Roman Catholic church only true churc...

Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 658869 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at CBC News.

hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#418388 Jan 27, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>Confirmed over and over again for over 2000 years of proven Church History..JETHRO,not confirmed and proven,wrong choice of words,it's been repeated over and over for the past 2000 yrs of "catholic only" church history,to drill it into your brain until you start to actually believe it is all true when you can not honestly corobborate anything.as far as the new testament goes,i don't put much stock in it because it's all hearsay books,and authors are not really known. nothing is undeniably factual.
Your comments are based upon NOTHING other than first "one opinion", then "another opinion" and just more and "more additional opinions" all (laced with more of your (bogus) anti-catholic distorted church history. You don't put much stock in "ANYTHING" Catholic that is supported over and over again with bounified, abundant and (proven) Church History for over 2000 years. If there is "any hearsay" regarding Church History, it comes "directly" from your Protestant heretical "hack" historian writers, who will write or attempt to "debunk "anything" against the TRUTH of Jesus Christs historically and biblically PROVEN One True Apostolic Catholic Church.
Clay

Melrose Park, IL

#418389 Jan 27, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not as arrogant as your Pope to make such a claim.
The Holy Spirit gifts individuals 'PEOPLE' not a religious denomination. that is why I don't belong to one because I belong to Jesus.
That is what you don't understand, Clay.
Also if you look back over the posts from Preston, myself, confrinting, FOL, many of the other born again christians we are posting the same scriptures to you catholic's to prove where you are wrong in the catholic churches doctrine.
We agree on these scriptures and the whole Bible as Gods Holy Word.
It has total authority over anything man says.
"It is God breathed,"
The popes word or the catholic church has no creditablity to be calling it self the Only True Church of God.
Your understanding of the Bible is flawed. So is Prestons, Confrints and every other non catholic on this thread.
Can you get close to Jesus Christ by just reading Holy Scriptures? Yes. God is love. To read the Scriptures is to look into the mind of God. Its positive and good. Jesus won't reject someone like LTM opening her Bible and praying!
The issue is that you guys are using those very same scriptures without any authority to teach on it. You're over stepping your bounds. Your embracing incredible ignorance along the way.
You can't argue with the Catholic Church on Scriptural meanings. Its pointless. You can't prove them wrong because the scriptures were given to them to safeguard and teach.
This truth may make your blood boil, but oh well. Truth can't be compromised.
Notice the colossal doctrinal mess you are all in. Nomads in the world of sola scripture...
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#418390 Jan 27, 2013
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>stop using the same speech you have been given for thousands of posts,and simply answer my question,you condenm others who killed catholics and yet you stay silent on the needless,senseless killings of the catholic church,so tell me how many people did the church kill
I will repeat this for people like you jethro8, who have "difficulty comprehending ANYTHING that "debunks" the anti-catholic "trash talking" garbage that you are so famous for!!

How many Catholics were murdered by the Protestants during their "reformation"?
Calvin sought to persecute Roman Catholics so as to keep Protestant believers in the lands divided by the Reformation faithful to his new teachings. He viciously persecuted the Spaniard, Michael Servetus,a Catholic, having him burnt alive on October 27, 1553. As early as 1545, Calvin had written,“If he [Servetus] comes to Geneva, I will never allow him to depart alive.”
Melancthon, one of the more mild reformers and the editor for Luther’s many works and teachings, would write to Bullinger,“I am astonished that some persons denounce the severity that was so justly used in that case.”[In reference to execution of Roman Catholics]
Theodore of Beza wrote:“What crime can be greater or more heinous than heresy, which sets at nought the word of God and all ecclesiastic discipline? Christian magistrates, do your duty to God [speaking in Calvin's Geneva of 1554], who has put the sword into your hands for the honor of His majesty; strike valiantly these Catholic monsters in the guise of men.” He went on to characterize those who demanded freedom of conscience “worse than the tyranny of the pope. It is better to have a tyrant, no matter how cruel he may be, than to let everyone do as he pleases.”
Martin Luther also fanned the flames of Catholic intolerance,“Whoever teaches otherwise than I teach, condemns God, and must remain a child of hell.”
King Henry VIII of England, who took upon himself the role of grand royal inquisitor, took the lives of some 72,000 Catholics, many who were cruelly tortured.
Queen Elizabeth, proved herself the former’s daughter by putting to death more Catholics in one year than the Inquisition had done in 331 years!
Irish Catholic Holocaust ---. By the mid-19th century, Ireland was a country of Eight Million, mostly peasants. As a result of years of exploitation, they survived as tenant farmers and were never far from economic disaster. They were forced to exist on a single crop: the potato. A disease turned the potato into a foul slime. When the Irish masses turned to the British government for relief, they were denied.
Meanwhile,“Food, from 30 to 50 shiploads per day, was removed at gunpoint (from Ireland) by 12,000 British constables, reinforced by 200,000 British soldiers, warships, excise vessels, and coast guards... Britain seized from Ireland’s producers tens of millions of head of livestock, tens of millions of tons of flour, grains, meat, poultry and dairy products-enough to sustain 18-million persons.”[20]. Note: While the British occupied Northern Ireland millions of Irish Catholics were starving from lack of food not the British.
Gallagher estimates 2 million died from the famine. Writer Chris Fogarty, places the numbers “murdered at approximately 5.16 million, making it the Irish holocaust.” Distinguished legal scholars, like Professors Charles Rice of Notre Dame U. and Francis A. Boyle, U. of Illinois, believe that under International Law, that the British pursued a barbarous policy of mass starvation of Catholics in Ireland from 1845-50, and that such conduct constituted “genocide.”
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#418391 Jan 27, 2013
I will repeat for you, jethro8 your "own history" of Protestant murdering of Catholics and the "hypocricy" that has corrupted you!
How many Catholics were murdered by the Protestants during their "reformation"?
Calvin sought to persecute Roman Catholics so as to keep Protestant believers in the lands divided by the Reformation faithful to his new teachings. He viciously persecuted the Spaniard, Michael Servetus,a Catholic, having him burnt alive on October 27, 1553. As early as 1545, Calvin had written,“If he [Servetus] comes to Geneva, I will never allow him to depart alive.”
Melancthon, one of the more mild reformers and the editor for Luther’s many works and teachings, would write to Bullinger,“I am astonished that some persons denounce the severity that was so justly used in that case.”[In reference to execution of Roman Catholics]
Theodore of Beza wrote:“What crime can be greater or more heinous than heresy, which sets at nought the word of God and all ecclesiastic discipline? Christian magistrates, do your duty to God [speaking in Calvin's Geneva of 1554], who has put the sword into your hands for the honor of His majesty; strike valiantly these Catholic monsters in the guise of men.” He went on to characterize those who demanded freedom of conscience “worse than the tyranny of the pope. It is better to have a tyrant, no matter how cruel he may be, than to let everyone do as he pleases.”
Martin Luther also fanned the flames of Catholic intolerance,“Whoever teaches otherwise than I teach, condemns God, and must remain a child of hell.”
King Henry VIII of England, who took upon himself the role of grand royal inquisitor, took the lives of some 72,000 Catholics, many who were cruelly tortured.
Queen Elizabeth, proved herself the former’s daughter by putting to death more Catholics in one year than the Inquisition had done in 331 years!
Irish Catholic Holocaust ---. By the mid-19th century, Ireland was a country of Eight Million, mostly peasants. As a result of years of exploitation, they survived as tenant farmers and were never far from economic disaster. They were forced to exist on a single crop: the potato. A disease turned the potato into a foul slime. When the Irish masses turned to the British government for relief, they were denied.
Meanwhile,“Food, from 30 to 50 shiploads per day, was removed at gunpoint (from Ireland) by 12,000 British constables, reinforced by 200,000 British soldiers, warships, excise vessels, and coast guards... Britain seized from Ireland’s producers tens of millions of head of livestock, tens of millions of tons of flour, grains, meat, poultry and dairy products-enough to sustain 18-million persons.”[20]. Note: While the British occupied Northern Ireland millions of Irish Catholics were starving from lack of food not the British.
Gallagher estimates 2 million died from the famine. Writer Chris Fogarty, places the numbers “murdered at approximately 5.16 million, making it the Irish holocaust.” Distinguished legal scholars, like Professors Charles Rice of Notre Dame U. and Francis A. Boyle, U. of Illinois, believe that under International Law, that the British pursued a barbarous policy of mass starvation of Catholics in Ireland from 1845-50, and that such conduct constituted “genocide.”
Clay

Melrose Park, IL

#418392 Jan 27, 2013
JUST-A-CHRISTIAN wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, tony-the-phony DID, and he IS a romanist.
Of course, if you can't read the Bible responsibly then yeah, stay out of it. It can be dangerous in the hands idiots.
How many compounds were constructed after people read Revelation? They thought the whole book was about the end of the world! They thought it was happening now. That was 400 yrs ago and 40,000 cults later.
You conspiracy Christians have ruined souls with your private interpretation of Sacred Scripture.

Every one of you was started by a Biblical theme that was taken out of context and you went Awol with it!
I believe your people, Jac, ran off in a rabid frenzy after seeing something about the Sabbath in Scriptures?
So sad you were duped by these private interpreters and self proclaimed authorities..

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#418393 Jan 27, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Your understanding of the Bible is flawed. So is Prestons, Confrints and every other non catholic on this thread.
..
lol, any time you or any other catholic on here can prove me wrong on my understanding of what God teaches ,BRING IT ON!!!!!
Clay

Melrose Park, IL

#418394 Jan 27, 2013
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
I will repeat this for people like you jethro8, who have "difficulty comprehending ANYTHING that "debunks" the anti-catholic "trash talking" garbage that you are so famous for!!
How many Catholics were murdered by the Protestants during their "reformation"?
Calvin sought to persecute Roman Catholics so as to keep Protestant believers in the lands divided by the Reformation faithful to his new teachings. He viciously persecuted the Spaniard, Michael Servetus,a Catholic, having him burnt alive on October 27, 1553. As early as 1545, Calvin had written,“If he [Servetus] comes to Geneva, I will never allow him to depart alive.”
Melancthon, one of the more mild reformers and the editor for Luther’s many works and teachings, would write to Bullinger,“I am astonished that some persons denounce the severity that was so justly used in that case.”[In reference to execution of Roman Catholics]
Theodore of Beza wrote:“What crime can be greater or more heinous than heresy, which sets at nought the word of God and all ecclesiastic discipline? Christian magistrates, do your duty to God [speaking in Calvin's Geneva of 1554], who has put the sword into your hands for the honor of His majesty; strike valiantly these Catholic monsters in the guise of men.” He went on to characterize those who demanded freedom of conscience “worse than the tyranny of the pope. It is better to have a tyrant, no matter how cruel he may be, than to let everyone do as he pleases.”
Martin Luther also fanned the flames of Catholic intolerance,“Whoever teaches otherwise than I teach, condemns God, and must remain a child of hell.”
King Henry VIII of England, who took upon himself the role of grand royal inquisitor, took the lives of some 72,000 Catholics, many who were cruelly tortured.
Queen Elizabeth, proved herself the former’s daughter by putting to death more Catholics in one year than the Inquisition had done in 331 years!
Irish Catholic Holocaust ---. By the mid-19th century, Ireland was a country of Eight Million, mostly peasants. As a result of years of exploitation, they survived as tenant farmers and were never far from economic disaster. They were forced to exist on a single crop: the potato. A disease turned the potato into a foul slime. When the Irish masses turned to the British government for relief, they were denied.
Meanwhile,“Food, from 30 to 50 shiploads per day, was removed at gunpoint (from Ireland) by 12,000 British constables, reinforced by 200,000 British soldiers, warships, excise vessels, and coast guards... Britain seized from Ireland’s producers tens of millions of head of livestock, tens of millions of tons of flour, grains, meat, poultry and dairy products-enough to sustain 18-million persons.”[20]. Note: While the British occupied Northern Ireland millions of Irish Catholics were starving from lack of food not the British.
Gallagher estimates 2 million died from the famine. Writer Chris Fogarty, places the numbers “murdered at approximately 5.16 million, making it the Irish holocaust.” Distinguished legal scholars, like Professors Charles Rice of Notre Dame U. and Francis A. Boyle, U. of Illinois, believe that under International Law, that the British pursued a barbarous policy of mass starvation of Catholics in Ireland from 1845-50, and that such conduct constituted “genocide.”
45 million Catholic Martyrs in the 20th century alone. Among them, 3 million Polish Catholics during the holocaust.
Clay

Melrose Park, IL

#418395 Jan 27, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>lol, any time you or any other catholic on here can prove me wrong on my understanding of what God teaches ,BRING IT ON!!!!!
You memorize Bible versus Preston. That's all.

You've come to the conclusion that me, my wife and two children will be in eternal hell because we plan on remaining Catholic. We are not saved according to you.

You want more proof?
Clay

Melrose Park, IL

#418396 Jan 27, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>lol, any time you or any other catholic on here can prove me wrong on my understanding of what God teaches ,BRING IT ON!!!!!
You claim all the Apostolic fathers were wrong.
You offer nothing remotely rational on how the Bible was compiled.... when, where and how we got the New Testament.
All you got is what you say the Bible says.
And you say it says my family will burn in hell for remaining Catholic.
More proof?
LTM

Longlac, Canada

#418397 Jan 27, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Your understanding of the Bible is flawed. So is Prestons, Confrints and every other non catholic on this thread.
Can you get close to Jesus Christ by just reading Holy Scriptures? Yes. God is love. To read the Scriptures is to look into the mind of God. Its positive and good. Jesus won't reject someone like LTM opening her Bible and praying!
The issue is that you guys are using those very same scriptures without any authority to teach on it. You're over stepping your bounds. Your embracing incredible ignorance along the way.
You can't argue with the Catholic Church on Scriptural meanings. Its pointless. You can't prove them wrong because the scriptures were given to them to safeguard and teach.
This truth may make your blood boil, but oh well. Truth can't be compromised.
Notice the colossal doctrinal mess you are all in. Nomads in the world of sola scripture...
By whom's authority do you have the right to tell me I can't do something God says I can do.
God gave the Catholic church the Holy Scriptures to safe not a chances Clay are you kidding.
You should read up on the Nomads Clay. You might learn something.
Clay

Melrose Park, IL

#418398 Jan 27, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>lol, any time you or any other catholic on here can prove me wrong on my understanding of what God teaches ,BRING IT ON!!!!!
Remember, its you guys who are bringing the fight to us. I didn't seek to convert you. I didn't get in your face and tell you your going to hell with your kids and Pope (if you had one).
You guys aren't secure enough in your theology. So when you see a headline like the one on this thread, you go bananas. Could it be you're sacred it might be truth?
You should have been content with your congregation, your church, and your Bible. Catholics got their teachings AND authority directly from the Apostles. Nothing..... not even the gates of hell will bring it down.
LTM

Longlac, Canada

#418399 Jan 27, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
You claim all the Apostolic fathers were wrong.
You offer nothing remotely rational on how the Bible was compiled.... when, where and how we got the New Testament.
All you got is what you say the Bible says.
And you say it says my family will burn in hell for remaining Catholic.
More proof?
Many Biblical characters, such as Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, David and others, lived a nomadic lifestyle. A nomad lived in tents and traveled from location to location in search of water and pastures for their livestock.

The religion of the nomads is very different from our understanding of religion. The whole of the nomads life was his religion. As his very existence was dependent upon rain he understood that his life was in God's hands at all times. The nomad saw the power, justice, love and mercy of God in all things and coversly all of his activities, from eating to making shelter, was seen as a service to God. The nomad lived in harmony with his surroundings and understood as being one with God who created all things. In short, his life was one long prayer to God.
LTM

Longlac, Canada

#418400 Jan 27, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Your understanding of the Bible is flawed. So is Prestons, Confrints and every other non catholic on this thread.
Can you get close to Jesus Christ by just reading Holy Scriptures? Yes. God is love. To read the Scriptures is to look into the mind of God. Its positive and good. Jesus won't reject someone like LTM opening her Bible and praying!
The issue is that you guys are using those very same scriptures without any authority to teach on it. You're over stepping your bounds. Your embracing incredible ignorance along the way.
You can't argue with the Catholic Church on Scriptural meanings. Its pointless. You can't prove them wrong because the scriptures were given to them to safeguard and teach.
This truth may make your blood boil, but oh well. Truth can't be compromised.
Notice the colossal doctrinal mess you are all in. Nomads in the world of sola scripture...
Clay I would never tell someone their family is bound for hell ever.
For one that isn't my call,
Second to claim I know all the Bible would not be true, I don't .
Third, I do believe God is able to teach me, through the power of His Holy Spirit, He is more then able to give me a revelation of His Holy Word.
You sir do not know your God, or the Power of God.
My blood does not boil Clay my heart is sad for you and all of the catholic's who have been lead away from God, by false prophets and false doctrine.
Clay

Melrose Park, IL

#418401 Jan 27, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Clay I would never tell someone their family is bound for hell ever.
For one that isn't my call,
Second to claim I know all the Bible would not be true, I don't .
Third, I do believe God is able to teach me, through the power of His Holy Spirit, He is more then able to give me a revelation of His Holy Word.
You sir do not know your God, or the Power of God.
My blood does not boil Clay my heart is sad for you and all of the catholic's who have been lead away from God, by false prophets and false doctrine.
Your heart is 'sad for me and all other Catholics' because you do not understand the Bible. You don't understand the CC and rely on stereotypes and propaganda to shape your opinion of us.
That my friend, is the only thing you should be sad about.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#418402 Jan 27, 2013
atemcowboy wrote:
<quoted text>lol, any time you or any other catholic on here can prove me wrong on my understanding of what God teaches ,BRING IT ON!!!!!
preston

Just for clarification....

Luke 1
"1 Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us,

2 Even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word;

3 It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus,

4 That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed."

Theophilus had been instructed(not by writing) but orally. And Luke sought to write to him, because Luke had a perfect understanding(not based in scripture), based in orally transmitted form to him of all things from the very first....

This does not make the writing perfect, but Luke's understanding perfect, which he sought to convey through writing to Theophilus.

Therefore one cannot say that basing sola scriptura on Luke's understanding is sola scriptura, but only what he had heard. Thus this is not a support for sola scriptura. Rather it is a support of the oral tradition.
Clay

Melrose Park, IL

#418403 Jan 27, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
By whom's authority do you have the right to tell me I can't do something God says I can do.
God gave the Catholic church the Holy Scriptures to safe not a chances Clay are you kidding.
You should read up on the Nomads Clay. You might learn something.
Where does God say you can privately interpret sacred scripture how you see fit.

AND,

Teach those scriptures how you see fit?

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#418404 Jan 27, 2013
Only the Catholics!!!!

When Rome went from being pagan to Christian under Constantine, they had to find a replacement for the great mother of paganism. It was not until the time of Constantine that anyone began to look at Mary as a goddess.

Since Mary was the mother of Jesus Christ, she was the most logical person to replace the pagan mother goddess. The pagans could continue their prayers and devotion to the mother goddess, only they would call her Mary.

The pagans worshipped the mother as much or more than her son and this is exactly what the Roman Catholicism does. True Christianity teaches that Jesus Christ is to be worshipped – not his mother.

The fact remains that Jesus never hinted at the idea of Mary worship nor did any of the apostles. Worshipping the mother goddess along with her child took place centuries before Jesus Christ was ever born in many different parts of the world. In 431 A.D. Mary worship became an official doctrine of the church in at the Council of Ephesus.
ReginaM

Lakehurst, NJ

#418405 Jan 27, 2013
Pad wrote:
Regina continued:I see many things about Roman Catholicism that continues to divide the Body.It is very hard for evangelicals especially to forsake the original commandments by forcing a unity with Roman Catholicism,in regards to the houses of worship and the use of images and so on.Those protestants who seek to be RC may have no problem with certain things,but eventually will have problems with the lack of real fellowship,that creates a greater bond with individual believers.
I do not personally have a problem with the RC Liturgy,and of course I respect it.But to me than that is all there is,because you have to seek out those who have been converted as you say.
We who are not RC receive the truth of the Liturgy through the preaching of the Word,and I will not argue whether or not that is the case in your estimation,although you can comment on that if you want. But truth and the exposition of such in preaching and teaching brings out the Liturgy of what you hear at Mass. Of course I know that Communion is different.
What you think we may lack,is what many fail to see in the very act of being present to HEAR and receive of what is true,noble,of good report,and holy in the Body of Christ.
Serving Christ is part of every aspect of becoming believers.That is the DOERS of the Word,as James teaches,not just hearers.
That uniqueness in Christ that we all have does set apart all who follow Him.We grow in that grace and knowledge of what sets us apart. We are not of this w o r l d,and that has to be seen in how we deal with sin,not how we look.
Unity can only be a spiritual understanding of what connects us to begin with.If we look at our ways of conducting services,or the mass,we will rebel from the notion that we are ONE in Christ.But if we see Him in us,than in fact we are ONE in Christ,and the truth of His Word and Prayer to His Father is fulfilled.
Many may see that we have to be under one title of Christian faith,but if we really open our eyes of understanding,we realize that our UNITY is spiritually motivated by the Spirit in Christ.
I don't understand your reasoning, Dan. How can you deny the very writings that you claim as your sole authority? They profess one Lord, one Faith, one Baptism...one church...Christ's prayer to the Father that they may be...one...

It wasn't His church that broke from protestantism, it was protestants that broke from His church.*That* is the division of which you speak. Pride manifested itself in the reformation, protestantism the result. There's reform and there's reform. Reform for the good of the Church is one thing (see Teresa of Avila, John of the Cross). Reform for the satisfaction of one's ego is quite another (see Martin Luther, et al.)

I'd been meaning to read more about Dorothy Day and found this article about her by Jim Forest entitled "Dorothy Day - Saint and Troublemaker". Seemingly a woman of contradictions, the author relates this anecdote:

"Pleased as she was when home Masses were allowed and the Liturgy translated into English, she didn’t take kindly to smudging the border between the sacred and mundane. When a priest close to the community used a coffee cup for a chalice at a Mass celebrated in the soup kitchen on First Street, she afterward took the cup, kissed it, and buried it in the back yard. It was no longer suited for coffee — it had held the Blood of Christ. I learned more about the Eucharist that day than I had from any book or sermon. It was a learning experience for the priest as well — thereafter he used a chalice."
http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/rel...

As you can see, there really were no contradictions. She was a woman of single mind and purpose. She was a daughter of the Church (with more than a bit of St. Peter in her). I hope you print this little story out and keep it close to you, read it often.

“The wicked are not smart”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#418406 Jan 27, 2013
RCC Superiority So BUSTED wrote:
<quoted text>
95% of humanity doesn't buy into the RCC's "perfect teachings" baloney -- and 90% of those had this drilled into them since early childhood.
We see their perfect teachings in action. Mexico City is the largest RCC-majority city on earth.
With it's RCC values, Catholic Mexico is a big narco-country today.
But what can we expect from a totalitarian RCC value system that brought us Hitler, Franco, and Saint Mussolini?
“95% of humanity doesn't buy into the RCC's "perfect teachings" baloney -- and 90% of those had this drilled into them since early childhood.”
1- Please cite the source of your statistics please. LOL!
2- The Catholic Church has many rites besides the roman rite. Just trying to help your ignorance a little bit.
3- The Catholic Church’s teachings are indeed perfect because they don’t come from man but from God.
4- Even if 0% of the world’s population didn’t believe in the Catholic Church, She would continue to be the only True Church that Christ founded. Truth does not depend on trends, opinions, popular vote,% of people that adhere to it, etc. For example, the Earth never was the center of the universe, not even when close to 100% of the people believed so.
And finally, the Catholic Church is a monarchy of divine origin and not a democracy. Because truth is not determined by human beings but comes from God (and thus it is absolute, unchangeable and universal), the Catholic Church, who is the guardian of this truth, cannot be a democracy.
Clay

Melrose Park, IL

#418407 Jan 27, 2013
I'm a little crabby today. I've got a migraine. I'll try to be more respectful.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Pope Benedict XVI Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News Parishioners attend a mass at Catedral de Nuest... 37 min Proper Words Police 15
News United House of Prayer for All People: Bishop's... (Apr '08) Tue Proud2Goson 10,242
News The untold story of Queen Elizabeth I and Islam Sep 25 Full Muslim stupid 13
News Cardinal tipped to be the next Pope warns of an... Sep 20 Looking down our ... 25
News Catholic schools being closed at alarming rate (Apr '08) Sep 11 Jeremy 158
News The Latest: Walesa misses papal Mass, blames la... Sep 10 Ste 1
News Mother Teresa declared saint by Pope Francis Sep 8 South Knox Hombre 6
More from around the web