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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 685540 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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truth

Koondoola, Australia

#417782 Jan 23, 2013
Sime is been my friend..yes he visiting us many times ..i am catholic he is ortodox ..his childreen is half catholic half Orthodox..they told me Sime past away.

I am believer.
I am prayer.

My lovely friend Sime not pray..but i see him as alive i walk and talk with him..i see on big frozen blue planet..i see many body frozen..
ej Sime ..he replay ..he know about that..he is helper about frozen body.

When Sun come all soul as well body will come alive.

I see my friend Sime is there as helper.

Who bring me there i don't know..who bring me back i don't know..but i am still alive i remember that i talk with him..my friend Sime is some he is alive.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#417783 Jan 23, 2013
750 582
Full of Love wrote:
<quoted text>
Isaiah 44:24
Thus saith the LORD, >>thy redeemer,
>>and he that formed thee from the womb,
>>>I [am] the LORD that maketh >>>all [things]; that stretcheth forth the heavens >>alone;
that spreadeth abroad the earth >>>by myself;
Now Oxbow,we know from the scriptures who the word was and that all things were created by Him.
1 John 2:1
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate >>>>with the Father, >>>Jesus Christ the righteous
This verse is calling the Father,Jesus Christ the righteous.
Can you explain this away instead of using the same verse of 1Timothy3:16 over and over again Oxbow?
Ro 8:34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Does this verse say Christ is God and God is Christ?
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#417784 Jan 23, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Dr. Scott Hahn by the way dear Catholics was not an Evangelical minister,he was a PRESBYTERIAN minister.And his church has been in a liberal sea of opinion and activities long before Scott Hahn was even born.Scott Hahn was educated in a liberal Presbyterian Seminary, attending schools of liberal academia,receiving his degrees under a liberal theology.
Presbyterianism is steeped in a liberal/Calvinistic theology to date,and in Scott's years the same.Some of the most liberal politicians of our day who became Democrats,and some even Republicans are Presbyterians who question the Virgin Birth,and for the most part give lip service to Jesus being God,they think of His sonship to God as being no more that any man on earth being a son of God.
The only Evangelical Presbyterians can be found in the deep sounth,or with the Westminister confession that upholds John Knox,they are a minority.Scott Hahn was from the main stream Presbyterians.Yes he is a brilliant man,and now at least he gives truth to who Jesus really is,and he seeks to serve Christ,but his claiming that he is evangelical or was to use that as fuel to refute Evangelicals at large is blurred by his true heritage with liberal theology in Presbyterianism.
Scott Hahn is only the tip of the iceberg Pad. The number of highly educated converts from the evangelical ranks is stunning.
Pad

Fishers, IN

#417785 Jan 23, 2013
Catholics are unwilling to realize that Evangelical congregations were formed to confront the Liberal factions in Protestantism,and to ensure the better way of following Christ through Scripture and a holy sought life.

The founders of Methodism the Wesley brothers(John and Charles) would role in their graves seeing Methodism today.

John Knox would plead with God to let him go from the grave and confront the Presbyterian church of today.

Congregationalists were becoming liberal even when they formed in this country in the early 1700s.The Reformer churches faced problems in their theology as early as the 1600s,and the first Great Awakening brought to light in this country and in England the fallacy of viewing Jesus as just a reformer and a political activist,rather than the Son of God who completely changes the whole thinking of human beings in relation to the Kingdom of the Father.

Presbyterianism was the first of the great reformer churches that went by the wayside of liberal whitewashed ideology and theology.It is because Calvinism at its roots is in error,and even though there were great Presbyterians who did in fact love Christ,their theology concerning the Predestination of a believer and selective divine appointment for salvation could not hold the foundation of truth to sustain the evangelical move to make disciples of all Nations who would FOLLOW Christ to the death.

We know full well as well, that the World Council of Churches promoted and spread Liberation Theology,which even Communist regimes could use to try and destroy the core of Christianity that was evangelical based.
Catholic Pedos

Toronto, Canada

#417786 Jan 23, 2013
What is not stunning to these Catholic pedo-enablers is the scale of child-molestation and cover-ups by the Catholic Church, which has time and again decided to continue leaving more innocent children at the mercy of pederasts. They are not "stunned" at all by this. It is completely normal behavior to these cockroaches.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#417787 Jan 23, 2013
754
Full of Love wrote:
<quoted text>
Please explain this verse;
1Ti 3:16 And without controversy
>>>great is the (((mystery)))) of godliness<<<<:
>>>God<<< was manifest >>in the flesh<<<,
justified >>>>in the Spirit<<<<,
seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world,
>>>>received up into glory.
GOD,FLESH and SPIRIT.
I did...here it is again....

615

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

The first parallel verse listed for Ti 3:16 is: Mt 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: Followed by:And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Plain as day...from Scripture.. God is God and Christ is His Son......God said so!!!!!! I believe Him!!!!!
LTM

Longlac, Canada

#417788 Jan 23, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
You all are outside of the Church anyway. So it really doesn't matter what you think of sacred scripture.
Under the false banner of Scripture alone, you're all right. In fact, you can't argue with Catholicism either.
I am curious Ox...how would you define your religion? I don't know of any Protestant denominations that do not believe in the Trinity.
----------

Its not about a religion Clay it is about faith in God.
Religion's will save no one. The false banner of scripture only.
So what did your church fathers get their great knowledge of what Jesus taught if they didn't believe the Bible.
You can't change what is written in the word of God's Holy Scripture.
But what is passed around orally can change many times all depends on who is telling it.
You think the Holy Scriptures are false too bad Clay, because you are calling God a liar.
His written word isn't good enough,instead of trusting what God said you rather trust what sinful men say to you.
What is preach orally, must match up with the Holy Scriptures.
The catholic oral teachings do not.
truth

Koondoola, Australia

#417789 Jan 23, 2013
no
don't be a liar
not yet see light there
its frozen and snow is there
not yet any light
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooo
you can't be liar

my friend Sime need pray
if i see where he walk
and he doing
not yet
there not yet any light..its frozen everywhere..

How i fill..i don't fill any cold not at all.

I wrote before about when took me up near huge huge big fire ball as Sun..i been close but did not fill any burning or hot.

I did not fill hot or any cold.

Where is frozen blue I see my friend Sime..he is alive
he is helper there he say he know many body frozen will come.

When new Sun come all soul as well body will be alive.
LTM

Longlac, Canada

#417790 Jan 23, 2013
Full of Love wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh,Thank you Truth.
And please keep praying.
He is now in Phili at the cancer center of Amrica.
They did a scan on him there and the cancer is not in his liver.
It is in his pancreas and lymphnodes.
They had to wait to get his sugar down first.
The cancer in his pancreas caused his sugar to go really high.
Thank you for your concern.
Thank you for the up date FOL.
My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family, in these trying times.
Pad

Fishers, IN

#417791 Jan 23, 2013
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Scott Hahn is only the tip of the iceberg Pad. The number of highly educated converts from the evangelical ranks is stunning.
"The way to destruction is B R O A D,and many there be that are on it."The truth of the fact is that Roman Catholicism is what they are converting to,and they are singing its praises,and are comfortable in their so called reasoning to promote a system rather than to seek to build the Body of Christ.You consider your church alone to be the Body of Christ which sets you apart from the rest of us,and that will be the stumbling block that divides us,IT will take Christ alone to heal that division,perhaps the humble from all factions will be able with His help to destroy the stumbling blocks.But the truth also is that in His presence,our differences will be of no value or concern.

Those who convert to Roman Catholicism promote that,there is NOTHING that makes Christ is any clearer or anymore WHO He has proven Himself to be to all believers no matter what their affiliation is.

Christ is the fulfillment of WHAT is of the kingdom of the Father,not a religious system such as Roman Catholicsm,or Orthodoxy,or Anglicanism,or anyother affiliation.To SEE Christ is to love all who belong to Him,no respecter of persons.
truth

Koondoola, Australia

#417792 Jan 23, 2013
I pray for my friend Sime..he say many frozen body still arrive.
Are you for sure I am wrong?
All of us not yet past away.
My friend Sime is alone..he is helper with frozen body.
hej Sime ..how you know..he replay he know many frozen body will come.

I will pray friend Sime.
He is not be prayer.
He show to me what they doing.

its frozen blue..Sun not yet come there..
pray for my friend Sime..
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#417793 Jan 23, 2013
LTM wrote:
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
You all are outside of the Church anyway. So it really doesn't matter what you think of sacred scripture.
Under the false banner of Scripture alone, you're all right. In fact, you can't argue with Catholicism either.
I am curious Ox...how would you define your religion? I don't know of any Protestant denominations that do not believe in the Trinity.
----------
Its not about a religion Clay it is about faith in God.
Religion's will save no one. The false banner of scripture only.
So what did your church fathers get their great knowledge of what Jesus taught if they didn't believe the Bible.
You can't change what is written in the word of God's Holy Scripture.
But what is passed around orally can change many times all depends on who is telling it.
You think the Holy Scriptures are false too bad Clay, because you are calling God a liar.
His written word isn't good enough,instead of trusting what God said you rather trust what sinful men say to you.
What is preach orally, must match up with the Holy Scriptures.
The catholic oral teachings do not.
You have neither the authority nor the intellectual ability to decide who teaches per scripture and who doesn't.

You should stick with being a student. You're not ready, may not ever be ready to be a teacher of scripture.
Pad

Fishers, IN

#417794 Jan 23, 2013
BIG mistake in my post:"Those who convert to Roman Catholicism promote that, there is NOTHING that makes Christ is any clearer or anymore WHO He has proven Himself to be to all believers no matter what their affiliation is."

BAD sentence on my part I am sorry for this mistake.To focus on what I meant is that those who convert to Roman Catholicism only promote that system,trying to convey that they are in full communion with Christ through the RCC.But the fact is Christ has nothing to do with respect to one facet of Christianity,but His Body is in the whole,and He is full,and complete in every believer who embraces Him and follows Him to their death.

Christ proves with His presence Love and fellowship in every believer,Who and what He is to accomplish His will in and through them the Vessels of His Love.

Joining the RCC does not make you anymore better a believer than watching Martial Arts on TV makes you a practitioner of Martial Combative Arts.
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#417795 Jan 23, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Dr. Scott Hahn by the way dear Catholics was not an Evangelical minister,he was a PRESBYTERIAN minister.And his church has been in a liberal sea of opinion and activities long before Scott Hahn was even born.Scott Hahn was educated in a liberal Presbyterian Seminary, attending schools of liberal academia,receiving his degrees under a liberal theology.
Presbyterianism is steeped in a liberal/Calvinistic theology to date,and in Scott's years the same.Some of the most liberal politicians of our day who became Democrats,and some even Republicans are Presbyterians who question the Virgin Birth,and for the most part give lip service to Jesus being God,they think of His sonship to God as being no more that any man on earth being a son of God.
The only Evangelical Presbyterians can be found in the deep sounth,or with the Westminister confession that upholds John Knox,they are a minority.Scott Hahn was from the main stream Presbyterians.Yes he is a brilliant man,and now at least he gives truth to who Jesus really is,and he seeks to serve Christ,but his claiming that he is evangelical or was to use that as fuel to refute Evangelicals at large is blurred by his true heritage with liberal theology in Presbyterianism.
He was a Minister at Trinity Presbyterian Church in Fairfax, VA

Are you saying this Church questioned the Trinity??

Scott Hahn and his wife Kimberly claim they were former EVANGELICAL Presbyterians.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#417796 Jan 23, 2013
760
Full of Love wrote:
<quoted text>
You wrote:
for it is written,
Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God,
>>>and him only<<< shalt thou serve.
Oxbow,can you answer this for me?
Why did the Wisemen worship Jesus when they seen Him?
10 When they saw the star, they rejoiced with exceeding great joy.
11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and >>>>>worshipped him:
and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.
12 And being warned of God in a dream that they should not return to Herod, they departed into their own country another way.
They came to do him homage.

There was, at this time, a prevalent expectation that some remarkable personage was about to appear in Judea. The Jews were anxiously looking for the coming of the Messiah. By computing the time mentioned by Daniel,(Da 9:25-27,) they knew that the period was approaching when the Messiah should appear.

MESSIAH is the designation given by the Hebrews, eminently, to that Savior and Deliverer whom they expected, and who was promised to them by all the prophets. As the holy unction was given to kings, priests, and prophets, by describing the promised Savior of the world under the name of Christ, Anointed, or Messiah, it was sufficiently evidenced that the qualities of king, prophet, and high priest would eminently center in him, and that he should exercise them not only over the Jews but over all mankind, and particularly over those who should receive him as their Savior.

Josephus also, and Philo, two Jewish historians, make mention of the same expectation. The fact that such a person was expected is clearly attested. Under this expectation these wise men came to do him homage, and inquired anxiously where he was born?
Clay

Saint Paul, MN

#417797 Jan 23, 2013
Pad wrote:
Catholics are unwilling to realize that Evangelical congregations were formed to confront the Liberal factions in Protestantism,and to ensure the better way of following Christ through Scripture and a holy sought life.
The founders of Methodism the Wesley brothers(John and Charles) would role in their graves seeing Methodism today.
John Knox would plead with God to let him go from the grave and confront the Presbyterian church of today.
Congregationalists were becoming liberal even when they formed in this country in the early 1700s.The Reformer churches faced problems in their theology as early as the 1600s,and the first Great Awakening brought to light in this country and in England the fallacy of viewing Jesus as just a reformer and a political activist,rather than the Son of God who completely changes the whole thinking of human beings in relation to the Kingdom of the Father.
Presbyterianism was the first of the great reformer churches that went by the wayside of liberal whitewashed ideology and theology.It is because Calvinism at its roots is in error,and even though there were great Presbyterians who did in fact love Christ,their theology concerning the Predestination of a believer and selective divine appointment for salvation could not hold the foundation of truth to sustain the evangelical move to make disciples of all Nations who would FOLLOW Christ to the death.
We know full well as well, that the World Council of Churches promoted and spread Liberation Theology,which even Communist regimes could use to try and destroy the core of Christianity that was evangelical based.
I don't think you realize how difficult it is to keep track of all the different non-catholic Christian groups.
Even more so, its impossible to keep track of the doctrinal mess.
Just look at this board in the last 24 hrs and see how chaotic protestantism is.
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#417798 Jan 23, 2013
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>"The way to destruction is B R O A D,and many there be that are on it."The truth of the fact is that Roman Catholicism is what they are converting to,and they are singing its praises,and are comfortable in their so called reasoning to promote a system rather than to seek to build the Body of Christ.You consider your church alone to be the Body of Christ which sets you apart from the rest of us,and that will be the stumbling block that divides us,IT will take Christ alone to heal that division,perhaps the humble from all factions will be able with His help to destroy the stumbling blocks.But the truth also is that in His presence,our differences will be of no value or concern.
Those who convert to Roman Catholicism promote that,there is NOTHING that makes Christ is any clearer or anymore WHO He has proven Himself to be to all believers no matter what their affiliation is.
Christ is the fulfillment of WHAT is of the kingdom of the Father,not a religious system such as Roman Catholicsm,or Orthodoxy,or Anglicanism,or anyother affiliation.To SEE Christ is to love all who belong to Him,no respecter of persons.
"Those who convert to Roman Catholicism promote that,there is NOTHING that makes Christ is any clearer or anymore WHO He has proven Himself to be to all believers no matter what their affiliation is."

Not sure what you're saying here Pad. Almost every high profile, low profile, educated, non-educated, pastor, preacher, writer, etc. evangelical has explained their reason for converting as one of discovering the fullness of Christ in the Eucharist and in the teaching of His Church. Very few make it an opportunity to bash evangelicalism, if fact, the only time I ever see them go after evangelicals is when they're defending against attacks by their former groups.
truth

Koondoola, Australia

#417799 Jan 23, 2013
we catholic believe in all Christian unity
everyone who pray in his name..
na vjerovanje=i believe

svijetlo bozije
daru lijepi
sidji s bozijeg krila dol
um prosvitli
volju krijepi
lijeci duse
tesku bol..

jacaj u nas
vjeru svetu
koju donije svijetu
svaki da to djeluje
sto u srcu vjeruje
slozi glas duso moja
pjevajte mu usta moja
koji je nad zvijezdama
sve sto bijese i sve sto je
sve je puno slave tvoje
sve te dici i slavi
oce vjerne ljubavi
krv i tijelo
tvoga sina
neizmjerne cijene dar
stavlja tebi na oltar.
Anthony MN

Saint Paul, MN

#417800 Jan 23, 2013
Pad wrote:
BIG mistake in my post:"Those who convert to Roman Catholicism promote that, there is NOTHING that makes Christ is any clearer or anymore WHO He has proven Himself to be to all believers no matter what their affiliation is."
BAD sentence on my part I am sorry for this mistake.To focus on what I meant is that those who convert to Roman Catholicism only promote that system,trying to convey that they are in full communion with Christ through the RCC.But the fact is Christ has nothing to do with respect to one facet of Christianity,but His Body is in the whole,and He is full,and complete in every believer who embraces Him and follows Him to their death.
Christ proves with His presence Love and fellowship in every believer,Who and what He is to accomplish His will in and through them the Vessels of His Love.
Joining the RCC does not make you anymore better a believer than watching Martial Arts on TV makes you a practitioner of Martial Combative Arts.
"Joining the RCC does not make you anymore better a believer than watching Martial Arts on TV makes you a practitioner of Martial Combative Arts."

Being able to partake of the Bread of Life and the Cup of Salvation is reason enough for most converts.
Catholic Pedos

Toronto, Canada

#417801 Jan 23, 2013
I think they enjoy the alter boys the most.

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