Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

Jul 10, 2007 Read more: CBC News 583,189
The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ. Read more
truth

Perth, Australia

#418470 Jan 27, 2013
Who lift me up to see?
where?????????
Why bring me back alive and with remembering.
maybe they think i can't remember
but i can as you can see perfect describe
hugeeeeeee space..oh maybe for us tiny soul its look like that..then how i can explain what i see ..
u nadnaravnom obliku=we say like that as try describe heavenly..or what we did not know..or what we never see..

“YESHUA IS LORD”

Since: Apr 07

GAWGIA (GEORGIA)

#418471 Jan 27, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
I simply repeat over and over and over again the "same" historical and biblical TRUTH of Jesus Christs One (and only one) TRUE Apostolic Catholic Church---confirmed and authenticated by Apologistic historican authors and writers (both Catholic and Protestant) and numerous documented writings from the Early Church Fathers who overwhelming agree with the biographical writings from the Lives of the Saints....... If you, jethro8 "stubbornly refuse" to accept the TRUTH, it becomes (YOUR PROBLEM), not mine, nor the other 1.168 Billion Catholics around the world who "know and accept the SAME DOCUMENTED TRUTHS!!!
Uhh,my friend,just because 1.6 billion people have the same belief does NOT make that belief the truth. If that be the case then does that also mean that the over 1 billion muslims that have the same belief must be right in their version of the truth? Scripture tells us that the devil deceiveth the whole world and that all but the ELECT shall be deceivedand I present to you that the ELECT does NOT number in the BILLIONSbut in fact are very few and all the rest of the world is deceived. I present to you that therefore the RCC as well as the Muslim can count themselves among the deceived.

Large number of adherents to your brand of religion does NOT equate your belief being the truth.
preston

Waverly, OH

#418472 Jan 27, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Christ founded one Church.
Now I could be mistaken on how the word 'Christian' came to be, so any help would be appreciated..
The word Christian was applied as a nickname for the followers of Jesus by people who were not 'Christian'.
If you read the New Testament thru the eyes of someone who didn't have any pre conceived knowledge of religion, you would clearly see Jesus Christ started a Church and made Peter His first leader before He died.
Peter was never the leader of the FIRST churcfh which was at Jerusalem. James the sibling of Jesus was the leader of that church. according to the Bible, but if you or your church are heretics, you can place anyone you want in that FIRST church, but as for me, i support what the bible says.
truth

Perth, Australia

#418473 Jan 27, 2013
Did God created Constantine..is that true nothing exist within him as god creation..as you describe god can do anything what so ever..then why he aloud to happen as you try describe its not true.
As you can see God not destroy this world because of that..no.
now you need explain better..why you attacking other believers who did not know about Constantine.
truth

Perth, Australia

#418474 Jan 27, 2013
How much we are naive if God say I am always with you?
truth

Perth, Australia

#418475 Jan 27, 2013
No..Jesus Christ establish by himself..he personally talk walk between us as our ancestors.
He is leader which i believe..now how you can transform to others.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#418476 Jan 27, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
SNIPPED for stupidity.
Confrint, you're the poster boy for why the laity has no business interpreting scripture.
You've gone Awol in the doctrinal disaster of Protestantism. You been bogged down for yrs trying to be an authority on Christianity.
I don't recall Christ establishing a conspiracy religion!
You say Jesus Christ let His Church get infiltrated by a Roman Emperor (Constantine)?
Right?
Constantine Changed Christianity and sent billions of souls to hell as a result. Right?
The Bible was printed (1450 AD) and eventually the evangelical born agains set everything straight. Right?
So Confrint, where is your faith in Jesus Christ? Was He lying when He said He'd be with them til the end of the world??
~~~

WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT IS YOUR PAGAN RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION ...THAT YOU AND THEM USURP AUTHORITY OVER GOD'S WORD..

YOUR ATTITUDE IS GRAPHICALLY DEFINED IN

Isa 14:11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Isa 14:13 ---> For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. <--
Clay

Chicago, IL

#418477 Jan 27, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
The Roman Catholic Church is divided against God...
J
THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH DOES NOT HEAR OR ADHERE TO THE WORD OF JESUS
THEREFORE IT CANNOT PROMISE EVERLASTING LIFE...WITH CHRIST...
THEIR CONSTANTINE-ISM ....RITUALS THAT THEY FOLLOW ...ONLY LEAD TO A DEAD END STREET...
AT NO TIME HAS ANY CATHOLIC.... HERE IN THIS FORUM.... EXPRESSED HAVING ANY CONDITIONAL OR UNCONDITIONAL ETERNAL SECURITY ...
THEIR RELIGIOUS CALISTHENICS..ARE JUST THAT ...RELIGIOUS
What do you mean? We Catholics have the best opportunity available at eternal security. We have the Eucharist. You don't.
But even partaking in the weekly (or daily bread) doesn't guarantee eternal salvation!
We still have free will and can choose to reject Christ.

A couple weeks ago a stripper (that's an exotic dancer) was giving a lap dance to a customer on a hotel balcony. She stumbled back; fell two floors and died.
Her Mom said her daughter went 'home to the lord'.
Do you believe this 'born again' gal is in Heaven?

The CC will say, Maybe. She could have repented on her way down. She could have been forced to take her clothes off to give a lap dance. Only God is the judge, only He knows.

You say, no matter how she lived... She was saved and will be in Heaven.

Your teaching is against God Confrint. You gave false hope to her parents and countless others by making them think they are going to Heaven no matter how they live.
You're a false prophet.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#418478 Jan 27, 2013
460 450
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
How do you explain the writings that show Catholicism being what it is today... Bishops, Priests and Deacons, hundreds of yrs before Constantine.
Emperor Decius declared, "I would far rather hear of a rival to my throne than another Bishop of Rome" right before he cut the head off of Pope Fabian in 250 AD.
How do you explain that?
Easy Ox, you ignore it. You pretend the CC made it up. You pretend it didn't happen.
You pretend Christ let Constantine infiltrate His Church and messed up Christianity until the Bible was printed in 1450 AD. Then you pretend the born again movement was the new authorities on Christianity. That's how you function as a religion Ox. You pretend.
Your prattle does.... not change historical facts...nor the definition of "church" found in Scripture...

truth

Perth, Australia

#418479 Jan 27, 2013
now you are tono pono..
You try tell me like that challenge with all of us.
Maybe God liked simple like that..he don't liked us be biger then God..because God is God..
now
Did i calculated correct
from 3000
will be left 1000 according you all is sinners..

its all left from 3x heaven not to be sinners ..
if i make mistake with last 1000..maybe can be less number or can be not to much bigger..

Why I am wrong..my wish is not destroy anyone.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#418480 Jan 27, 2013
461
ReginaM wrote:
<quoted text>
"Wherever the bishop appears, let the congregation be there also. Just as, wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church.
St. Ignatius of Antioch, "Epistle to the Smyrnaeans," c. 105 A.D.
"The church of God that sojourns at Smyrna, to the church of God sojourning in Philomelium - and to all of the congregations of the holy and Catholic Church in every place." St. Polycarp, "The Martyrdom of St. Polycarp," c. 135 A.D.
"Our Lord Jesus Christ is the Savior of our souls, the Governor of our bodies, and the Shepherd of the Catholic Church throughout the world." St. Polycarp, "The Martyrdom Of St. Polycarp," c. 135 A.D.
"The house of God is one, and there can be no salvation to anyone except in the church." St. Cyprian of Carthage, "Letter 61," c. 250 A.D.
"There is no salvation outside of the church." St. Cyprian of Carthage, "Letter 72," c. 250 A.D.
"The Catholic church is one." St. Victorinus, "Against Arius," c. 280 A.D.
"It is called Catholic then because it extends over all the world, from one end of the Earth to the other; and because it teaches universally and completely one end and all the doctrines which ought to come to men's knowledge, concerning things both visible and invisible, heavenly and earthly; and because it brings into subjection to godliness and the whole race of mankind, governors and governed, learned and unlearned; and because it universally treats and heals the whole class of sins, which are committed by soul and body, and possesses in itself every form of virtue which is named, both in deeds and words, and in every kind of spiritual gifts." St. Cyril of Jerusalem, "Catechetical Lectures," c. 350 A.D.
"Let us note that the very tradition, teaching, and faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning, which the Lord gave, was preached by the Apostles, and was preserved by the Fathers. On this was the Church founded; and if anyone departs from this, he neither is nor any longer ought to be called a Christian." St. Athanasius, "Four Letters to Serapion of Thmuisc," c. 360 A.D.
There is nothing in your post that is supported by Scripture...all you have is dribble from dead men....dubbed "saint"...

FYI...Christian is defined as a follower of Christ...not a follower of dead "saints"...
Clay

Chicago, IL

#418481 Jan 27, 2013
preston wrote:
<quoted text>Peter was never the leader of the FIRST churcfh which was at Jerusalem. James the sibling of Jesus was the leader of that church. according to the Bible, but if you or your church are heretics, you can place anyone you want in that FIRST church, but as for me, i support what the bible says.


Two things you can't determine by the New Testament.
1. That Peter was never in Rome

2. That James is the biological sibling of Jesus.

If you teach your theory based on the New Testament writings, you risk going against the will of Jesus Christ.
You risk spreading rumors about His Mom.
What can you argue on judgement day? You thought everything about Jesus and His Mom was in the 27 books of the New Testament??
Jesus will say, "why on Earth did you think that Preston. I never said that!"
truth

Perth, Australia

#418482 Jan 27, 2013
When we asked we act as childreen asked and talk as from real Mother and Father.
Because of that humanity within us Jesus Christ know us all.. even when we start talk..he know our beginning and end.
He not act as accuser.
truth

Perth, Australia

#418483 Jan 27, 2013
Then explain definition as ''redeemer'' or as ''resurrection''..Is that promise about death body
or body in sleep.
truth

Perth, Australia

#418484 Jan 27, 2013
I know someone who is been 2x saints between us in past life now must be 3x time saints again.

How many times we return on Earthly life?

If i am wrong please tell me why i am wrong?!
alan

Kansas City, MO

#418485 Jan 27, 2013
truth wrote:
How much we are naive if God say I am always with you?
So, this God told the Bible writers to write, "I am always with you"? Let me get this, its pretty important! A fictional character "God" told, actually talked to these Bible writers, he talked to them? I just want to be right here.....God said this to the Bible writers? See, it cant be true...a fictional character cant talk because its not real or true. That clears up everything! And, God told Martyrs to strap bombs to their chests and kill as many innocent woman and children as possible and they will go to heaven and be surrounded by pure young females. So, unless their is more than one God , he must have told the Martyrs to do it. Either they are hearing voices(psychosis) or their crazy! They can pray the crazy away, God said that.......

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#418486 Jan 27, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you mean? We Catholics have the best opportunity available at eternal security. We have the Eucharist. You don't.
But even partaking in the weekly (or daily bread) doesn't guarantee eternal salvation!
We still have free will and can choose to reject Christ.
A couple weeks ago a stripper (that's an exotic dancer) was giving a lap dance to a customer on a hotel balcony. She stumbled back; fell two floors and died.
Her Mom said her daughter went 'home to the lord'.
Do you believe this 'born again' gal is in Heaven?
The CC will say, Maybe. She could have repented on her way down. She could have been forced to take her clothes off to give a lap dance. Only God is the judge, only He knows.
You say, no matter how she lived... She was saved and will be in Heaven.
Your teaching is against God Confrint. You gave false hope to her parents and countless others by making them think they are going to Heaven no matter how they live.
You're a false prophet.
We have the Eucharist. You don't.

lol, we have and partake of the lord's Supper too, but unlike you and your church,we know what it means and refers too.

your church fathers have lied to you so often, you dont know the truth when it reaches up and gets your attention.lol

I would love for you to ever share ONE post where gif has ever tried to give false hope to any person, if they live a life unpleasing to God and His Word, unlike your church who tell you that you receive jesus every week in a piece of grain.lol.and by lying to you, they send your soul to hell, not me, not gif,and not LTM.

YOUR CHURCH.

and when you stand in front of God, you will have no excuse, God will tell you that Preston tried to warn you but you refused to listen,

AND DONT THINK THAT HE WILL NOT TELL YOU.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#418487 Jan 27, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
SNIPPED for stupidity.
??
SO WHY DONT YOU SNIP THE PSOTS OF TRUTH, IF ANY PSOTS ON HERE ARE STUPID, HERS TAKES TEH CAKE.

Are you silent because she is a catholic. she has only wrote ONE post that made sense and that is when she posted as Bill.

the remainder of gibberish, but then thinking about it, we recieve about the same from other catholics on here who believe their church over God and His Word.
truth

Perth, Australia

#418488 Jan 27, 2013
Thanks Alan!
No I am not angry on you.
Some as flood river people died from that don't you..who command that?
Some as weather pattern people died from that don't you
hot or cold or to much wet or chaotic sea or chaotic wind..who command that..is that posses schizophrenic power..or me.

now

Because you try used modern language and take advantege from not educated higly diploma you not smart as you think.

Angels and demons exist..who created them..many spirit world..because of that you are not sick
you become sick because of others who try ruin many life persons family and much more.
Superpower can simple make upside-down this planet with innovation and modern tehnology..as well tiny child just press one thing then finish..future.

thanks Alan..you are my great friend..
o don't worry bless salt is good..
Clay

Chicago, IL

#418489 Jan 27, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>We have the Eucharist. You don't.
lol, we have and partake of the lord's Supper too, but unlike you and your church,we know what it means and refers too.
your church fathers have lied to you so often, you dont know the truth when it reaches up and gets your attention.lol
I would love for you to ever share ONE post where gif has ever tried to give false hope to any person, if they live a life unpleasing to God and His Word, unlike your church who tell you that you receive jesus every week in a piece of grain.lol.and by lying to you, they send your soul to hell, not me, not gif,and not LTM.
YOUR CHURCH.
and when you stand in front of God, you will have no excuse, God will tell you that Preston tried to warn you but you refused to listen,
AND DONT THINK THAT HE WILL NOT TELL YOU.
Our Church fathers lied to us?
My goodness Preston. Who are you?
You have no business getting involved with Christian teaching like that. You can't reveal anything new! These Biblical teachings were already revealed once by God. You think the Apostolic father got it wrong??

Did God decided to reveal it to you 1900 yrs later?

What was taught was taught Preston. It can't be undone. You will not discover a secret hidden meaning to the Gospels. They already explained Our Lords will. Its done. etched in stone. Revealed to the Church for eternity.
I understand you have to degrade the Holy Eucharist because you don't have it. You have to pick it apart cuz you'll never administer it.
Frankly, I clearly see why Christ would establish such a method (bread and wine). He foresaw the Bible manipulators arising one day.

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