Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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LTM

Sudbury, Canada

#417531 Jan 22, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
The altar call story. Thrilling. Christ, reduced to some schoolboy suitor knocking on the door of your heart and you finally let Him in.
I asked "what day do you go to Heaven", assuming we're corresponding on the temporal plane.
I didn't mention an alter call Dan, I was sitting in my seat in church.
It was the Holy Spirit working on the inside of me.
I hadn't cried in years held everything inside. Sat by myself never talked to anyone etc.
I was very much aloner never trusted anyone.
I got upset about something in church, and started to cry .
Once I started to cry I cried for a month steady, that day in church was just the start of it.
Did you know the Holy Spirit pursues us Dan, for me it started from the time I was 3 years old and up till I was 34 before I made Jesus my Lord and Savior, when God's time was right he knew what the out come would be. He knew before time began.
I know you believe what your church says Dan, I believe what the Bible says.
It took me years before I could sit in a church and look at the man in the pulpit to make an alter call hardly, I don't like the idea of someone putting their hands on me that I don't know.
God took a hold of me right in my pew,very sinner on this earth has got to learn to love themselves Dan its a command of Gods.
2nd commandment.
"Love your neighbour! as yourself."
It doesn't say your neighbour has to be perfect, nor does it say you have to be perfect.
'YET WHILE WE WERE SINNERS JESUS DIED FOR US, BECAUSE GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD' that means everyone.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#417532 Jan 22, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
I never said that non-Catholis can't get to heaven.
Ever.
Not in so many words.

"come home" seems to be a likable saying with you Catholics.

Your home is not where Jesus placed his heart - neither should anyone else.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#417533 Jan 22, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Claiming he cured someone of Parkinsons, which allowed him to be part of the beatification process.
Unless, he surgically removed the person's brain cells, and revamped them, then placed them back into the person's head.
http://rense.com/general8/park.htm
I doubt JP2 had any medical training at all, let alone brain surgery.
To claim such a feat, is bullshite.
When did the Pope claim this miracle himself?

That would be the citation I'm looking for from chuck.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#417534 Jan 22, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, because the title is only applicable here in this plane of existence.
OK.

They operate in the temporal plane, but fine.
Clay

United States

#417535 Jan 22, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
Anthony, you have been shown proof of just the opposite of what you just posted from bibcal scriptures God's true Holy Word.
God declare no human leader over His church .
That is not bibical, we are lead by the Holy Spirit, Jesus Himself said He would never leave nor forsaken us.
The problem is not mine it is yours Anthony, don't try and make it mine.
If your Bishop is not born from above through the power of the Holy Spirit, he is not of God and can not know the things of God.
Which makes him spiritual dead.
Is John Paul II in hell I don't know, that is none of my business that is between him and God.
I hope not, I don't wish hell on anyone Dan, but neither has your Pope have the right to say who goes to hell or heaven, and not amount of money can buy a person into heaven.
I'm honored you think Anthony wrote my post.

Tell me LTM, why do you think Jesus gave Peter the keys? Why did He tell Peter to feed His sheep?

We obviously know from the Bible, there was at least one Vicar of Christ. You guys just disagree that the keys were passed to the next generation.
right?
You keep saying you're led by the Holy Spirit. But none of you lead the same. That doesn't add up..

also, no Pope has ever declared someone to be in Hell.. not even Hitler.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#417536 Jan 22, 2013
Full of Love wrote:
<quoted text>
What I am trying to do out of love is show him that they are the same.
I care about Oxbow and everyone else.
Instead of saying what you just said,why not agree with me on the subject of the trinity?
You do believe they are the same right?
If so,then don't you think he needs to be shown proof in the scriptures?
The scriptures that I have posted are what the RCC uses to prove they are one.
I can read and see proof in God's Holy Word.
Sure I believe in the Trinity.

Oxbow's seen the same scriptures you have and concluded as he has written using those self-same scriptures.

He's made his own proof.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#417537 Jan 22, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
Not in so many words.
"come home" seems to be a likable saying with you Catholics.
Your home is not where Jesus placed his heart - neither should anyone else.
Not in any words.

It IS a likeable saying. I particularly like the Lou Holtz ad.

"Come home" hardly seems an indictment of those not "home", does it?
Dan

Omaha, NE

#417538 Jan 22, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't mention an alter call Dan, I was sitting in my seat in church.
It was the Holy Spirit working on the inside of me.
I hadn't cried in years held everything inside. Sat by myself never talked to anyone etc.
I was very much aloner never trusted anyone.
I got upset about something in church, and started to cry .
Once I started to cry I cried for a month steady, that day in church was just the start of it.
Did you know the Holy Spirit pursues us Dan, for me it started from the time I was 3 years old and up till I was 34 before I made Jesus my Lord and Savior, when God's time was right he knew what the out come would be. He knew before time began.
I know you believe what your church says Dan, I believe what the Bible says.
It took me years before I could sit in a church and look at the man in the pulpit to make an alter call hardly, I don't like the idea of someone putting their hands on me that I don't know.
God took a hold of me right in my pew,very sinner on this earth has got to learn to love themselves Dan its a command of Gods.
2nd commandment.
"Love your neighbour! as yourself."
It doesn't say your neighbour has to be perfect, nor does it say you have to be perfect.
'YET WHILE WE WERE SINNERS JESUS DIED FOR US, BECAUSE GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD' that means everyone.
My mistake.

A "pew call".
LTM

Sudbury, Canada

#417539 Jan 22, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
"Earth is the "Devil's realm"."
Why do you live in fear?
Have you ever seen this entity?
Is he in your neighborhood today?
Why doesn't the news media and social networks have information on this entity.
A: because this entity only exists in someone who is in fear.
Live in love, and you will never see any "bad guys".
"GOD" throw satan out of Heaven and made him god of the earthly realm.
I have seen a man possessed by demons NASL .
Dan

Omaha, NE

#417540 Jan 22, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
BTW - that isn't what I asked.
I asked you to provide an infallible teaching.
But again, you chose to divert.
You are good at that.
Runaway.
You and Oxbow have more in common than what you realize.
I sent a list to chuck.

Today I did it.

Did you not see it?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#417541 Jan 22, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
The number is not specific.
Please list the "at least three books" you think exist.
Please be specific.
Thanks!
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
NASL
REV 20:14
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Since there were "books" and "another book"...., that means there were at least 3 books.....It could have been more....
One of the books was called the book of life. The others, I wouldn't speculate on....
Yes, one is called the "Book of Life"....and the "others" are not listed.

In honesty, you are correct, you cannot speculate on them, because you do not know the specifics.

Why would "God" leave out these specifics, if indeed "John" is "inspired"?

It doesn't have any logic to it at all, yet many will wrap their lives around the "Book of Life", speculating this and that.

Can you be honest enough to say, "there isn't enough information to justify that there are multiple books, so I really don't know what to believe in this regard.

But, on the other hand, you promote the "Book of Life" as if you are/will be part of it.

Book of Life - as men have determined
"In Christianity and Judaism, the Book of Life (Hebrew: &#1505;&#1508;&#15 12; &#1492;&#1495;&#14 97;&#1497;&#1501;, transliterated Sefer HaChaim) is the book in which God records the names of every person who is destined for Heaven or the World to Come. According to the Talmud it is open on Rosh Hashanah, as is its analog for the wicked, the Book of the Dead. For this reason extra mention is made for the Book of Life during Amidah recitations during the Days of Awe, the ten days between Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish new year, and Yom Kippur, the day of atonement (the two High Holidays, particularly in the prayer Unetaneh Tokef)."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Life

Don't you just love how men can dictate what others are to believe?

Why don't you believe Jesus when he says:
(3) Jesus says:

(1) "If those who lead you say to you:‘Look, the kingdom is in the sky!’
then the birds of the sky will precede you.
(2) If they say to you:‘It is in the sea,’ then the fishes will precede you.
(3) Rather, the kingdom is inside of you, and outside of you."
(4) "When you come to know yourselves, then you will be known,
and you will realize that you are the children of the living Father.
(5) But if you do not come to know yourselves, then you exist in poverty, and you are poverty."

Don't you think doing this, will ensure your spot in the "Book of Life"?

How does any human know that "God" even has this book, if:

a. No.
- The Book of Life is mentioned throughout the Scriptures: Exodus 32:32; Daniel 12:1; Luke 10:10; Philippians 4:3; Revelation 3:5; 13:8; 17:8; 20:12; 20:15.
- Luke 10:10 - has no reference to such a book, nor is it spoken of by Jesus

Why do you believe men over Jesus?
LTM

Sudbury, Canada

#417542 Jan 22, 2013
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm honored you think Anthony wrote my post.
Tell me LTM, why do you think Jesus gave Peter the keys? Why did He tell Peter to feed His sheep?
We obviously know from the Bible, there was at least one Vicar of Christ. You guys just disagree that the keys were passed to the next generation.
right?
You keep saying you're led by the Holy Spirit. But none of you lead the same. That doesn't add up..
also, no Pope has ever declared someone to be in Hell.. not even Hitler.
The Gospel of Jesus Christ was given to us all not just Peter.
Without the Baptism of the Holy Spirit Clay re-birth you will not get into the KIngdom of Heaven.
What do you know of the keys of heaven can only be learned through the Holy Spirit who teaches us all things.
Because everyone who worships God must walk in the Spirit not in the Flesh.
The Spirit is willing but the flesh is weak because it is of this earth, the Spirit is from above.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#417543 Jan 22, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
When did the Pope claim this miracle himself?
That would be the citation I'm looking for from chuck.
As I said, he didn't, he was already dead.

Those men who "choose saints" did.

I think it is all a publicity stunt to further hide from the abuse that has been uncovered.

"Hey, let's put JP2 in for beatification, that way, the followers will revel in this, instead of the abuse cases."

This is what I speculate occurred.*shrugs*

Funny thing is - the Catholics bought into it.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#417544 Jan 22, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
When did the Pope claim this miracle himself?
That would be the citation I'm looking for from chuck.
LATEST AND GREATEST NEWS UPDATE:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/05/n...

Pope John Paul didn't cure Parkinsons in nun afterall.

Darn!!

Back to the drawing board.

:o)

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#417545 Jan 22, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
OK.
They operate in the temporal plane, but fine.
"the temporal plane"

temporal plane
- the depressed area on the side of the skull below the inferior temporal line.

What are you talking about, now? making things up that have no relevance is very telling.

But then again, another diversion to you, is another few moments that you don't have to be honest, huh?
Dan

Omaha, NE

#417546 Jan 22, 2013
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
BTW - that isn't what I asked.
I asked you to provide an infallible teaching.
But again, you chose to divert.
You are good at that.
Runaway.
You and Oxbow have more in common than what you realize.
Here.

Assumption of Mary

"By the authority of our Lord Jesus Christ, of the Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul, and by our own authority, we pronounce, declare, and define it to be a divinely revealed dogma: that the Immaculate Mother of God, the ever Virgin Mary, having completed the course of her earthly life, was assumed body and soul into heavenly glory[18]"

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#417547 Jan 22, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
Not in any words.
It IS a likeable saying. I particularly like the Lou Holtz ad.
"Come home" hardly seems an indictment of those not "home", does it?
First off - "home is where the heart is".....not a specific place or time.

"Come home" is actually an incorrect suggestion, especially, when the CC has never been verified as any "home" for anyone.

Jesus spoke about people like you, and blatantly stated that those individuals are "uninformed".

You do believe in what Jesus stated, right?

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#417548 Jan 22, 2013
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
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oh, I almost forgot ... FYI - there is no possible way Constantine could have waged war against Muslims, Clay, and your statement shows me you still have not read what I wrote.
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Islam was not a religion until 300 years AFTER Constantine's death - can you understand that? can you understand what I am trying to get through to you?
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For 300 years AFTER Constantine waged war in the Name of God - FOR the Roman Catholic Church - Muslims did not exist. There were, however, people native to the area that followers of Constantine continued to war with and persecute. They got tired of it. Their response was to fight back and Muhammad created Islam to *unite* the native people together....
...much like Constantine did when he started Wars for God to *unite* everyone under one religion and one government.
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.... and we have been dealing with the sheer horror of that since!
guest

Are you saying Constantine lived 300 years old and then got tired?
or,

After Constantine lived in (Byzantium, New Rome,Constantinople,) he and his followers, for 300 years waged war and persecuted who?

You are really going to have to connect the dots for me, because the Roman Empire split up, and dissolved. After the RCC, there was no Roman Empire.(It is like you are saying it is the fault of Hawaii that there was a Civil War in the U.S., and the North won the War, before it became a state....) Your logic eludes me.

Then what does this have to do with the CC in Rome, if the Ottoman Turks(Muslim) invaded Constantinople, and Rome responded with a call to defend Constantinople and surrounding territories?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#417549 Jan 22, 2013
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
"GOD" throw satan out of Heaven and made him god of the earthly realm.
And you know this by:
a. Talking with "God" directly?
b. Reading what another man wrote?
c. The internet?
d. From your parents?
e. From your pastor/priest?

The choices are many. But there is only one truth through honesty.
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
I have seen a man possessed by demons NASL .
I doubt it. But you'll claim this without any evidence no doubt.

Mutations form in all forms of life, from plants to animals. A mutation is a diversion from the normal progression of development.

For example, a sixth toe on a human is a mutation.
- genes cause these mutations
- mutations can be defined as a change to a gene, that can affect brain functions, as with mental issues and challenges.
- at one point in history, mental patients were considered "demon possessed" and ultimately rid of.

Your mentality of thinking you were present when a demons had possessed someone, would have surely made some sort of media attention, or even an article, or video.

Do you have anything to support your claim?

If not, then why make the claim to begin with?

Are you trying to garnish attention from Dan?
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#417550 Jan 22, 2013
Revival and Resurrection. There is a scheduled time for our revival and resurrection after being punished.
Come, let us return to the Lord. For He has torn us, but He will heal us; He has wounded us, but He will bandage us. He will revive us after two days. He will raise us up on the third day, that we may live before Him.(Hosea 6: 1-2)

The Third day here is the Thousand Year Millinium.

It is also the Seventh Day ( Thousand Years as a day and day as a year) in which the land willl rest for polluting and violating of the SABBATHS of the previous 6 Thousand years.

Therefor the Land must REST every 7th Year as well.

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