Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

[7th Day Catholics Rock]

You fool me not wrote:

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No, I am not Regina, although I admire her for standing up for the Church Christ founded.
"The preaching of ministers should be examined by the Scriptures".
By whom??? Under who's authority? Who determines who has such authority?
"Every preacher should expect his doctrines to be examined in this way, and to be rejected if they are not in accordance with the Word of God".
But according to you people, every person is their own authority to interpret the Bible. Who decides who's interpretation is wrong and who's is right?

U Sho Nuf Is Purdy !!!!

[Anthony MN]

RCC Superior BS - BUSTED wrote:

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Facts confuse them.
You could post 100 links, it will mean nothing.
The cult will continue to chant "All 6783 Popes have been perfect in every way and anything to the contrary is just rumor, forgery, hatred, nah, nah, nah..."

Another Protestant Reformation USA and Jesus approved dogma; The Internet Never Lies....

Lol.

[RCC Superior BS - BUSTED]

Anthony MN wrote:

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And "Jesus Approved" slaughter of 55 million innocents....

Yes, according to the Second Secret of Fatima.

About that many died in World War, all ordered up by Jesus.

"You have seen hell where the souls of poor sinners go. To save them, God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart. If what I say to you is done, many souls will be saved and there will be peace. The war is going to end: but if people do not cease offending God, a worse one will break out during the Pontificate of Pope Pius XI."

Creepy stuff.

[RCC Superior BS - BUSTED]

Anthony MN wrote:

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Another Protestant Reformation USA and Jesus approved dogma; The Internet Never Lies....
Lol.

No one said that. You are being goofy again.

Mexico City is calling you. Live out your life in a morally superior Catholic society.

Terrible, awful Reformation America doesn't deserve you. Go where most churches are TRUE, like you.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

[confrinting with the word]

Sherlayne wrote:

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OMG, are you a follower of Benny Hinn? You gotta be kidding! He's the biggest phony going!

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I am a follower of Jesus Christ..

Since Benny Hinn is evidently standing between Anthony and God...

That means He is closer to God than Anthony is.

I don't see Benny Hinn attempting to claim a franchise or a monopoly on the Kingdom of God...even though He was raise as a Roman Catholic.

He ministers healing to them as well as the protestants. All that attend his meetings.

[hojo]

RCC Superior BS - BUSTED wrote:

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Hojo rants -- "nothing to discuss or debate"
I agree. You have no proof and only self-produced, biased "evidence."

Wrong again,(as usual) which is (exactly) like the rest of your other 42,000+ contradicting, conflicting and inconsistent Protestant bible only (half-truth, half heresy Christian denominations. The "only thing" proven about the Protestant "hodge-podge" of "circus-merry-go-round " beliefs of confusion and chaos is that they (have never), nor (will ever_, agree on ANYTHING accept attacking, condemning and passing their "personal opinion" judgement against the TRUTH: the historical and biblical TRUTH of Jesus Christ and His One (and only) True Church---the Catholic Church....... Since Martin Luther and the Reformation in the 1500's , Protestantism has acquired a "proven track record" of distorting and manipulating the TRUE interpretation of the bible (all 42,000+ of them--- to their own "demise and destruction"!! YOU CAN HAVE IT!! IT IS ALL YOURS!!! I'll stick to the historical and biblical TRUTH of Christs ONLY True Church that has existed for over 2000 years. YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT!!!

[hojo]

Oxbow wrote:

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Clay wrote: Its in scripture Ox.
So your "its in scripture" is nothing but hot air.....know why?? Because there is no such....

That is right!! There is "no such thing" as bible only (sola scriptura) recorded and written down (in the Bible) ANYWHERE!!. It is a "made up" man-made, invention that was "never believed by ANYONE" until almost 200 years after the Reformation. It is "nothing" but an extension or a "spin off" of the Protestant Reformation which is just another one of the 42,000+ contradicting (hodge-podge of Protestant beliefs, that have "absolutely no basis" of biblical or historical truth to back up (ANY of its distorted beliefs)

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[LTM]

Oxbow wrote:

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I did not write: Oxbow , Jesus is the word , and the word was God.
All things came into being through Him, this makes Jesus God the creator. Gen.1 :1 In the beginng God created the Heavens and the earth.

I wrote that to you.

Jesus is never recorded in the Bible as saying the precise words,“I am God.” That does not mean, however, that He did not proclaim that He is God. Take for example Jesus’ words in John 10:30,“I and the Father are one.” We need only to look at the Jews’ reaction to His statement to know He was claiming to be God. They tried to stone Him for this very reason.“… you, a mere man, claim to be God”(John 10:33). The Jews understood exactly what Jesus was claiming—deity. Notice that Jesus does not deny His claim to be God. When Jesus declared,“I and the Father are one”(John 10:30), He was saying that He and the Father are of one nature and essence. John 8:58 is another example. Jesus declared,“I tell you the truth, before Abraham was born, I am!” The response of the Jews who heard this statement was to take up stones to kill Him for blasphemy, as the Mosaic Law commanded them to do (Leviticus 24:15).

John reiterates the concept of Jesus’ deity:“the Word was God” and “the Word became flesh”(John 1:1, 14). These verses clearly indicate that Jesus is God in the flesh. Acts 20:28 tells us,“Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.” Who bought the church—the church of God—with His own blood? Jesus Christ. Acts 20:28 declares that God purchased His church with His own blood. Therefore, Jesus is God!

Thomas the disciple declared concerning Jesus,“My Lord and my God”(John 20:28). Jesus does not correct him. Titus 2:13 encourages us to wait for the coming of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ (see also 2 Peter 1:1). In Hebrews 1:8, the Father declares of Jesus,“But about the Son He says,’Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.’” The Father refers to Jesus as “O God” indicating that Jesus is indeed God.

In Revelation, an angel instructed the apostle John to only worship God (Revelation 19:10). Several times in Scripture Jesus receives worship (Matthew 2:11, 14:33, 28:9, 17; Luke 24:52; John 9:38). He never rebukes people for worshiping Him. If Jesus were not God, He would have told people to not worship Him, just as the angel in Revelation did. There are many other verses and passages of Scripture that argue for Jesus’ deity.

The most important reason that Jesus has to be God is that if He is not God, His death would not have been sufficient to pay the penalty for the sins of the world (1 John 2:2). A created being, which Jesus would be if He were not God, could not pay the infinite penalty required for sin against an infinite God. Only God could pay such an infinite penalty. Only God could take on the sins of the world (2 Corinthians 5:21), die, and be resurrected, proving His victory over sin and death.

[LTM]

jethro8 wrote:

well time to go,patriots game is on,they will be playing san francisco in the superbowl,once they win tonights game.good night people,be safe stay warm,make some hot chocolate and watch the game.

49ers are going to the super bowl Jethro.
I am a 49ers fan from way back.
It is fridget up here Jethro about 40 minus, and it hasn't stop snowing all week. I think this is the first day it hasn't snowed.
How you doing Jethro, are you feeling ok?

[Oxbow]

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Robert F wrote:

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Oxbow
This is the first time you asked....
But it is obvious. There are about 100 trillion connections in the human brain. When God emptied himself out to become a human, he necessarlily limited himself to the human brain. And so the time and date of everything and events in the universe cannot be held in a human brain.

No it is not the first time I asked the question....and it is not the first time that it has remained unanswered...why??? Because Christ was/is not God.

God and Christ said so...more than once:
Quote: He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Any Scripture that is interpreted as saying the opposite shows a Bible that contradicts itself...that is impossible.. the Word of God is infallible...

[Oxbow]

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Robert F wrote:

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Oxbow
I know.

Then why these words: Oxbow Sorry. You have quoted something from somewhere, I know not...

[Oxbow]

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hojo wrote:

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That is right!! There is "no such thing" as bible only (sola scriptura) recorded and written down (in the Bible) ANYWHERE!!. It is a "made up" man-made, invention that was "never believed by ANYONE" until almost 200 years after the Reformation. It is "nothing" but an extension or a "spin off" of the Protestant Reformation which is just another one of the 42,000+ contradicting (hodge-podge of Protestant beliefs, that have "absolutely no basis" of biblical or historical truth to back up (ANY of its distorted beliefs)
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If I had any idea as to what you are trying to say...I would respond...

[Oxbow]

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LTM wrote:

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I wrote that to you.
Jesus is never recorded in the Bible as saying the precise words,“I am God.” That does not mean, however, that He did not proclaim that He is God. Take for example Jesus’ words in John 10:30,“I and the Father are one.” We need only to look at the Jews’ reaction to His statement to know He was claiming to be God. They tried to stone Him for this very reason.“… you, a mere man, claim to be God”(John 10:33). The Jews understood exactly what Jesus was claiming—deity. Notice that Jesus does not deny His claim to be God. When Jesus declared,“I and the Father are one”(John 10:30), He was saying that He and the Father are of one nature and essence. John 8:58 is another example. Jesus declared,“I tell you the truth, before Abraham was born, I am!” The response of the Jews who heard this statement was to take up stones to kill Him for blasphemy, as the Mosaic Law commanded them to do (Leviticus 24:15).
John reiterates the concept of Jesus’ deity:“the Word was God” and “the Word became flesh”(John 1:1, 14). These verses clearly indicate that Jesus is God in the flesh. Acts 20:28 tells us,“Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.” Who bought the church—the church of God—with His own blood? Jesus Christ. Acts 20:28 declares that God purchased His church with His own blood. Therefore, Jesus is God!
Thomas the disciple declared concerning Jesus,“My Lord and my God”(John 20:28). Jesus does not correct him. Titus 2:13 encourages us to wait for the coming of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ (see also 2 Peter 1:1). In Hebrews 1:8, the Father declares of Jesus,“But about the Son He says,’Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.’” The Father refers to Jesus as “O God” indicating that Jesus is indeed God.
In Revelation, an angel instructed the apostle John to only worship God (Revelation 19:10). Several times in Scripture Jesus receives worship (Matthew 2:11, 14:33, 28:9, 17; Luke 24:52; John 9:38). He never rebukes people for worshiping Him. If Jesus were not God, He would have told people to not worship Him, just as the angel in Revelation did. There are many other verses and passages of Scripture that argue for Jesus’ deity.
The most important reason that Jesus has to be God is that if He is not God, His death would not have been sufficient to pay the penalty for the sins of the world (1 John 2:2). A created being, which Jesus would be if He were not God, could not pay the infinite penalty required for sin against an infinite God. Only God could pay such an infinite penalty. Only God could take on the sins of the world (2 Corinthians 5:21), die, and be resurrected, proving His victory over sin and death.

God said it...Christ seconded it...

Quote: He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Any Scripture that is interpreted as saying the opposite shows a Bible that contradicts itself...that is impossible.. the Word of God is infallible...

[Oxbow]

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LTM wrote:

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I wrote that to you.
Jesus is never recorded in the Bible as saying the precise words,“I am God.” That does not mean, however, that He did not proclaim that He is God. Take for example Jesus’ words in John 10:30,“I and the Father are one.” We need only to look at the Jews’ reaction to His statement to know He was claiming to be God. They tried to stone Him for this very reason.“… you, a mere man, claim to be God”(John 10:33). The Jews understood exactly what Jesus was claiming—deity. Notice that Jesus does not deny His claim to be God. When Jesus declared,“I and the Father are one”(John 10:30), He was saying that He and the Father are of one nature and essence. John 8:58 is another example. Jesus declared,“I tell you the truth, before Abraham was born, I am!” The response of the Jews who heard this statement was to take up stones to kill Him for blasphemy, as the Mosaic Law commanded them to do (Leviticus 24:15).
John reiterates the concept of Jesus’ deity:“the Word was God” and “the Word became flesh”(John 1:1, 14). These verses clearly indicate that Jesus is God in the flesh. Acts 20:28 tells us,“Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.” Who bought the church—the church of God—with His own blood? Jesus Christ. Acts 20:28 declares that God purchased His church with His own blood. Therefore, Jesus is God!
Thomas the disciple declared concerning Jesus,“My Lord and my God”(John 20:28). Jesus does not correct him. Titus 2:13 encourages us to wait for the coming of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ (see also 2 Peter 1:1). In Hebrews 1:8, the Father declares of Jesus,“But about the Son He says,’Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.’” The Father refers to Jesus as “O God” indicating that Jesus is indeed God.
In Revelation, an angel instructed the apostle John to only worship God (Revelation 19:10). Several times in Scripture Jesus receives worship (Matthew 2:11, 14:33, 28:9, 17; Luke 24:52; John 9:38). He never rebukes people for worshiping Him. If Jesus were not God, He would have told people to not worship Him, just as the angel in Revelation did. There are many other verses and passages of Scripture that argue for Jesus’ deity.
The most important reason that Jesus has to be God is that if He is not God, His death would not have been sufficient to pay the penalty for the sins of the world (1 John 2:2). A created being, which Jesus would be if He were not God, could not pay the infinite penalty required for sin against an infinite God. Only God could pay such an infinite penalty. Only God could take on the sins of the world (2 Corinthians 5:21), die, and be resurrected, proving His victory over sin and death.

And...for at least one time...the Catholics got it right...from their encyclopedia: Jesus Christ - The incarnate Son of God and the redeemer of the human race......

[Sherlayne]

confrinting with the word wrote:

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I am a follower of Jesus Christ..
Since Benny Hinn is evidently standing between Anthony and God...
That means He is closer to God than Anthony is.
I don't see Benny Hinn attempting to claim a franchise or a monopoly on the Kingdom of God...even though He was raise as a Roman Catholic.
He ministers healing to them as well as the protestants. All that attend his meetings.

If you have faith and trust in Benny Hinn, so be it. Would Jesus sport that kind of wardrobe, live in a mansion, and flash giant-size diamond rings? I think not.

[berserker]

Longshanks wrote:

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What bothers you about this statement Elizabeth? I really think you are misinterpreting the statement.
He is not saying you can't believe as methodist, lutheran, etc. He is merely saying the Catholic church is the true church of Christ. It doesn't mean anyone is being excluded from salvation.

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Let us review some ancient history starting with the loathsome emperor Constintine. This guy, emperor of Rome saw that converting to Christianity would make him more powerful and secure upon his throne. After his supposed conversion, he acted in no way like a (christian) He banned the worship of any other gods, he continued to flay people alive along with all manor of horrible tortures. Previouse Roman Emperors tried to reighn in the Flavian circus and tried to stem the ocean of blood that the bloodthirsty Romans demanded.

But what did he do instead? The blood games were upgraded to new levels of horror and suffering. So, this was the contemptible beggining of your Catholic church. Over the centuries this church has murdered and subjugated millions of people and has ben the cause of untold ignorance and suffering.

They are as corrupt and souless as the US government is. Matter of fact they are allies of old for each understands well the treachery and brutality of the other. God has nothing to do with this bunch other than being the creator of everything. To bad there realy is not a hell, too bad these meglomaniacal power mad evil ruling catholic elite will never get the punishment they deserve. Not while there are millions like your self that consider them (holy) and not the monsters in human skins.

[socci]

The apostle Peter never went to Rome, that was Paul. The gnostic Simon Magus founded the Roman Church.

www.youtube.com/playlist...

www.remnantofgod.org/pope1.htm

[berserker]

hojo wrote:

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Wrong again,(as usual) which is (exactly) like the rest of your other 42,000+ contradicting, conflicting and inconsistent Protestant bible only (half-truth, half heresy Christian denominations. The "only thing" proven about the Protestant "hodge-podge" of "circus-merry-go-round " beliefs of confusion and chaos is that they (have never), nor (will ever_, agree on ANYTHING accept attacking, condemning and passing their "personal opinion" judgement against the TRUTH: the historical and biblical TRUTH of Jesus Christ and His One (and only) True Church---the Catholic Church....... Since Martin Luther and the Reformation in the 1500's , Protestantism has acquired a "proven track record" of distorting and manipulating the TRUE interpretation of the bible

(all 42,000+ of them--- to their own "demise and destruction"!! YOU CAN HAVE IT!! IT IS ALL YOURS!!! I'll stick to the historical and biblical TRUTH of Christs ONLY True Church that has existed for over 2000 years. YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT!!!

I see that you are another mad fanatical follower of the most loathsome horrible organization that has ever existed! The one true church? Would you care to tally up the total misery, murder and suffering this Catholic church has caused? They have smothered the spread of knowledge and kept humanity in the dark for far too long. This (church) has nothing to do with God and everything to do with all that is evil and detestable.

How about some of thos (historic) facts now? How about the loathsome crusades? The pope gave them a gold ticket to heaven for murdering and plundering for the church. Now lets look at all the murders they have done claiming (heresy)!!Whenever they felt threatened and the ignorant masses approved of all of this. I could go on and on. But fanatical followers always will have some justification no matter how many murders or how much suffering history correctly reports about this putrid religion.

[7th Day Catholics Rock]

The Catholic Church is not ashamed that she changed the day of worship. In fact, she takes pride in this action, and regards it as her 'mark' of authority and superiority over other churches and religions.

"The Sabbath, the best known day of the law, was changed into the Lord's day. These and others have not ceased because of instructions received from Christ,(because he himself says, I have not come to destroy the law, but to fulfill it), but because due to the authority of the church they have been changed." Archbishop of Rheggio, Sermon on 1-18-1562, Mansi XXIII, p. 526

"The Sunday is a Catholic institution, and its claim for sacredness can be defended only on Catholic authority...In Holy Scripture from the beginning to the end we find not one single text which justifies the transfer of the weekly public worship service from the last to the first day of the week." Catholic Press, Sidney, 8-25-1900

"Nowhere in the Bible is it stated that worship should be changed from Saturday to Sunday. The fact is that the Church was in existence for several centuries before the Bible was given to the world. The Church made the Bible; the Bible did not make the Church." Things Catholics Are Asked About, by Martin J. Scott, 1927 ed, p. 136

"We celebrate Sunday instead of Saturday, because the Catholic Church has transferred the sacredness from Saturday to Sunday at the council of Laodicea in the year of 364 AD." The Converts Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, from P. Geiermann, the work of Pope Pius X, on 1-25-1910
According to the Roman Catholic Church 'Sunday' is their distinct and distinguished mark of authority.

"Sunday is our mark of authority. The church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact." The Catholic Record, London, Ontario, September 1, 1923

"The observance of Sunday by Protestants is an homage they pay, in spite of themselves, to the authority of the (Catholic) Church." Plain Talk About the Protestantism of Today, by Monsignor Segur, p. 213

"But the Protestant mind does not seem to realize that in...observing the Sunday... they are accepting the authority of the spokesman for the church, the pope." Our Sunday Visitor, Catholic weekly, Feb. 5, 1950

"Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change was her act... a mark of her ecclesiastical power and authority in religious matters." Office of Cardinal Gibbons, through Chancellor C. F. Thomas, Nov. 11, 1895

From the overwhelming weight of evidence, we can decisively conclude that the beast of Revelation 13 and 14 is the Roman Catholic Church, and that its mark (the mark of the beast) is Sunday observance.

Why is this mark so important? Have you ever signed a document to validate or confirm its authenticity? Have you ever given your 'seal of approval' to something? It is compulsory in any government. Only by signing, is a document authenticated. Government declarations must always bear an official mark or seal. What are the features of these governmental marks or seals? An official seal or signature must include three features:

1. The name of the official
2. The title of the official
3. The territory or domain of his authority

[7th Day Catholics Rock]

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For example, when the President of the United States signs a bill into law, he must sign it, George Washington (name), President (title) of the United States of America (territory). Every document must be signed in this manner to be official and legal.

Looking to the Almighty Creator, we realize that He has a Heavenly Kingdom. And the document containing the law of His Kingdom is The Ten Commandments. Looking directly in the midst of them you will find the seal of the living God! "For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea..." Exodus 20:11.

Notice the three distinct features:
1. Name: THE LORD ("I am the Lord: that is my name" Isaiah 42:8)
2. Title: CREATOR ("the LORD made")
3. Territory: HEAVEN AND EARTH (Heaven and earth)

Clearly, the seal of the Creator is found in the Sabbath commandment of His law. It is an acknowledgement of His authority as our Creator. When we keep His Sabbath, we are expressing that we acknowledge Him as our Creator.

On the Sabbath, we have the opportunity to worship God as our Creator. When we keep holy the day the Lord chose, we are proclaiming to the entire world that the Creator of the universe is our God! The devil, "Lucifer" is attacking the Sabbath, because he wants to be worshiped "like the Most High" Isaiah 14:14. The Creator seeks your worship on His holy Sabbath day, and Satan, seeking to be like the Creator, wants your worship on his Sunday. Which will you choose?

"And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the LORD your God" Ezekiel 20:20. >index

(For more on identifying the beast, refer to The Beast of Revelation 13 & 17 eCourse.)