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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Since: Nov 08

usa

#418374 Jan 27, 2013
hojo wrote:
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I am just pointing out to "you" and all Protestants, atheists and agnostics how "all of you" (hatefilled anti-catholics) use "any dirt you can dig up" to further your vengeance, hostility and rage
by purposely and conveniently "overlooking" the all of the "same immoral degredation (killing, sexual abuse and any and all sinful actions) of "your own failed religious and non-religious organizations and denominational beliefs". Jesus established, formed and initiated His Church---"to save sinners"! Just because some of its followers stray and commit sin, doesn't mean that Our Lords One True Church was not founded by Jesus Christ HIMSELF, to teach His infallible TRUTH..... Since the Reformation (Anti-Catholic bashing) has been the (desperate ploy) that the majority of "antagonistic" non-catholics use, in order to (unsuccessfully support) their own (half-truth)(half-heresy) "failed beliefs".
The other 1.168 Billion (faith-filled) Catholics around the world, "know the Truth" and that is why the Catholic Church continues to grow (each and every year) "up 1.5% in 2012 while ALL OTHER Protestant groups continue to decline in numbers (the majority of those converting to the TRUE FAITH and Salvation in Jesus Christ and His One (and only one) TRUE Apostolic Catholic Church---historically and biblically PROVEN for over 2000 years!!
stop using the same speech you have been given for thousands of posts,and simply answer my question,you condenm others who killed catholics and yet you stay silent on the needless,senseless killings of the catholic church,so tell me how many people did the church kill because they would not follow the church? this 1.5% growth you speak of are in third world uneducated countries,not happening in the u.s or europe,or other well educated countries,the church is taking advantage of the fact that these poor people do not know the true church history.if they did,you wouldn't have your 1.5% growth.why do you think the pope went to central america not to long ago? that's where your growth is.
Fun Facts

Freeland, MI

#418375 Jan 27, 2013
ReginaM wrote:
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Was just reading about his book "100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura". The table of contents 'alone' is enough of an argument, and this is just one chapter!:
E. The Alleged Perspicuity of Scripture and the Necessity of Authoritative Interpretation (40-53)
40.“Desert Island” Minimalistic Christianity Is Not the Biblical Norm
41. The Historical Wisdom of the Church Is a Better Interpreter than Any Individual or Denomination
42. False Assumptions Can Lead Biblical Exegetes Astray, but the Church is a Sure Guide
43. The Bible Itself Teaches that it Can be Misinterpreted
44. Perspicuity and Denominationalism are at Odds
45. Protestantism is Radically Contradictory in How it Harmonizes and Systematizes “Plain” Scripture
46. The Bible Teaches that Biblical Interpretation is Inherently Necessary
47. Jesus Reveals Hidden Scriptures to the Disciples at Emmaus
48. Sincere Study Alone Does Not Guarantee Correct Interpretation of Scripture
49. Sola Scriptura Means It’s Always the Other Guy’s Problem
50. The Bible Never Lists Its “Essential” Teachings
51. The Bible Asserts that Its Teachings Have to Be “Opened”
52. Many Things in the Gospels Are Difficult to Understand: John 6 for Example
53. In the Old Covenant, Authoritative Teaching Authority Was Constantly Exercised
Very interesting stuff...
Clay

Chicago, IL

#418376 Jan 27, 2013
LTM wrote:
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If it were at all possible, I would take it a part brick by brick.
when I look at pictures of the vatican I see the door to hell.
The gates of hell will not prevail against it, because it is the gates of hell.
'A HOUSE DIVIDE AGAINST IT SELF WILL NOT PREVAIL."
Wow LTM. You're just as hateful and ignorant as Guest.

I don't suppose you could tell me who among you 42,000, has the correct teachings from the Holy Spirit?
I really need to know. I've got so many to choose from! The Bible points me towards the Catholic Church. But I know that can't be true, because LTM says she sees hell when she looks at Bishops and Priests.
So who is it LTM? No two of ya agree on scripture. One of you- evidently is lucky enough to be the one with the answers.
LTM

Sudbury, Canada

#418377 Jan 27, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>everything you said should be a diet,cancer or not,sugars though are not going to matter because cancer cells stick themselves to glucose, which you produce naturally through the breakdown of foods,that is why pancreatic cancer is the worst,that is where glucose comes from.
I agree Jethro it is the same with diabetic, a diabetic diet would be ideal.
Clay

Chicago, IL

#418378 Jan 27, 2013
LTM wrote:
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If it were at all possible, I would take it a part brick by brick.
when I look at pictures of the vatican I see the door to hell.
The gates of hell will not prevail against it, because it is the gates of hell.
'A HOUSE DIVIDE AGAINST IT SELF WILL NOT PREVAIL."
You're in the group that could be classified as 'too stupid to be Catholic'.
Hence, you're a victim; easy prey for cult leaders.

People on the outside of this thread may think I'm being to harsh.
But you and I both know what an ignorant Ideologue you are.
You been treated with the utmost respect for yrs. Yet, you ignore truth and continue posting propaganda and slander. Lies LTM!
You wine because Regina and others aren't nice to you anymore. Yet, you announce that you'd like to take down the Catholic Church brick by brick. You say you see the door to Hell when you look at the Vatican.
Respect you want? Well, maybe the first time you spew your garbage...but not the 700th time.
LTM

Sudbury, Canada

#418379 Jan 27, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Wow LTM. You're just as hateful and ignorant as Guest.
I don't suppose you could tell me who among you 42,000, has the correct teachings from the Holy Spirit?
I really need to know. I've got so many to choose from! The Bible points me towards the Catholic Church. But I know that can't be true, because LTM says she sees hell when she looks at Bishops and Priests.
So who is it LTM? No two of ya agree on scripture. One of you- evidently is lucky enough to be the one with the answers.
I am not as arrogant as your Pope to make such a claim.
The Holy Spirit gifts individuals 'PEOPLE' not a religious denomination. that is why I don't belong to one because I belong to Jesus.
That is what you don't understand, Clay.
Also if you look back over the posts from Preston, myself, confrinting, FOL, many of the other born again christians we are posting the same scriptures to you catholic's to prove where you are wrong in the catholic churches doctrine.
We agree on these scriptures and the whole Bible as Gods Holy Word.
It has total authority over anything man says.
"It is God breathed,"

The popes word or the catholic church has no creditablity to be calling it self the Only True Church of God.
LTM

Sudbury, Canada

#418380 Jan 27, 2013
Clay wrote:
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You're in the group that could be classified as 'too stupid to be Catholic'.
Hence, you're a victim; easy prey for cult leaders.
People on the outside of this thread may think I'm being to harsh.
But you and I both know what an ignorant Ideologue you are.
You been treated with the utmost respect for yrs. Yet, you ignore truth and continue posting propaganda and slander. Lies LTM!
You wine because Regina and others aren't nice to you anymore. Yet, you announce that you'd like to take down the Catholic Church brick by brick. You say you see the door to Hell when you look at the Vatican.
Respect you want? Well, maybe the first time you spew your garbage...but not the 700th time.
To stupid to be catholic, LOL then Praise the Lord let me stay that way.
I don't call you or Regina names Clay, but you both think I am mental and need drugs or called me a drug addict. Or I belong in a mental Hospital etc.
I have been called a liar, and many other names.
So don't tell me I have been treated with respect Clay.
a lay apostle

Lancaster, PA

#418381 Jan 27, 2013
a lay apostle

Lancaster, PA

#418382 Jan 27, 2013
RCC Superiority So BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#418383 Jan 27, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
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Very interesting stuff...
A sure guide?

Terrorism called the Inquisitions? Galileo? Diplomatic immunity from justice for orphans -- thanks to Mussolini.

The church is a good church, but history and reality tell us that there is nothing perfect, no superior guidance, and plenty of faults.

2000 years after the supreme sacrifice, and only about 5% of humanity practice the "perfect message?"

90% of those had it drilled into them from early childhood.

Why not just try to avoid being comedy club material for a few decades and then start back in on being spiritually superior?
RCC Superiority So BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#418384 Jan 27, 2013
You fool me not wrote:
Protestants do agree among themselves on one thing and one thing only--that the Catholic Church is wrong. Poor things ... ROFMLAO!!!!!!!
95% of humanity doesn't buy into the RCC's "perfect teachings" baloney -- and 90% of those had this drilled into them since early childhood.

We see their perfect teachings in action. Mexico City is the largest RCC-majority city on earth.

With it's RCC values, Catholic Mexico is a big narco-country today.

But what can we expect from a totalitarian RCC value system that brought us Hitler, Franco, and Saint Mussolini?
Clay

Chicago, IL

#418385 Jan 27, 2013
LTM wrote:
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To stupid to be catholic, LOL then Praise the Lord let me stay that way.
I don't call you or Regina names Clay, but you both think I am mental and need drugs or called me a drug addict. Or I belong in a mental Hospital etc.
I have been called a liar, and many other names.
So don't tell me I have been treated with respect Clay.
I really didn't mean a personal attack. And I don't think you're really stupid- as in IQ level.
And also, you seem genuinely loving towards your family and individual people in general.

For some reason, you embrace slander towards my faith. Propaganda essays filled with deception; false accusations against the CC.
When you say the Vatican is 'the door way to Hell' its incredibly insulting to me.

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#418386 Jan 27, 2013
Clay wrote:
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I guarantee you, no Catholic would tell anyone to stay away from the Bible. Seriously dude...get a life.
Well, tony-the-phony DID, and he IS a romanist.
Garlic man

Troy, OH

#418387 Jan 27, 2013
alan wrote:
<quoted text>I went to a catholic school for 4 years, taught by nuns. Dont tell me I dont know whats going on, I do know LTM. They brainwashed an entire population. Ever seen God? Ever had a dead human come back from the dead? Ever seen God? ever seen Jesus, Mother Mary, anybody from the Bible? NO! Why, because its a story, a fable like all the other stories humans have told over the ages. But, for some reason this Bible story stuck. Its just for the better. It makes sense that a simple stoy of a Guy that walked on water.......Discussion over, the God seed has been planted. Nothing else matters.Go pray.....
Have you seen me?
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#418388 Jan 27, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>Confirmed over and over again for over 2000 years of proven Church History..JETHRO,not confirmed and proven,wrong choice of words,it's been repeated over and over for the past 2000 yrs of "catholic only" church history,to drill it into your brain until you start to actually believe it is all true when you can not honestly corobborate anything.as far as the new testament goes,i don't put much stock in it because it's all hearsay books,and authors are not really known. nothing is undeniably factual.
Your comments are based upon NOTHING other than first "one opinion", then "another opinion" and just more and "more additional opinions" all (laced with more of your (bogus) anti-catholic distorted church history. You don't put much stock in "ANYTHING" Catholic that is supported over and over again with bounified, abundant and (proven) Church History for over 2000 years. If there is "any hearsay" regarding Church History, it comes "directly" from your Protestant heretical "hack" historian writers, who will write or attempt to "debunk "anything" against the TRUTH of Jesus Christs historically and biblically PROVEN One True Apostolic Catholic Church.
Clay

Chicago, IL

#418389 Jan 27, 2013
LTM wrote:
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I am not as arrogant as your Pope to make such a claim.
The Holy Spirit gifts individuals 'PEOPLE' not a religious denomination. that is why I don't belong to one because I belong to Jesus.
That is what you don't understand, Clay.
Also if you look back over the posts from Preston, myself, confrinting, FOL, many of the other born again christians we are posting the same scriptures to you catholic's to prove where you are wrong in the catholic churches doctrine.
We agree on these scriptures and the whole Bible as Gods Holy Word.
It has total authority over anything man says.
"It is God breathed,"
The popes word or the catholic church has no creditablity to be calling it self the Only True Church of God.
Your understanding of the Bible is flawed. So is Prestons, Confrints and every other non catholic on this thread.
Can you get close to Jesus Christ by just reading Holy Scriptures? Yes. God is love. To read the Scriptures is to look into the mind of God. Its positive and good. Jesus won't reject someone like LTM opening her Bible and praying!
The issue is that you guys are using those very same scriptures without any authority to teach on it. You're over stepping your bounds. Your embracing incredible ignorance along the way.
You can't argue with the Catholic Church on Scriptural meanings. Its pointless. You can't prove them wrong because the scriptures were given to them to safeguard and teach.
This truth may make your blood boil, but oh well. Truth can't be compromised.
Notice the colossal doctrinal mess you are all in. Nomads in the world of sola scripture...
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#418390 Jan 27, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>stop using the same speech you have been given for thousands of posts,and simply answer my question,you condenm others who killed catholics and yet you stay silent on the needless,senseless killings of the catholic church,so tell me how many people did the church kill
I will repeat this for people like you jethro8, who have "difficulty comprehending ANYTHING that "debunks" the anti-catholic "trash talking" garbage that you are so famous for!!

How many Catholics were murdered by the Protestants during their "reformation"?
Calvin sought to persecute Roman Catholics so as to keep Protestant believers in the lands divided by the Reformation faithful to his new teachings. He viciously persecuted the Spaniard, Michael Servetus,a Catholic, having him burnt alive on October 27, 1553. As early as 1545, Calvin had written,“If he [Servetus] comes to Geneva, I will never allow him to depart alive.”
Melancthon, one of the more mild reformers and the editor for Luther’s many works and teachings, would write to Bullinger,“I am astonished that some persons denounce the severity that was so justly used in that case.”[In reference to execution of Roman Catholics]
Theodore of Beza wrote:“What crime can be greater or more heinous than heresy, which sets at nought the word of God and all ecclesiastic discipline? Christian magistrates, do your duty to God [speaking in Calvin's Geneva of 1554], who has put the sword into your hands for the honor of His majesty; strike valiantly these Catholic monsters in the guise of men.” He went on to characterize those who demanded freedom of conscience “worse than the tyranny of the pope. It is better to have a tyrant, no matter how cruel he may be, than to let everyone do as he pleases.”
Martin Luther also fanned the flames of Catholic intolerance,“Whoever teaches otherwise than I teach, condemns God, and must remain a child of hell.”
King Henry VIII of England, who took upon himself the role of grand royal inquisitor, took the lives of some 72,000 Catholics, many who were cruelly tortured.
Queen Elizabeth, proved herself the former’s daughter by putting to death more Catholics in one year than the Inquisition had done in 331 years!
Irish Catholic Holocaust ---. By the mid-19th century, Ireland was a country of Eight Million, mostly peasants. As a result of years of exploitation, they survived as tenant farmers and were never far from economic disaster. They were forced to exist on a single crop: the potato. A disease turned the potato into a foul slime. When the Irish masses turned to the British government for relief, they were denied.
Meanwhile,“Food, from 30 to 50 shiploads per day, was removed at gunpoint (from Ireland) by 12,000 British constables, reinforced by 200,000 British soldiers, warships, excise vessels, and coast guards... Britain seized from Ireland’s producers tens of millions of head of livestock, tens of millions of tons of flour, grains, meat, poultry and dairy products-enough to sustain 18-million persons.”[20]. Note: While the British occupied Northern Ireland millions of Irish Catholics were starving from lack of food not the British.
Gallagher estimates 2 million died from the famine. Writer Chris Fogarty, places the numbers “murdered at approximately 5.16 million, making it the Irish holocaust.” Distinguished legal scholars, like Professors Charles Rice of Notre Dame U. and Francis A. Boyle, U. of Illinois, believe that under International Law, that the British pursued a barbarous policy of mass starvation of Catholics in Ireland from 1845-50, and that such conduct constituted “genocide.”
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#418391 Jan 27, 2013
I will repeat for you, jethro8 your "own history" of Protestant murdering of Catholics and the "hypocricy" that has corrupted you!
How many Catholics were murdered by the Protestants during their "reformation"?
Calvin sought to persecute Roman Catholics so as to keep Protestant believers in the lands divided by the Reformation faithful to his new teachings. He viciously persecuted the Spaniard, Michael Servetus,a Catholic, having him burnt alive on October 27, 1553. As early as 1545, Calvin had written,“If he [Servetus] comes to Geneva, I will never allow him to depart alive.”
Melancthon, one of the more mild reformers and the editor for Luther’s many works and teachings, would write to Bullinger,“I am astonished that some persons denounce the severity that was so justly used in that case.”[In reference to execution of Roman Catholics]
Theodore of Beza wrote:“What crime can be greater or more heinous than heresy, which sets at nought the word of God and all ecclesiastic discipline? Christian magistrates, do your duty to God [speaking in Calvin's Geneva of 1554], who has put the sword into your hands for the honor of His majesty; strike valiantly these Catholic monsters in the guise of men.” He went on to characterize those who demanded freedom of conscience “worse than the tyranny of the pope. It is better to have a tyrant, no matter how cruel he may be, than to let everyone do as he pleases.”
Martin Luther also fanned the flames of Catholic intolerance,“Whoever teaches otherwise than I teach, condemns God, and must remain a child of hell.”
King Henry VIII of England, who took upon himself the role of grand royal inquisitor, took the lives of some 72,000 Catholics, many who were cruelly tortured.
Queen Elizabeth, proved herself the former’s daughter by putting to death more Catholics in one year than the Inquisition had done in 331 years!
Irish Catholic Holocaust ---. By the mid-19th century, Ireland was a country of Eight Million, mostly peasants. As a result of years of exploitation, they survived as tenant farmers and were never far from economic disaster. They were forced to exist on a single crop: the potato. A disease turned the potato into a foul slime. When the Irish masses turned to the British government for relief, they were denied.
Meanwhile,“Food, from 30 to 50 shiploads per day, was removed at gunpoint (from Ireland) by 12,000 British constables, reinforced by 200,000 British soldiers, warships, excise vessels, and coast guards... Britain seized from Ireland’s producers tens of millions of head of livestock, tens of millions of tons of flour, grains, meat, poultry and dairy products-enough to sustain 18-million persons.”[20]. Note: While the British occupied Northern Ireland millions of Irish Catholics were starving from lack of food not the British.
Gallagher estimates 2 million died from the famine. Writer Chris Fogarty, places the numbers “murdered at approximately 5.16 million, making it the Irish holocaust.” Distinguished legal scholars, like Professors Charles Rice of Notre Dame U. and Francis A. Boyle, U. of Illinois, believe that under International Law, that the British pursued a barbarous policy of mass starvation of Catholics in Ireland from 1845-50, and that such conduct constituted “genocide.”
Clay

Chicago, IL

#418392 Jan 27, 2013
JUST-A-CHRISTIAN wrote:
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Well, tony-the-phony DID, and he IS a romanist.
Of course, if you can't read the Bible responsibly then yeah, stay out of it. It can be dangerous in the hands idiots.
How many compounds were constructed after people read Revelation? They thought the whole book was about the end of the world! They thought it was happening now. That was 400 yrs ago and 40,000 cults later.
You conspiracy Christians have ruined souls with your private interpretation of Sacred Scripture.

Every one of you was started by a Biblical theme that was taken out of context and you went Awol with it!
I believe your people, Jac, ran off in a rabid frenzy after seeing something about the Sabbath in Scriptures?
So sad you were duped by these private interpreters and self proclaimed authorities..

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#418393 Jan 27, 2013
Clay wrote:
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Your understanding of the Bible is flawed. So is Prestons, Confrints and every other non catholic on this thread.
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lol, any time you or any other catholic on here can prove me wrong on my understanding of what God teaches ,BRING IT ON!!!!!

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