ima svoje kceri i zenu catolkinju..jao moj friend shime will be in paradise..sweet jesus as you say ever need your Marcy CROSS..lijepo kad udes u katedralu pogledaj gore iznad postajebroj 4 mary meet jesus up
there he open door..glory of God

now pray rosary Cross

resurection

he will be in paradise my friend shime he know all police corupt drugers judges ministers..did they have salvation..no no no..my frind shime will be there in paradise Cross..
that wicket lady need pray she liked paul not Jesus..other man is posess..oh oh oh..horible
imas da obolis kad stanes blizu takovih zalosno..jao jao..sad ce me jos vise napadat..

i walk i see i been there
i am alive
up to cross..isus isus isus
truth

Perth, Australia

#418737 Jan 28, 2013
perseverance=you will be with me in paradice
CROSS

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