Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.
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It is possible I didn't see it....please give me the post number where you did answer my question to:
Does this verse say Christ is God and God is Christ?
Ro 8:34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
Oxbow,that was the other day,I am not going that far back to find it.

I answered you with scriptures.

That is why I said you didn't see it.

That should be enough Oxbow.

You haven't answered my queston about those scripures in Revelation.

Who is the Alpha and Omega,the first and the last?
The beginning and the end??

Revelation 1:8
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord,

which is,

and which was,

>>>and which is to come, the Almighty.

Now Oxbow,who is coming back?

PLEASE READ THESE VERSES;

Revelation 21:6
And he said unto me, It is done.

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end.

I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

OXBOW,What did Christ say before He died on the cross?

IT IS FINISHED.

Now,the above verse starts out by saying;

Revelation 21:6
>>>It is done.

Isaiah 44:6
Thus says the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts;
((I am the first, and I am the last));
and besides me there is no God.

Revelation 2:8
And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith
((the first and the last)),
>>>which was dead, >>>and is alive;

Revelation 1:18
I am he that liveth, >>and was dead;
and, behold,
>>>I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death

Romans 14:9
For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.

OXBOW,I fear you are reading God's Word with a carnal mind.

The mystery is revealed in the book of Revelation.

All I know to tell you is to pray for understanding.
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Jan 26, 2013
 
i am Catholic
I stay in my church as i wish and no revoke.
Pray for sinners.
Pray who speak very bad about you and your church.

Go to the church as you do if you beliver never stop believe build within yourself confidence.

Jesus Christ is Lord of your life.
Never give up because he is your salvation.
You will descover trough yourself who are you or he is your help.

I believe in holy word.
I believe in holy power.

''absolute''
''Lord you open eyes to blind
healed sick''

I been in hospital under anastetic..i did not remember nothing for time..but sudenly.. i see
..i see inner myself..i go trough my system..i see what doctor can't see..i know what stay there what doctor not find or not tell me that he find..i did not say to anyone but i pray as always pray
as recommend my spirit in God hand before i go on preparation or way where maybe i not return.
Heavenly is within you that you can see..

confess your sin
go to church
listen mass
receive bless Eucharistic Easter
trough prayers allwayes recommend your soul and soul of your love-ones

''heal the sick..i travel trough my system..i see what i think that i can't see..but i see..i am ok''

pray
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Jan 26, 2013
 
they will tell you..
herer here here there and thereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

find yourself

your kingdoom is within youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

kako siiiiiiiiiiiiiii
who call all night and many night..
why trough my heart
yes please
who are youuuuuuuuuuuuuu
what you want from me

i walk between them

i been there

they sleep in dead bag many body..still arive..yes yes yes
oh see i am alive
i am only walking there
ej simeeeeeee what you doing thereeeeeee
Are you helperrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrr

yes i am..they coming more
whooooooooooooo
this people
i am puting them thereeeeeeeeeeeeee
but they sleep
i am only alive
i return
they are not
its free ticket
you nothing pay

i been there i see
they are dead in bag
they sleep they not weak up
meeeeeee i am alive
i walk
i talk
i wrote this to you that you know

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Jan 26, 2013
 
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I am not interpreting the Bible...I am being led to its truth by the Holy Spirit, as promised by Christ...
You have missed the point...My discussion is not on the Holy Trinity...it is on the erroneous beliefs of Catholics on this forum that Christ is God and God is Christ.
The Catholic religion teaches that Christ is the Incarnate Son of God...SBC teaches Christ is the Son of God..this, as I have shown is supported by Scripture, I firmly believe it.
This has zilch to do with the Trinity,as you erroneously believe...
Do you believe the teaching of the Catholics and the SBC on this matter??
Oxbow,this is what the SBC believes;

They believe in only one God who reveals Himself as God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.

http://christianity.about.com/od/denomination...
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Jan 26, 2013
 
ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

i been there
i walk
they dead
but i am alive
they not return
but i am
yes i am
ha ha ha ha hi hi hi hi
ejjjjjjjjjjjj Simeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
what you doing there
he collecting dead body
he say
more will come

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Jan 26, 2013
 
Oxbow wrote:
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What else needs to be said???
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You, evidently, have not been following this thread. Catholics on this forum have said, over and over, that Christ is God and God is Christ...including Clay..They have provided tons of Scripture that they insist supports their belief!!!!!???? Hello!!!!!
I hope that every Catholic who denies that Christ is the Incarnate Son of God, reads this absolute truth...
"If you don't subscribe to the Teaching that Jesus Christ is the Incarnate Son of God, you are NOT Catholic. You cannot be.
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In rejecting that Teaching, you place yourself outside of the Church."
Thank you for your support...
Oxbow,here is the first verse I gave to answer your question;
1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven,
the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost:

>>>and these three are >>>one
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Jan 26, 2013
 
many many many
dead body

ej simeeeeeeeeeeeee
my friend shime
is ortodox my contraman
hi hi hi
did you died Shime
he is aliveeeeeeeeeeeee
he colecting dead body
shime what you doing thereeeeeeeeeee
its frozen..me noo i walk i talk i did not fill cold
he will stay there who my friend shime
he say just like that
he is collector of dead body
they will come more and more

i return
its free ticket
i did not pay nothing
not at all
did you need passport
not at all
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Jan 26, 2013
 
do you trust your doctor
what they wrote about you
horible evil people

they will come
asked for Mercy
who will give them

i hear them
what they talking
did they know
that i know
not at allllllllllllll
ha ha ha ha ha ha

where we going put them
i mean doctors and nurse
did they going died

i return
happy ticket
so holy
did they are..i mean others
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooo
then

why i am wrong
speak up
what you will do
Are you going pray for yourself
did you sold your soul
to whommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmm
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So then....now you know....Christ is not God...and God ain't Christ...
um ya ox...I guess I know that now. Thanks.
You're uncovered the secret hidden meanings of Christ and his Church and revealed a new revelation on Christianity.. You led me true truth based on your interpretations of scripture.. I suppose I'll pack my bags now and follow you to the pits of hell.

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Jan 26, 2013
 
Elizabeth Badjan, a member of the St. Augustine congregation, told The New York Times that Wallin needed the prayers of parishioners.

"This is all the work of evil," she said as she left Mass last weekend. "He was not close enough to God. He was tempted by the devil."

Wallin's case has drawn comparisons to that of the Rev. Ted Haggard, a well-known evangelical megachurch pastor in Colorado who was forced out of his job in 2006 after a male escort alleged Haggard had paid him for sex and bought crystal meth.

Federal agents arrested Wallin on Jan. 3, and a grand jury indicted him and four other people on drug charges on Jan. 15. All are charged with one count of conspiracy to distribute 500 grams or more of a substance containing methamphetamine and 50 grams of actual methamphetamine, a crime that carries 10 years to life in prison upon conviction.

why should people try and draw comparisons between the two people?

Haggard bought drugs for his pais. KEY word.[bought]

but this guy sold drugs and was a big time drug dealer.

the only similiarity between the two is that both are homosexuals.

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Oxbow,that was the other day,I am not going that far back to find it.
I answered you with scriptures.
That is why I said you didn't see it.
That should be enough Oxbow.
You haven't answered my queston about those scripures in Revelation.
Who is the Alpha and Omega,the first and the last?
The beginning and the end??
Revelation 1:8
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord,
which is,
and which was,
>>>and which is to come, the Almighty.
Now Oxbow,who is coming back?
PLEASE READ THESE VERSES;
Revelation 21:6
And he said unto me, It is done.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end.
I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
OXBOW,What did Christ say before He died on the cross?
IT IS FINISHED.
Now,the above verse starts out by saying;
Revelation 21:6
>>>It is done.
Isaiah 44:6
Thus says the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts;
((I am the first, and I am the last));
and besides me there is no God.
Revelation 2:8
And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith
((the first and the last)),
>>>which was dead, >>>and is alive;
Revelation 1:18
I am he that liveth, >>and was dead;
and, behold,
>>>I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death
Romans 14:9
For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
OXBOW,I fear you are reading God's Word with a carnal mind.
The mystery is revealed in the book of Revelation.
All I know to tell you is to pray for understanding.
037 897 783

You rattled off Scripture that has nothing to do with my question...

Does this verse say Christ is God and God is Christ?
Ro 8:34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

It can be "yes" or "no".... Are you that afraid of the truth????
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LATEST CANCER INFORMATION
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a. Sugar is a cancer-feeder. By cutting off sugar it cuts off one important food supply to the cancer cells. Note: Sugar substitutes like NutraSweet, Equal, Spoonful, etc are made with Aspartame and it is harmful. A better natural substitute would be Manuka honey or molasses but only in very small amounts. Table salt has a chemical added to make it white in colour. Better alternative is Bragg's aminos or sea salt.
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d. A diet made of 80% fresh vegetables and juice, whole grains, seeds, nuts and a little fruits help put the body into an alkaline environment. About 20% can be from cooked food including beans. Fresh vegetable juices provide live enzymes that are easily absorbed and reach down to cellular levels within 15 minutes t o nourish and enhance growth of healthy cells.
To obtain live enzymes for building healthy cells try and drink fresh vegetable juice (most vegetables including bean sprouts) and eat some raw vegetables 2 or 3 times a day. Enzymes are destroyed at temperatures of 104 degrees F (40 degrees C).
e. Avoid coffee, tea, and chocolate, which have high caffeine. Green tea is a better alternative and has cancer-fighting properties. Water--best to drink purified water, or filtered, to avoid known toxins and heavy metals in tap water. Distilled water is acidic, avoid it.
12. Meat protein is difficult to digest and requires a lot of digestive enzymes. Undigested meat remaining in the intestines will become putrified and leads to more toxic buildup.
13. Cancer cell walls have a tough protein covering. By refraining from or eating less meat it frees more enzymes to attack the protein walls of cancer cells and allows the body's killer cells to destroy the cancer cells.
14. Some supplements build up the immune system (IP6, Flor-ssence, Essiac, anti-oxidants, vitamins, minerals, EFAs etc.) to enable the body's own killer cells to destroy cancer cells. Other supplements like vitamin E are known to cause apoptosis, or programmed cell death, the body's normal method of disposing of damaged, unwanted, or unneeded cells.
15. Cancer is a disease of the mind, body, and spirit. A proactive and positive spirit will help the cancer warrior be a survivor.
Anger, unforgiving and bitterness put the body into a stressful and acidic environment. Learn to have a loving and forgiving spirit. Learn to relax and enjoy life.
16. Cancer cells cannot thrive in an oxygenated environment. Exercising daily, and deep breathing help to get more oxygen down to the cellular level. Oxygen therapy is another means employed to destroy cancer cells.
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Oxbow wrote:
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You rattled off Scripture that has nothing to do with my question...
Does this verse say Christ is God and God is Christ?
Ro 8:34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
It can be "yes" or "no".... Are you that afraid of the truth????
Oxbow you are starting to sound like NASL
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Jan 26, 2013
 
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>you have 2000 yrs of true catholic history yes that is true,but you don't have any true history of jesus's church,you don't see the word universal in the book either do you??
You will not see a lot of words in scripture. One is 'Trinity'. Yet, people accept it. And folks on this thread have been arguing about that meaning for a couple days now.
Another is the word Bible. Where does that word appear in the Bible?

So if you're going to make the statement that all of Christianity should be found in the books, I would ask you which books? Who's Bible? Why is it 'the Bible'? Who said its the Bible?
Does Jethro say those books are the Bible?
Does Jethro agree with someone else that says those books are the Bible?
I'll wait for your answer..
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I will help you, Confrinting with your "own history" of Protestant
murdering of Catholics and the "hypocricy" that has corrupted you!
How many Catholics were murdered by the Protestants during their "reformation"?
Calvin sought to persecute Roman Catholics so as to keep Protestant believers in the lands divided by the Reformation faithful to his new teachings. He viciously persecuted the Spaniard, Michael Servetus,a Catholic, having him burnt alive on October 27, 1553. As early as 1545, Calvin had written,“If he [Servetus] comes to Geneva, I will never allow him to depart alive.”
Melancthon, one of the more mild reformers and the editor for Luther’s many works and teachings, would write to Bullinger,“I am astonished that some persons denounce the severity that was so justly used in that case.”[In reference to execution of Roman Catholics]
Theodore of Beza wrote:“What crime can be greater or more heinous than heresy, which sets at nought the word of God and all ecclesiastic discipline? Christian magistrates, do your duty to God [speaking in Calvin's Geneva of 1554], who has put the sword into your hands for the honor of His majesty; strike valiantly these Catholic monsters in the guise of men.” He went on to characterize those who demanded freedom of conscience “worse than the tyranny of the pope. It is better to have a tyrant, no matter how cruel he may be, than to let everyone do as he pleases.”
Martin Luther also fanned the flames of Catholic intolerance,“Whoever teaches otherwise than I teach, condemns God, and must remain a child of hell.”
King Henry VIII of England, who took upon himself the role of grand royal inquisitor, took the lives of some 72,000 Catholics, many who were cruelly tortured.
Queen Elizabeth, proved herself the former’s daughter by putting to death more Catholics in one year than the Inquisition had done in 331 years!
Irish Catholic Holocaust ---. By the mid-19th century, Ireland was a country of Eight Million, mostly peasants. As a result of years of exploitation, they survived as tenant farmers and were never far from economic disaster. They were forced to exist on a single crop: the potato. A disease turned the potato into a foul slime. When the Irish masses turned to the British government for relief, they were denied.
Meanwhile,“Food, from 30 to 50 shiploads per day, was removed at gunpoint (from Ireland) by 12,000 British constables, reinforced by 200,000 British soldiers, warships, excise vessels, and coast guards... Britain seized from Ireland’s producers tens of millions of head of livestock, tens of millions of tons of flour, grains, meat, poultry and dairy products-enough to sustain 18-million persons.”[20]. Note: While the British occupied Northern Ireland millions of Irish Catholics were starving from lack of food not the British.
Gallagher estimates 2 million died from the famine. Writer Chris Fogarty, places the numbers “murdered at approximately 5.16 million, making it the Irish holocaust.” Distinguished legal scholars, like Professors Charles Rice of Notre Dame U. and Francis A. Boyle, U. of Illinois, believe that under International Law, that the British pursued a barbarous policy of mass starvation of Catholics in Ireland from 1845-50, and that such conduct constituted “genocide.”
Thank HoJo.
I'm willing to bet, if Confrint could control the would, he'd round up the Pope and Bishops and kill em. The guy has allot of hate
and..
The man is incredibly jealous of Catholicism. Clearly he wants to be the dictator of Christianity.
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Jan 26, 2013
 
evil people cover up many things
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weed seed..code of your food fruits vegetable medicine vacine meat everything..para para evil programs crimeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

diploma=scribe pharesse this and that
crimeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeee

i am not care what they think..make yourself free tell them what so ever..did they wrote everyday on evil way about you yes they are
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Oxbow wrote:
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You rattled off Scripture that has nothing to do with my question...
Does this verse say Christ is God and God is Christ?
Ro 8:34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
It can be "yes" or "no".... Are you that afraid of the truth????
Oxbow,

I am not going to argue with you.
truth

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Jan 26, 2013
 
commandments
no you don't need support every law..

you need be believer

its within you what others want

now
do you trust them
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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