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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 603093 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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marge

Ames, IA

#418054 Jan 24, 2013
Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.

Mark 12:29 "The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this:'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.

Deuteronomy 4:35 You were shown these things so that you might know that the LORD is God; besides him there is no other.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#418055 Jan 24, 2013


"Why the Catholic Church is the Only True Christian Church"!

It is becoming less and less popular these days to consider the term 'Christian' to mean Catholics, or even the numerous Protestant denominations. When someone says that he or she is 'Christian,' they are generally referring to Fundamentalism. Fundamentalism, however, is based primarily on the teachings of Paul, rather than Jesus; and those who adhere to it merely "pick and choose" specific lines and passages which will uphold their erroneous beliefs, leaving out or misinterpreting anything which is not convenient to their stand.

Fundamentalists routinely dismiss the Catholic Church in such contemptuous terms as "the whore of Babylon," and attempt to grant it unsavory status by likening it to an equally-contemptuous term, "Judaizers." To briefly note the correlations between the two, Fundamentalists have great negativity toward such aspects as Priests, Altars, Holy Water, Dietary Regulations, the bread/wafers, and keeping the Ten Commandments. In other words, the Catholic Church following the same precepts as the Jewish religion which Jesus lived, is something which Fundamentalists point at as "wrong." Teaching that Jesus, and belief in Jesus, represents the irrelevance of the Old Testament, Fundamentalists dismiss one of the most important precepts which Catholics adhere to:
Matthew 5:17-19 says "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place. Therefore, whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do so will be called least in the kingdom of heaven. But whoever obeys and teaches these commandments will be called greatest in the kingdom of heaven."

The subject of what constitutes "salvation" is one of the most significant dividers. As Fundamentalists fully believe that once one has "accepted Christ as one's personal savior" that one individual act constitutes being "saved," they are dismissing everything that is clearly written in black and white, clearly stating that that is not so. With that belief, Fundamentalists take extreme exception to much of what the Catholic Church is based upon-- they do not believe in the sacraments, even the Eucharist and confession are scorned. Nothing past the act of being "saved" is considered relevant.

As is written in Matthew 7:21: "Not everyone who says to Me, "Lord, Lord," shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven." This is only one passage which is given to mean that one's actions are indeed relevant. What is the will of God? One can begin that answer with the Commandments. One can continue answering by recalling the words of Jesus in his Sermon on the Mount:

Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.

Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.

Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.

Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

In those words alone one cannot deny the importance of how one lives one's life. Those who have given themselves to the Catholic Church, either as its leaders or followers, know this. And one need look no further than the eighth Beatitude to understand. The question you can ask yourself is are you a Fundamentalist, or are you a true Christian?


marge

Ames, IA

#418056 Jan 24, 2013
Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!"

Praise the LORD, O my soul. O LORD my God, you are very great; you are clothed
with splendor and majesty.... O LORD my God, how great you are!

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#418057 Jan 24, 2013
054
marge wrote:
Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.
Mark 12:29 "The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this:'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.
Deuteronomy 4:35 You were shown these things so that you might know that the LORD is God; besides him there is no other.
Deut 6:4 teaches one God.....not that God is Christ, not that Christ is God..

Here is a brief summary of religion, containing the first principles of faith and obedience. Jehovah our God is the only living and true God; he only is God, and he is but One God. Let us not desire to have any other.
Clay

United States

#418058 Jan 24, 2013
JUST-A-CHRISTIAN wrote:
<quoted text>
^^^^^^spoken by an absolute IDIOT.
By your trying to tell anyone to 'stay away from the Bible' God gave us, you prove how Christian you are NOT.
I guarantee you, no Catholic would tell anyone to stay away from the Bible. Seriously dude...get a life.
truth

Perth, Australia

#418059 Jan 24, 2013
i remember i walk its blue everywhere
soul and body many ..i see man with long hair and bear
i walk he collecting body and soul..yes
no i don't be scare i remember..who lift me there..
i been today in catholic church near royal hospital..my cathedral in nice..its Cross..its have 3x stage..i did not be around table..no up on top where is blue i walk i see i remember..who lift me there see..i sit usual on stage 4 where mother Mary wait Jesus..now you are wrong mother Mary is redemption..its true..now who bring me there..i will sleep on floor front of Cross of my mother..

pray for soul..they are there with body..lots of body
dead body..i did not see no-one alive except him man with long hair and bear..i think is Sime ..its you Jesus did you..then who have to be there..how i can explain.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...

I been in Cathedral today..i pray i can't pray proply they babbling for themself one big man ruin my prayers..i don't liked that..other people need pray too..Jesus know for all of us.
Clay

United States

#418061 Jan 24, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
054
<quoted text>
Deut 6:4 teaches one God.....not that God is Christ, not that Christ is God..
Here is a brief summary of religion, containing the first principles of faith and obedience. Jehovah our God is the only living and true God; he only is God, and he is but One God. Let us not desire to have any other.
eh ox. you bring a different perspective. On one hand you claim to be a Christian (or used too)
Now you appear to be a Jehovah Witness or something else... because you deny that Jesus Christ is God made manifest?
This to me, is the casualty of Sola Scripture.
You and all the other non Catholics feel good when reading our Bible and Praying. Amen!

Somehow, during the feel good moments...y'all went goofy and thought you could change the Holy Scriptures to mean opposite of what the Apostles taught.
Jesus is God Ox.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#418062 Jan 24, 2013
061
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
eh ox. you bring a different perspective. On one hand you claim to be a Christian (or used too)
Now you appear to be a Jehovah Witness or something else... because you deny that Jesus Christ is God made manifest?
This to me, is the casualty of Sola Scripture.
You and all the other non Catholics feel good when reading our Bible and Praying. Amen!
Somehow, during the feel good moments...y'all went goofy and thought you could change the Holy Scriptures to mean opposite of what the Apostles taught.
Jesus is God Ox.
The Holy Trinity: God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

Show me this Trinity that expresses your belief that God is Christ and that Christ is God.
Clay

United States

#418063 Jan 24, 2013
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
You pay me a compliment...WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS ...THAT CONFRONTING WITH THE WORD...WILL NOT COMPROMISE THE WORD OF GOD, IN ORDER TO GAIN FAVOR WITH ANY MAN.
I DON'T COURT YOUR COMPLIMENTS....Your friendship is not more important to me than telling you the truth that can save you never dying soul
from eternal hell.
I do not believe that Preston would compromise the word either....I do not believe he is that starved for your compliments.
Neither one of you will acknowledge a serious truth.
That is: You both claim to be uniquely called by GOD to send a message to us, via the Holy Scriptures.
In a nut shell... you both *believe you were called by God to be an authority on Sacred Scripture.

obviously the problem would be... you're poles apart on Christian theology.. So, one of Yous is wrong.
Or both of you are wrong and the Catholic Church is correct.
Clay

United States

#418065 Jan 24, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
061
<quoted text>
The Holy Trinity: God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Show me this Trinity that expresses your belief that God is Christ and that Christ is God.
I can show you why we Catholics believe so..based on our Bible AND divine tradition.

But you'll disagree, because (although you accept the CCs opinion that the New Testament is the valid writings of the Apostle) you think they interpreted it wrong. Correct?
The first 1800 yrs of Christianity interpreted it wrong. Now you inherit the truth?
truth

Perth, Australia

#418066 Jan 24, 2013
http://www.blueletterbible.org/commentaries/c...
i been in cathedral i see that cross..its blueeeeeeeeee
everywhere

but i walk i talk..he must love me and show to me
they are dead body..no i don't see they are alive not at all..he collecting and say its coming more..everything as huge as huge blue place but frozen
for me..no no no i walk i don't fill cold not at all.

they babbling when they pray..no sense..nooooooo
i been very angry on that man today before i come..he babbling..could you expecting that prayers power nooooooooooo..
pray in quiet ..
as well priest need pray as leader as well explain..they are very short they not explain to people..they need explain more..its gospel spread good news.
truth

Perth, Australia

#418067 Jan 24, 2013
they waiting for resurrection..Cross

now you are liar..

How you can say that?
How?

you liked that they are not to be save..could you imagen that..you are jealous then and very bad wishers..what a shame?

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#418069 Jan 24, 2013
065
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
I can show you why we Catholics believe so..based on our Bible AND divine tradition.
But you'll disagree, because (although you accept the CCs opinion that the New Testament is the valid writings of the Apostle) you think they interpreted it wrong. Correct?
The first 1800 yrs of Christianity interpreted it wrong. Now you inherit the truth?
You cannot show me The Holy Trinity that expresses your belief that God is Christ and that Christ is God.....because, as I have repeated shown, that never happened.

Question. Your religion teaches that Christ is the Incarnate Son of God?????!!!!! Why do you not believe what your religion teaches???
Clay

United States

#418070 Jan 24, 2013
Oxbow wrote:
065
<quoted text>
You cannot show me The Holy Trinity that expresses your belief that God is Christ and that Christ is God.....because, as I have repeated shown, that never happened.
Question. Your religion teaches that Christ is the Incarnate Son of God?????!!!!! Why do you not believe what your religion teaches???
Scripture upon scripture has been provided for you to show you're in error.
You provided some that show you're not in error.
That's the reality of sola scripture.
Apparently. each one of us are to determine what Our lords will was.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#418071 Jan 24, 2013
070 065
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Scripture upon scripture has been provided for you to show you're in error.
You provided some that show you're not in error.
That's the reality of sola scripture.
Apparently. each one of us are to determine what Our lords will was.
Why are you not answering my question??? Afraid of the truth????

Question. Your religion teaches that Christ is the Incarnate Son of God?????!!!!! Why do you not believe what your religion teaches???

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#418072 Jan 24, 2013
070
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Scripture upon scripture has been provided for you to show you're in error.
You provided some that show you're not in error.
That's the reality of sola scripture.
Apparently. each one of us are to determine what Our lords will was.
What you are saying is impossible. The Word of God is infallible...it cannot teach opposites....

“The Black Mermaid”

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#418073 Jan 25, 2013
Elizabeth wrote:
As someone who is catholic and was raised in the faith, I find this truly offensive that the Pope would make a statement like this. It is making me seriously consider leaving the church. As long as popele believe in God and the holy trinity, why does it matter whether they believe as catholics, methodists, lutherans, etc? I think Benedict has gone too far with this statement and I do believe it is going to hurt the catholic church in the long run.
That was one of the dumbest and most arrogant statements he could have made. Show his caveman mentality. He should keep his stupid mouth shut - he does NOT speak for the world - or for God, for that matter. His arrogance and his blatant disregard for the children sexual victims have shown the world that he cares about nothing except his filthy rich empire.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#418074 Jan 25, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Neither one of you will acknowledge a serious truth.
That is: You both claim to be uniquely called by GOD to send a message to us, via the Holy Scriptures.
In a nut shell... you both *believe you were called by God to be an authority on Sacred Scripture.
obviously the problem would be... you're poles apart on Christian theology.. So, one of Yous is wrong.
Or both of you are wrong and the Catholic Church is correct.
sorry clay but it is you that are wrong and that by a country mile, the difference between gif and myself are purely personal, not doctrinal.

He and I both believe in being Born Again, beind filled with the Holy Ghost and being Baptised with the Holy Ghost as a seperate distinctly different Spiritual Experience apart from being Saved.

THE MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US IS HE SPEAKS IN TONGUES(WHICH IS BIBLICAL), I DO NOT.

while you, with other catholics, on the other hand feel that you get to experience Jesus in a piece of grain
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#418077 Jan 25, 2013
John 14

King James Version (KJV)


14 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.

5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?

6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?

23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.

26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.

30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

31 But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.
RCC Superiority So BUSTED

Melbourne, FL

#418078 Jan 25, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
I'll face it.
Diplomatic immunity isn't "from God" and doesn't have that purpose of saving souls, does it?
Thank you.

Nothing wrong with the RCC faith when it's at the local level, where people are accountable to each other.

The problem is at the top - zero accountibility.

Locally, normal Catholics would NEVER praise or support the Vatican's use of immunity in such an evil way.

This doesn't take away anything from them except the title of this board.

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