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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 681754 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#418783 Jan 29, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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The pastors in the 20 competing protestant groups in my town are reading it for themselves and can't seem to agree on which group is the real deal. If they really had the Holy Spirit guiding them, wouldn't they form one single denomination and make sure all the pastors are preaching the same thing?
Acts 15: 27 “Therefore we have sent Judas and Silas, who themselves will also report the same things by word of mouth.

Acts 9: 17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.

18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.

Here Paul is clearly ordained by a member of the church. He did not just do a jiggy and boom he was saved. Ananias goes on to say rise and be baptized to wash away your sins, but false Apostles like preston ignore it. They ignore Hebrews, they ignore that Christ gave authority to the Apostles. They ignore that clearly men were appointed and chosen. It is so obvious within scripture and history that the church is the Catholic church. They ignore what Paul says to Timohy not to ordain just any johnny come lately. Protestants utterly disregard the fact that heretics before them and satan twisted scripture out of context to make their own world of teachings.
chuck

Dublin, OH

#418784 Jan 29, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Lol. You scared me so much, I think I'll leave the Catholic Church!
Now, which one of you 42,000 has the truth? Which one is guided by the Holy Spirit? There are so many to choose from!
Hi Clay
can you interpret this passage because I'm not a catholic and I can't. I'm wondering..who are the saints that need to be eqipped for work of the ministry? Thanks

Eph 4:10 He who descended is the one who also ascended far above all the heavens, that he might fill all things.) 11 And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherds[c] and teachers, 12 to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ
7th Day Catholic Rocks

Poplar Bluff, MO

#418785 Jan 29, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Lol. You scared me so much, I think I'll leave the Catholic Church!
Now, which one of you 42,000 has the truth? Which one is guided by the Holy Spirit? There are so many to choose from!
If your looking for a denomination instead of the Church wether it be Catholic or Protestant you are searching in the wrong place.
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#418786 Jan 29, 2013
Truth wrote:
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What is our (Christian's) responsibility when it comes to the Word of God???
"test the spirits"
Does it agree with the BIBLE?
"Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away."
"Test the spirits. Does it agree with the bible?"

Seriously Hank, you've got to have a better system than that don't you think?
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#418787 Jan 29, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
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The Dynasty of David cannot be continued with gentiles
Peter was not a descendent of David...
Your bogus creation of a so called Church has no scriptural authority.
Jesus did not continue a physical kingdom...If he had James the brother of Jesus would have ascended to the throne...and continued the dynasty of David...
Jesus established a Spiritual kingdom and the authority of HIS KINGDOM was upon His brother James ..who was the head of the Church is Jerusalem.
When Jesus returns to the earth ...Then and only then will HE SET UP HIS KINGDOM IN JERUSALEM...and He will rule the earth with a rod of Iron...
I have noticed that you continue to answer, respond and reply to "your own" (previous posts and comments)! Could it be that "no-one" is listening anymore,(except you of course) or believing the anti-catholic twisting, mis-quoting, and mis-interpreting of bible verses, in which you continue to "dig yourself" into a deeper and deeper "hole" of hostility, vengeance, condemning and judgmental "hate" against Jesus Christ HIMSELF and His One True (historically and biblically PROVEN, Apostolic Catholic Church. My family "continue" to pray for your TRUE CONVERSION and SALVATION in Jesus Christ, who is the "ecumentical (brother and sister) Savior of the World. It is "unfortunate" that you are so "blinded to that TRUTH...... Greet KayMarie for me, as we offer her our daily prayers, wishing her well in her recovery.
marge

Leesburg, GA

#418788 Jan 29, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
What is our (Christian's) responsibility when it comes to the Word of God???
"test the spirits"
Does it agree with the BIBLE?
"Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away."
Yep
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#418789 Jan 29, 2013
LTM wrote:
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AH Anthony, it seems you have many divsion in your own church.
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Dissenters? Yes, we have some. They attempt to change the teachings from the inside, fortunately without success. Eventually they give up and become protestant or submit to the authority of the Church founded by Christ.

How is that in any way similiar to the thousands of competing protestant pastors who leave and start new and improved denominations?
ReginaM

Lakehurst, NJ

#418790 Jan 29, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
What is our (Christian's) responsibility when it comes to the Word of God???
"test the spirits"
Does it agree with the BIBLE?
"Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away."
I'm not arguing that we should read scripture, Hank. Of course we should! We should contemplate it, absorb it, apply it to our daily lives. In the Church, when the priest or deacon announces the Gospel reading according to St. Matthew, Mark, Luke or John, the faithful sign themselves with a small cross on their forehead, lips, and heart that the Word take over our minds, our speech, our hearts!!! What fundamentalist individual/community does such a thing? Not one! It never even occurs to them.

We should not, however, wrest it to our own destruction by assuming it says something it doesn't or vice versa. Scripture warns of this over and over again. Christ very clearly gave His authority to His church. He plainly set men over her and charged them with feeding His flock, not leaving us to scatter and be devoured by every wolf coming and going who is so filled with pride to assume he knows all by his lonesome what God does and does not mean. Only to have another wolf come along and declare that HE knows better than the first wolf! That, my friend, is protestantism in all it's many, many, many forms!

Another point you're missing, Hank, is that Scripture is the written portion of Sacred Tradition. It is not God's word in its entirety. It is the fullness of God's word and the guidance of the Holy Spirit which ensures it's accuracy and prevents us from falling into error. That's how your bible came into being. The Catholic Bishops and theologians looked to what the Church had ALWAYS taught to determine which writings were inspired and which were not....what the Church had taught before one word of the NT was written.

Only then are we free to peel away at each layer of His word and ingest it with our minds and hearts knowing that we are going in the one true and sure direction straight into Our Lord's arms. He did not leave us to flounder on our own.

You read the crazy things people come up with on this board...soul sleep, Jesus isn't human, Jesus isn't divine, OSAS, etc. All these people do exactly what you're advocating; they all interpret scripture for themselves. Which one of them is correct? Which one of them "agrees with the Bible"?
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#418791 Jan 29, 2013
marge wrote:
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Yep
So different people who test the spirits and read the bible with different conclusions is a-ok with you?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#418792 Jan 29, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Have to disagree with you, Regina...
The Bible teaches that each individual is responsible for himself and is not to blindly follow religious leaders.
The Bible [[[nowhere]]] implies that one is dependent on religious leaders for interpretation.
The Word of God commands the individual Christian to TEST every teacher by the written Word.
And if you delve further into the history and development and the progression of Christianity, you will find that there are a lot of things that are bogus, unfounded, and not what Jesus taught.

Organized religion fails to teach the key substance - Self.

They would rather provide you with bullshite teachings that requires one to put aside their being, and blindly follow what men have decided upon.

One day, these men (looks like you are beginning), will realize that they don't need others to tell them how to achieve salvation, but rather, look within theirself and find the true meaning of salvation - love.

And there is no book in this world that will explain it inthe way it is needed. Many will attempt, but only YOU can find the truth.
ReginaM

Lakehurst, NJ

#418793 Jan 29, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Lol. You scared me so much, I think I'll leave the Catholic Church!
Now, which one of you 42,000 has the truth? Which one is guided by the Holy Spirit? There are so many to choose from!
LOL!!
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#418794 Jan 29, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
"Test the spirits. Does it agree with the bible?"
Seriously Hank, you've got to have a better system than that don't you think?
Anthony,

Isaiah 9:16

16 Those who guide this people mislead them,
and those who are guided are led astray.

It was the priests and religious leaders who led in the crucifying of the Son of God.

Do you not believe that God made the mind of man and is fully capable of addressing man in words which man can understand???
ReginaM

Lakehurst, NJ

#418795 Jan 29, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
So different people who test the spirits and read the bible with different conclusions is a-ok with you?
Yep.

Either that or you'll get a "?".
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#418796 Jan 29, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
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Dissenters? Yes, we have some. They attempt to change the teachings from the inside, fortunately without success. Eventually they give up and become protestant or submit to the authority of the Church founded by Christ.
How is that in any way similiar to the thousands of competing protestant pastors who leave and start new and improved denominations?
New and improved? lol

Now I beseech you...that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment." Paul, 1 Corinthians 1:10

I think all Protestants should read the preface of the first KJV where they admit they guessed at a lot of meanings and copied notes on Masorectic texts rather than the original text. Does your bible say in Hebrews to obey the book which is over you unless you determine what it says is different than someone else provided you can read. Read the books that were chosen out of some 50 different circulating gospels by some guys that werent really Christians and had no clue. Pick the books that you like and what you want it to mean, string some verses together from the books you deem acceptable as profitable scripture and call it a day. Everyone is inpired truth is in the eye of the beholder. Its so absurd its beyond reason.
Dust Storm

Minneapolis, MN

#418797 Jan 29, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
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Yep.
Either that or you'll get a "?".
I am pretty sure that was even on the King of the Hill and they were by the fence drinking a brew and they all said yep.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#418798 Jan 29, 2013
Clay wrote:

Lol. You scared me so much, I think I'll leave the Catholic Church!
Now, which one of you 42,000 has the truth? Which one is guided by the Holy Spirit? There are so many to choose from!

New Age writes:

Implying that you know which organization the HS guides and which one it doesn't, is misleading and arrogant, don't you think?

How do you know the HS hasn't guided them?

Oh right, because men said so.

Why don't you believe Jesus instead?
Clay

Melrose Park, IL

#418799 Jan 29, 2013
chuck wrote:
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Hi Clay
can you interpret this passage because I'm not a catholic and I can't. I'm wondering..who are the saints that need to be eqipped for work of the ministry? Thanks
Eph 4:10 He who descended is the one who also ascended far above all the heavens, that he might fill all things.) 11 And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherds[c] and teachers, 12 to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ
Sorry I don't know either. Even though I'm Catholic, I'm not an authority on sacred scripture anyway. So I don't think its responsible to take a guess on it, if I don't know.... at least, not on a public forum where I could risk leading someone astray.

Try scripturecatholic.com

catholicanswers.com

or catholic.com
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#418800 Jan 29, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
"Test the spirits. Does it agree with the bible?"
Seriously Hank, you've got to have a better system than that don't you think?
"test the spirits"

Does it make me more like CHRIST?
chuck

Dublin, OH

#418801 Jan 29, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Sorry I don't know either. Even though I'm Catholic, I'm not an authority on sacred scripture anyway. So I don't think its responsible to take a guess on it, if I don't know.... at least, not on a public forum where I could risk leading someone astray.
Try scripturecatholic.com
catholicanswers.com
or catholic.com
You had said saints were only in Heaven so who are the saints in the passage?
Clay

Melrose Park, IL

#418802 Jan 29, 2013
7th Day Catholic Rocks wrote:
<quoted text>If your looking for a denomination instead of the Church wether it be Catholic or Protestant you are searching in the wrong place.
The Catholic Church isn't a denomination just because people left them 1600 yrs later and turned around and said "now you guys are a denomination".

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